http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615984947x1146386631x1079468311/aol?redir=http://www.switched.com/2007/10/15/the-trippiest-optical-illusions-on-the-net/
i looked once, and she was spinning right. then i look again after a minute and she's spinning left ???
i'm speechless.....
i just looked at that thing again to see if i can "make" it look like it's spinning right again, and just by looking and kinda relaxing my brain, it started going towards the right!
this is an exercise i should have to test myself, to get in the right state of mind for composing- too often it's easy to slip into a left-brain state where all you're thinking about is putting notes together, but whenever you think that way, it's impossible to think of anything good. Maybe doing a simple test of looking until the lady is spinning right would help?....
Definitely clockwise.
Quote from: greg on October 18, 2007, 11:26:31 AM
i looked once, and she was spinning right. then i look again after a minute and she's spinning left ???
Left (counterclockwise), I tried seeing it the other way, but I can't. :-\
Quote from: Mark on October 18, 2007, 11:34:44 AM
Definitely clockwise.
Watch her foot. Still clockwise?
When we say clockwise or counter clockwise, we mean HER perspective right?
#$(*&#($&#
whoa, this is really scary. again! when i first start looking it's left- i try to think "Turn right! Turn right!" but it never happens. Then I had this thought pop up in my mind- this little section of music which i've been dwelling over for the last few days- a little section in the last movement of Mahler's 6th, a part which is played 2 or 3 times in a sort of majorish, loud key with the violins doing some screaming melody- and just like that, the lady started spinning right again! It was so sudden, it really freaked me out...... never seen anything like that, it's like a visual indication of what side of the brain you're using
Quote from: George on October 18, 2007, 11:35:23 AM
Left (counterclockwise), I tried seeing it the other way, but I can't. :-\
George, shut off your mind. Put on some music, do whatever. She'll start spinning right and i'll freak you out!
Quote from: greg on October 18, 2007, 11:39:11 AM
#$(*&#($&#
whoa, this is really scary. again! when i first start looking it's left- i try to think "Turn right! Turn right!" but it never happens. Then I had this thought pop up in my mind- this little section of music which i've been dwelling over for the last few days- a little section in the last movement of Mahler's 6th, a part which is played 2 or 3 times in a sort of majorish, loud key with the violins doing some screaming melody- and just like that, the lady started spinning right again! It was so sudden, it really freaked me out...... never seen anything like that, it's like a visual indication of what side of the brain you're using
I'll try to think of something sad, to activate the other side of my brain.
Quote from: George on October 18, 2007, 11:36:16 AM
Watch her foot. Still clockwise?
When we say clockwise or counter clockwise, we mean HER perspective right?
Yep, and yep. :)
Quote from: Mark on October 18, 2007, 11:34:44 AM
Definitely clockwise.
I'm with Mark. Clockwise. And yes, from her perspective.
My best friend sent me that link a week ago. The trick is based on non-perspective 2D-projection. In fact it's all our mind that creates the illusion of an 3D object rotating.
The girl moves up and down a little bit while rotating. I think that's what determines the direction of rotation, according to which side of the brain we are using.
100% clockwise
What's it mean when she flips you off?
Quote from: George on October 18, 2007, 11:40:30 AM
I'll try to think of something sad, to activate the other side of my brain.
look at her foot on the ground. Think of it as the right foot, then the left foot. That may do the trick.
(I saw her first turning counter clockwise)
Quote from: sound sponge on October 18, 2007, 11:57:58 AM
What's it mean when she flips you off?
It means she noticed you didn't read the directions. Paragraph 2:
"Instead of concentrating on her chest"
To save clicking away from GMG, let's stick her in this thread. ;)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.switched.com/media/2007/10/spinningdancer_54.gif)
Clockwise without doubt
I only see counter-clockwise.
I mainly use the center of my brain and the right side of my body.
Well, its counter-clockwise for me, then I relaxed my mind and :o she started spinnin' clockwise for a while then back to counter-clockwise.
Dunno if this is a computer trick that she changes direction every now and then or if its all in your mind. :)
She goes clockwise for me. Then I try to will her to go counter-clockwise and she does not. Then suddenly she goes counter-clockwise on her own.
Quote from: George on October 18, 2007, 11:35:23 AM
Left (counterclockwise), I tried seeing it the other way, but I can't. :-\
Me too Geroge she is definitely spinning counterclockwise and as hard as I tried I could not see her spinning the other way. I take that back, she spins as Anne says in both directions, maybe its all a joke??
marvin
i showed this to my mom and she said it looked like it was spinning right while it looked like it was spinning left to me. they say that guys usually are left-brained oriented and women are right-brained oriented, there might be something to that....
right now i'm experimenting and seeing what makes it look like it's turning left and what makes it look like it's turning right. I can turn it back and forth every few seconds but it's a mystery how i do it.... so far, i can make it turn right if i'm 1) not focusing on anything at all and come to a state of mind where i just feel like i'm falling asleep; 2) move my gaze into a different direction, and suddenly it starts turning right; 3) like that first time, have a sudden burst of inspiration from music
if it's turning left, it means i'm thinking, to sum it up simply. And often, I can make it turn right, but it only lasts for a second or two, then turns left again >:(
ok, onto more testing......
Quote from: marvinbrown on October 18, 2007, 12:38:34 PM
Me too Geroge she is definitely spinning counterclockwise and as hard as I tried I could not see her spinning the other way. I take that back, she spins as Anne says in both directions, maybe its all a joke??
marvin
Yeah, I'm waiting for the punchline. ::)
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on October 18, 2007, 12:20:13 PM
Well, its counter-clockwise for me, then I relaxed my mind and :o she started spinnin' clockwise for a while then back to counter-clockwise.
Dunno if this is a computer trick that she changes direction every now and then or if its all in your mind. :)
it's all in your mind- if it wasn't, my mom would've said she was spinning left :)
Quote from: greg on October 18, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
i showed this to my mom and she said it looked like it was spinning right while it looked like it was spinning left to me. they say that guys usually are left-brained oriented and women are right-brained oriented, there might be something to that....
My wife and I looked at it at the same time and she saw it spinnin' right while I saw it spinnin' left.
I can see it both ways; I have intergrated hemispheres ;)
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on October 18, 2007, 12:53:58 PM
My wife and I looked at it at the same time and she saw it spinnin' right while I saw it spinnin' left.
I can see it both ways; I have intergrated hemispheres ;)
i think we have a similar mind ;D
it's fake. if you watch long enough you'll see she switches from side to side at seemingly random times
Interesting... :)
Apparently, this plays on a combination of hemisphere use and visual perception. Because for me, the model spins clockwise beyond doubt; but if I focus on her legs, consider the motion, and then immediately switch my visual focus to her body, she immediately changes direction, and spins counter-clockwise. ;)
Quote from: sidoze on October 18, 2007, 12:56:18 PM
it's fake. if you watch long enough you'll see she switches from side to side at seemingly random times
that's what i thought for a second, except my mom saw it spinning right, i saw it spinning left at the same time
Quote from: orbital on October 18, 2007, 12:01:27 PM
look at her foot on the ground. Think of it as the right foot, then the left foot. That may do the trick.
(I saw her first turning counter clockwise)
I saw it first CW, but looking at the shadow of the foot helped me see it CCW. (Otherwise I was 100% sure it was CW!)
Quote from: greg on October 18, 2007, 01:03:31 PM
that's what i thought for a second, except my mom saw it spinning right, i saw it spinning left at the same time
well then, nevermind what I said :)
Quote from: Mark on October 18, 2007, 12:04:52 PM
To save clicking away from GMG, let's stick her in this thread. ;)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.switched.com/media/2007/10/spinningdancer_54.gif)
All this clockwise and counterclockwise junk is messing me up...she is turning to her left! To side of the foot in the air. What does that mean? Don't you think she gets dizzy?
OMFG weird...I started reading the text....and she started turning the other way! This is messing with me isn't it?
When I think about it she turns left, but when I stopped to send an email she was going right...and it gave me a headache and shes going left again. Major funking up my head. How can 2 people (or myself) see the same thing differently?
Does she look to be spinning faster sometimes than others?
This just keeps getting weirder....I opened the gif in Adobe Image ready to study it frame by frame, and in that it was turning right will when I look at the webpage it turned left...
Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 19, 2007, 12:01:15 AM
Does she look to be spinning faster sometimes than others?
it looks like that to me, but it's only because the computer can't be at top speed all the time, especially if you open another program, it'll just slow it down
and how you mentioned it changing direction after you look at something and then look back- lol, weird isn't it :D
First clockwise, then counterclockwise. Weird.
Keep looking at her. Can still only see her turning clockwise.
Quote from: Mark on October 19, 2007, 07:24:52 AM
Keep looking at her. Can still only see her turning clockwise.
To be crystal clear, this means when her feet are facing you, they move right to left?
Depends on how I look at it.....sometimes clockwise, sometimes counter. Good to know that I have access to both sides of my brain. Now I just need to apply each side in a higher manner.
Quote from: George on October 19, 2007, 07:28:12 AM
To be crystal clear, this means when her feet are facing you, they move right to left?
Correct.
Doesn't surprise me that I see only this: I'm a creative type and therefore very much a right-side-of-the-brain user. ;D
Quote from: Mark on October 19, 2007, 08:16:39 AM
Correct.
Doesn't surprise me that I see only this: I'm a creative type and therefore very much a right-side-of-the-brain user. ;D
It shouldn't surprise me that I see it the other way, actually.
However, somehow I think that I can use my intellect to se it the other way. I guess not. :-\
I used to drive a Math teacher/school treasurer crazy during faculty meetings with my contradictory word-plays. He wanted his world to be a neat little mathematically precise box - with no decorations - and anybody reveling in gray areas and making 4 = 5 drove him almonds, pecans, and cashews...Gesundheit! (That's an example of something he could not understand.)
He was a priest 0:) who quite rightly had no contact with duties at a parish, where life was not neat. He stayed in his office and played with his calculator. Most probably he was an adult with Asperger's.
I see both.
"Take the test for yourself. Then, if you have time for a 50-question survey, compare these instant results to a more thorough diagnosis."
Those words were imbedded in the initial post on this thread. Did anyone take the 50-question quiz? My results were 70% left brain, 30% Right brain. That does agree with the way I see the lady dancing.
I had hoped the link would transfer to here but it didn't.
Quote from: Anne on October 19, 2007, 09:48:32 AM
Did anyone take the 50-question quiz?
I probably would have, if they hadn't been so honest about the number of questions. ;D
Quote from: Wendell_E on October 19, 2007, 09:55:02 AM
I probably would have, if they hadn't been so honest about the number of questions. ;D
The questions are multiple guess and are very fast to answer.
I did go ahead and take it. Got the same 70% left, 30% right result you did. But I see her spinning clockwise, which it says means I'm using the right side.
Quote from: Cato on October 19, 2007, 08:27:29 AM
I used to drive a Math teacher/school treasurer crazy during faculty meetings with my contradictory word-plays. He wanted his world to be a neat little mathematically precise box - with no decorations - and anybody reveling in gray areas and making 4 = 5 drove him almonds, pecans, and cashews...Gesundheit! (That's an example of something he could not understand.)
He was a priest 0:) who quite rightly had no contact with duties at a parish, where life was not neat. He stayed in his office and played with his calculator. Most probably he was an adult with Asperger's.
if he ended up really getting to you, you could have a pulled an April Fool's joke by putting a bunch of Escher paintings in his office >:D
I took the test:
Your percentage score for the right brain is 59%.
Your percentage score for the left brain is 41%.
You are more right-brained than left-brained. The right side of your brain controls the left side of your body. In addition to being known as right-brained, you are also known as a creative thinker who uses feeling and intuition to gather information. You retain this information through the use of images and patterns. You are able to visualize the "whole" picture first, and then work backwards to put the pieces together to create the "whole" picture. Your thought process can appear quite illogical and meandering. The problem-solving techniques that you use involve free association, which is often very innovative and creative. The routes taken to arrive at your conclusions are completely opposite to what a left-brained person would be accustomed. You probably find it easy to express yourself using art, dance, or music. Some occupations usually held by a right-brained person are forest ranger, athlete, beautician, actor/actress, craftsman, and artist.
Quote from: Anne on October 19, 2007, 09:48:32 AM
"Take the test for yourself. Then, if you have time for a 50-question survey, compare these instant results to a more thorough diagnosis."
Those words were imbedded in the initial post on this thread. Did anyone take the 50-question quiz? My results were 70% left brain, 30% Right brain. That does agree with the way I see the lady dancing.
I had hoped the link would transfer to here but it didn't.
I did take it, actually. 54/46, Left/Right Hemisphere "use", apparently (though not sure about the exact percentages). But really, even the initial assumption of hemisphere use
deciding which way an optical (i.e. pertaining to visual perception) "illusion" spins is a tough sell.
(Or at least in my opinion, and past a certain point.
Still, it was fun enough: and the 50 questions did have relevance enough to hemisphere use to have a certain merit, that I'll grant. ;)
Quote from: Renfield on October 19, 2007, 01:00:42 PM
I did take it, actually. 54/46, Left/Right Hemisphere "use", apparently (though not sure about the exact percentages). But really, even the initial assumption of hemisphere use deciding which way an optical (i.e. pertaining to visual perception) "illusion" spins is a tough sell.
(Or at least in my opinion, and past a certain point.
Still, it was fun enough: and the 50 questions did have relevance enough to hemisphere use to have a certain merit, that I'll grant. ;)
Thanks, Renfield, for weighing in with your opinion. Glad you enjoyed it. I also agree about the "tough sell."
Your percentage score for the right brain is 64%.
Your percentage score for the left brain is 36%.
For me, the dancer only spins clockwise. However, I took the test and I came out 50-50. :-\
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 19, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
For me, the dancer only spins clockwise. However, I took the test and I came out 50-50. :-\
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Don't listen to music when you look at it. And try thinking about physics or something and you will probably see her dance for you in the other direction. As soon as i listen to music she goes cw, but if i think about stuff she will go the other way.
Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 19, 2007, 03:58:27 PM
Don't listen to music when you look at it. And try thinking about physics or something and you will probably see her dance for you in the other direction. As soon as i listen to music she goes cw, but if i think about stuff she will go the other way.
Interesting and logical. I'll try it.
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I have noticed if you scroll down on the webpage, and just look at the shadow, it usually will look like she is turning right ccw. Try it and let me know, scroll down so you can only see the shadow.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on October 19, 2007, 03:05:31 PM
For me, the dancer only spins clockwise. However, I took the test and I came out 50-50.
Same here, clockwise whatever I do
Your percentage score for the right brain is 51%.
Your percentage score for the left brain is 50%.
Quote from: Drasko on October 19, 2007, 07:24:11 PM
Same here, clockwise whatever I do
Your percentage score for the right brain is 51%.
Your percentage score for the left brain is 50%.
hmmm...
I can make her go whichever way I want. I can make her alternate each spin if I want to. ;D
71 dB is right. It's a 2D illusion that works because her pivot leg is ambiguous, it can be either her left leg or right leg and because it's a solid black silhouette in 2D it's impossible to tell whether the other leg passes behind or in front of the pivot leg. The fact that it moves up and down creates the illusion that it is spinning, which depending on which way you focus can be either clockwise or anticlockwise.
The easiest way is to just concentrate on her pivot leg and think of it as being either the right leg or left leg. Or else, think of her other leg as passing behind or in front of the pivot leg each turn.
I've no doubt it's an illusion, but I still see only clockwise. I stared for half an hour yesterday - couldn't see her spinning the other way.
Quote from: Mark on October 20, 2007, 02:14:56 AM
I've no doubt it's an illusion, but I still see only clockwise. I stared for half an hour yesterday - couldn't see her spinning the other way.
Well you must look away! It doesn't just change direction while you are starring at it, It is always when I look away. Did you try the shadow thing? Zoom into her foot all the way. I usually see her going clockwise, but when i do that she changes direction once I zoom out. I've stared at this thing way to long the last 2 days....
Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 20, 2007, 02:40:23 AM
Well you must look away! It doesn't just change direction while you are starring at it, It is always when I look away. Did you try the shadow thing? Zoom into her foot all the way. I usually see her going clockwise, but when i do that she changes direction once I zoom out. I've stared at this thing way to long the last 2 days....
Tried everything. She just goes clockwise. I'm actually surprised, given my score in the subsequent test, that I'm not more right-brained.
I dont know if its my brain that is messed up but when it sees just the shadow part moving left...and then zooms out the girl always is going ccw. But left alone it goes cw. I find this fascinating I dont know why ;D
For me it was CW, then CCW later.
I do not belief that it has anything to do with what side of the brain that you're saying. There was no explanation for that assertion that was acceptable, they simply wanted you to just accept what they were saying as truth. Obviously the brain's attempt to fill in the 2d motion as really a 3d rotation has something to do with it, but that really is a big leap from saying that it tells you what side of the brain you're using. It's a fun amusement but nothing more. Just like the quiz. You should have fun with these kind of things, but don't think that they really tell you anything about yourself.
Quote from: Mark on October 20, 2007, 02:54:09 AM
Tried everything. She just goes clockwise. I'm actually surprised, given my score in the subsequent test, that I'm not more right-brained.
i wouldn't put much emphasis on that test or on any sense of creativity from it either. You saw my score, the highest one yet I think. All it means is that I hate organisation and math, nothing more.
My score:
Your percentage score for the left brain is 56%.
Your percentage score for the right brain is 44%.
A joke or not, at least not far from my own impression of the matter.
For me, she turns clockwise about 75% of the time, and counter-clockwise about 25 % of the time. She always starts out going clockwise.
Took the 50 QQQ test. It says--
Brain Type Test - Free Results
Are You Left-Brained or Right-Brained?
Although one side of the brain is generally dominant over the other, we should strive to utilize both halves. A balanced brain makes a balanced person - combining sequential thinking with a holistic approach, or linear thinking with intuition, enables us to fully comprehend issues and solve problems. Left-brainers can dramatically improve their problem solving abilities by learning to "follow their gut," while right-brainers can improve the execution of their creative efforts.
Realizing your dominant half is the first step in becoming balance-brained.
Your percentage score for the left brain is 51%.
Your percentage score for the right brain is 49%.
You are more left-brained than right-brained. Your left brain controls the right side of your body. In addition to being known as left-brained, you are also known as a critical thinker who uses logic and sense to collect information. You are able to retain this information through the use of numbers, words, and symbols. You usually only see parts of the "whole" picture, but this is what guides you step-by-step in a logical manner to your conclusion. Concise words, numerical and written formulas and technological systems are often forms of expression for you. Some occupations usually held by a left-brained person include a lab scientist, banker, judge, lawyer, mathematician, librarian, and skating judge.
Your left brain/right brain percentage was calculated by combining the individual scores of each half's sub-categories. They are as follows:
Left Brain
Linear
Sequential
Symbolic
Logical
Verbal
Reality-based
Right Brain
Holistic
Random
Concrete
Intuitive
Nonverbal
Fantasy-oriented
I don't care which way she's spinning, I just want to meet her.
Quote from: longears on October 20, 2007, 10:37:50 AM
I don't care which way she's spinning, I just want to meet her.
Get in the queue, buddy. ;D
I don't want to meet her. She's wearing a pony tail, which I think of only in connection with young teen age girls. Getting it up for her would make me feel like a perv. It makes me sick.
Now the girl in somebody's signature that's wearing the tight T shirt with ENGLAND on it? Well, that's a different story. :P
Quote from: RebLem on October 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
Now the girl in somebody's signature that's wearing the tight T shirt with ENGLAND on it? Well, that's a different story. :P
Cue: sidoze. ;D
Quote from: RebLem on October 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
I don't want to meet her. She's wearing a pony tail, which I think of only in connection with young teen age girls. Getting it up for her would make me feel like a perv. It makes me sick.
Now the girl in somebody's signature that's wearing the tight T shirt with ENGLAND on it? Well, that's a different story. :P
I came across something the other day which helped me to have compassion for you, even though the short-sighted self-righteousness oozing from so many posts still presents a challenge to reading them. From http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/412229 (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/412229):
Humor appreciation appears to be based in the lower frontal lobes of the brain, a location associated with social and emotional judgment and planning, according to imaging research. That might explain why people who have suffered strokes involving the lower frontal lobes of the brain may have alterations of personality which include loss of their sense of humor.
Quote from: RebLem on October 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
I don't want to meet her. She's wearing a pony tail, which I think of only in connection with young teen age girls. Getting it up for her would make me feel like a perv. It makes me sick.
Now the girl in somebody's signature that's wearing the tight T shirt with ENGLAND on it? Well, that's a different story. :P
The dancing girls is in her 20s. What is to young for you?
Clockwise.
Quote from: RebLem on October 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
I don't want to meet her. She's wearing a pony tail, which I think of only in connection with young teen age girls. Getting it up for her would make me feel like a perv. It makes me sick.
You are confusing yourself. The perv here is the guy that rendered her nipples with so much artistry and enthusiasm. >:D
Clockwise. All the time. Watch the pivoting foot. Watch the big toe (longest portion of her foot). It's inside, right? So it's her left foot, right? Not the right, right? Left, then. Obviously.
Quote from: RebLem on October 20, 2007, 10:34:09 AM
Realizing your dominant half is the first step in becoming balance-brained.
Your percentage score for the left brain is 51%.
Your percentage score for the right brain is 49%.
The question is how much is left of the right half of the brain.
Quote from: Manuel on October 20, 2007, 11:21:57 AM
Clockwise.
You are confusing yourself. The perv here is the guy that rendered her nipples with so much artistry and enthusiasm. >:D
what if it was a lady who drew her?....
Quote from: premont on October 20, 2007, 11:30:29 AM
The question is how much is left of the right half of the brain.
Very clever!
Quote from: Mark on October 20, 2007, 11:04:01 AM
Cue: sidoze. ;D
unfortunately I am about to remove that shirt, which gives me rather mixed feelings right now ;D
QuoteShe's wearing a pony tail, which I think of only in connection with young teen age girls
I adore the look of a pony tail at a slanted angle where it's tied back on the right or left of centre. Straight back is boring. Fortunately it's a rather rare look--at least here it is--which makes seeing one all the more exciting. Blame it on the chaos/random preference in my score :)
Quote from: sidoze on October 21, 2007, 06:25:39 AM
I adore the look of a pony tail at a slanted angle where it's tied back on the right or left of centre. Straight back is boring. Fortunately it's a rather rare look--at least here it is--which makes seeing one all the more exciting. Blame it on the chaos/random preference in my score :)
Like... Lady Sov (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=lady+sovereign&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)? *cries*
(http://www.ladysovereign.info/titlegraphic.gif)
oh my god! hahaha first that freakish Britney Spears photo and now this.
Quote from: Lethe on October 21, 2007, 07:55:07 AM
Like... Lady Sov (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=lady+sovereign&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)? *cries*
(http://www.ladysovereign.info/titlegraphic.gif)
Reminds me of the trashy girl from the movie
Venus.
Quote from: Lethe on October 21, 2007, 07:55:07 AM
Like... Lady Sov (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=lady+sovereign&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)? *cries*
(http://www.ladysovereign.info/titlegraphic.gif)
Mmmm ... chavtastic. :D
After a few beers, anti clockwise. With no alcohol input I can make her go whichever way I like.
i really would like to see an explanation of why seeing her going clockwise means you're right-brained, and vice versa; since there isn't one we don't know if it's true or not :(.
Quote from: Holden on October 21, 2007, 04:44:10 PM
With no alcohol input I can make her go whichever way I like.
This is usually the inverse of how it works. ;D
Quote from: greg on October 22, 2007, 06:03:04 AM
i really would like to see an explanation of why seeing her going clockwise means you're right-brained, and vice versa; since there isn't one we don't know if it's true or not :(.
Which direction do you want the explanation to go?
?go to explanation the want you do direction Which
;D
Quote from: George on October 22, 2007, 03:26:11 PM
?go to explanation the want you do direction Which
i like this way better, it's more interesting......
hey, this gives me an idea- Retrograde lyrics. I'm sure it's been done before but i never thought of it until now- i wonder why? ??? ;)
Quote from: greg on October 23, 2007, 05:55:03 AM
i like this way better, it's more interesting......
hey, this gives me an idea- Retrograde lyrics. I'm sure it's been done before but i never thought of it until now- i wonder why? ??? ;)
?hsirebbig eb dluow ti esuaceb ebyaM
trazoM ksa tsuj
Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 23, 2007, 06:00:13 AM
?hsirebbig eb dluow ti esuaceb ebyaM
trazoM ksa tsuj
.....siht ekil gnisufnoc tub yaw s'egroeG ni nuf eb dluow tI
Quote from: greg on October 23, 2007, 05:55:03 AM
hey, this gives me an idea- Retrograde lyrics. I'm sure it's been done before but i never thought of it until now- i wonder why? ??? ;)
Paul Celan
!!!aaah-ah, yawa em ekat ot gnimoc er'yehT
Save the picture...zooom in all the way at her calf...and you will see she goes both ways. My kind of gal... ;D So I think maybe at what time you start looking at it has to do with which way your mind picks for her to go. What it doesn't explain is how my brain can make her reverse directions with looking away...My brain wants her to turn left...even when I trick it to make her go right...as soon as i unfocus for an instant she goes cw.
Quote from: Anne on October 20, 2007, 02:00:35 PM
Very clever!
Yes certainly the question is how much is left of the right part of the brain.
And if nothing is left, you still have got the right to know.
And if all is left, it will be all right.
For anyone with more interest in right brain/left brain phenomena, I recommend Betty Edwards's Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, which is now in a new edition. You've not experienced your brain at its best until you've tried drawing upside down! ;D
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512FM0JZYJL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg)
Quote from: hildegard on October 27, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
For anyone with more interest in right brain/left brain phenomena, I recommend Betty Edwards's Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, which is now in a new edition. You've not experienced your brain at its best until you've tried drawing upside down! ;D
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512FM0JZYJL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg)
In secondary school my daughter was taught to draw using the right side of the brain. It takes incredible concentration. is slow progress, and never fails to astound me.
Quote from: hildegard on October 27, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
For anyone with more interest in right brain/left brain phenomena, I recommend Betty Edwards's Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, which is now in a new edition. You've not experienced your brain at its best until you've tried drawing upside down! ;D
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512FM0JZYJL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg)
here the amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0007116454/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2596517-9295855?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193523360&sr=8-1
wow, interesting! i used to try to draw but couldn't get that far, i wonder if drawing pictures upside down would've helped ;D
Quote from: hildegard on October 27, 2007, 11:14:52 AM
For anyone with more interest in right brain/left brain phenomena, I recommend Betty Edwards's Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, which is now in a new edition. You've not experienced your brain at its best until you've tried drawing upside down! ;D
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512FM0JZYJL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg)
Quote from: Anne on October 27, 2007, 12:38:16 PM
In secondary school my daughter was taught to draw using the right side of the brain. It takes incredible concentration. is slow progress, and never fails to astound me.
Quote from: F# Minor on October 27, 2007, 02:19:13 PM
here the amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Drawing-Right-Side-Brain/dp/0007116454/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2596517-9295855?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1193523360&sr=8-1
wow, interesting! i used to try to draw but couldn't get that far, i wonder if drawing pictures upside down would've helped ;D
Honestly, it changes your perception of the world, or better yet, it challenges your perception of it.
One of her concepts is that you present the brain with a challenge that forces the left side of the brain to shut down, allowing the right side to surface. I guess that is what is supposed to happen when you copy a drawing or illustration from its upside down position rather than upright. Logic goes out the window because the drawing is no longer an object you recognize but a collection of lines and curves. Free of preconception, the brain is free to recreate it!
Quote from: hildegard on October 27, 2007, 03:35:16 PM
Honestly, it changes your perception of the world, or better yet, it challenges your perception of it.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y07WVPXZL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg)
An excellent book, for more-or-less that same purpose. ;)
(Though the edition must've been updated since the one I have, as it had neither that "funky" cover, nor the sub-title.)
hildegard:
"One of her concepts is that you present the brain with a challenge that forces the left side of the brain to shut down, allowing the right side to surface. I guess that is what is supposed to happen when you copy a drawing or illustration from its upside down position rather than upright. Logic goes out the window because the drawing is no longer an object you recognize but a collection of lines and curves. Free of preconception, the brain is free to recreate it! "
Thank you for explaining this phenomenon further.
Quote from: Anne on October 27, 2007, 05:35:51 PM
Thank you for explaining this phenomenon further.
My pleasure Anne. What great fun exploring the mysteries of the brain! I would love to have time to delve into the book Renfield mentioned and Ramachandran's other books! :)
Quote from: hildegard on October 28, 2007, 05:52:08 AM
My pleasure Anne. What great fun exploring the mysteries of the brain! I would love to have time to delve into the book Renfield mentioned and Ramachandran's other books! :)
Though do so with heed, as he is not always as objective as he'd like (in my opinion).
Last I knew (20 years ago), researchers had finally realized that the model of left-brain/right-brain dichotomy was based almost entirely on observation of male subjects, and that it's not applicable to females given the significant difference in organizational structure of the female brain. If you want to draw on the right side of your brain, you'd probably better use your left hand.
Thanks for the info. I will ask my daughter next time I see her how she did it. It was a perfect replica of the scene she was copying although on a little smaller scale.