What the heck, one more round... :-*
To play, all you have to do is listen to the small clips, and take a guess who the 20th century composer is for each one, and then reply in this thread with your answers/guesses. It's ok to list the names of the composers or at least their initials so that we know that you do in fact know the answers....rather than saying "i know this one"...if for some reason you don't want to list the name or initials of the composer just send me a PM with your answers. A good suggestion for this game is that everyone who wants to make a guess, doesn't read any of the others until they have listened to the examples and posted.
Clip 1 (24 sec.), Clip 2 (27 sec.), Clip 3 (39 sec.), Clip 4 (56 sec.)
Clip 5 (32 sec.), Clip 6 (31 sec.), Clip 7 (31 sec.) & Clip 8 (30 sec.)
download clips here: http://www.speedyshare.com/190666781.html
Some of these clips may be VERY easy for some folks here. :)
2- Penderecki Threnody
3- Prokofiev- Romeo and Juliet
4- Bartok- Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta
5- Varese- Ionisation
7- Xenakis- Xas (not 100% sure)
Possibly I'll get a chance on this set before they're all snaffled up!
edit - no, Greg's got them downloaded quicker than me!
ones he missed -
1 - Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man
6 - I can't hear anything here, but I can with the others, so maybe that old Cage 4'33" isn't such a bad guess here!
8 - Poulenc - Mouvements Perpetuels (no 1)
Quote from: lukeottevanger on March 16, 2008, 06:18:43 AM
Possibly I'll get a chance on this set before they're all snaffled up!
edit - no, Greg's got them downloaded quicker than me!
ones he missed -
1 - Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man
6 - I can't hear anything here, but I can with the others, so maybe that old Cage 4'33" isn't such a bad guess here!
8 - Poulenc - Mouvements Perpetuels (no 1)
I would say 1 is instead from the Copland 3rd symphony, where he reuses that material.
Of the others, I knew 2-5 and 8, but they're already guessed correctly. No idea on 6 or 7.
Quote from: lukeottevanger on March 16, 2008, 06:18:43 AM
6 - I can't hear anything here, but I can with the others, so maybe that old Cage 4'33" isn't such a bad guess here!
it does have audio...... sounds like Anders Hillborg, to me....
1 - Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man (NOT Symphony No. 3 I think)
2 - Penderecki - Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima
3 - I have no idea, but I'm interested!
4 - Bartok??
5 - ??
6 - Cage - Sonatas & Interludes for Prepared Piano (I forget which one, VI I think-- one of my favourites)
7 - I have no idea but it cracks me up LOL
8 - Poulanc??
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on March 16, 2008, 06:14:34 AM
5- Varese- Ionisation
OK, I was thinking Varese, but what little I've heard of him has never sounded so rhythmic...
Quote from: just josh on March 16, 2008, 06:40:33 AM
1 - Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man (NOT Symphony No. 3 I think)
On second listen, I think you and Luke are right.
Quote from: just josh on March 16, 2008, 06:40:33 AM
3 - I have no idea, but I'm interested!
As already has been stated, it's Romeo & Juliet by Prokofiev; the greatest ballet score ever!
Quote from: erato on March 16, 2008, 07:05:29 AM
As already has been stated, it's Romeo & Juliet by Prokofiev; the greatest ballet score ever!
:-[ Yet another composer I have barely touched but need to.
Quote from: erato on March 16, 2008, 07:05:29 AM
As already has been stated, it's Romeo & Juliet by Prokofiev; the greatest ballet score ever!
well....... 2nd greatest after the Rite of Spring ;)
Why just one?
There's no end to how many of these we could do. Any road, here's my answers, before reading the others' answers:
1-Copland. Best I can tell, this is the fourth movement of the third symphony, but it might just be the Fanfare for the Common Man plain and simple. Hard to tell over my little computer speakers, but I'm guessing it's the Fanfare as it appears in the third.
2-_______. I hate when you choose something I know perfectly well, something even that I have. Pffft. But I don't have time to go through every Xenakis I own, only to find out that it's Penderecki or maybe even someone entirely other.
3-Prokofiev, Romeo & Juliet
4-Bartok, Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta
5-Varese, Ionisation
6-Cage, some sonata or interlude or whatever for prepared piano. Not one I've heard before, anyway.
7-_______________-this is one I have, I'm sure....
8-Has a Satie sound to it. But I don't really know Satie all that well, so it could be a number of other people, too, I suppose.
OK. I'm ready to peek at the other answers, now.
Hmmm. I just found out a couple of weeks ago that I do not have Threnody on CD.
And Xas, eh? I have that. (Rascher Quartet?) But I can't find it. Not filed under Xenakis, anyway. What else is on that disc??
1. Hmm... not really sure. Perhaps this is Copland's famous Fanfare for the Common Man? (Just a wild guess, I have never heard it...)
2. Penderecki - Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima
3. Not really sure... Maybe Prokofiev?
4. Bartok - Music for Strings, Percussion and Celeste
5. Varese - Ionisation ?
6. Cage - Piano Sonata No. 5 from the Sonatas and Interludes for Prepared Piano
7. No idea... but certainly quite a striking opening there!
8. No idea.
Quote from: some guy on March 16, 2008, 10:15:05 AM
Hmmm. I just found out a couple of weeks ago that I do not have Threnody on CD.
And Xas, eh? I have that. (Rascher Quartet?) But I can't find it. Not filed under Xenakis, anyway. What else is on that disc??
http://www.amazon.com/Xenakis-%C3%89change-Akrata-M%C2%B1moire-Lutoslawski/dp/B000000NZ9
i don't even have the actual CD for Xas, just the track!
so i'm missing Échange, Okho, and In memory of Witold Lutoslawski (plus there's another recording of Akrata- do they really need that many recordings of that work?) ::)
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on March 17, 2008, 05:25:57 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Xenakis-%C3%89change-Akrata-M%C2%B1moire-Lutoslawski/dp/B000000NZ9
i don't even have the actual CD for Xas, just the track!
so i'm missing Échange, Okho, and In memory of Witold Lutoslawski (plus there's another recording of Akrata- do they really need that many recordings of that work?) ::)
I was a bit late to these, so won't bother posting. However, I'd like to note that
Échange is, IMO, one of the best works in IX's late style.
I've even been lucky enough to hear it live. ;)
Quote from: edward on March 17, 2008, 06:59:52 AM
I've even been lucky enough to hear it live. ;)
wow, how far did you have to travel to hear that one? Antarctica? ;D
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on March 17, 2008, 07:01:46 AM
wow, how far did you have to travel to hear that one? Antarctica? ;D
Actually, it was a 8-stop subway ride to the same venue where I met Elliott Carter the year before. ;)
Toronto can be a nice place to live, despite the snow.....
Quote from: James on March 17, 2008, 08:28:32 AM
#1 - Copland's 3rd Symphony
ARGH!!! It was the third symphony after all! Damn! LOL
To tell the truth - with all this 'is it the Fanfare or the Third Symph' conundrum - personally, I only listend to a chord or two, and then guessed at the former over the latter. That was enough - I really don't have much time for Copland, I'm afraid!
Quote from: just josh on March 17, 2008, 08:50:06 AM
ARGH!!! It was the third symphony after all! Damn! LOL
Hilarious - I guessed it right and then thought I had it wrong. Do I get partial credit?
Quote from: lukeottevanger on March 17, 2008, 09:15:45 AM
To tell the truth - with all this 'is it the Fanfare or the Third Symph' conundrum - personally, I only listend to a chord or two, and then guessed at the former over the latter. That was enough - I really don't have much time for Copland, I'm afraid!
Sounds like what I feel about Havergal Brian . . . .
Ooh, naughty naughty! Of course, I've listened to and played a lot] of Copland, of all his various styles and moods; I've also read around others' views on him in order to try to find a way in, and I've given him many chances, and continue to do so. Naturally, I'm sure the same applies to you and Brian, too, and that you haven't only listened to the Gothic and found it wanting.... :P ;D
I'm afraid there's just not enough to Copland for my own tastes.
Quote from: lukeottevanger on March 17, 2008, 10:06:06 AM
Ooh, naughty naughty! Of course, I've listened to and played a lot] of Copland, of all his various styles and moods; I've also read around others' views on him in order to try to find a way in, and I've given him many chances, and continue to do so. Naturally, I'm sure the same applies to you and Brian, too, and that you haven't only listened to the Gothic and found it wanting.... :P ;D
Hah! I can't even
get through the Gothic. And you want me to hear more!
Wouldn't you recommend someone put off by Mahler 8 (not too hard to imagine!) to listen to another, perhaps smaller and more concise Mahler symphony first before discarding all Mahler? In Brian's case, there are (amongst other things) 31 more symphonies of all shapes and sizes, filling up the 40 or so years after the Gothic was written. Try the short, incredibly concise, highly original, gorgeous sounding, formally clear Brian 8, for instance. It is, in any case, a more typcial, fully realised work... :)