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The Music Room => Opera and Vocal => Topic started by: Michel on April 28, 2007, 01:00:09 AM

Title: Jerome Hines
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2007, 01:00:09 AM
Mike and I were having a conversation about this singer this morning, after watching some performances on youtube below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOTm_ec42z4&mode=related&search= Don Carlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14oM-FWmXBo&mode=related&search= Faust

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbrmMmtY68 - Boris

I think he sounds quite similar to Christoff, who I love, although less so I think in the final video here.

He seems to have few appearance on record - I can't find decent CD's anywhere. And since many of you are American, I thought you may have some interesting insights/information (what to buy!)about him, having been at the Met for so long.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Xenophanes on April 28, 2007, 08:06:12 AM
I don't really think he sounded much like Boris Christoff, but Hines was a wonderful singer.  There are some recordings listed on Amazon, although only some seem to be available new.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw/104-7564307-3333512?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=jerome+hines&Go.x=12&Go.y=11&Go=Go

There are some references in the Wikipedia article, and the interview with Joseph Shore is very interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Hines

Apparently you can download recordings from here:

http://www.josephshore.com/Hines/mp3s.htm
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on April 28, 2007, 09:33:51 AM
Hines sang Wotan in the 1960 Ring Cycle from Bayreuth conducted by Kempe. It is, unfortunately, not available in the US.
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2007, 10:59:18 AM
THanks for this. That mp3 link page contains a most hilarious biography. He will an odd born again Christian.
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on April 28, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
Do we know he was odd....possibly that is more the epithet for the person writing that cringeworthy biog.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2007, 11:07:09 AM
Quote from: knight on April 28, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
Do we know he was odd....possibly that is more the epithet for the person writing that cringeworthy biog.

From my understanding he was a born again Christian..
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on April 28, 2007, 11:52:11 AM
Yes, but that is not necessarily odd, whereas the biog was indeed odd.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2007, 01:10:40 PM
It depends how we are to define "Born again". If we are to mean someone who has simply become religious, then no I don't believe it is odd. But if we are referring to the Evangelical American kind, then I would immediately extend the slur odd.
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on April 28, 2007, 01:17:47 PM
Yes, you would.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2007, 04:03:06 PM
Why don't we have an inappropriate and highly offensive public debate about how crap American Christianity is? Culminating in me being horrendusly insulting?  ;D
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on April 29, 2007, 01:03:40 AM
And being banned.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Michel on April 29, 2007, 09:15:34 AM
Quote from: knight on April 29, 2007, 01:03:40 AM
And being banned.

Where is your sense of humour?  $:)
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on April 29, 2007, 11:11:27 AM
Same place as yours....as you very well know.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Yasser on May 03, 2007, 10:18:42 AM
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on April 28, 2007, 09:33:51 AM
Hines sang Wotan in the 1960 Ring Cycle from Bayreuth conducted by Kempe. It is, unfortunately, not available in the US.

Correction PW: Hines sang Wotan in the Walkure only. Hermann Uhde was the Wotan in Rheingold and Siegfried. I have this Ring cycle. It was available at one point at broinc.

Yasser
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on May 03, 2007, 10:20:46 AM
Can you report on Hines at all?

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Yasser on May 03, 2007, 10:26:33 AM
Quote from: knight on May 03, 2007, 10:20:46 AM
Can you report on Hines at all?

Mike

Is this a nice way of saying "Keep your comments to yourself " or are you really interested in my opinion?
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on May 03, 2007, 10:29:07 AM
No.....both Michel and I would really like to know, as we have just discovered his voice and there is not much out there by him. I realise it might be a bit of a slog if you now would have to listen to bits of the recording to enable you to give any detail, which is why I put it as I did.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Yasser on May 03, 2007, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: knight on May 03, 2007, 10:29:07 AM
No.....both Michel and I would really like to know, as we have just discovered his voice and there is not much out there by him. I realise it might be a bit of a slog if you now would have to listen to bits of the recording to enable you to give any detail, which is why I put it as I did.

Mike

I have not listened to the Kempe Ring in 5 years and it is the only recording of Hines that I have. I will try to listen to the last 2 acts of the Walkure during the weekend and report back.

Yasser
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on May 03, 2007, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: Yasser on May 03, 2007, 10:18:42 AM
Correction PW: Hines sang Wotan in the Walkure only. Hermann Uhde was the Wotan in Rheingold and Siegfried. I have this Ring cycle. It was available at one point at broinc.

Yasser

You are absolutely correct. I haven't listened to anything in this cycle other than Walkure.
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: knight66 on May 03, 2007, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: Yasser on May 03, 2007, 10:32:39 AM
I have not listened to the Kempe Ring in 5 years and it is the only recording of Hines that I have. I will try to listen to the last 2 acts of the Walkure during the weekend and report back.

Yasser

Thanks for that. I only have an EMI recording of Kempe's Ring in the form of excerpts of Reingold, it is by far my favourite, lyrical and dramatic. Absolutely beautiful.

Mike
Title: Re: Jerome Hines
Post by: Russel on May 12, 2007, 09:21:26 PM
I was dismayed by some of the uninformed comments made about Jerome Hines earlier in this thread. Apparently, these posters  were unaware of Mr. Hines' artistic personality and had not been around the Met when Jerome Hines sang there. I heard him sing many times from the 1960's through the 1980's. I later met him when he and his wife gave opera performances and workshops for public school students. He and his wife helped many a student enjoy opera. I can attest to the fact that he was an upstanding man in all ways -- honest, personable, and dedicated.

For the record, his 1960 Giovanni was one of the best I've ever heard. I heard him sing seven Gurnemanzes, and he was, at the time (1960's) considered perhaps the finest Gurnemanz in the world. His King Philip was overpowering, in my opinion (and Mr. Hines was very tall.) Other great roles at the Met I saw: two Wotans (Rheingold and Walkure) and some of best sung and best acted Boris Godunovs ever to have been seen in New York.

But this is the beside the point. He was a marvelous man and a great artist whom I remember fondly.