http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080531/D910TLRG0.html
Good decision on Obama's part. He stuck by that Trinity Church as long as he reasonably could.
CNN claims he "resigned" from the Church. Wording error, or did he have a position there to resign from? I think the CNN editors have been smoking something funny... ::)
Quote from: Brian on May 31, 2008, 09:11:06 PM
CNN claims he "resigned" from the Church. Wording error, or did he have a position there to resign from? I think the CNN editors have been smoking something funny... ::)
He was just a member of the flock; now he isn't. Hopefully, he'll now pick a boring church.
Quote from: Brian on May 31, 2008, 09:11:06 PM
CNN claims he "resigned" from the Church.
You can't expect journalists to be good with words and terms, you know...
Brian, is that dude in your avatar from Herbie? Sure looks like it!
That dude is the late great Harvey Korman.
Quote from: Brian on May 31, 2008, 09:11:06 PM
CNN claims he "resigned" from the Church. Wording error, or did he have a position there to resign from? I think the CNN editors have been smoking something funny... ::)
they've been smoking something for a LONG time in case you haven't noticed.
Quote from: JCampbell on May 31, 2008, 10:58:11 PM
Brian, is that dude in your avatar from Herbie? Sure looks like it!
Yep, Harvey Korman, who passed away just a few days ago at the age of 81. The pic is from "Blazing Saddles".
Quote from: Brian on June 01, 2008, 08:54:06 AM
Yep, Harvey Korman, who passed away just a few days ago at the age of 81. The pic is from "Blazing Saddles".
I loved that movie!
Quote from: Don on May 31, 2008, 09:10:19 PM
He stuck by that Trinity Church as long as he reasonably could.
You mean until the world got to see what went on in there.
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on June 01, 2008, 06:17:53 PM
You mean until the world got to see what went on in there.
Agree! The world has just discovered something that has been happening for the past 22 years. If Obama really found all of that rhetoric so offensive, he would have found it offensive 22 years ago. Rev. Wright was apparently telling the truth when he said that Obama was only doing what was politically expedient.
Just a case of the same old politics with a new face.
Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 06:47:18 AM
Agree! The world has just discovered something that has been happening for the past 22 years. If Obama really found all of that rhetoric so offensive, he would have found it offensive 22 years ago. Rev. Wright was apparently telling the truth when he said that Obama was only doing what was politically expedient.
Just a case of the same old politics with a new face.
You folks are being very hard on poor Obama. I have belonged to temple memberships all my life and could care less what the religious leaders think; hell, I don't even know what they think. I just show up and try to get into an insular trance (like when I have a root canal procedure).
To me, religious views and practices are very private. So as far as I'm concerned, Obama can go, stay or whatever. I'm still voting for him.
Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 07:44:44 AM
I have belonged to temple memberships all my life...
Why?
Hussein Obama.
I'd rather vote for a republican than see this retard in the office.
1) he uses his skin color to get through to people. He never suffered from his skin color, only benefited--for example thanks to affirmative action he went to Harvard. He's a white person as far as I'm concerned, who tries to look/act/speak black.
2) he is a chameleon--quickly changes sides to "please" the people. He was a member of the trinity church, and then he just "resigned" from it. that's just a freaking kindergarten.
3) ah whatever. you want a disaster of a president, you'll get it. I won't be at all surprised if it turns out he supported and funded extremist organizations involved in 9/11.
They're all disasters. Take your pick. ;D
Quote from: маразм1 on June 02, 2008, 08:53:59 AM
Hussein Obama.
I'd rather vote for a republican than see this retard in the office.
Funny you would say the above, because Obama's got a lot more on the ball than you do. And, he's much more mature.
Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 10:08:35 AM
Simple answer - WIFE.
Gotcha. So you sit there with your iPod on, listening to Bach, while she does her thing. I get it.
Quote from: mn dave on June 02, 2008, 10:11:26 AM
Gotcha. So you sit there with your iPod on, listening to Bach, while she does her thing. I get it.
Don't need the iPod; Bach's always in my head. 8)
Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 07:44:44 AM
You folks are being very hard on poor Obama. I have belonged to temple memberships all my life and could care less what the religious leaders think; hell, I don't even know what they think. I just show up and try to get into an insular trance (like when I have a root canal procedure).
To me, religious views and practices are very private. So as far as I'm concerned, Obama can go, stay or whatever. I'm still voting for him.
Good for you! Religious views are private until you run for President; that's where privacy ends. I couldn't vote for someone who believed that the Jews killed Jesus and deserved to be punished any more than I could vote for a Muslim who believed all women should wear a veil. Religious views of an elected leader should be known and examined closely. They are free to worship or not worship in what ever manner they please, but the voter also have the right to know what they've been listening to every Sunday because it has affected their thoughts and opinions.
Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 10:08:35 AM
Simple answer - WIFE.
What a cop out!
He's sat in a racist church for 20 odd years to please his wife? Isn't that the woman who said she was ashamed of America? Maybe he should dissociate himself from her along with Rev. Wright.
Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
What a cop out!
He's sat in a racist church for 20 odd years to please his wife? Isn't that the woman who said she was ashamed of America? Maybe he should dissociate himself from her along with Rev. Wright.
I was referring to why I am a member of a temple. What Obama does religion-wise is his business.
Overall, I am so tired of our supposed need and right to know just what each candidate is doing with his/her religion. My guess is that everyone of them spouts some sort of religious feeling; whether they really feel anything is up for grabs and none of my business.
So I disagree with your assessment, feeling that religion is entirely private. I certainly have no interest in the subject and don't want to hear any politician telling me about his/her religious convictions. I could never vote for a person who keeps telling me - "I am a person of faith".
Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
I couldn't vote for someone who believed that the Jews killed Jesus
who is a Jew himself. So, where does that leave us, racism-wise?
Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
Funny you would say the above, because Obama's got a lot more on the ball than you do. And, he's much more mature.
If I had a privilege of being born Black, trust me, I'd be on top of the world right now.
Quote from: Al Moritz on June 02, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
who is a Jew himself. So, where does that leave us, racism-wise?
No way man, Jesus looks like this ;D
(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9910/jesusblond3ay8.jpg)
Quote from: Lethe on June 02, 2008, 11:54:37 AM
No way man, Jesus looks like this ;D
(http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9910/jesusblond3ay8.jpg)
Yeah, here Jesus looks gay here...
Quote from: маразм1 on June 02, 2008, 11:58:40 AM
Yeah, here Jesus looks gay here...
I am a practicing Christian, but nonetheless I had to giggle mightily when I read this ...
Quote from: Al Moritz on June 02, 2008, 12:07:26 PM
I am a practicing Christian, but nonetheless I had to giggle mightily when I read this ...
haha :)
Jesus was a homosexual, black Jew. So what?
Quote from: маразм1 on June 02, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
If I had a privilege of being born Black, trust me, I'd be on top of the world right now.
If it's okay with you, I'd rather reserve my trust.
Quote from: mn dave on June 02, 2008, 12:11:21 PM
Jesus was a homosexual, black Jew. So what?
no, Jesus was just black, and he was living in a country run by white Italians -- Just like Obama. (according to jeremiah wright)
Quote from: Al Moritz on June 02, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
who is a Jew himself. So, where does that leave us, racism-wise?
At least quote me in context. I stated :
Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
Good for you! Religious views are private until you run for President; that's where privacy ends. I couldn't vote for someone who believed that the Jews killed Jesus and deserved to be punished any more than I could vote for a Muslim who believed all women should wear a veil. Religious views of an elected leader should be known and examined closely. They are free to worship or not worship in what ever manner they please, but the voter also have the right to know what they've been listening to every Sunday because it has affected their thoughts and opinions.
What a cop out!
He's sat in a racist church for 20 odd years to please his wife? Isn't that the woman who said she was ashamed of America? Maybe he should dissociate himself from her along with Rev. Wright.
I don't care what anyone believes. I just don't want to be punished for something that took place more than 2,000 years ago. :o