Any opinions on David Zinman's new Mahler 4th? I haven't yet heard it.
Quote from: Don on March 31, 2008, 09:34:09 AM
Any opinions on David Zinman's new Mahler 4th? I haven't yet heard it.
#4 - 3 stars out of 5. Nothing's changed much on The Zinman Mahler Cruise to Nowhere. "Abort! Abort!"
Clear sound, over-miced, efficient playing, boring interpretations. Soprano's okay, contrary to some of the knocks I've read.
Previous starage for this steerage: #1 - 2 stars, #2 - 3 stars, #3 - 2 stars.
Quote from: BorisG on March 31, 2008, 10:30:10 AM
Nothing's changed much on The Zinman Mahler Cruise to Nowhere. "Abort! Abort!"
Hah! Thank you, that gave me a laugh. ;D
Quote from: BorisG on March 31, 2008, 10:30:10 AM
#4 - 3 stars out of 5. Nothing's changed much on The Zinman Mahler Cruise to Nowhere. "Abort! Abort!"
Clear sound, over-miced, efficient playing, boring interpretations. Soprano's okay, contrary to some of the knocks I've read.
Previous starage for this steerage: #1 - 2 stars, #2 - 3 stars, #3 - 2 stars.
What, Zinman did record the 3rd?
Quote from: MISHUGINA on March 31, 2008, 04:54:34 PM
What, Zinman did record the 3rd?
Sure did. I bought the 4th this morning at the local Borders - first disc I've bought there in three months. Since I have almost all recordings of the 4th, figured I might as well get this one as well.
Quote from: MISHUGINA on March 31, 2008, 04:54:34 PM
What, Zinman did record the 3rd?
A quick look at ClassicsToday shows that Hurwitz at least feels the 3rd to be the strongest of the Zinman Mahler recordings. :o
Quote from: Bunny on April 03, 2008, 02:48:13 PM
A quick look at ClassicsToday shows that Hurwitz at least feels the 3rd to be the strongest of the Zinman Mahler recordings. :o
Forget Hurwitz, the Zinman Mahler Cruise to Nowhere starage for steerage pattern is what it is.
#1 - 2, #2 - 3, #3 - 2, #4 - 3, #5 - 2, #6 - 3, #7 - 2, #8 - 3, DLVDE - 2, #9 - 3, #10 - 2.
Quote from: BorisG on April 03, 2008, 03:59:28 PM
Forget Hurwitz, the Zinman Mahler Cruise to Nowhere starage for steerage pattern is what it is.
#1 - 2, #2 - 3, #3 - 2, #4 - 3, #5 - 2, #6 - 3, #7 - 2, #8 - 3, DLVDE - 2, #9 - 3, #10 - 2.
I am as happy to forget Hurwitz as I am not to need to purchase another Mahler cycle. ;)
Nothing that I have read about the Zinman Mahler has encouraged me to take the plunge, despite the dirt-cheap prices of the SACDs. I'll stick with what I have -- Bernstein (2 sets), Bertini, Gielen, Tennstedt, MTT, Kubelik (2 sets), Chailly, Walter, Abbado (2 sets), Zander, Haitinck, Rattle, Solti, Inbal, and probably more that I can't recall off the top of my head. I also have numerous individual recordings of various symphonies... (Horenstein, Mitropoulos, Eschenbach, Ancerl, Levi, Szell, Levine, Boulez, Barenboim, Lopez-Cobos, Ivan Fischer, Eiji Oue, Nagano, Witt, Oskar Fried, Klemperer, Nanut, Haenchen, et al.)
For me, Mahler is an addiction, but one does have to draw the line somewhere. I only hope I won't later cross that line...
Quote from: Bunny on April 04, 2008, 03:01:02 PM
I am as happy to forget Hurwitz as I am not to need to purchase another Mahler cycle. ;)
Nothing that I have read about the Zinman Mahler has encouraged me to take the plunge, despite the dirt-cheap prices of the SACDs. I'll stick with what I have -- Bernstein (2 sets), Bertini, Gielen, Tennstedt, MTT, Kubelik (2 sets), Chailly, Walter, Abbado (2 sets), Zander, Haitinck, Rattle, Solti, Inbal, and probably more that I can't recall off the top of my head. I also have numerous individual recordings of various symphonies... (Horenstein, Mitropoulos, Eschenbach, Ancerl, Levi, Szell, Levine, Boulez, Barenboim, Lopez-Cobos, Ivan Fischer, Eiji Oue, Nagano, Witt, Oskar Fried, Klemperer, Nanut, Haenchen, et al.)
For me, Mahler is an addiction, but one does have to draw the line somewhere. I only hope I won't later cross that line...
I was looking forward to it, as I do almost anything Mahler. Well-played, as far as following Z's dull readings.
As you say, there is too much competition to be bothered with these.
I would like to hear things improve for the balance of his cruise, but that would require a drastic course change. I do not see that happening.
Gosh, what a collection of Mahler. Have you culled any? ;)
I do cull, but only the ones that are completely uninteresting to me. Unfortunately, it's a very competitive field so that I find there's always another recording waiting around the bend. Every time I think of culling something, I am compelled to listen to it again. I usually find something of interest in it again, so the ax rarely falls. I also love comparing new recordings to older ones, so that I can see how styles of interpretation and performance change, and change they do!
FWIW, MusicWeb's review of Zinman's 4th was gushing with praise.
Quote from: Don on April 16, 2008, 05:56:24 AM
FWIW, MusicWeb's review of Zinman's 4th was gushing with praise.
Was the reviewer smoking wacky tabacky?
"This wondrous new Fourth – and for once the superlative is warranted, for it is a performance full of wonder – confirms Zinman as a Mahlerian of real stature. The reading may not displace the likes of Mengelberg, Szell, Klemperer et al but it does deserve a place alongside them."
His two "pot-shots" were toward Norrington and Bernstein's DG. Big deal.
Actually, the reviewer gave his review away in the first paragraph, only allowing Zinman a slight departure from top form in Symphony 3. Strange, how the reviewer hears HIP connection for this cycle. ::)