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Title: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 05, 2007, 03:28:40 AM
Dudes!  Dudettes!

How often do you wake up with the finale of  Bruckner's Fifth Symphony rattling across your corpus callosum?    :o

Or anything else?   ;D

This morning I awoke with the last third of the slow movement from Beethoven's Third Symphony playing in my inner ears, as if the work had started about 35 minutes earlier.

One could find this ominously portentous, or portentously ominous, if one believed in omens outside of lesser Gregory Peck movies.

So tell us: which works have you heard while refusing the arms of Morpheus, or Morphea, as the sun also rises?  Do you wake up in the middle of the night with ballets or Brunhildes in your ears?

If you are a composer, do you wake up with original things roaring for immortality with pen and paper?
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: m_gigena on October 05, 2007, 03:40:48 AM
When I woke up yesterday my mind was broadcasting the finale from the first movement of Tchaikovsky's violin concerto. However, the double stop triplets were not being played at normal speed, but probably at 1/3 of the speed marked by the score.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: DavidW on October 05, 2007, 03:41:25 AM
Since I listened to the Archduke Trio on my b-day it's been rattling around in my head ever since.  I'm finally purging it though with some Tool. :)
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 05, 2007, 04:06:49 AM
Quote from: DavidW on October 05, 2007, 03:41:25 AM
Since I listened to the Archduke Trio on my b-day it's been rattling around in my head ever since.  I'm finally purging it though with some Tool. :)

I assume you like the work quite a bit?!

The interesting thing which I did not mention earlier is that Beethoven's Third Symphony is not my favorite la-la-la from Ludwig.  I have not listened to a complete performance in over 25 years!

In any case, there it was at 5:45 A.M.!   :o

Manuel wrote:

QuoteWhen I woke up yesterday my mind was broadcasting the finale from the first movement of Tchaikovsky's violin concerto. However, the double stop triplets were not being played at normal speed, but probably at 1/3 of the speed marked by the score

So had you heard the work recently, or has it also been decades?
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 04:16:29 AM
Not a symphony, by any means . . . but this morning my internal radio was playing:

Quote from: Les tĂȘtes qui parlentSometimes the world has a load of questions,
Seems like the world knows nothing at all.
The world is here, but it's out of reach;
Some people touch it, but they can't hold on . . . .
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: BachQ on October 05, 2007, 04:26:16 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 03:28:40 AM
So tell us: which works have you heard while refusing the arms of Morpheus, or Morphea, as the sun also rises? 

It varies depending upon the facts and circumstances of any given morning .........
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 04:29:11 AM
Now, more in keeping with the thread title, the Beethoven Eighth Symphony!

Nothing could be finer
Than the Opus three-&-ninetier
In the mo - o - orning! . . . .
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: BachQ on October 05, 2007, 04:37:14 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 04:29:11 AM
Now, more in keeping with the thread title, the Beethoven Eighth Symphony!

Nothing could be finer
Than the Opus three-&-ninetier
In the mo - o - orning! . . . .


Karl, please consider pursuing a fulltime career as a lyricist  ........
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: longears on October 05, 2007, 04:44:20 AM
...or not.   ;D

Depending on what the day seems to have in store, I might awaken to the 3rd movement of Sibelius's 5th...or to the opening bars of Rachmaninoff's Isle of Death.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Kullervo on October 05, 2007, 05:34:49 AM
I sometimes wake up with a theme in my head, and spend half the day trying to remember what it was.
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Post by: dtwilbanks on October 05, 2007, 05:37:21 AM
There's always some piece of music running 'round my brain. However I do not keep a track list.  ;D
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 05, 2007, 05:43:14 AM
Quote from: Corey on October 05, 2007, 05:34:49 AM
I sometimes wake up with a theme in my head, and spend half the day trying to remember what it was.

I have the opposite problem: I can still give you radio and TV jingles from the post-WW II era!   :'(


And yes, commercial jingles have sometimes jangled me awake: a good dose of our hero Schoenberg fixes the situation!


Longears: that would seem especially ominous, having The Rach's Isle of the Dead floating in your mind in 5/8 time in the morning!    :o

Does anything bad happen on those days?    >:D
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: longears on October 05, 2007, 05:50:40 AM
Good, bad...it's all in the way we look at it!  ;)

I think it has to do with what I have to look forward to at work that day.  Lately it hasn't been all sunshine and lollipops.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 05:52:31 AM
I'm not keen on lollipops, myself.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: BachQ on October 05, 2007, 05:54:28 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 05:52:31 AM
I'm not keen on lollipops, myself.

Oh, but the combination of lollipops & sunshine ........
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 05, 2007, 06:03:23 AM
Quote from: D Minor on October 05, 2007, 05:54:28 AM
Oh, but the combination of lollipops & sunshine ........

Thanks a lot!

Now Lesley Gore is singing in my head!!!    0:)

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/lesley-gore/sunshine-lollipops-and-rainbows.html
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: longears on October 05, 2007, 06:16:30 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 06:03:23 AM
Thanks a lot!  Now Lesley Gore is singing in my head!!!    0:)

Cool!  8) I had no idea you were geezer enough to get the reference.

Karl, on the other hand....   ;D
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 06:17:48 AM
I can correct you, there. I have never at any time geezed.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: longears on October 05, 2007, 06:19:52 AM
Gesundheit.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Renfield on October 05, 2007, 06:42:56 AM
Well, a rather interesting example was when I awoke one day with the opening of Mahler's 8th Symphony in full (internal) blast! And it even went on for a minute or two, before I actually got up. ;D

I've also memorably woken up to the second movement of Beethoven's 7th, various movements of Brahms' symphonies (including the third movement of the 4th, recently), the opening movement of Beethoven's 1st, the opening movement of Beethoven's 2nd...

Also the opening movement of Sibelius' 3rd Symphony! Obviously a lot of other Mahler, including the opening movement of the 3rd and the third movement of the 5th... And that's off the top of my head.

But really, I'm in the group of people who always have some sort of music playing in their inner Winamp (or iTunes, if you want). And the best thing is, you don't really know what you're getting next!

Oh, I've also woken up to the opening of Bruckner's 5th, and maybe his 4th, too.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: m_gigena on October 05, 2007, 07:25:29 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 04:06:49 AM
So had you heard the work recently, or has it also been decades?

I re-discovered the disc by Vengerov and Abbado last week. But I listened to the Glazunov concerto mostly.

What is curious is that when virtuoso works are playing I get them at a lower speed.


Quote from: Renfield on October 05, 2007, 06:42:56 AM
But really, I'm in the group of people who always have some sort of music playing in their inner Winamp (or iTunes, if you want). And the best thing is, you don't really know what you're getting next!

My inner music providers almost go bankrupt with the recent purchase of my digital audio player. I got the music service offshored. ;D
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 05, 2007, 08:09:20 AM
Quote from: Manuel on October 05, 2007, 07:25:29 AM
I re-discovered the disc by Vengerov and Abbado last week. But I listened to the Glazunov concerto mostly.

What is curious is that when virtuoso works are playing I get them at a lower speed.


That is the joy of a good musical memory: you can do anything you want with the work, even play it at 16 rpm rather than 33 1/3!

Renfield: Waking up to the opening of Mahler's Eighth or any Bruckner symphony seems very appropriate.

Anybody ever wake up with the Ride of the Valkyries in their inner ears?

Has any waking-up music connected to a dream?  Maybe in your dreams you are conducting the Berlin Philharmonic, or the Boston Symphony, or a really great ensemble like the Cleveland Orchestra, and the music just keeps on truckin'!
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: m_gigena on October 05, 2007, 09:26:18 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 08:09:20 AM
Has any waking-up music connected to a dream?  Maybe in your dreams you are conducting the Berlin Philharmonic, or the Boston Symphony, or a really great ensemble like the Cleveland Orchestra, and the music just keeps on truckin'!

I already narrated this. The first time I listened to Shostakovich's first violin concerto I was actually sleeping. The alarm clock radio turned on early in the morning but I kept sleeping. The concerto was being broadcasted and I incorporated the music to my dream. I remember in it I really liked the Scherzo. I woke up as soon as the Burleske finished, and heard the announcer reading it was Shostakovich's first violin concerto, played by David Oistrah and Dmitri Mitropoulos.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 09:33:08 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 08:09:20 AM
Anybody ever wake up with the Ride of the Valkyries in their inner ears?

Only when the air niffs of napalm.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 05, 2007, 10:49:37 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on October 05, 2007, 09:33:08 AM
Only when the air niffs of napalm.

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning!"   8)

Similar: I have sometimes had a work in my head and that was what the local classical station played during the morning ride.

Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Bonehelm on October 05, 2007, 08:31:54 PM
Shosty's haunting theme from the finale of his 5th.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: marvinbrown on October 06, 2007, 04:16:34 PM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 08:09:20 AM

Anybody ever wake up with the Ride of the Valkyries in their inner ears?

  Yes me of course  :) !!! The "prize song" and the overture from Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg also stick like glue the following morning after a night spent watching the Levine MET DVD.  Sublime truely sublime  0:).     


  marvin
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: 12tone. on October 07, 2007, 01:47:19 PM
Quite lately I've had the desending brass tune of the introduction to Bruckner's 3rd symphony.  I'll be going along and then...

DUHHHH, DUHHHHH, DUH DUH-DUHHHHHHHHH.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: gomro on October 07, 2007, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 03:28:40 AM
Dudes!  Dudettes!

How often do you wake up with the finale of  Bruckner's Fifth Symphony rattling across your corpus callosum?    :o

Or anything else?   ;D

Very often, but not only classics. In recent weeks I can tell you I've awakened with such music as:

Apprentice of the Universe and Bullitts Dominae by rock band Pure Reason Revolution
All Along the Watchtower...Jimi Hendrix's version
Claude Bolling's Veloce' from the Suite for Flute and Jazz Piano Trio
2nd movement of Bartok's Music for Strings Percussion and Celesta
Stockhausen's Songs of the Days
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: val on October 08, 2007, 12:24:14 AM
Right now, the sun is rising and I have in my mind the beginning of Mozart piano Sonata K 333 (I listened to it, again, yesterday, by Leon McCawley).
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: m_gigena on October 08, 2007, 04:12:44 AM
Today was the Triumphal March from Aida.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: George on October 08, 2007, 05:29:16 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 05, 2007, 03:28:40 AM
So tell us: which works have you heard while refusing the arms of Morpheus, or Morphea, as the sun also rises? 

LvB's Pastoral.  8)
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 08, 2007, 06:01:59 AM
Here is something interesting: I began this topic last week, because a part of the funeral march from Beethoven's Third Symphony was playing in my inner ear when I woke up, a work which is not one I choose often.

It turns out that on that exact day my mother (in her 80's) had suffered - and ignored - a mild heart attack. 

When I called her on Friday, she told me about "feeling bad and weak" on Wednesday, and again on Friday, so my sister and I convinced her to check into a hospital, where it was confirmed that she had indeed suffered two mild heart attacks.

Of course, with a parent past 80, one always has that cloud of death hanging expectantly above one's head.  Still, an interesting coincidence that on that specific day Beethoven's gloomy music should parallel my mother's heart attack!

On the other hand a funeral march is still premature!    0:)

Gomro: that is truly an eclectic collage of tunes to hear !
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Kullervo on October 08, 2007, 08:27:54 AM
I just wanted to say how glad I am that everyone has, so far, had the self-control not to say Grieg's "Morning Mood". :D
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 10, 2007, 06:30:19 AM
This morning's "head music" (No, not The Monkees   :o  )
was the Dvorak Serenade for Strings, the second movement. 

"One of the greatest works ever composed!"  = I have certain personal memories connected to it    0:)   which make it "one of the greatest works ever composed!" 
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: dtwilbanks on October 10, 2007, 06:31:43 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 10, 2007, 06:30:19 AM
This morning's "head music" (No, not The Monkees   :o  )

The porpoise song is awesome. :)
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 10, 2007, 06:43:04 AM
Quote from: dtw on October 10, 2007, 06:31:43 AM
The porpoise song is awesome. :)

Dude!  You're in the club!   8)
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: dtwilbanks on October 10, 2007, 06:47:45 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 10, 2007, 06:43:04 AM
Dude!  You're in the club!   8)

:)
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 24, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
Today I woke up with the music from the credit-card commercial showing people with ADHD swirling through a toy store, which comes to halt when a mother starts to write a check, instead of swiping her (Visa?) credit card.

I believe the music comes from Danny Elfman's score to Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  It accompanies a scene in the kitchen where he is racing around like a lunatic.

I thankfully never saw the movie, but recall the music from an excerpt shown in the 80's on Siskel and Ebert, the movie review show. 

Yes, that's the kind of curse my musical memory can be!    :o
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: marvinbrown on October 24, 2007, 11:39:32 AM
Quote from: Manuel on October 08, 2007, 04:12:44 AM
Today was the Triumphal March from Aida.

  Yes and what of the Anvil Chorus (Act 2) from Verdi's Il Trovatore?? That always has a tendency to stick in one's head if you know what I mean....

  marvin
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: karlhenning on October 24, 2007, 11:42:35 AM
Quote from: Cato on October 24, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
Today I woke up with the music from the credit-card commercial showing people with ADHD swirling through a toy store, which comes to halt when a mother starts to write a check, instead of swiping her (Visa?) credit card.

I believe the music comes from Danny Elfman's score to Pee Wee's Big Adventure.  It accompanies a scene in the kitchen where he is racing around like a lunatic.

I thankfully never saw the movie, but recall the music from an excerpt shown in the 80's on Siskel and Ebert, the movie review show. 

Yes, that's the kind of curse my musical memory can be!    :o

This is my favorite post of today!
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: mahlertitan on October 24, 2007, 01:37:34 PM
I am a sound sleeper, so my alarm clocks sounds off Bruckner's 3rd every morning, the only music that can get me out of the bed.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 24, 2007, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: MahlerTitan on October 24, 2007, 01:37:34 PM
I am a sound sleeper, so my alarm clocks sounds off Bruckner's 3rd every morning, the only music that can get me out of the bed.

That is some alarm clock!  Is it the BOSE CD-Player/Radio?
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on October 26, 2007, 03:33:09 AM
Today at 5:20 A.M. the brain was playing Liadov's Baba Yaga, one of the greatest works under 5 minutes ever composed!

Of course, Halloween is coming next week!   :o
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on November 08, 2007, 03:51:25 AM
Today the crazy-quilt Scherzo of Charles Ives' Fourth Symphony was in the brain at 5:30 A.M, complete with the clarinets doodling dueling hymns in cross-rhythms with everyone else.

Since "crazy-quilt" quite accurately describes my life riight now, my brain's subconscious choice is not surprising!   :o

Any other cock-a-doodle-do duets or dithyrambs out there?
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Kullervo on November 11, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
This morning I was thinking about the first few notes of Sibelius's 5th.
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Renfield on November 12, 2007, 12:14:13 AM
Quote from: Corey on November 11, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
This morning I was thinking about the first few notes of Sibelius's 5th.

Whereas I was mulling over the first notes of Bruckner's 5th, after I went to sleep last night following a full "performance" of Horenstein's recording, on BBC Legends. Joy! :)
Title: Re: Sunrise Symphonies?
Post by: Cato on November 12, 2007, 03:48:21 AM
Quote from: Renfield on November 12, 2007, 12:14:13 AM
Whereas I was mulling over the first notes of Bruckner's 5th, after I went to sleep last night following a full "performance" of Horenstein's recording, on BBC Legends. Joy! :)

Those first few notes could put you back to sleep!  But in a few more bars Bruckner will wake you up!

Of course a few more bars will also put you back to sleep, especially if you drink breakfast!

Interesting that my sleeping-then-waking brain has focused on works which I have not heard in decades: yesterday and today the last few minutes of Tchaikovsky's Marche Slav started parading through the ears.

I must be in some sort of subconscious nostagia cycle: nostalgia is something which I have always considered a disease.  Probably 30 years have gone by since I actually heard the entire thing on a recording!   :o   

There's a warning to all you young gals 'n' fellers!   8)