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Title: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Siedler on May 01, 2007, 11:31:04 AM
We had several threads about Amazon Marketplace sellers on the old board (e.g. this (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12961.0.html) one about Caiman and this (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,11614.0.html)), but let's continue.
I ordered a CD from recordvillage (amazon.co.uk marketplace), but they haven't sent a confirmation e-mail yet. Does anyone have any experience with this and other sellers?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Michel on May 01, 2007, 12:03:27 PM
The greatest most reliable seller, often at the best price, is Caimen-usa. I literally buy 90 percent of my stuff from them. Quick, and always reliable. Only downside is that the CD's are not amazingly well packed so occasionaly a broken one might come through, but not as bad as others, and a small price to pay.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on May 01, 2007, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: Michel on May 01, 2007, 12:03:27 PM
The greatest most reliable seller, often at the best price, is Caimen-usa. I literally buy 90 percent of my stuff from them. Quick, and always reliable. Only downside is that the CD's are not amazingly well packed so occasionaly a broken one might come through, but not as bad as others, and a small price to pay.

Caiman lists many items they do not have in stock - and it takes them months to discover they can't deliver! ;D 
So my advice is to only buy regular, non-OOP items with them!

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Don on May 01, 2007, 12:16:21 PM
Quote from: Michel on May 01, 2007, 12:03:27 PM
The greatest most reliable seller, often at the best price, is Caimen-usa. I literally buy 90 percent of my stuff from them. Quick, and always reliable. Only downside is that the CD's are not amazingly well packed so occasionaly a broken one might come through, but not as bad as others, and a small price to pay.

I'm amazed you consider Caimen the most reliable seller.  In my experience, it's the LEAST dependable.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 12:54:08 PM
My fave sellers:

Newbury Comics and Archiv.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 01, 2007, 02:00:55 PM
Newbury Comics for me, too. They are absolutely tops!

I just had an interesting experience last week with GoHastings. I ordered a disk of Paul Komen playing some Beethoven (fortepiano) after a discussion in the HIP Beethoven thread. I had wanted it for a couple of years, actually, so this looked like a good chance to pick it up. It was the only copy available, BTW. A week later the package arrived, and turned out to be Claudio Arrau playing essentially the same repertoire. I complained and asked how to return it, and they emailed me the same day and said "we don't have that disk any more. Keep the other one as a gift and we'll refund your Amazon account". Which they did, the next morning. So, I'm not out anything, but I don't have the disk I wanted either...

8)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Benji on May 01, 2007, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 01, 2007, 02:00:55 PM
Newbury Comics for me, too. They are absolutely tops!

I just had an interesting experience last week with GoHastings. I ordered a disk of Paul Komen playing some Beethoven (fortepiano) after a discussion in the HIP Beethoven thread. I had wanted it for a couple of years, actually, so this looked like a good chance to pick it up. It was the only copy available, BTW. A week later the package arrived, and turned out to be Claudio Arrau playing essentially the same repertoire. I complained and asked how to return it, and they emailed me the same day and said "we don't have that disk any more. Keep the other one as a gift and we'll refund your Amazon account". Which they did, the next morning. So, I'm not out anything, but I don't have the disk I wanted either...

8)

Sell the Arrau disc on marketplace and undercut their price. Mua ha ha ha.  >:D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Szykneij on May 01, 2007, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 01, 2007, 02:00:55 PM
I just had an interesting experience last week with GoHastings. I ordered a disk of Paul Komen playing some Beethoven (fortepiano) after a discussion in the HIP Beethoven thread. I had wanted it for a couple of years, actually, so this looked like a good chance to pick it up. It was the only copy available, BTW. A week later the package arrived, and turned out to be Claudio Arrau playing essentially the same repertoire. I complained and asked how to return it, and they emailed me the same day and said "we don't have that disk any more. Keep the other one as a gift and we'll refund your Amazon account". Which they did, the next morning. So, I'm not out anything, but I don't have the disk I wanted either...

8)

I'll never deal with GoHastings again. I once made the mistake of ordering a CD from them (through Amazon) and they sent me the wrong one. They never bothered to respond to my e-mails and I never got what I ordered.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on May 01, 2007, 06:51:33 PM
Another vote for Newbury Comics. Well packaged box sets.

Caiman are good too but the shipping is slower.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Robert on May 01, 2007, 08:37:33 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 01, 2007, 02:00:55 PM
Newbury Comics for me, too. They are absolutely tops!

I just had an interesting experience last week with GoHastings. I ordered a disk of Paul Komen playing some Beethoven (fortepiano) after a discussion in the HIP Beethoven thread. I had wanted it for a couple of years, actually, so this looked like a good chance to pick it up. It was the only copy available, BTW. A week later the package arrived, and turned out to be Claudio Arrau playing essentially the same repertoire. I complained and asked how to return it, and they emailed me the same day and said "we don't have that disk any more. Keep the other one as a gift and we'll refund your Amazon account". Which they did, the next morning. So, I'm not out anything, but I don't have the disk I wanted either...

8)
This is common practice with GoHastings...They did the exact same thing to me twice....Sure they let y ou keep the cd's, but I still send them back...This guy should be exited.from amazon....This is one bad dude......Caiman is not far behind...........As far as I am concerned my main source is Newbury, no contest period....end of discussion........
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Bogey on May 01, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Put me down for Newbury as well.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 02, 2007, 05:04:07 AM
I usually just buy the cheapest option and i never head any problem. Luck i guess...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Michel on May 02, 2007, 07:16:34 AM
Interesting feedback here on Caimen. I have ordered hundreds of discs now and not had one problem...

All have been non OOP and ordered through amazon.co.uk; very interesting. Do any UK buyers have similar experiences to those listed above form our American friends?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Robert on May 02, 2007, 07:22:44 AM
Quote from: Michel on May 02, 2007, 07:16:34 AM
Interesting feedback here on Caimen. I have ordered hundreds of discs now and not had one problem...

All have been non OOP and ordered through amazon.co.uk; very interesting. Do any UK buyers have similar experiences to those listed above form our American friends?

your the one, your the one your the one they call the fortunate son.....
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on May 02, 2007, 07:24:25 AM
Quote from: Michel on May 02, 2007, 07:16:34 AM
Interesting feedback here on Caimen. I have ordered hundreds of discs now and not had one problem...

My orders have not numbered into 3 digits, but I have not had even a single problem, either.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 07:46:05 AM
I haven't had problems with Caiman and I have ordered many CDs from them via Amazon Marketplace. The only negative things is that the delivery time is often long (up to a month) but sooner or later Caiman delivers.  :)

Caiman has nice prices.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on May 02, 2007, 08:26:57 AM


Caimen now owns Tower. Imagine going into one of these re-opened Towers and finding a rare CD.

Only to go home and find the case empty.  ;D

That's what buying from them on amazon is like in my opinion. You don't know if they really have it.  :(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Don on May 02, 2007, 08:40:32 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 07:46:05 AM
I haven't had problems with Caiman and I have ordered many CDs from them via Amazon Marketplace. The only negative things is that the delivery time is often long (up to a month) but sooner or later Caiman delivers.  :)


So does the grim reaper. :D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on May 02, 2007, 08:45:37 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 07:46:05 AM
I haven't had problems with Caiman and I have ordered many CDs from them via Amazon Marketplace. The only negative things is that the delivery time is often long (up to a month) but sooner or later Caiman delivers.  :)

Caiman has nice prices.

Well, that was my point: they usually do not have items in stock - they simpley back order when you order with them. Of course, problems arise when the item is no longer available - eventually...
So: no OOP from Caiman for me! :)

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on May 02, 2007, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: Que on May 02, 2007, 08:45:37 AM
So: no OOP from Caiman for me! :)

Well, that seems sensible enough.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: Que on May 02, 2007, 08:45:37 AM
Well, that was my point: they usually do not have items in stock - they simpley back order when you order with them. Of course, problems arise when the item is no longer available - eventually...
So: no OOP from Caiman for me! :)

Q

If they can't deliver they refund. So, there is nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on May 02, 2007, 09:46:59 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 09:38:29 AM
If they can't deliver they refund. So, there is nothing to lose.

Except all of the other copies that are sold in the meantime by other sellers who actually have a copy.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 10:05:27 AM
Quote from: George on May 02, 2007, 09:46:59 AM
Except all of the other copies that are sold in the meantime by other sellers who actually have a copy.

Yes, but for higher price. Low price is the reason for ordering from Caiman in the first place. These things happen in life, not only while buying CDs.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on May 02, 2007, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 10:05:27 AM
Yes, but for higher price. Low price is the reason for ordering from Caiman in the first place. These things happen in life, not only while buying CDs.

Ordering for a low price makes only sense if you can assume you'll actually get it.

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Robert on May 02, 2007, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Que on May 02, 2007, 10:15:46 AM
Ordering for a low price makes only sense if you can assume you'll actually get it.

Q

BINGO  you are correct sir...That is why I usually pay a little more to get discs from Newbury. I know I will have the disc in my player usually in three days.....Thats worth something....
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Don on May 02, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
Quote from: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 09:38:29 AM
If they can't deliver they refund. So, there is nothing to lose.

Perhaps no financial loss, but there is plenty of loss in other areas. 

I look at it this way.  Anyone who claims to have something to sell, but actually has nothing, can go to hell.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on May 02, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
(Memo to self:  Forget about making offer of Brooklyn Bridge to Don.)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 02, 2007, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: Don on May 02, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
I look at it this way.  Anyone who claims to have something to sell, but actually has nothing, can go to hell.

You are a nice guy!  ;D

I have been lucky and Caiman has had what I have bought from them.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Symphonien on May 03, 2007, 12:03:27 AM
Well, so far Caiman has been the most reliable seller for me - haven't had any problems, and I've ordered with them through both the US and UK sites. My one experience with Newbury Comics was a bad one. I waited about 5-6 weeks and received nothing so I finally emailed them to ask what had happened to my order and they simply said they could not track international orders and refunded me... Got lost or they never even sent it? I don't know.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Siedler on May 03, 2007, 08:48:07 AM
Wow I just got my cd from recordvillage, that was fast!  :D The CD was sealed and undamaged but they did send it in a cardboard box (no bubblewrap or anything  :-\).
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: jwinter on May 03, 2007, 11:43:05 AM
I've ordered maybe 25 discs from Caiman and never had a problem, but then none of those were OOP.  I tend to use them for discs that are in print and easily available, when they have the best price.  So far, so good.

I will also join the chorus that Newbury Comics is awesome.  Super-fast.  If they have it in stock and the price is close, they're my top choice... plus I'm a long-time comic book guy, so they're a sentimental favorite...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on May 22, 2007, 12:37:32 AM
Just discovered that Amazon.com's Marketplace international shipping rate has been raised from $5,49 to $6.89! Damnn... :P (Are they trying to keep up with the declining dollar??)

Amazon's policy on shipping rates is weird anyway.
If I order at the Marketplace of Amazon.de, I have to pay a whopping €6. To get a CD from a neigbouring country! Amazon.de is not very nice to US customers either: €14...
But if I order a CD from "la douce France" (Amazon.fr) I just have to pay €3,40! (To the US: €8,99)

Strange, no? ???

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Maciek on May 22, 2007, 02:12:59 AM
Should I mention once again that the Amazon Marketplace doesn't ship at all, no matter the price, to most of the countries of the world? Including about half of Europe. There are only 25 countries on their list!!! :o :o :o :o They just plain suck. :P
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on May 22, 2007, 03:46:24 AM
Quote from: MrOsa on May 22, 2007, 02:12:59 AM
Should I mention once again that the Amazon Marketplace doesn't ship at all, no matter the price, to most of the countries of the world? Including about half of Europe. There are only 25 countries on their list!!! :o :o :o :o They just plain suck. :P

Maciek, not to Poland? That's idiotic indeed! :o
Is that the US Amazon, or also the UK, German and French Amazons?

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on May 22, 2007, 03:49:39 AM
Quote from: Que on May 22, 2007, 12:37:32 AM
Just discovered that Amazon.com's Marketplace international shipping rate has been raised from $5,49 to $6.89! Damnn... :P (Are they trying to keep up with the declining dollar??)

Rising fuel costs, perhaps?

At any rate, and for whatever passel of reasons, US postage rates went up as of 14 May.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on May 22, 2007, 04:10:09 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on May 22, 2007, 03:49:39 AM
Rising fuel costs, perhaps?

At any rate, and for whatever passel of reasons, US postage rates went up as of 14 May.

That explains it! :)

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Maciek on May 22, 2007, 04:18:17 AM
Quote from: Que on May 22, 2007, 03:46:24 AM
Maciek, not to Poland? That's idiotic indeed! :o
Is that the US Amazon, or also the UK, German and French Amazons?

Q

It's all of them, unfortunately.

Here's a list of the countries covered by "Amazon Payments" - it's not very long and doesn't containt a SINGLE ONE of the "new" EU countries >:(:


I even wrote them once about it but they gave me a very generic reply that they are concerned about my concerns and that's about it. >:(

Needless to say, I've stopped ordering from amazon altogether. My only available form of protest... :'(

Maciek
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on May 22, 2007, 04:22:06 AM
Hmm . . . sounds like that winning combination of financial infrastructure, and corporate lethargy  :(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 22, 2007, 04:37:55 AM
Quote from: MrOsa on May 22, 2007, 04:18:17 AM
Needless to say, I've stopped ordering from amazon altogether. My only available form of protest... :'(

Maciek

Sorry Maciek, I can't afford protesting Amazon.
Thanks to the Marketplace I can buy at least something I want.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Maciek on May 22, 2007, 04:50:05 AM
That's alright, 71 dB, I didn't mean to persuade anyone to give up buying on Amazon! In fact, I'm sure I myself won't keep my resolution very long. But for the time being I'm fed up with them. >:(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on May 22, 2007, 04:52:33 AM
Rose has a great "I'm fed up with amazon!" face in your avatar, Maciek!  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Maciek on May 22, 2007, 04:52:59 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 22, 2007, 05:04:14 AM
Quote from: MrOsa on May 22, 2007, 04:50:05 AM
That's alright, 71 dB, I didn't mean to persuade anyone to give up buying on Amazon! In fact, I'm sure I myself won't keep my resolution very long. But for the time being I'm fed up with them. >:(

Okay. The ironic thing is it's not the Marketplace seller's fault Poland is not included. Amazon sets the rules, not the sellers.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Maciek on May 22, 2007, 07:21:31 AM
Yeah, I know. I once even talked to one who said she didn't know why no one from Poland ever bought from her. I explained. ;D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: rubio on May 22, 2007, 08:55:40 AM
The only problem I have had with Caiman (for about 100 CD's) is that they're not packaged properly (well, one time they advertised an unavailable CD ). Often the CD's have arrived with minor damages in the jewel cases (especially the front cover). I think they are the worst in this matter (together with some private sellers). Newbury Comics are excellent (but do have less items than Caiman), and the same goes for ImportCD.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on May 22, 2007, 09:06:53 AM
Quote from: MrOsa on May 22, 2007, 07:21:31 AM
Yeah, I know. I once even talked to one who said she didn't know why no one from Poland ever bought from her. I explained. ;D

The great mystery was finally solved thanks to you!  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: wintersway on May 22, 2007, 01:53:01 PM
Also put me down as very happy with Newbury Comics! Excellent customer service.

Stay away from mymusic&video.com. I am currently experiencing technical difficulties with them. Horrible, horrible customer service. >:(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on July 27, 2007, 02:18:10 PM
Continuing from the old forum, this is my list. Feel free to post your faves (and the ones you avoid as well)


Recommended:

Newbury Comics- IMO and many others the best seller on Amazon: fast delivery and great customer service!
Russian DVD.com - Excellent customer service and hard to find Russian titles.
archiv- Great reputation, fast delivery.
Wherehouse
Alphacraze
Music Express
Music_Media
ImportCds
movie mars
spun-dot-com
ruslania.com



Avoid:

CDepot
Secondhandtunes
digital_eyes
Cheap_CDs




Questionable:

hermanstreet - Has a good rating, but they often post things that they don't even have. When that's the case, they don't communicate that to the customer, as their customer service isn't poor, its nonexistent.
Direct Offers - Similar issues as hermanstreet.
caiman- I have had good experiences with this seller but like hermanstreet, they post things they don't even have. They have low prices, but its a gamble.
gohastings- I've read more complaints about this one than any other, though some people have had good experiences with them.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on July 27, 2007, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: George on July 27, 2007, 02:18:10 PM
Continuing from the old forum, this is my list. Feel free to post your faves (and the ones you avoid as well)


Recommended:

Newbury Comics- IMO the best seller on Amazon: fast delivery and great customer service!

Definitely agree with you there. They are excellent, even though their stores are not.

Quote
Avoid:

gohastings- I've read more complaints about this one than any other, though some people have had good experiences with them.

I think I ordered something from them once — I remember it taking a while, but it arrived.


Quote
Questionable
caiman- I have had good experiences with this seller but like hermanstreet, they post things they don't even have. They have low prices, but its a gamble.

I've had mostly good experiences with Caiman. They ship usually quickly and always in stated condition. Now that I mention it, that Ravel set I bought a little over a week back just shipped today. I'm guessing they didn't have it in their warehouse.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on July 27, 2007, 02:33:53 PM
I have not received an order from secondhandtunes from nearly two months ago >:(

I contacted them twice;the first time they responded saying 'relax it'll get there' and ignored me the second time.

The time-frame expires on August 4th so I'll contact them again to see if they will make good on the transaction, if not I'll have to file a claim and leave negative feedback :(

I read somewhere here that you can only make three claims on Amazon ??? Is this correct? I think I've made one so far...?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on July 27, 2007, 02:34:51 PM
I will edit this list, SW.

That sucks, BTW.  >:(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on July 27, 2007, 02:36:37 PM
But, I usually use Newbury Comics or Caimen.

Importcds are good too :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on July 27, 2007, 02:57:55 PM
Just checked my Amazon history and I've used music_media alot in the past and they've been good too :)

I had a problem with digital_eyes once too with something not turning up :(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Steve on July 27, 2007, 04:33:41 PM
Quote from: George on July 27, 2007, 02:18:10 PM
Continuing from the old forum, this is my list. Feel free to post your faves (and the ones you avoid as well)


Recommended:

Newbury Comics- IMO the best seller on Amazon: fast delivery and great customer service!
Russian DVD.com - Excellent customer service and hard to find Russian titles.
archiv- Great reputation, fast delivery.
Wherehouse
Alphacraze
Music Express



Avoid:

gohastings- I've read more complaints about this one than any other, though some people have had good experiences with them.
CDepot
Secondhandtunes




Questionable

hermanstreet - Has a good rating, but they often post things that they don't even have. When that's the case, they don't communicate that to the customer, as their customer service isn't poor, its nonexistent.
caiman- I have had good experiences with this seller but like hermanstreet, they post things they don't even have. They have low prices, but its a gamble.



Very helpful thread, George  :)

Although it's never happened to me, how do you go about reporting a claim to Amazon about a bad seller? Are they generally helpful?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on July 27, 2007, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: Steve on July 27, 2007, 04:33:41 PM

Very helpful thread, George  :)

Although it's never happened to me, how do you go about reporting a claim to Amazon about a bad seller? Are they generally helpful?


Luckily, I haven't had to do that. Unless you mean how does one rate ones purchase with a seller, in which case you just click on the feedback button and rate the seller.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: longears on July 28, 2007, 05:20:54 AM
Agreed--Newbury is top-notch.

Favorable reports from GMGers prompted me to try Caiman again (after a terrible experience with atrocious customer service) and I've had good luck with half-a-dozen orders this year, including the Alexander String Quartet's boxset LvB cycle.

I've used go-Hastings many times.  Only once did I have a problem -- a scratched disc that wouldn't play halfway through.  They promptly and cheerfully refunded my money and told me not to bother sending it back.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: SonicMan46 on July 28, 2007, 05:31:29 AM
Newbury Comics has been my favorite sellar - don't always have as much listed, but their selections seem to be 'in stock' and are shipped often in one package!

Caiman - I've used them quite a bit; selections often shipped in small 'bunches' or singly (assume they are finding sources for many items); but to date, I have not had any major issues w/ their service.  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on July 28, 2007, 07:06:03 AM
I checked my order history. I have bought from this praised Newbury Comics once. I have left a comment "Excellent service! Thank You!" with 5 stars rating. I use mostly Caiman for their low prices. So far I have been happy with their service.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Robert on July 28, 2007, 08:39:04 AM
Newbury is my choice by a long shot....I will pay a little more to buy from them because I know that within five days it will be at my door. I have even received goods from them in three days. Most of the cd's are brand new...I will not buy from Caiman period. I have had plenty of empty conversations with Claire. Thank you  but no thank you...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on July 28, 2007, 08:56:44 AM
Perhaps for Finnish customers the benefits of Newbury Comics aren't as significant as for Americans? Nobody could deliver me items from US in 3 or 5 days. It always takes 2-3 weeks no matter who the seller is.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Steve on July 28, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
This thread has prompted me to check my purchasing history. I too, have used Newbury on countless occassions, as well as Caiman, and RussianDVD. To this date, I've never had a problem with service....   ;)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: tjguitar on July 28, 2007, 10:56:11 AM
I had tons of problems with Caiman, but this was over a year (or two) ago, maybe they have improved.  I have nothing but good things to say about gohastings.com If they send an incorrect item, they refund it immediately and let you keep the wrong disc.

NewburyComics is the best.

I've also had very good experience with IndigoHeirlooms, www_fotrecords_com and mymusicandvideocom (which now shown in my history as cddvd4u)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on July 28, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
Quote from: longears on July 28, 2007, 05:20:54 AM
Agreed--Newbury is top-notch.

Favorable reports from GMGers prompted me to try Caiman again (after a terrible experience with atrocious customer service) and I've had good luck with half-a-dozen orders this year, including the Alexander String Quartet's boxset LvB cycle.

I've used go-Hastings many times.  Only once did I have a problem -- a scratched disc that wouldn't play halfway through.  They promptly and cheerfully refunded my money and told me not to bother sending it back.

Thanks for all the replies, from this one forward, I will add your suggestions later when I have a chance.  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on July 28, 2007, 10:07:33 PM
Quote from: Steve on July 28, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
This thread has prompted me to check my purchasing history. I too, have used Newbury on countless occassions, as well as Caiman, and RussianDVD. To this date, I've never had a problem with service....   ;)

Caiman is fine, as long as you don't order items you know that are OOP (out of print).
When you do, you can wait till kingdom come before you hear anything from them. 8)
In such cases I requested the order to be cancelled, and that they did.

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Mark on July 29, 2007, 01:12:57 AM
Here in the UK, I'm very wary now of Direct-Offers. They say they have stuff, then cancel your order because they clearly don't have it. >:( The clue is in the item offered (usually something pretty desirable) and the price they're asking. If it's too cheap, chances are you won't get it. :(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Tom 1960 on July 29, 2007, 04:14:04 AM
I've used Caiman in the past and have had no bad experiences. There selection is broader than most retailers and prices are very good. On the downside you sometimes have to wait longer for there discs to ship and as was already mentioned don't order anything that is OOP. While I've never ordered those items, I have read countless negative comments when it comes to dealing with OOP items. To me it's just not worth the aggravation. As for Newbury Comics, count me as another very happy customer. Outstanding prices and service. The selection unfortunately is not quite up to speed with Caiman if I were to find any fault. As for there stores itself, I was in the Boston area a few months back and came away with a very positive experience. To be honest, I wasn't looking for classical music but jazz issues and I came home with a boatload of cds. I can't wait to make a return visit.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on August 07, 2007, 04:24:09 AM
Today I got Bach's cantatas vol. 22 on BIS in just 6 days (US to Finland) and in perfect condition.

The seller was www.importcds.com.  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on August 07, 2007, 04:35:17 AM
Based on the posts for the last week or two, I am in the process of updating the OP and will be done in a few minutes.

This is where you will continue to find updated info, rather than buried in the middle of this thread.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on October 11, 2007, 05:51:10 PM
Anyone heard of the amazon seller "Cheap_CDs?"

I have been waiting a very long time and they won't return my emails.

??? >:( :( :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on October 11, 2007, 05:55:21 PM
Don't like the sound of that George.

I'm awaiting a few disc's at the moment too;mail seems to be slow to this part of the globe at the moment.

I hope it turns up for you  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on October 11, 2007, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on October 11, 2007, 05:55:21 PM
Don't like the sound of that George.

I'm awaiting a few disc's at the moment too;mail seems to be slow to this part of the globe at the moment.

I hope it turns up for you  :)

Thanks SW.

Days after ordering this CD from a domestic seller, I ordered a CD from MDT in Europe. The Cd from Europe has already arrived.  :-\

The amazon seller has a 95% rating. The only complaints are people never getting their CDs and the company not returning their emails.  ???
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on October 11, 2007, 06:00:51 PM
I had a disc turn up today which was shipped from the US on 18th Sept!

I usually receive them within 10 days.

Frustrating when they are late  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on October 12, 2007, 07:27:47 AM
syzygymusic

Ordered The Pilgrim's Progress from them nearly a month ago, still haven't received it. They ship from the UK, but that's no excuse unless the postal workers have decided to go on strike! I haven't even received a notification of shipment. I won't be ordering from them again. They have a pretty high rating on Amazon, though.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: marvinbrown on October 12, 2007, 07:45:57 AM
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on October 11, 2007, 06:00:51 PM
I had a disc turn up today which was shipped from the US on 18th Sept!

I usually receive them within 10 days.

Frustrating when they are late  :)


  SW and George, just be grateful the two of you do not live in the UK.  Here we have experienced a postal strike (Tues, Wed) which have held up my opera DVD purchases from market_plus (an excellent amazon seller, UK based) which have dispatched my orders on October 6, 2007  :o by first class post which should have arrived the next day Oct.7!!  If any of you are ordering from UK based amazon sellers, beware more strikes are expected next week!!!

  marvin
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on October 12, 2007, 07:46:49 AM
Quote from: marvinbrown on October 12, 2007, 07:45:57 AM

  SW and George, just be grateful the two of you do not live in the UK.  Here we have experienced a postal strike (Tues, Wed) which have held up my opera DVD purchases from market_plus (an excellent amazon seller, UK based) which have dispatched my orders on October 6, 2007  :o by first class post which should have arrived the next day Oct.7!!  If any of you are ordering from UK based amazon sellers, beware more strikes are expected next week!!!

  marvin

That would explain my order.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: marvinbrown on October 12, 2007, 07:55:56 AM
Quote from: Corey on October 12, 2007, 07:46:49 AM
That would explain my order.

  Yes Corey it is quite bad, they have an accumulating "backlog" of post...they are only hurting us.  I am having to resort to the internet to do my business correspondence, I even had to hand deliver a check to a supplier because I feared it may never get there on time  :(.

  marvin
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on October 12, 2007, 07:59:35 AM
Well, I won't cancel my order. The seller probably has a lot of problems already. Something like that could easily put a seller out of business.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Lethevich on October 15, 2007, 02:07:16 PM
(This is for UK Amazon) - I recently did a large order from multiple marketplace sellers, and despite postal strikes and all sorts of nonsense, the four ones I ordered from media_moguls-uk arrived very promptly.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: marvinbrown on October 15, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: Lethe on October 15, 2007, 02:07:16 PM
(This is for UK Amazon) - I recently did a large order from multiple marketplace sellers, and despite postal strikes and all sorts of nonsense, the four ones I ordered from media_moguls-uk arrived very promptly.

  Congratulations I wish I had your luck.  One of my orders placed with market_plus (a UK based seller that dispatches from the UK) on October 6 which was sent first class post arrived today October 15  :o  I'd hardly call that First Class postage service.  The second order which was also dispatched First Class Postage on Oct. 6 has yet to arrive  >:(.  On a business note at work we are receiving letters with dates ranging from Oct 4-Oct.9 all sent first class post today.  Sadly I have lost a fair amount of confidence with the Royal Mail postal service and have no intention of ordering anything on-line until this mess gets resolved.

  marvin   
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Lethevich on October 15, 2007, 02:33:13 PM
Quote from: marvinbrown on October 15, 2007, 02:30:33 PM
  Congratulations I wish I had your luck.  One of my orders placed with market_plus (a UK based seller that dispatches from the UK) on October 6 which was sent first class post arrived today October 15  :o  I'd hardly call that First Class postage service.  The second order which was also dispatched First Class Postage on Oct. 6 has yet to arrive  >:(.  On a business note at work we are receiving letters with dates ranging from Oct 4-Oct.9 all sent first class post today.  Sadly I have lost a fair amount of confidence with the Royal Mail postal service and have no intention of ordering anything on-line until this mess gets resolved.

  marvin   

The RM is a mess anyway I think - I don't think it was even capable of making a profit until a year or two ago. A prime example of something that should probably not have been privatised.

Sorry to hear about your postal woes - but still, think of the money you will have saved when they do arrive :P I probably saved £25+ on the four I bought, over the usual Amazon price.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: marvinbrown on October 15, 2007, 02:46:54 PM
Quote from: Lethe on October 15, 2007, 02:33:13 PM

Sorry to hear about your postal woes - but still, think of the money you will have saved when they do arrive :P I probably saved £25+ on the four I bought, over the usual Amazon price.

  Lethe what did you buy? 

Today I received Solti's Die Frau Ohne Schatten (R. Strauss) DVD, you know the one you recommended.  I am still waiting for the Levine MET Ariadne auf Naxos DVD with Jessye Norman-Guess its going to be a R. Strauss week next week.

marvin
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Lethevich on October 15, 2007, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: marvinbrown on October 15, 2007, 02:46:54 PM
Lethe what did you buy? 

Puccini - Il trittico (Gavazzeni, La Scala)
Puccini - La bohème (Cotrubas, Shicoff, Zschau, Allen, ROH)
Britten - A Midsummer Night's Dream (Haitink, LPO, Glyndebourne)
Britten - Peter Grimes (Vickers, Harper, Bailey, C. Davis, ROH)

All on NVC Arts/Warner. I had read good things about the latter three, the first is a gamble.

Quote from: marvinbrown on October 15, 2007, 02:46:54 PM
Today I received Solti's Die Frau Ohne Schatten (R. Strauss) DVD, you know the one you recommended.  I am still waiting for the Levine MET Ariadne auf Naxos DVD with Jessye Norman-Guess its going to be a R. Strauss week next week.

I bought both those at the same time as well :) The Ariadne auf Naxos production is also good, although I'm not so sure about the piece itself - I recall having a big problem with the very long monologue sung by Norman's character on the deserted island (possibly scene 2).

Edit: And having just watched Grimes, wow, more or less lived up to my highest hopes.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on October 15, 2007, 03:19:28 PM
Quote from: George on October 11, 2007, 05:51:10 PM
Anyone heard of the amazon seller "Cheap_CDs?"

I have been waiting a very long time and they won't return my emails.

??? >:( :( :-\ :'(

I finally got a direct email address for the above seller and they wrote back, saying that the CD set is on back order. Why must these idiot sellers post stuff they don't even have?

   
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on October 16, 2007, 05:10:45 AM
Quote from: George on October 15, 2007, 03:19:28 PM
I finally got a direct email address for the above seller and they wrote back, saying that the CD set is on back order. Why must these idiot sellers post stuff they don't even have?

   

I ordered a disc of Martinů songs from them without looking at this thread. :( Should I go ahead and cancel it now and get my money back?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on October 16, 2007, 05:25:33 AM
Quote from: Corey on October 16, 2007, 05:10:45 AM
I ordered a disc of Martinů songs from them without looking at this thread. :( Should I go ahead and cancel it now and get my money back?

Well, from reading their feedback, it looks like they are like caiman, either they have it and you get it quick, or they don't and they wait for you to cancel. The hard part is getting in touch with them. I suggest using their direct email and including your order number. Their direct email address is email@cheap-cds.com. 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on October 16, 2007, 05:39:12 AM
Quote from: George on October 16, 2007, 05:25:33 AM
Well, from reading their feedback, it looks like they are like caiman, either they have it and you get it quick, or they don't and they wait for you to cancel. The hard part is getting in touch with them. I suggest using their direct email and including your order number. Their direct email address is email@cheap-cds.com. 

Thanks, I will do that if it takes much longer. I ordered it only a week ago, but most sellers give you a notification of shipment about two days after you order it. Isn't that the limit as per the seller agreement anyway?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on October 16, 2007, 05:42:58 AM
Quote from: Corey on October 16, 2007, 05:39:12 AM
Thanks, I will do that if it takes much longer. I ordered it only a week ago, but most sellers give you a notification of shipment about two days after you order it. Isn't that the limit as per the seller agreement anyway?

I think the agreement is that they ship in 2 days, but many sellers don't send you an email confirmation confirming this.  :-\
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kullervo on October 20, 2007, 04:00:18 PM
Just got the disc of Martinů songs from Cheap_CDs, finally!
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: marvinbrown on October 20, 2007, 04:19:40 PM
Quote from: Corey on October 20, 2007, 04:00:18 PM
Just got the disc of Martinů songs from Cheap_CDs, finally!

  Yes and my Ariadne auf Naxos DVD recording which was dispatched from a UK based amazon marketplace seller on Oct.6 (allegedly first class postage  ::)) arrived on Oct.18.......better late than never I guess  :-\.

  marvin
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Novi on October 21, 2007, 01:48:41 AM
Meh, still waiting on 9 CDs ordered variously between 2 and 3 weeks ago, some from UK sellers as well. Whereas the CD I ordered on the 15th arrived a couple of days later.

*grumble, grumble*
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Lethevich on October 21, 2007, 02:42:26 AM
Some Caiman CDs I ordered (UK Amazon again) came very promptly, considering it was international mail. I did make a point to only order new releases from them, though.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Grazioso on October 21, 2007, 04:25:30 AM
I agree with the recommendations in the OP, especially Newbury Comics, who have been consistently outstanding in every regard. I quit using Caiman after some bad experiences with them (horrible communication, listing items they don't actually have, etc.).
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Great Gable on October 22, 2007, 03:37:32 AM
My problem with Caiman, and the reason I will no longer use them, is when there is a problem with an order. I have sent them several e-mails over the last 3 or 4 years and not once have they replied.
There are plenty of others I now use:

ch____marche24
direct-offers
importcds.com (USA)
market_plus (UK)
selectcheaper
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on October 22, 2007, 05:10:26 AM
Quote from: Great Gable on October 22, 2007, 03:37:32 AM
My problem with Caiman, and the reason I will no longer use them, is when there is a problem with an order. I have sent them several e-mails over the last 3 or 4 years and not once have they replied.
There are plenty of others I now use:

ch____marche24
direct-offers
importcds.com (USA)
market_plus (UK)
selectcheaper


Thanks I'll update these later.  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on June 21, 2008, 02:45:22 AM
Had some trouble with Market Place seller importscd-com. They did send me the wrong item and did not respond to THREE emails I sent about it. So I had no other option left than to invoke the Amazon money-back-guarantuee, and then suddenly importscd-com refunded my money...

Definitely one to avoid IMO.

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: mn dave on June 21, 2008, 04:48:03 AM
Quote from: Que on June 21, 2008, 02:45:22 AM
Had some trouble with Market Place seller importscd-com. They did send me the wrong item and did not respond to THREE emails I sent about it. So I had no other option left than to invoke the Amazon money-back-guarantuee, and then suddenly importscd-com refunded my money...

Definitely one to avoid IMO.

Q

I ordered from them once and it went fine FWIW.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: marvinbrown on June 21, 2008, 08:25:33 AM
Quote from: Que on June 21, 2008, 02:45:22 AM
Had some trouble with Market Place seller importscd-com. They did send me the wrong item and did not respond to THREE emails I sent about it. So I had no other option left than to invoke the Amazon money-back-guarantuee, and then suddenly importscd-com refunded my money...

Definitely one to avoid IMO.

Q

  I use importcds-uk often and have no problem with them whatsoever.  I presume they are related to importscd-com?? I could be mistaken here.

  marvin
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Que on June 21, 2008, 08:54:56 AM
Quote from: marvinbrown on June 21, 2008, 08:25:33 AM
  I use importcds-uk often and have no problem with them whatsoever.  I presume they are related to importscd-com?? I could be mistaken here.

  marvin

I suppose they are related. And perhaps this indeed was a incidental faux pax. But I find it hard to believe they accidentally ignored three emails (sent via Amazon), sent each time several days apart.

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on June 21, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: Que on June 21, 2008, 02:45:22 AM
Had some trouble with Market Place seller importscd-com. They did send me the wrong item and did not respond to THREE emails I sent about it. So I had no other option left than to invoke the Amazon money-back-guarantuee, and then suddenly importscd-com refunded my money...

Definitely one to avoid IMO.

Q

This was the same outfit who "sold" me the Complete Czech / Kletzki box set, and then 2 weeks later dropped me a line saying "sorry, we didn't really have that". Bastards  >:(

8)

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: scarpia on June 21, 2008, 09:52:42 AM

I've ordered perhaps a dozen things from them.  One time they sent the wrong thing, I mailed it back and they credited me immediately.   Their service may be imperfect, but they are often the cheapest alternative.

Quote from: Que on June 21, 2008, 02:45:22 AM
Had some trouble with Market Place seller importscd-com. They did send me the wrong item and did not respond to THREE emails I sent about it. So I had no other option left than to invoke the Amazon money-back-guarantuee, and then suddenly importscd-com refunded my money...

Definitely one to avoid IMO.

Q
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidRoss on June 21, 2008, 10:06:53 AM
I'm disgruntled with sellers who do not disclose the true nature of their offerings.  I've had sellers send record club editions that were not described as such, and one of my last purchases was of a disc advertised as new that was actually a cutout.  Yes, it was new, but that it's a cutout makes a big difference in the price I'm willing to pay. 

Live and learn.  That's a seller I won't be doing business with again.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: M forever on June 21, 2008, 02:19:04 PM
I always save the descriptions and if they are not accurate, I contact the seller and demand a partial refund. Or to take it back when it is in really bad shape. Which only happened once or twice that I can recall though. In the vast majority of cases, the sellers do try to make up. If not, then I hit them with maximum negative feedback. That actually triggers reactions in most cases. It's not like the sellers are sitting there and trying to come up with misleading descriptions. They probably have some minmum wage dude sitting in the basement all day long, looking at the items and classifying them according to a few pre-written texts.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on June 21, 2008, 02:38:42 PM
I had one experience where the item sent me was other than (though related to) the product on the amazon page from which I'd purchased it.  The seller responded not only promptly, but volunteered a partial refund on his own.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: M forever on June 21, 2008, 02:51:36 PM
I had that happen once or twice, too, with cheap used CDs. Once I ordered Beethoven's 9th (don't remember which one) and got Dohnányi's which wasn't the one I ordered but since the seller offered a full refund and to let me keep it, I kept it  :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Lethevich on June 22, 2008, 03:58:05 PM
The only problem I've had with an Amazon marketplace CD in condition not as described was with a 1p cheapie, so I had no alternative but to give them negative feedback as a refund wasn't an option :'( Other than that, it's been hunky-dory :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on June 22, 2008, 04:07:57 PM
Is there anyway to check on the sellers description after you've received the cd?

I've just received a very tatty used cd  :(
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Lethevich on June 22, 2008, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on June 22, 2008, 04:07:57 PM
Is there anyway to check on the sellers description after you've received the cd?

I've just received a very tatty used cd  :(

Yeah - go to the Marketplace column on the bottom right of the Your Account screen and click zShops & Auctions Order History. Click search, then click Listing ID.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on June 22, 2008, 04:31:57 PM
Quote from: Lethe on June 22, 2008, 04:18:06 PM
Yeah - go to the Marketplace column on the bottom right of the Your Account screen and click zShops & Auctions Order History. Click search, then click Listing ID.

Yep, thats worked thanks  :)

Strange thing is, the item I'm looking for isn't in my list and the ID number is odd looking [compared to the ones in the list]  ???
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Solitary Wanderer on June 22, 2008, 05:18:00 PM
Very odd.

I've displayed my last 160 transactions since January 08 and they all have an ID # starting with 058.

Except for the one I'm looking for which starts with 002 ??

I've tried the seller email address and the item title but nothing come up.

Must be a rogue one...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: M forever on June 22, 2008, 05:55:25 PM
That's why M always saves the page with the description as web archive (single file) .mht before clicking on the buy button  $:)

M saves all these in one directory named "amazon purchases" and when the item arrives, M checks it, compares it to the description and if accurate, leaves good feedback. If not, then M contacts the seller and complains (see above). Then M moves the mht file into a subdirectory called "complaints" where it stays until the complaint is resolved. Inspecting the item and leaving feedback immediately and, if there were no problems or the problems have been corrected, deleting the mht file is also a good way to keep track of what has already arrived, what you are waiting for, what you had the reson to complain about. Very practical if you order a lot of stuff in one batch (which M doesn't really do anymore at this time though).
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on July 08, 2008, 03:58:12 PM
As for amazon sellers to not be reckoned with, I nominate valuecd.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 08, 2008, 06:23:36 PM
I just placed an order with a seller that goes by the name of Smogtown. Only time will tell whether they get a thumbs up or down...

I see we have dueling avatars again, George. :)


Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on July 08, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: donwyn on July 08, 2008, 06:23:36 PM
I just placed an order with a seller that goes by the name of Smogtown. Only time will tell whether they get a thumbs up or down...

I see we have dueling avatars again, George. :)

I see, light VS darkness.  8)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on July 08, 2008, 07:36:50 PM
Quote from: George on July 08, 2008, 07:25:21 PM
I see, light VS darkness.  8)

;)



Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: 71 dB on July 29, 2008, 04:12:33 PM
I don't use US Amazon much due to the outrageous shipping costs but now I used because the item was cheap. Well, the CD arrived and I just leaved seller feedback. Turned out the new feedback interface of US Amazon does not work with Opera 9.51 browser. I had to use Firefox.

UK Amazon works fine with Opera.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on August 05, 2008, 10:39:09 AM
CDBARON is another amazon seller that goes on my shit list. I asked them for shipping info on multiple CDs and they tripled their price. I wrote them back saying that greed cost them the sale and that I would be sharing this info with others. 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on August 05, 2008, 10:40:53 AM
Update


Recommended:

Newbury Comics- IMO and many others the best seller on Amazon: fast delivery and great customer service!
Russian DVD.com - Excellent customer service and hard to find Russian titles.
archiv- Great reputation, fast delivery.
Wherehouse
Alphacraze
Music Express
Music_Media
ImportCds
movie mars
spun-dot-com
ruslania.com
ch____marche24
direct-offers
market_plus (UK)
selectcheaper



Avoid:

CDepot
Secondhandtunes
digital_eyes
Cheap_CDs
CDBARON
valuecd




Questionable:

hermanstreet - Has a good rating, but they often post things that they don't even have. When that's the case, they don't communicate that to the customer, as their customer service isn't poor, its nonexistent.
Direct Offers - Similar issues as hermanstreet.
caiman- I have had good experiences with this seller but like hermanstreet, they post things they don't even have. They have low prices, but its a gamble.
gohastings- I've read more complaints about this one than any other, though some people have had good experiences with them.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Philoctetes on August 05, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
I'll give some favorable pop to caiman. I adore working with them.

And some thumbs down to gohastings.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: SonicMan46 on August 05, 2008, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: Philoctetes on August 05, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
I'll give some favorable pop to caiman. I adore working with them.


So far, I'd have to agree on the above Caiman assessment - I've ordered dozens of CDs from them (nearly always pick the 'new' offerings) - can't remember having any not in stock or excessively delayed in their shipment - guess I've been lucky -  :D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Philoctetes on August 05, 2008, 10:48:29 AM
Quote from: SonicMan on August 05, 2008, 10:47:41 AM
So far, I'd have to agree on the above Caiman assessment - I've ordered dozens of CDs from them (nearly always pick the 'new' offerings) - can't remember having any not in stock or excessively delayed in their shipment - guess I've been lucky -  :D

And I've always picked from their cheap, probably less stocked, items, and I've not had one problem.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on August 05, 2008, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: donwyn on July 08, 2008, 06:23:36 PM
I just placed an order with a seller that goes by the name of Smogtown. Only time will tell whether they get a thumbs up or down...

I'm happy to report my experience with Smogtown ended happily. And delivery was pretty quick.



Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on August 05, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: SonicMan on August 05, 2008, 10:47:41 AM
So far, I'd have to agree on the above Caiman assessment - I've ordered dozens of CDs from them (nearly always pick the 'new' offerings) - can't remember having any not in stock or excessively delayed in their shipment - guess I've been lucky -  :D

Yeah, with Caiman I've found that when sticking with what's current and/or VERY recently OOP they're quite dependable.

But experience has taught me never to trust them again with something rare or relatively obscure. That's when their habit of listing items they don't have can do the most harm. Especially when a competitor lists the same item concurrently. In the past I've gone with Caiman even though a competitor had an identical item for practically the same price and I've been burned. So I get stuck with nothing since Caiman didn't really have the item while someone else gets the prize. Very frustrating!!

Now, if Caiman's the only one listing a rare item, sure, I'll go for it. Nothing to lose in that case.


Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on August 05, 2008, 05:31:01 PM
Of course, I'm a big Newbury Comics fan, but a couple of other sellers that I have recently had very good experience with are cddvd4u and Boston Computer. I admit, the name scared me off at first (Boston Computer? ::) NO, the other one!), but I have got 4 disks in the last couple of months, all less than mainstream, and shipping, pricing, communication etc. were first rate. :)

8)




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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on February 04, 2009, 01:40:32 PM
Update


Recommended:

Newbury Comics- IMO and many others the best seller on Amazon: fast delivery and great customer service!
Russian DVD.com - Excellent customer service and hard to find Russian titles.
archiv- Great reputation, fast delivery.
Wherehouse
Alphacraze
Music Express
Music_Media
ImportCds
movie mars
spun-dot-com
ruslania.com
ch____marche24
direct-offers
market_plus (UK)
selectcheaper
cddvd4u
Boston Computer
Smogtown



Avoid:

CDepot
Secondhandtunes
digital_eyes
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Questionable:

hermanstreet - Has a good rating, but they often post things that they don't even have. When that's the case, they don't communicate that to the customer, as their customer service isn't poor, its nonexistent.
Direct Offers - Similar issues as hermanstreet.
caiman- For in print items, many of us have had good experiences with this seller but like hermanstreet, they post things they don't even have, usually OOP stuff. They have low prices, but its a gamble on OOP stuff.
gohastings- I've read more complaints about this one than any other, though some people have had good experiences with them.


Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: haydnguy on February 04, 2009, 03:11:45 PM
Could someone tell me the best way to get to these Marketplace sellers to browse at their offerings?  Thanks.....
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on February 04, 2009, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: BaxMan on February 04, 2009, 03:11:45 PM
Could someone tell me the best way to get to these Marketplace sellers to browse at their offerings?  Thanks.....

Go to amazon, type the name of the seller and then a blank space and "store."

EX - "newbury comics store"
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: haydnguy on February 04, 2009, 03:23:08 PM
Thanks a lot George! I've wondered how to do that for a long time. :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on February 04, 2009, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: BaxMan on February 04, 2009, 03:23:08 PM
Thanks a lot George! I've wondered how to do that for a long time. :)

I actually just went over there and tried a few different searches and came up with it. Looks like you can't separate by classical only though.

I usually go the other way around, choosing the product that I want and finding the best seller for the least money. That's why I started this thread.

These days I just browse my bulging Wish List. It's now 13 pages long!!  :o
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: haydnguy on February 04, 2009, 03:29:41 PM
hmmm....doesn't seem to be working. Do I need to search in a particular department??
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: haydnguy on February 04, 2009, 03:30:54 PM
That's what I do to. I thought there might be an easy way just to bounce from one to another easily. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on February 04, 2009, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: BaxMan on February 04, 2009, 03:29:41 PM
hmmm....doesn't seem to be working. Do I need to search in a particular department??

Sorry, it's not working for me now either.

The other way is to pick a very popular CD, like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Ludwig-van-Beethoven-9-Symphonien/dp/B000001GBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1233794026&sr=8-1

Click on "used and new"

click on the store name

click on storefront

if the seller is small enough, you can browse.

Sorry this is the best I can figure out.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: haydnguy on February 04, 2009, 03:56:09 PM
That should work! Thanks.  8)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on February 04, 2009, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: BaxMan on February 04, 2009, 03:56:09 PM
That should work! Thanks.  8)

I notice that it doesn't work for the bigger sellers.  :-\
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: haydnguy on February 04, 2009, 04:17:10 PM
Like you said, there isn't a way you can browse, say, for just classical music in newbury comics so I guess that's not the best way.

(I guess Amazon doesn't want to make it TOO easy!)  :-X   ;D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on February 04, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
Quote from: BaxMan on February 04, 2009, 04:17:10 PM
Like you said, there isn't a way you can browse, say, for just classical music in newbury comics so I guess that's not the best way.

(I guess Amazon doesn't want to make it TOO easy!)  :-X   ;D

Good point.

I'd be upset if I used amazon in this manner, but I always search by product so I don't have an issue with it.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on February 06, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: George on February 04, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
Good point.

I'd be upset if I used amazon in this manner, but I always search by product so I don't have an issue with it.

Among the MarketPlace vendors, I think ImportCD has just about the best selections and usually the best prices.  Newbury Comics also has some of the best prices, though its selections are not as comprehensive as ImportCD's.  Amazon's prices generally are nothing to write home about unless when it runs its occasional promotions such as that 80-CD Glenn Gould set that I paid $109 with free shipping.  I paid a great price for the Wagner Ring cycle by Karl Bohm at Newbury Comics last year.  Last I checked, it also had the Karajan's Wagner Ring at a price that is cheaper than is available at MDT.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on April 14, 2009, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: nicht schleppend on April 14, 2009, 06:36:58 AM
I am still waiting for an order I placed with Caiman nine days ago. It's not that long, but I know others have received at least one of the discs I ordered. My order is still "being processed," which is what it's said since the day after I placed the order.

I am still avoiding Caiman.  There are enough good MP vendors out there.  I have had excellent experience with these vendors: ImportCD, Newbury Comics, Beach Entertainments and classical_music_superstore.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Szykneij on April 14, 2009, 05:19:04 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on April 14, 2009, 04:53:42 PM
I am still avoiding Caiman.  There are enough good MP vendors out there.  I have had excellent experience with these vendors: ImportCD, Newbury Comics, Beach Entertainments and classical_music_superstore.

My one experience with Caiman was unsatisfactory so I never dealt with them again. I ordered a Vivaldi Four Seasons CD because I needed a recording of the piece it was coupled with. Caiman sent me a different Seasons CD by a different orchestra and without the piece I wanted. They never responded to my e-mails notifying them of the problem.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: nut-job on April 14, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on April 14, 2009, 04:53:42 PM
I am still avoiding Caiman.  There are enough good MP vendors out there.  I have had excellent experience with these vendors: ImportCD, Newbury Comics, Beach Entertainments and classical_music_superstore.

I have used all of those, but twice had problems with ImportCD.  On two occasions I ordered DVDs which were explicitly listed as NTSC and received PAL DVDs.  On both occasions I returned the item and received a refund, but I lost time and the cost of mailing the thing back.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on April 14, 2009, 05:30:33 PM
Quote from: nut-job on April 14, 2009, 02:47:02 PM
Yes, they are greedy financial wizards.  They pad their pockets by pretending their distributor doesn't have things.   ::)

I sometimes wonder if any of these e-tailers actually place the orders with their distributors only after they have received the orders.  After all, keeping everything in stock all the time is expensive ...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on April 14, 2009, 05:43:49 PM
Quote from: nut-job on April 14, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
I have used all of those, but twice had problems with ImportCD.  On two occasions I ordered DVDs which were explicitly listed as NTSC and received PAL DVDs.  On both occasions I returned the item and received a refund, but I lost time and the cost of mailing the thing back.



If it were not for the lousy USPS, my experience with ImportCD would have been nearly perfect.  I once received two box sets, each in its own fatboy jewel case, both cases were crushed though the CD's survived intact ... 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: SonicMan46 on April 15, 2009, 03:32:47 PM
Boy, the Amazon Marketplace sounds like a 'crap shoot' -  ;D

I've used most of the places preferred already, but must say that Caiman seems to have some of the best prices and has a lot to offer (regardless of whether 'in stock', unlikely, or sent for as ordered by customers) - I have used Caiman dozens of times and have had absolutely no problems w/ them (one exception which was a mis-directed order to the wrong customer) - I know others have had poor experiences, but maybe I've just been a lucky one?   :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: nut-job on April 15, 2009, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: SonicMan on April 15, 2009, 03:32:47 PM
Boy, the Amazon Marketplace sounds like a 'crap shoot' -  ;D

I've used most of the places preferred already, but must say that Caiman seems to have some of the best prices and has a lot to offer (regardless of whether 'in stock', unlikely, or sent for as ordered by customers) - I have used Caiman dozens of times and have had absolutely no problems w/ them (one exception which was a mis-directed order to the wrong customer) - I know others have had poor experiences, but maybe I've just been a lucky one?   :)

Well, one I ordered from Caiman (through their "tower records" site) last week and which seemed to be in stock hasn't shipped yet and now reports backorder on the site.  I could cancel the order, but the price is 10 bucks higher on every other site I've seen so far.  I'm sticking.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on April 15, 2009, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: nut-job on April 15, 2009, 03:45:12 PM
Well, one I ordered from Caiman (through their "tower records" site) last week and which seemed to be in stock hasn't shipped yet and now reports backorder on the site.  I could cancel the order, but the price is 10 bucks higher on every other site I've seen so far.  I'm sticking.


I had the same issue with the Tower site myself, it happened at the same time as the order with MDT that I described in the MDT thread. This had never happened to me before with any seller on any site. My CD was $12.99 and this is at least $10 less than everyone. I'm waiting mine out too.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on April 15, 2009, 05:21:57 PM
I continue to buy from selected AM vendors.  While I have placed some 20 orders with MDT since late last year, MDT does not uniformly have the best prices on all labels.   
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Jay F on April 15, 2009, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: George on April 15, 2009, 05:02:42 PM
I had the same issue with the Tower site myself, it happened at the same time as the order with MDT that I described in the MDT thread. This had never happened to me before with any seller on any site. My CD was $12.99 and this is at least $10 less than everyone. I'm waiting mine out too.
PET SOUNDS or THE BAND?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on April 16, 2009, 02:49:32 AM
Quote from: Coopmv on April 15, 2009, 05:21:57 PM
I continue to buy from selected AM vendors.  

Me too, that continues to be the first place I look for CDs.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Benji on April 16, 2009, 12:53:39 PM
I've waited months and months for Caiman to back-order, being the stubborn thing I am. Eventually the thought of them accruing interest on my money (fractions of pennies or not, it's the principle of it!) got the better of me and I cancelled. Better to order at a higher price, see if you like it and if not flog it to some other punter on eBay!  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Benji on April 16, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Quote from: George on April 16, 2009, 02:49:32 AM
Me too, that continues to be the first place I look for CDs.

Same here. I love buying from Marketplace for all the good as new bargains, though I buy many more books than CDs. I love getting books for the nominal price of a penny.  8)  Cheap prices + sense of smugness from recycling used goods = joy.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on April 16, 2009, 03:19:26 PM
Quote from: Benji on April 16, 2009, 12:57:25 PM
Cheap prices + sense of smugness from recycling used goods = joy.

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidRoss on April 16, 2009, 03:40:10 PM
Ack!  3 of the last 4 marketplace sellers I bought from sent RECORD CLUB issues!  This is not acceptable.  They need to identify those things clearly.  If in mint condition and otherwise hard to come by I might pay $2 for one, but not more.  I learned long ago that I couldn't trust sellers there for DVDs, but now it's getting so that I'm afraid to buy classical CDs as well.  Anyone else experiencing this?  Or have I just had a run of bad luck?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidRoss on April 16, 2009, 04:31:31 PM
If I were going off the deep end in real life I know that my friends would give me shit about it and tease me back into sanity--and if I couldn't take the hint, one or two would probably take me aside for a "come to Jesus" talk.  I'd like to think that my virtual friends feel comfortable enough to do the same.  But I'm just an educated country boy who's spent half his life around farmers, truckers, construction workers, etc., and we might do things a bit differently out here.

Go ahead and make jokes about buying BMG issues.  It won't hurt my feelings and if they're funny I'll enjoy the laugh.  8)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Szykneij on April 16, 2009, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: DavidRoss on April 16, 2009, 03:40:10 PM
Ack!  3 of the last 4 marketplace sellers I bought from sent RECORD CLUB issues!  This is not acceptable.

What makes Record Club issues less desirable?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: nut-job on April 16, 2009, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: Szykniej on April 16, 2009, 05:32:04 PM
What makes Record Club issues less desirable?

They have an awkward looking logo on them somewhere, and their resale value is somewhat less because of people like DR who prefer not to have them.  They are normally manufactured by the original label, so the disc and music it contains is itself is for all practical purposes identical.

When I get one on Marketplace I am normally irritated that it wasn't mentioned by the seller (it never is) but I usually don't make an issue of it.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Jay F on April 16, 2009, 06:31:55 PM
Quote from: DavidRoss on April 16, 2009, 03:40:10 PM
Ack!  3 of the last 4 marketplace sellers I bought from sent RECORD CLUB issues!  This is not acceptable.  They need to identify those things clearly.  If in mint condition and otherwise hard to come by I might pay $2 for one, but not more.  I learned long ago that I couldn't trust sellers there for DVDs, but now it's getting so that I'm afraid to buy classical CDs as well.  Anyone else experiencing this?  Or have I just had a run of bad luck?

I've gotten record club issues on a number of occasions lately (past year or so) when the seller failed to mention it. At some point, however, I noticed that I'd stopped noticing. As long as the disc plays through, and the sound quality is good, I don't care the way I used to about club copies. Yes, it would be nice if people would indicate "bmgmusic.com club edition" -- I always do when I'm selling one -- but I'm not that bothered by it anymore.

Sometimes used CDs smell--usually the booklets--and that bothers me more than getting an unanticipated bmgmusic.com edition. And, ugh, rotten foam inserts from really old discs are another thing I hate. Those I return if the schmutzification of the disc is too egregious, although twice the seller told me just to keep it and offered me a refund. That's what I do when I'm unhappy with a used CD or LP, arrange for some kind of refund, partial or total.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on April 16, 2009, 06:53:32 PM
Quote from: nicht schleppend on April 16, 2009, 06:31:55 PM
I've gotten record club issues on a number of occasions lately (past year or so) when the seller failed to mention it. At some point, however, I noticed that I'd stopped noticing. As long as the disc plays through, and the sound quality is good, I don't care the way I used to about club copies. Yes, it would be nice if people would indicate "bmgmusic.com club edition" -- I always do when I'm selling one -- but I'm not that bothered by it anymore.


So some e-tailers actually sell Music-Club CD's?  I have always been under the impression Music-Club CD's are only for individual retail customers ...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Jay F on April 16, 2009, 07:17:33 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on April 16, 2009, 06:53:32 PM


So some e-tailers actually sell Music-Club CD's?  I have always been under the impression Music-Club CD's are only for individual retail customers ...
I'm just talking about people selling used CDs on Amazon Marketplace. importcds.com and mdt aren't going to send you a bmg copy.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on April 16, 2009, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: nicht schleppend on April 16, 2009, 07:17:33 PM
I'm just talking about people selling used CDs on Amazon Marketplace. importcds.com and mdt aren't going to send you a bmg copy.

Indeed, I have noticed some individuals selling on Amazon MP.  I generally avoid those vendors.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Jay F on April 16, 2009, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on April 16, 2009, 07:22:01 PM


Indeed, I have noticed some individuals selling on Amazon MP.  I generally avoid those vendors.
You shouldn't. Sometimes you can get things that way that are just what you're looking for, at not a bad price. When you were curious about the Bach/Schiff box set, I looked through amazon for one of the old ones on AMP, but there weren't any.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 06:37:18 AM
I'm just curious here, so no big deal.

I wonder what the business model is for certain vendors on the Marketplace. As an example, look for almost any Classical disk and then go to the "Used" tab and look at what's available. There will often be 15-20 disks under $10, then a few in the regular retail price range (under $20). And then, the mystery (to me). There are a few vendors there, like "Any-Book" and "Woody's Books" and a couple of others that have the same disk, used, for anywhere from $40 to $100! What's that all about? Do they actually sell these? Do they even intend to sell them? ???

I've written to both of those companies and got no reply from either, but I can't imagine that I'm the only one that has been curious enough to do that. Has anyone even figured that out? If so, share the wisdom with me. I can see when they have the only copy out there, but when 30 people have one to sell, starting at $3, I'm just puzzled. :-\  :)

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on September 17, 2010, 06:45:43 AM
I'm sure I cannot resolve that puzzle, Gurn.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 06:37:18 AM
I'm just curious here, so no big deal.

I wonder what the business model is for certain vendors on the Marketplace. As an example, look for almost any Classical disk and then go to the "Used" tab and look at what's available. There will often be 15-20 disks under $10, then a few in the regular retail price range (under $20). And then, the mystery (to me). There are a few vendors there, like "Any-Book" and "Woody's Books" and a couple of others that have the same disk, used, for anywhere from $40 to $100! What's that all about? Do they actually sell these? Do they even intend to sell them? ???

I've written to both of those companies and got no reply from either, but I can't imagine that I'm the only one that has been curious enough to do that. Has anyone even figured that out? If so, share the wisdom with me. I can see when they have the only copy out there, but when 30 people have one to sell, starting at $3, I'm just puzzled. :-\  :)

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Presumably they list everything at a high price by default and pray for the day when all other copies sell out and they are the sole alternative.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on September 17, 2010, 07:01:19 AM
There's a single CD which, in a perfect world, I should like to listen to.  The "used and new" copies start at $59.99;  and simply put, there isn't a CD in the world I should pay that much for.

But I know that there are many out there who think otherwise.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:14:00 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 06:50:37 AM
Presumably they list everything at a high price by default and pray for the day when all other copies sell out and they are the sole alternative.

Well, that is what I figured, I was just hoping I was wrong. It just seems so wrong-headed to me somehow...  :-\

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2010, 07:01:19 AM
There's a single CD which, in a perfect world, I should like to listen to.  The "used and new" copies start at $59.99;  and simply put, there isn't a CD in the world I should pay that much for.

But I know that there are many out there who think otherwise.


As you say. I have paid as much as $35, but it took a significant amount of soul-searching before I could bring myself to press the button. I have seen disks priced at $200 disappear within a day though. Somehow that just seems OTT in terms of collector mania.   0:)

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:14:41 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2010, 07:01:19 AM
There's a single CD which, in a perfect world, I should like to listen to.  The "used and new" copies start at $59.99;  and simply put, there isn't a CD in the world I should pay that much for.

But I know that there are many out there who think otherwise.


What is it?

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 07:24:38 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:14:00 AM
Well, that is what I figured, I was just hoping I was wrong. It just seems so wrong-headed to me somehow...  :-\

Amazon marketplace has no listing fee, so there is no disincentive for this strategy, except for the time taken to list the items.  What surprises me more very cheap listings on ebay.  ebay does have a listing fee and people sell CDs for $0.01.  I recently got one for $1.00.  I guess they make a slim profit if the shipping fee exceeds the actual shipping cost, but it strikes me as a tiring way to make a buck.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on September 17, 2010, 07:26:22 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:14:00 AM
As you say. I have paid as much as $35, but it took a significant amount of soul-searching before I could bring myself to press the button. I have seen disks priced at $200 disappear within a day though. Somehow that just seems OTT in terms of collector mania.   0:)

I wonder what the most I've paid for a single CD is? $35 is probably more than that, but it's a sum which does not necessarily strike me as madness ; )

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:14:41 AM
What is it?

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Hah! Actually an album of which a chap I knew in Charlottesville once gave me a cassette: The Holy Modal Rounders, Alleged in Their Own Time
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:31:39 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 07:24:38 AM
Amazon marketplace has no listing fee, so there is no disincentive for this strategy, except for the time taken to list the items.  What surprises me more very cheap listings on ebay.  ebay does have a listing fee and people sell CDs for $0.01.  I recently got one for $1.00.  I guess they make a slim profit if the shipping fee exceeds the actual shipping cost, but it strikes me as a tiring way to make a buck.

Yes, I agree with that. I got a disk just yesterday that I have seen selling for $30. The seller started it at $5, hoping it would spark a biding frenzy, I assume. Well, I bid $15, but since no one else bid on it, I got it for $5. I was pleased... :)  In point of fact, this has happened for me dozens of times, far outnumbering the times when I was overbid at the high end.

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:33:02 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 17, 2010, 07:26:22 AM
I wonder what the most I've paid for a single CD is? $35 is probably more than that, but it's a sum which does not necessarily strike me as madness ; )

Hah! Actually an album of which a chap I knew in Charlottesville once gave me a cassette: The Holy Modal Rounders, Alleged in Their Own Time

Wow, I've heard of them. That's scary :o :o  It was just an off-chance that I might be able to help you locate. I'll keep an eye out. :)

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 07:37:33 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:31:39 AM
Yes, I agree with that. I got a disk just yesterday that I have seen selling for $30. The seller started it at $5, hoping it would spark a biding frenzy, I assume. Well, I bid $15, but since no one else bid on it, I got it for $5. I was pleased... :)  In point of fact, this has happened for me dozens of times, far outnumbering the times when I was overbid at the high end.

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Try doing what I do.  Search for all classical CDs, and set the limit to $1.00, or maybe $2.00.  You'd be surprised at what you will find.    Got a mint copy of this for $1. 

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51m0rz8QBSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Some joker is listing it for $70 on Amazon marketplace.

Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Szykneij on September 17, 2010, 07:43:23 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:33:02 AM
Wow, I've heard of them. That's scary :o :o  It was just an off-chance that I might be able to help you locate. I'll keep an eye out. :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW42PzDyPmA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW42PzDyPmA)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 07:51:28 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 07:37:33 AM
Try doing what I do.  Search for all classical CDs, and set the limit to $1.00, or maybe $2.00.  You'd be surprised at what you will find.    Got a mint copy of this for $1. 

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51m0rz8QBSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Some joker is listing it for $70 on Amazon marketplace.

Yeah, I'll try that. I have a few pre-fab searches that I check every day, but I really need to have a more general (and targeted at cheap) search too. I can see us competing now;

"$.99"

"$1.24 - take that you bastard!"   

;D

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on September 17, 2010, 08:08:24 AM
Quote from: Szykniej on September 17, 2010, 07:43:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW42PzDyPmA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW42PzDyPmA)

Hmm. That's on some album other . . . and it's reinforcing my sense that I want to revisit the album what I know, and Accept No Substitutes ; )
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Szykneij on September 17, 2010, 08:29:34 AM
When you mentioned the group, I immediately associated the name with  "Easy Rider". I've never heard anything else by them.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
Quote from: Szykniej on September 17, 2010, 08:29:34 AM
When you mentioned the group, I immediately associated the name with  "Easy Rider". I've never heard anything else by them.

Which reminds me, I've always heard about that movie and was curious enough to rent it.  After about 25 minutes or so there didn't seem to be much point in continuing.   I can't recall a more idiotic film. 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: MN Dave on September 17, 2010, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
Which reminds me, I've always heard about that movie and was curious enough to rent it.  After about 25 minutes or so there didn't seem to be much point in continuing.   I can't recall a more idiotic film.

You mean you're not a biker on acid?  ???
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 08:43:22 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on September 17, 2010, 08:41:20 AM
You mean you're not a biker on acid?  ???

I guess I assumed if I were a biker on acid my life would at least be interesting, though short.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Guido on September 17, 2010, 08:45:20 AM
I always forget to pass through this site when buying from amazon - what percentage does the forum get of every purchase when clicking on the amazon link?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 10:01:16 AM
Quote from: Guido on September 17, 2010, 08:45:20 AM
I always forget to pass through this site when buying from amazon - what percentage does the forum get of every purchase when clicking on the amazon link?

I'm not sure Rob ever told me, but I have a vague remembrance of 5%. :-\

Geology is my hobby. :)

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
Which reminds me, I've always heard about that movie and was curious enough to rent it.  After about 25 minutes or so there didn't seem to be much point in continuing.   I can't recall a more idiotic film.

It was far more interesting in 1969 (the year I graduated high school, BTW) than it is now. :(     

It was the film that gave us Jack Nicholson though. That in itself is value-added. :D

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidRoss on September 17, 2010, 11:31:39 AM
Quote from: Guido on September 17, 2010, 08:45:20 AM
I always forget to pass through this site when buying from amazon - what percentage does the forum get of every purchase when clicking on the amazon link?
Thanks for the reminder.  I was supporting my local classical radio station through an Amazon click-thru, but now that I', participating in GMG again I just tried to revise my Amazon bookmark for GMG  (naturally just after yesterday's purchases!).  But amazon flags don't show on my GMG pages these days, I'm not sure the old link still works ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/573448?tag2=goodmusicguideco ) so I just tried revising my bookmark URL to the link http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2F&tag=goodmusicguideco&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=39095 . 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on September 17, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 06:37:18 AM
I'm just curious here, so no big deal.

I wonder what the business model is for certain vendors on the Marketplace. As an example, look for almost any Classical disk and then go to the "Used" tab and look at what's available. There will often be 15-20 disks under $10, then a few in the regular retail price range (under $20). And then, the mystery (to me). There are a few vendors there, like "Any-Book" and "Woody's Books" and a couple of others that have the same disk, used, for anywhere from $40 to $100! What's that all about? Do they actually sell these? Do they even intend to sell them? ???

I have a CD for sale in that range. It's OOP. I have paid up to $100 for a single CD in a handful of cases.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: George on September 17, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
I have a CD for sale in that range. It's OOP. I have paid up to $100 for a single CD in a handful of cases.

Oh sure, there are lots of disks in that $100 range. But it is the paradox of having a disk for $100 right below an equal one (or 20 equal ones!) for $2.98 that makes me reel. If you have the only copy of an OOP classic for sale, you can ask what you want. If there are 25 copies available and yours is priced 30X higher than others', that just doesn't make sense. :)  And it isn't like this is a rarity; almost any disk you pull up has this going on.

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: George on September 17, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
Oh sure, there are lots of disks in that $100 range. But it is the paradox of having a disk for $100 right below an equal one (or 20 equal ones!) for $2.98 that makes me reel. If you have the only copy of an OOP classic for sale, you can ask what you want. If there are 25 copies available and yours is priced 30X higher than others', that just doesn't make sense. :)  And it isn't like this is a rarity; almost any disk you pull up has this going on.

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I guess they are preying on the less informed customers. There was a thread recently over at CMG on this very topic that mentioned that any book seller.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
Oh sure, there are lots of disks in that $100 range. But it is the paradox of having a disk for $100 right below an equal one (or 20 equal ones!) for $2.98 that makes me reel. If you have the only copy of an OOP classic for sale, you can ask what you want. If there are 25 copies available and yours is priced 30X higher than others', that just doesn't make sense. :)  And it isn't like this is a rarity; almost any disk you pull up has this going on.

Such as this one, which just happens to be in my shopping cart because someone here mentioned it.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G9F9MJG5L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Korngold-Schmidt-Music-Strings-Piano/dp/B000006O66/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284754746&sr=8-2

I have a used copy in my cart for a bit over 5 bucks, but if I go to the list of used copy, there is one seller that lists it for $80. 

This is my theory:

You go to a page and see a used disc from seller X for a good price.  You put it into your cart.  Then you go to the seller X "storefront."  The seller X "storefront" only shows you discs from seller X, it doesn't show you if the disc is available from other sellers unless you take considerable trouble to look.  They you see a disc on seller X's storefront that you have always wanted, but for $100.  Damn, it must be rare, you think.  I'd better get it now before it is too late.  You buy it, and never know that 10 other Marketplace sellers have it for $5.
 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: MN Dave on September 17, 2010, 12:29:17 PM
Quote from: George on September 17, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
I have paid up to $100 for a single CD in a handful of cases.

Was it Jesus playing Bach?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:31:27 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:25:29 PM
Such as this one, which just happens to be in my shopping cart because someone here mentioned it.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G9F9MJG5L._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Korngold-Schmidt-Music-Strings-Piano/dp/B000006O66/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1284754746&sr=8-2

I have a used copy in my cart for a bit over 5 bucks, but if I go to the list of used copy, there is one seller that lists it for $80. 

This is my theory:

You go to a page and see a used disc from seller X for a good price.  You put it into your cart.  Then you go to the seller X "storefront."  The seller X "storefront" only shows you discs from seller X, it doesn't show you if the disc is available from other sellers unless you take considerable trouble to look.  They you see a disc on seller X's storefront that you have always wanted, but for $100.  Damn, it must be rare, you think.  I'd better get it now before it is too late.  You buy it, and never know that 10 other Marketplace sellers have it for $5.


Yup, just like that! :)

I see what you're saying. It never occurred to me because I don't think I've ever been to a seller's store (except once to Newbury Comics'). But that makes good sense if someone only goes there, or happens across it that way. Damn!

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: George on September 17, 2010, 12:17:54 PM
I guess they are preying on the less informed customers. There was a thread recently over at CMG on this very topic that mentioned that any book seller.

I haven't checked them out in a long time. But "Any_Book" must be getting famous off speculation on their business model. :D

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:31:27 PM
I see what you're saying. It never occurred to me because I don't think I've ever been to a seller's store (except once to Newbury Comics'). But that makes good sense if someone only goes there, or happens across it that way. Damn!

Amazon is evil. 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:33:09 PM
Amazon is evil.

>:D

Well, it works better for people who are patient and thorough. Otherwise one can take a good licking. :)

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:36:34 PM
>:D

Well, it works better for people who are patient and thorough. Otherwise one can take a good licking. :)

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Well, it's either play, or get played.  Maybe I'll put a few $100 items into my marketplace listings and see if anyone bites. 
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:41:42 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
Well, it's either play, or get played.  Maybe I'll put a few $100 items into my marketplace listings and see if anyone bites.

We'll send George an advert...   >:D  >:D   :D

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Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on September 17, 2010, 12:55:10 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 17, 2010, 12:31:27 PM
. . . It never occurred to me because I don't think I've ever been to a seller's store (except once to Newbury Comics').

Ditto. Even unto the Newbury Comics (I've made a couple of purchases directly from their site to keep the shipping charge rational).

There have been times when I have wanted to buy Andriessen's De staat, but the Schoenberg Ensemble/de Leeuw recording has been OOP, and for a couple of years, there were only stiffly overpriced copies available from the 3rd-party sellers.  There was no way I was going to pay those asking prices, not even $24.99, for a disc with a single 40-minute (IIRC) work.  It was a lucky day when Paul mentioned the piece again last week or so, because it prompted me to have a fresh look — and lo! I found a new copy for $12 plus sh/h. And it was very good.

I mean: any_book is the high asker for $118.  I could fly to Holland just to have a laugh over that with Louis in Den Haag.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on September 17, 2010, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: Scarpia on September 17, 2010, 12:38:06 PM
Well, it's either play, or get played.  Maybe I'll put a few $100 items into my marketplace listings and see if anyone bites.

Heck, just for a lark you should try.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: snyprrr on June 21, 2011, 06:08:48 AM
Is anyone familiar with Zoverstocks (a vendor on Amazon)?

AArrrrgh!!!!! >:D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on June 21, 2011, 06:13:26 AM
Quote from: snyprrr on June 21, 2011, 06:08:48 AM
Is anyone familiar with Zoverstocks (a vendor on Amazon)?

AArrrrgh!!!!! >:D

I've ordered a couple of items from them in the past half a year; they're in the UK, and there's something generally slow about parcels out of the UK these days.  (Yes, I think that even ZOverstocksUSA ships out of the UK.)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on June 21, 2011, 06:14:22 AM
I know that the suggestion that one need be patient with shipments from the Mother Country, does not vitiate Your Condition (per subject header) . . . .
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: kishnevi on June 21, 2011, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 21, 2011, 06:13:26 AM
I've ordered a couple of items from them in the past half a year; they're in the UK, and there's something generally slow about parcels out of the UK these days.  (Yes, I think that even ZOverstocksUSA ships out of the UK.)

Things aren't shipped in the UK; they are despatched.    I learned that from AmazonUK when I ordered there.  And they don't have shopping carts, they have baskets.

Meanwhile, as I mentioned in the Bruckner thread, I'm still waiting for Zoverstocks to despatch the Argerich box set I ordered over the weekend.

Separate question: is Marketplace vendor FabulousCD actually the same as Abeille Musique.  I've placed two orders with them, and both were shipped by Abeille.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on June 21, 2011, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: kishnevi on June 21, 2011, 06:52:28 PM
Separate question: is Marketplace vendor FabulousCD actually the same as Abeille Musique.  I've placed two orders with them, and both were shipped by Abeille.

I placed 2 orders with FabulousCD and the packing slips that came with the orders did say Abeille ...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidW on June 21, 2011, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 21, 2011, 06:13:26 AM
I've ordered a couple of items from them in the past half a year; they're in the UK, and there's something generally slow about parcels out of the UK these days.  (Yes, I think that even ZOverstocksUSA ships out of the UK.)

To be fair to the UK, whenever I order from mdt I have it within a week.  Zoverstocks takes several days just to mail out their orders.  Not very prompt, but they're cheap.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Mirror Image on June 21, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
I only buy from a few select sellers:

Sellers who I buy brand new, factory sealed items from:

ImportCDs (don't use them much anymore)
blowitoutahere (I use them for Hyperion, DG, Decca, Philips, and EMI)
classicalmusicsuperstore (my go to vendor for Naxos, Chandos, Ondine, Dacapo, and Warner Classics)

Sellers I buy used, like new items from that really understand what "like new" actually means:

Orpheus Classics
mouse8 (I haven't used seller in about a year, but when I see them and their item is the cheapest, I buy immediately)
birdkeeper (only had one problem with them in the past, but remains a reliable seller for me)
SecondStoryBooks (excellent seller who I've had zero problems with, great products)
zzy49 (the few times I've used them, which has been recently has proven to be good experience)
Fred's Collection (an honest seller that I've bought some rare recordings from)
dg25472
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidW on June 21, 2011, 08:30:25 PM
Good list MI.  For me almost everything new I order from blowitoutahere, classicalmusicsuperstore, amazon, jpc, mdt and bro.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Mirror Image on June 21, 2011, 08:35:56 PM
Quote from: DavidW on June 21, 2011, 08:30:25 PM
Good list MI.  For me almost everything new I order from blowitoutahere, classicalmusicsuperstore, amazon, jpc, mdt and bro.

Trust me, it took me several years to get this down to where it is. I've given sellers like Caiman (remember them?) and MovieMars so many chances to correct the error of their ways but they never did, so I never bought from them again. I think Caiman isn't a seller anymore or went out-of-business. I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidW on June 22, 2011, 04:25:41 AM
I remember Caiman... but not if I liked or hated them.  I have a feeling hate.  I think they listed things they didn't have and wasted peoples time, much like MovieMarz actually! :D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: karlhenning on June 22, 2011, 04:39:19 AM
Quote from: DavidW on June 21, 2011, 07:49:25 PM
To be fair to the UK, whenever I order from mdt I have it within a week.  Zoverstocks takes several days just to mail out their orders.  Not very prompt, but they're cheap.

Aye. Chap I once worked with told me of a shop where he had been earlier, they had a great sign:

QuoteFAST
GOOD
CHEAP

Choose any two

So, no, I don't mind the wait, as I am pleased with the price.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: DavidW on June 22, 2011, 04:45:07 AM
Love that, just like "Work, Sleep, Play-- pick two" :D
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Brahmsian on November 04, 2011, 04:54:35 AM
For Amazon Canada marketplace sellers, I've used Caiman, ImportCDs.com and Rarewaves.ca

I'm sure I've used others, but these are the ones I remember.  Never a problem so far.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on November 04, 2011, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: ChamberNut on November 04, 2011, 04:54:35 AM
For Amazon Canada marketplace sellers, I've used Caiman, ImportCDs.com and Rarewaves.ca

I'm sure I've used others, but these are the ones I remember.  Never a problem so far.

Is Caiman still around?  ImportCD is notorious for its cheap packaging, 7 out 10 orders I have received from it has busted CD's cases ...
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kontrapunctus on November 04, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
I can safely recommend Avatar Music in England and Medimops in Germany. Both often are the only source for small labels...good prices and just the standard shipping fees. ImportCDs, Blowitouttahere and ClassicalMusicSuperstore are also excellent, as others have stated. I'm ClassicCDs...100% positive ratings so far! :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on November 04, 2011, 06:04:19 PM
Quote from: Toccata&Fugue on November 04, 2011, 02:43:24 PM
I can safely recommend Avatar Music in England and Medimops in Germany. Both often are the only source for small labels...good prices and just the standard shipping fees. ImportCDs, Blowitouttahere and ClassicalMusicSuperstore are also excellent, as others have stated. I'm ClassicCDs...100% positive ratings so far! :)

Do Avatar Music and Medimops charge the same $2.98 for shipping CD to the US?
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: SonicMan46 on November 04, 2011, 06:14:28 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on November 04, 2011, 09:27:20 AM
Is Caiman still around?  ImportCD is notorious for its cheap packaging, 7 out 10 orders I have received from it has busted CD's cases ...

Caiman disappeared months if not a year or more ago (not sure if they changed to a different name?) - I've ordered a lot of MP CDs from Europe (mainly England) and the $3 'service charge' is the same, so not an issue for me.  I've ordered from many different MP providers and generally if one if lesser known to me I rely on the ratings, i.e. if there are multiple reviews and the satisfaction is in the upper 90% range, then I've been comfortable purchasing from them.  Dave :)
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Coopmv on November 04, 2011, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: SonicMan46 on November 04, 2011, 06:14:28 PM
Caiman disappeared months if not a year or more ago (not sure if they changed to a different name?) - I've ordered a lot of MP CDs from Europe (mainly England) and the $3 'service charge' is the same, so not an issue for me.  I've ordered from many different MP providers and generally if one if lesser known to me I rely on the ratings, i.e. if there are multiple reviews and the satisfaction is in the upper 90% range, then I've been comfortable purchasing from them.  Dave :)

I have only ordered from Europe-based MP vendors by accident and have generally steered clear of them, i.e. Fabulous CD turns out to be a European vendor but I did not know that.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Cato on November 04, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: SonicMan46 on November 04, 2011, 06:14:28 PM
Caiman disappeared months if not a year or more ago (not sure if they changed to a different name?) - I've ordered a lot of MP CDs from Europe (mainly England) and the $3 'service charge' is the same, so not an issue for me.  I've ordered from many different MP providers and generally if one if lesser known to me I rely on the ratings, i.e. if there are multiple reviews and the satisfaction is in the upper 90% range, then I've been comfortable purchasing from them.  Dave :)

Somebody on Amazon commented that Caiman seemed to have undergone a management change 2 or 3 years ago, then went downhill quickly in a year or two.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: kishnevi on November 04, 2011, 07:45:59 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on November 04, 2011, 06:19:48 PM
I have only ordered from Europe-based MP vendors by accident and have generally steered clear of them, i.e. Fabulous CD turns out to be a European vendor but I did not know that.

Fabulous CD is apparently the same as Abeille.  I've ordered from them twice, and received everything promptly and with no problems.  I have ordered from Medimops, encountered a problem (CD was in not as good a condition as stated), bickered, received an adjustment of a few dollars.  A little while ago I ordered another CD because they were the only ones to have it in stock, listed as new--this time there were no problems.  Beyond Zoverstocks being slow to ship, I have no problems with European vendors.  Last week I placed an order with a AmazonUK vendor who is based in England and Germany named Nagiry; that is currently in transit with me.

Stateside, I've ordered several times from ImportCDs, and have encountered no problems.  In fact, I have a CD in transit from them now (Shostakovich 11--Petrenko) which will probably arrive in the next couple of days.  I've ordered twice from classical music superstore--one time, it took them a week to ship the item; the second time was this week--ordered Tuesday, email saying it had been shipped was in my mailbox last night, and I received it today (Shostakovich 5 and 9--Petrenko and Vivaldi--Atenaide--Naive Edition).  The Amazon confimration of shipment email says that classical music superstore is actually Naxos of America doing business under that name;  and the physical address they use in Franklin TN is also one of the addresses used by Arkivmusic. (and I've had the same relatively situation of receiving the shipment almost immediately after the email announcing the shipment from Arkivmusic itself more than once).

Beyond the problem with Medimops and the couple of slow-to-ships I mentioned, I don't recall any problems with an Marketplace vendor in the US or Europe.  In fact, shipments from Amazon vendors are almost always quicker to get to me than those ordered directly from Amazon itself.
Title: Re: Amazon Marketplace
Post by: Kontrapunctus on November 04, 2011, 10:07:53 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on November 04, 2011, 06:04:19 PM
Do Avatar Music and Medimops charge the same $2.98 for shipping CD to the US?

Correct--that's what I meant by the standard shipping fee.