Any thoughts? Some that came up my mind instantly are:
Strauss, Rosenkavalier, overture to the first act
Brahms, 1st symphony, 1st movement
Brahms, 3rd symphony, 1st movement
Beethoven, "Hammerklavier" sonata, 3rd movement
Prokofiev, 2nd symphony, 1st movement
Tchaikovsky, serenade for strings, 1st movement
etc.
And just to prevent any arguments: the definition of intense is up to you, a strong beginning, an explosive one, one that captures your attention immediately and grabs it until the last note fades away....whatever!
Have fun.
Brahms PC1 I
Dohnanyi: Variations On A Nursery Song
and
Repighi: Michael from Church Windows
http://www.amazon.com/Ottorino-Respighi-Brazilian-Impressions-Festivals/dp/B000003CZV/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1212005768&sr=1-2
scroll down to #2.
wow!
dj
for piano not much beats Rachmaninoff's Sonata 2
Beethoven 5th Symphony
Wagner 'Fliegende Holländer' (Overture)
Wagner 'Meistersinger' (Vorspiel)
Brahms 1st Symphony
Prokofiev 3rd Symphony
Scriabin 3rd Piano Sonata
Mahler 6th Symphony
Langgaard 10th Symphony
Brian 10th Symphony
et cetera
Shostakovich 10 and 14
Brahms 1st PC.
Mozart Don Giovanni
Beethoven 9
Wagner: Das Rheingold and Tristan und Isolde
Bruckner: Symphony no. 7
Mahler: Symphony no. 2, Symphony no. 8, and Das Lied von der Erde
Nielsen: Symphony no. 4
Sibelius: Symphony no. 7
Boulez: Piano sonata no. 2
(i.a.)
Khachaturian Symphony 2 "The Bell"
Nielsen's "Inextinguishable Symphony"
Vaughan Williams Symphony 4/Symphony 6
Liszt - Totentanz
Xenakis - Ioolkos
Honegger - Symphony No. 5 "Di Tre Re"
Bolero again - since the beginning takes 15 minuttes of suspence.
Ives: universe symphony
Sibelius: symphony no. 4
Sibelius: symphony no. 5, last movement
The finale of Beethoven's Opus 131 quartet > all.
Quote from: Corey on May 28, 2008, 11:49:31 AM
Liszt - Totentanz
Not by Liszt though. I believe the music is by Berlioz.
???
Quote from: ezodisy on May 28, 2008, 11:14:09 AM
for piano not much beats Rachmaninoff's Sonata 2
...as well as Schumann's Fantasie, Scriabin's First Sonata and Medtner's "Night Wind" Sonata.
I'm surprised no one has said...
Holst - Mars from the Planets
Strauss - Also Sprach Zarathustra
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on May 28, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Not by Liszt though. I believe the music is by Berlioz.
They both just quoted the same plainchant dies irae theme I think (at least, I read somewhere that the Berlioz SF theme in question was a quote).
Sibelius' Violin Concerto, actually, would probably top my list. :)
Dvorak's Violin Concerto - 1st mvt
Quote from: hornteacher on May 28, 2008, 03:36:38 PM
Dvorak's Violin Concerto - 1st mvt
Especially when play by Hilary Hahn.
Mahler 2
Mahler 5
Mahler 3
Mahler 8
Mahler...
You get the idea. :)
I'm surprised no one has said the Tchai PC 1 :o
Others:
Mozart: Divertimentos (I guess the famous ones): K136-137
Hummel: the opening 'Allegro con spirito' to the Octet-Partita in Eb major
R. Strauss: the opening to the Alpine Symphony
Quote from: Lethe on May 28, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
They both just quoted the same plainchant dies irae theme I think (at least, I read somewhere that the Berlioz SF theme in question was a quote).
Lethe is right, they are both quotations. But the percussive attack and those wild runs on the piano are what really make it "intense".
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on May 28, 2008, 03:38:29 PM
Especially when play by Hilary Hahn.
She hasn't recorded it yet. Sarah Chang has the lock on that concerto right now because its one of her favorites. I'm eagerly waiting for Hilary to record it but to my knowledge she has no immediate plans to do so.
Quote from: hornteacher on May 28, 2008, 05:35:47 PM
She hasn't recorded it yet. Sarah Chang Gil Shaham has the lock on that concerto right now
Fixed. :)
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on May 28, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Not by Liszt though. I believe the music is by Berlioz.
It is by Liszt, his
Totentanz in d minor.
You're thinking (perhaps) of
Totentanz by Saint-Saens (
Danse Macabre) ???
Quote from: hornteacher on May 28, 2008, 05:44:43 PM
Where is that recording?
In a few minutes, your PM box. :)
EDIT: This applies to others who may be interested.
Tchaikovsky Sym. 4 IV
MOZART: Symphony 40
BEETHOVEN: 5th Symphony / Piano Sonata opus 53
JS BACH: St Matthew Passion / St John Passion
BRAHMS: 3rd and 4th Symphonies
MAHLER: 6th Symphony
VERDI: Otello
PROKOFIEV: Alexander Nevsky
Mahler 5th as well as 6th
Bruckner 9th!
Strauss Also Sprach of course
Kodaly Dances of Galanta
Adams Harmonielehre
(doubles as a great ring tone!)
Ligeti Lux Aeterna
Penderecki Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima
Stravinsky The Firebird, and Le Sacre
Wagner Der Fliegende Hollander Overture, opening of Das Rheingold
Zemlinsky Lyric Symphony
Mozart: Symphonies 40 & 41
Mozart: PC 20
Beethoven: Symphonies 3, 5 & 9
Beethoven: PC 1-5
Beethoven: Archduke Trio, Spring Sonata, SQ (pick one)
Schubert: Piano Sonata D 960, Symphony 9
Schumann: PC
Brahms: PC 1
Tchaikovsky: PC 1, VC, Symphonies 5 & 6
Bizet: Carmen (prelude)
Enescu: Symphony 1
Weber: Freischuetz (overture)
a.s.o.
A few random things that come to mind are:
Mahler - Symphony No. 6
Sibelius - Symphony No. 4
Messiaen - Turangalila Symphony
Lutoslawski - Symphony No. 3
Reich - Different Trains
Adams - Harmonielehre
Salonen - Foreign Bodies
Xenakis - Tetras
But I do believe the ultimate winner here has to be:
Penderecki - Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima
Whether you like the piece or not, what could possibly be a more intense beginning than that?
Quote from: Greta on May 29, 2008, 12:37:39 AM
Adams Harmonielehre
(doubles as a great ring tone!)
That reminded me of something I haven't heard in a long time: Louis Andriessen's
De Materie
Quote from: opus67 on May 28, 2008, 11:12:12 PM
Tchaikovsky Sym. 4 IV
Agreed.
Also the opening to the finale to Shosty 5.
Strauss - Also Spach Zarustra (as Sarge first mentioned)
Mozart - Symphony No. 40
Mahler - Symphony No. 6
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5
Beethoven - Piano Concerto No. 5 Emperor
Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 29 Hammerklavier
Schubert - Symphony No. 8 Unfinished
Brahms - Symphony No. 1
Dvorak - Symphony No. 9 From the New World
Quote from: Corey on May 28, 2008, 04:42:18 PM
But the percussive attack and those wild runs on the piano are what really make it "intense".
That piece is a great example of bang and crash done perfectly :D I am kind of addicted to it - fortunately the Bolet box you ordered has a great performance - tempi and balance are perfect, it's become my reference.
Maybe I should've mentioned this earlier: Nearly every work in D minor. (I'll add E minor and G minor, too, but D minor is my favourite.)
Quote from: opus67 on May 29, 2008, 06:25:25 AM
Maybe I should've mentioned this earlier: Nearly every work in D minor. (I'll add E minor and G minor, too, but D minor is my favourite.)
You and Dm, (Dmitri) will get along. 0:)
Quote from: ChamberNut on May 29, 2008, 06:30:17 AM
You and Dm, (Dmitri) will get along. 0:)
;D He seems to be in agreement with me till now... :)
Although there are obviously quite a few works to mention, the very first that came to mind was actually Nielsen's 3rd Symphony!
Somehow, it always manages to grip me from the get-go.
Quote from: Lethe on May 28, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
They both just quoted the same plainchant dies irae theme I think (at least, I read somewhere that the Berlioz SF theme in question was a quote).
Well, i don't know the original chant but i doubt it sounds quite the same way as Berlioz's version in his requiem. Either way, Liszt's
Totentanz does not merely uses the same melody, it's a direct paraphrase of the Berlioz piece, and thus, not an original work in it's own right.
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on May 29, 2008, 11:20:22 AM
Well, i don't know the original chant but i doubt it sounds quite the same way as Berlioz's version in his requiem. Either way, Liszt's Totentanz does not merely uses the same melody, it's a direct paraphrase of the Berlioz piece, and thus, not an original work in it's own right.
Eh — No, I'm not even going to waste my time.
Quote from: Lethe on May 28, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
They both just quoted the same plainchant dies irae theme I think (at least, I read somewhere that the Berlioz SF theme in question was a quote).
Of course. And the
Dies Irae theme was a life-long favourite of Rachmaninoff, too.
Bloch's Piano Quintet No. 1 - primitive and vicious.
Wikipedia to the rescue! (Whether it's accurate or not, who knows, but it adds some weight)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totentanz_(Liszt)#Sources_of_Inspiration
It seems that having heard it in symphonic context did give him the inspiration. The mood in both pieces is quite different IMO though, Berlioz's is a lot more morbid and strange, Liszt's is more of a clinical showpiece.
Quote from: rappy on May 28, 2008, 10:32:56 AM
Any thoughts? Some that came up my mind instantly are:
Beethoven, "Hammerklavier" sonata, 3rd movement
Based on your own criteria, this one can't be included. ;D
The opening of Hartmann's 1st symphony is astonishing--though I don't think the rest of the work measures up to it, I can't think of any more intense symphonic beginning.
Too many 'stunners' that caught my ear immediately in all those listening years ....
Examples:
Josquin Desprez: Missa de Beata Virgine.
Bach: Cantata Bleib bei uns, denn es will Abend werden, BWV 6.
Bach: Johannes-Passion, Matthäus-Passion.
Mozart: Kyrie in D minor, KV 341.
Mozart: Rondo of the Piano Concerto no. 20 in D minor, KV 466.
Mozart: Piano Concerto no. 24 in C minor, KV 491.
Mozart: Don Giovanni.
Schubert: Unvollendete, String Quartet Der Tod und das Mädchen, Quartettsatz in C minor.
Chopin: Piano Sonata no. 3 in B minor, op. 58.
Verdi: Rigoletto.
Wagner: Das Rheingold, Die Walküre.
Mahler: Second and Ninth symphony, Das Lied von der Erde.
Stravinsky: Elegia per viola sola.
Many many more. Apologies to all the masters I forgot.
Quote from: Corey on May 29, 2008, 01:10:23 PM
Eh — No, I'm not even going to waste my time.
For the record, i'm talking about the intro. I just re-read my post and the wording doesn't make this clear. I need to remind myself to get some sleep before posting anything.
Well, since we're not limiting ourselves to orcestral music:
Elliott Carter, String Quartet No. 3.
I've always felt that the beginning of Krzysztof Meyer's 1st Violin Concerto was pretty intense:
[mp3=200,20,0,left]http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/8/25/1381505/GMG%20samples%202/Meyer%20VC%20op12%20Introduzione%20Lasocki.mp3[/mp3]
Chopin's revolutionary etude and his third Scherzo.
As a guitarist, the Passacaglia of Britten's Nocturnal does it for me, especially the point at which the ground bass starts to mutate and fall apart, reaching for the tonality of the Come, Heavy Sleep (Dowland) coda.
Other than that, the Sanctus of De Machaut's Mass and any half-decent melismatic Alleluia can get me quite worked up (e.g. Chants of the Roman Church-Byzantine Period, Ensemble Organum-powerful stuff).
The opening to Bruckners 8th, Finale. Love how this enters with such a gushing, violent fanfare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaFHakTrGY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQaFHakTrGY&feature=related)
Sweeps you off your forgotten about feet, then settles down after a minuite.