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Title: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: W.A. Mozart on November 09, 2024, 01:54:05 AM
While dying, Mozart was writing one of the greatest masterpieces of classical music: the requiem.
It's like if he had to complete a mission before to die.

The story of Mendelssohn is similar. Before to die, he wrote his sixth string quartet, one of the greatest masterpieces of the genre, in my opinion.

This work is not inspired by God. Mendelssohn was challenging God. This quartet is the soundtrack of a cyclone.

I think that this piece alone proves that Mendelssohn has been one of the greatest composers of the history of music.




Title: https://www.good-music-Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Florestan on November 09, 2024, 05:00:48 AM
Quote from: W.A. Mozart on November 09, 2024, 01:54:05 AMWhile dying, Mozart was writing one of the greatest masterpieces of classical music: the requiem.
It's like if he had to complete a mission before to die.


Actually, he had to complete a comission. ;D  
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: gprengel on November 09, 2024, 09:39:12 AM
Quote from: W.A. Mozart on November 09, 2024, 01:54:05 AMWhile dying, Mozart was writing one of the greatest masterpieces of classical music: the requiem.
It's like if he had to complete a mission before to die.

The story of Mendelssohn is similar. Before to die, he wrote his sixth string quartet, one of the greatest masterpieces of the genre, in my opinion.

This work is not inspired by God. Mendelssohn was challenging God. This quartet is the soundtrack of a cyclone.

I think that this piece alone proves that Mendelssohn has been one of the greatest composers of the history of music.


Oh, how true!! I adore this quartet so much that I even orchestrated it - what a power and desperation!! https://youtu.be/1mAUlPdXpms?si=vdfkISuUx-qgu_Sq


Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Florestan on November 09, 2024, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: gprengel on November 09, 2024, 09:39:12 AMI adore this quartet so much that I even orchestrated it

Why?
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Herman on November 10, 2024, 03:21:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WST6UspwAM&t=1064s
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 10, 2024, 11:09:38 AM
Quote from: Herman on November 10, 2024, 03:21:30 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WST6UspwAM&t=1064s

Nice, thanks!
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 11, 2024, 07:42:24 AM
Quote from: Karl Henning on November 10, 2024, 11:09:38 AMNice, thanks!
The really funny thing being, though, that I had apparently been listening to that very performance once upon a time, as hitting that link brought me in mid-quartet!
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Spotted Horses on November 12, 2024, 11:23:07 AM
Quote from: Karl Henning on November 11, 2024, 07:42:24 AMThe really funny thing being, though, that I had apparently been listening to that very performance once upon a time, as hitting that link brought me in mid-quartet!

The link also brought me mid-quartet. The time offset is in the link.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 12, 2024, 11:25:24 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 12, 2024, 11:23:07 AMThe link also brought me mid-quartet. The time offset is in the link.
Ah, good sleuthing. 
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Spotted Horses on November 12, 2024, 12:38:33 PM
For what it's worth, my most recent (and perhaps only) listen to this quartet (more than a decade ago) didn't resonate. It was the Cherubini Quartet, if I recall right. Maybe time for a revisit.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 12, 2024, 01:28:05 PM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 12, 2024, 12:38:33 PMFor what it's worth, my most recent (and perhaps only) listen to this quartet (more than a decade ago) didn't resonate. It was the Cherubini Quartet, if I recall right. Maybe time for a revisit.
I recommend doing so. I was introduced to the quartet obliquely, I was at an outdoor concert in Lowell and the quartet performing included just one movement in their program.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: DavidW on November 13, 2024, 06:14:33 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 12, 2024, 12:38:33 PMFor what it's worth, my most recent (and perhaps only) listen to this quartet (more than a decade ago) didn't resonate. It was the Cherubini Quartet, if I recall right. Maybe time for a revisit.

Yeah, that recording is bland! I like the Pacifica Quartet and the Talich Quartet.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 13, 2024, 06:19:18 AM
Quote from: DavidW on November 13, 2024, 06:14:33 AMYeah, that recording is bland! I like the Pacifica Quartet and the Talich Quartet.
Bland plus Mendelssohn is Lethal!
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Spotted Horses on November 13, 2024, 07:16:14 AM
Quote from: DavidW on November 13, 2024, 06:14:33 AMYeah, that recording is bland! I like the Pacifica Quartet and the Talich Quartet.

I did 10 second surveys of Cherubini, Pacifica, Ysaye and Emerson. I found Cherubini, Pacifica, Ysaye more or less equally vivid. Emerson was blandissimo.

First impression after revisiting the work, the first movement seems like a tone poem about an attack of bumble bees. :) Maybe I'll listen to Pacifica or Ysaye (which I had on CD but can't seem to find).
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Kalevala on November 13, 2024, 07:21:19 AM
Quote from: DavidW on November 13, 2024, 06:14:33 AMYeah, that recording is bland! I like the Pacifica Quartet and the Talich Quartet.
I have the Talich Quartet's recordings of Mendelssohn.

K
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: DavidW on November 13, 2024, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 13, 2024, 07:16:14 AMI did 10 second surveys of Cherubini, Pacifica, Ysaye and Emerson. I found Cherubini, Pacifica, Ysaye more or less equally vivid. Emerson was blandissimo.

First impression after revisiting the work, the first movement seems like a tone poem about an attack of bumble bees. :) Maybe I'll listen to Pacifica or Ysaye (which I had on CD but can't seem to find).

You are bringing back memories of Paulb with that post! :laugh:
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Spotted Horses on November 13, 2024, 10:58:14 AM
Quote from: DavidW on November 13, 2024, 09:49:32 AMYou are bringing back memories of Paulb with that post! :laugh:

I'm not passing judgement, just trying to decide which one to listen to. :)

I seem to recall that listening through the Mendelssohn cycle, decades ago, I was expecting the final quartet to be the most moving, inspired by the death of Mendelssohn's sister, but I was let down.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Spotted Horses on November 13, 2024, 11:19:46 AM
Quote from: W.A. Mozart on November 09, 2024, 01:54:05 AMWhile dying, Mozart was writing one of the greatest masterpieces of classical music: the requiem.
It's like if he had to complete a mission before to die.

Quote from: Florestan on November 09, 2024, 05:00:48 AMActually, he had to complete a comission. ;D   

...and he didn't come close to finishing it.

Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 13, 2024, 11:22:48 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 13, 2024, 11:19:46 AM...and he didn't come close to finishing it.


Agent 86: Missed it by that much!
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Karl Henning on November 14, 2024, 06:15:53 AM
Quote from: Spotted Horses on November 13, 2024, 07:16:14 AMEmerson was blandissimo.
I enjoy the Emersons in so much else, I was thinking of their Mendelssohn, but I am glad the Fickle Finger of Fate pointed me instead to the Pacifica set.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: Spotted Horses on November 14, 2024, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: Karl Henning on November 14, 2024, 06:15:53 AMI enjoy the Emersons in so much else, I was thinking of their Mendelssohn, but I am glad the Fickle Finger of Fate pointed me instead to the Pacifica set.

...based on 10 seconds, mind you. But I am not generally a fan of the Emersons, despite the obvious technical perfection.
Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: W.A. Mozart on December 06, 2024, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: gprengel on November 09, 2024, 09:39:12 AMOh, how true!! I adore this quartet so much that I even orchestrated it - what a power and desperation!! https://youtu.be/1mAUlPdXpms?si=vdfkISuUx-qgu_Sq

Nice, although it's clearily played by a software and not by a real orchestra. However the time seems quite wrong.

In the recording I have the first movement is considerably shorter.


Title: Re: The sixth and last Mendelssohn's quartet is a masterpiece
Post by: W.A. Mozart on December 06, 2024, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: Florestan on November 09, 2024, 10:07:55 AMWhy?


Why not? It's not uncommon to create orchestral arrangements of chamber works. Copland and Elgar for example orchestrated some of their chamber works.