I'm not listening to atonal music for a long time.
But I'm now listening with a great interest. It seems that my efforts are bein rewarded...
I've listened to Mozart's requiem this afternoon. It's obviously a work of genious.
But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart and Bach now.
Am I dangerously ill?
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart and Bach now.
Am I dangerously ill?
Absolutely. ;D But worry not, my friend, the medication is here:
Quick! Put on Beethoven's late quartets!
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
I'm not listening to atonal music for a long time.
But I'm now listening with a great interest. It seems that my efforts are bein rewarded...
I've listened to Mozart's requiem this afternoon. It's obviously a work of genious.
But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart and Bach now.
Am I dangerously ill?
No, just a little unbalanced. :D
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
I'm not listening to atonal music for a long time.
But I'm now listening with a great interest. It seems that my efforts are bein rewarded...
I've listened to Mozart's requiem this afternoon. It's obviously a work of genious.
But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart and Bach now.
Am I dangerously ill?
Welcome to the Dark Side, my friend >:D
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart and Bach now.
Wow, coming from you, that's like totally shocking and stuff.
Ill?
Hardly...
It's a natural occurrence.
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on January 20, 2008, 05:35:10 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side, my friend >:D
Hahaha, exactly!
It's inevitable; don't bother trying to fight it. Just succumb to its greatness!
8)
QuoteAm I dangerously ill?
Maybe. But that Schoenberg/Berg Concertos CD is fabulous....
What -me worry?
(http://www.notmilk.com/graphics/alfrede.jpg)
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on January 20, 2008, 07:27:13 PM
Wow, coming from you, that's like totally shocking and stuff.
I'm not that sure. :)
At least 3 of my fav composers were known for their attempts to transcend the usual rules of harmony : Beethoven (quartets), Strauss (polytonality) and Liszt (atonality). Another of my favourites, Schnittke, was unescapably influenced by the "second Vienna School".
Furthermore, I've been a great fan of Schönberg tonal works for a long time. Works like
"Pelleas and Melisande" or "Verklärte Nacht" or even the Suite in G are marvellous.
I won't give up before I enjoy every kind of music anyway
Quote from: Mr. Darcy on January 21, 2008, 11:58:26 AM
Maybe. But that Schoenberg/Berg Concertos CD is fabulous....
no doubt
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 21, 2008, 02:48:45 PM
I'm not that sure. :)
At least 3 of my fav composers were known for their attempts to transcend the usual rules of harmony : Beethoven (quartets), Strauss (polytonality) and Liszt (atonality). Another of my favourites, Schnittke, was unescapably influenced by the "second Vienna School".
Furthermore, I've been a great fan of Schönberg tonal works for a long time. Works like
"Pelleas and Melisande" or "Verklärte Nacht" or even the Suite in G are marvellous.
I won't give up before I enjoy every kind of music anyway
Actually, i was referring to the "i like x composer more then Bach am i crazy?" line. ;)
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 21, 2008, 02:48:45 PM
I'm not that sure. :)
At least 3 of my fav composers were known for their attempts to transcend the usual rules of harmony : Beethoven (quartets), Strauss (polytonality) and Liszt (atonality). Another of my favourites, Schnittke, was unescapably influenced by the "second Vienna School".
Furthermore, I've been a great fan of Schönberg tonal works for a long time. Works like
"Pelleas and Melisande" or "Verklärte Nacht" or even the Suite in G are marvellous.
I won't give up before I enjoy every kind of music anyway
Liszt was atonal? BWAHAHAHA! Nice. But seriously.
What exactly is polytonality? Is it a mix of tonal / atonal?
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
I'm not listening to atonal music for a long time.
But I'm now listening with a great interest. It seems that my efforts are bein rewarded...
I've listened to Mozart's requiem this afternoon. It's obviously a work of genious.
But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart and Bach now.
Am I dangerously ill?
natural course of events, it was bound to happen.
I went even further than you did, fell away from Rachmaninov and now greatly admire another russian, Alfred Schnittke. can't get much more opposite than that, no greater distance.
one more transformation concerning 2 scandanavians, distanced myself from Sibelius, for the most part, and now greatly admire Pettersson.
Quote from: 12tone. on January 21, 2008, 04:03:25 PM
What exactly is polytonality?
Music that is essentially in two or more tonalities simultaneously.
Quote from: hornteacher on January 21, 2008, 06:10:50 PM
Music that is essentially in two or more tonalities simultaneously.
Could you post an example, please?
Quote from: 12tone. on January 21, 2008, 06:14:06 PM
Could you post an example, please?
The classic example is Milhaud; as in "The ox on the roof".
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 20, 2008, 02:24:50 PMI've listened to Mozart's requiem this afternoon. But it seems that I prefer Schönberg over Mozart now.
Am I dangerously ill?
No, it's called "The
other Mozart Effect" :P
Quote from: paulb on January 21, 2008, 05:48:48 PM
natural course of events, it was bound to happen.
I went even further than you did, fell away from Rachmaninov and now greatly admire another russian, Alfred Schnittke. can't get much more opposite than that, no greater distance.
one more transformation concerning 2 scandanavians, distanced myself from Sibelius, for the most part, and now greatly admire Pettersson.
Rachmaninov was one of my favourite when I started my collection.
Still like him very much but I love Schnittke.
I also prefer Pettersson to Sibelius. Listening to Pettersson 8 just now, brother!
Yeah, you're ill, I'm sorry. If it was Berg, ok, but Schönberg over Bach... no, can't be. Sorry.
Quote from: 12tone. on January 21, 2008, 06:14:06 PM
Could you post an example, please?
Biber's Battaglia if you need an older example (which can make us think of the battle in Strauss "Ein Heldenleben")
Regarding Liszt, you can't say he didn't try to transcend the music of his time.
I don't know an older atonal work than his "Bagatelle sans tonalité"
Quote from: quintett op.57 on January 22, 2008, 12:15:22 PM
Rachmaninov was one of my favourite when I started my collection.
Still like him very much but I love Schnittke.
I also prefer Pettersson to Sibelius. Listening to Pettersson 8 just now, brother!
Interesting comments.
Glad to know others like you who appreciate both these late 20th C composers.
In time i feel your affectations for Rachmaninov will fall away.
As I see the Sibelius sound world has fallen off due to your exposure to Pettersson.
Its really an inevitable psychological process, normal course of events in the mind.
I hope one day you get to hear the 12th , but the Caprice recording, after you've heard the cycle 5-15, including the 12th with CPO label.
This Caprice 12th is something altogether darker and moving that all the others. Schnittke comes close to this depth of power and underworldly imagery.