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Title: Which composer is the most refreshing?
Post by: greg on December 02, 2007, 04:32:22 PM
When you listen to a certain composer, which one seems to have a voice that is very much unrelated to anything else?

I vote for Bartok, often listening to his music it makes me wonder, "now how did he come up with that?"  ???
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Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on December 02, 2007, 05:48:11 PM
Bartok is good...

But I'd go with Sibelius. And island if ever there was one.



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Post by: mahlertitan on December 02, 2007, 05:56:35 PM
Hugo Wolf, any of his works are definitely "unique".
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Post by: btpaul674 on December 02, 2007, 06:05:32 PM
Einojuhani Rautavaara or Per Nørgård
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Post by: Mozart on December 02, 2007, 06:25:55 PM
Mozart gives your body electrolytes back, which water alone can't do.
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Post by: Bogey on December 02, 2007, 06:48:47 PM
Instead of composer, I would offer a tandem.  Hogwood and AAM.  They may not always be my first choice, but I always find them refreshing.  I would include Consortium Classicum and Emma Kirkby in this conversation as well.
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Post by: lukeottevanger on December 03, 2007, 12:04:29 AM
When I saw the thread title, I thought 'Nielsen'. Though obviously Janacek too of course ( ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D) though he isn't particularly refreshing for me personally, as he is pretty much home turf....
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Post by: EmpNapoleon on December 03, 2007, 12:13:55 AM
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on December 02, 2007, 04:32:22 PM
I vote for Bartok, often listening to his music it makes me wonder, "now how did he come up with that?"  ???

I agree.  He's most refreshing.
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Post by: 71 dB on December 03, 2007, 01:43:23 AM
Carl Nielsen
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Post by: BachQ on December 03, 2007, 02:33:40 AM
Per Nørgård  
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Post by: Renfield on December 03, 2007, 03:36:10 AM
Nielsen and Sibelius, indeed; hard to choose between them. And also Brahms, for me, believe it or not! :D
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Post by: Grazioso on December 03, 2007, 04:27:11 AM
Bruckner in particular sounds unique. I've only heard a few pieces that sound remotely similar to his work, and two of those were written well after his death.

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Post by: BachQ on December 03, 2007, 05:22:47 AM
Quote from: Renfield on December 03, 2007, 03:36:10 AM
And also Brahms, for me, believe it or not! :D

I was going to say Brahms ....... but no one would believe me........  :'(
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Post by: Renfield on December 03, 2007, 05:33:33 AM
Quote from: D Minor on December 03, 2007, 05:22:47 AM
I was going to say Brahms ....... but no one would believe me........  :'(

Their problem. 0:)
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Post by: MN Dave on December 03, 2007, 05:37:28 AM
"Which composer is the most refreshing?"

Herbie von Lifesaver

Actually...

I'm sure it's some modern composer, but I don't know which one.
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Post by: karlhenning on December 03, 2007, 06:24:11 AM
Well, a number of composers whose work I often find refreshing:

Chopin
Tchaikovsky
Saint-Saëns
Stravinsky
Hindemith
Chávez
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Post by: Hector on December 03, 2007, 06:30:13 AM
Malcolm Arnold.

Serious with a seriously humorous side to him.
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Post by: greg on December 03, 2007, 01:57:18 PM
Nielsen, Sibelius, Norgard.... runners-up for me  8)
the second runner-up, right before Bartok would be Prokofiev and after him, my list would definetely include Henze, Gorecki, and Glass...

in fact, i'm about to throw on some Gorecki since now that i think about it, that would be most refreshing!  0:)
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Post by: Don on December 03, 2007, 02:00:40 PM
I find the inward-looking Froberger very refreshing, but I can't handle more than one hour of him at one sitting.
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Post by: Mark on December 03, 2007, 02:03:09 PM
Um ... yeah ... all of the above, actually. ;D
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Post by: Bogey on December 03, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Copland. 
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Post by: hornteacher on December 03, 2007, 05:31:47 PM
Quote from: Bogey on December 03, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Copland. 

I'll second that.

Just listen to "Grovers Corners" from Our Town or "Down A Country Lane".
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Post by: Que on December 03, 2007, 05:58:06 PM
Biber.

Q
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Post by: PerfectWagnerite on December 03, 2007, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: Bogey on December 03, 2007, 02:57:00 PM
Copland. 
Yes, and Sibelius, especially the 6th symphony.
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Post by: Heather Harrison on December 03, 2007, 07:35:07 PM
At the moment, Charles Ives comes to mind.  His work is unique, unusual, and entertaining.  If I'm feeling a bit bored, jaded, or just plain lazy, I can count on him to jolt me out of my malaise.

Heather
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Post by: Symphonien on December 04, 2007, 12:55:09 AM
Stravinsky.
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Post by: Ten thumbs on December 07, 2007, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on December 03, 2007, 01:57:18 PM
Nielsen, Sibelius, Norgard.... runners-up for me  8)
the second runner-up, right before Bartok would be Prokofiev and after him, my list would definetely include Henze, Gorecki, and Glass...

Maybe there's a Northern influence here somewhere because the first composer who came to mind was Berwald.
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Post by: greg on December 07, 2007, 02:58:11 PM
Quote from: Ten thumbs on December 07, 2007, 02:17:12 PM
Maybe there's a Northern influence here somewhere because the first composer who came to mind was Berwald.
I thought of something 2 days ago..... most of the composers mentioned on this thread tend to be a bit isolated...... notice the lack of German composers. Ives, Sibelius, Bartok, Nielsen..... i guess there aren't too many famous composers associated with them compared to, say, the Schumann-Brahms-Strauss-Beethoven-Dvorak etc. group...
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Post by: glock on August 24, 2025, 03:19:54 PM
Jacob van Eyck
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Post by: KevinP on August 24, 2025, 03:50:51 PM
In terms of having a unique voice, Hovhaness comes to mind. But I'm not sure 'refreshing' is an adjective I would choose, and I say this as someone who generally likes his music.
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Post by: hopefullytrusting on August 24, 2025, 03:59:48 PM
Quote from: glock on August 24, 2025, 03:19:54 PMJacob van Eyck

I'm of two minds here - the most interesting - fresh - sounds I hear always come from pre-Baroque or Contemporary classical.

If I was to nominate specific composers, I think I'd say Ludwig Daser (but most of the Franco-Flemish school would fit here) and, of course, Tine Surel Lange (easily, for me, as the contemporary representative).
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Post by: Karl Henning on August 24, 2025, 04:02:59 PM
First posts ton this thread since 7 Dec 2007, eh? Quoth Mr Spock, "Fascinating!"

To my ears, Stravinsky and Haydn.
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Post by: DavidW on August 24, 2025, 04:39:58 PM
Bach
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Post by: AaronSF on August 24, 2025, 05:23:12 PM
Coca Cola..."a pause that refreshes."   8)
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Post by: Symphonic Addict on August 24, 2025, 05:47:36 PM
(https://drop.philharmoniedeparis.fr/biographies/compositeurs/Janacek-Leos/Portrait-de-Leos-Janacek%C2%A9Osterreichische-Nationalbibliothek.jpg)
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Post by: springrite on August 25, 2025, 10:17:35 AM
Feldman
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Post by: calyptorhynchus on August 26, 2025, 05:22:34 PM
Milhaud, I think.
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Post by: Mister Sharpe on August 26, 2025, 05:27:23 PM
A tough, actually very tough question.  Milhaud was a tempting answer, but nope.  For me, it's Poulenc, and in particular his chamber work.