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Title: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 06:36:20 AM
Hi everyone

Okay, simple question, but a difficult answer.

If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something, what should it be?

I think I should aks for a Cello Concerto. There seems to be a lost cello-concerto K206a..., so how interesting should it be to have a new one!

So what do you guys want? Symphony, Divertimento, Concerto, Contradance???  :)
And please no opera, because that's simply too much  ;D

Greetz
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Scriptavolant on May 17, 2007, 06:50:38 AM
1) A post-beethovenian string quartet
2) A requiem  >:D
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 17, 2007, 06:52:24 AM
A complete set of prelude and fugues in all 24 keys for string quartet.

A violin concerto (he doesn't have any mature ones).

More chamber music (duh).

More works for wind instrument(s) (clarinet in particular).
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: BachQ on May 17, 2007, 07:04:32 AM
I'd ask him to complete his Requiem, K. 626, before he consider composing anything new . . . . . . .
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: DavidW on May 17, 2007, 07:46:06 AM
I would ask him to revisit the violin concerto. :)
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 07:47:30 AM
Wolferl, take a letter . . . .
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 17, 2007, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 06:36:20 AM

And please no opera, because that's simply too much  ;D

?

Why not?

Writing opera was a lifelong endeavour for Mozart.

Where's the love in cutting him off from his passion?  8)


Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Que on May 17, 2007, 08:08:09 AM
Quote from: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 06:36:20 AM
And please no opera, because that's simply too much  ;D

Another opera was also the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the title of the thread. :'(

Q
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Mozart on May 17, 2007, 08:15:24 AM
The most enjoyable of Wolfie's works are his piano concertos. How about another 22?
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Mark G. Simon on May 17, 2007, 08:53:14 AM
Definitely another clarinet concerto. And I would ask him to please retrieve the manuscript of K.622 so we could finally know exactly how that one goes.
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 08:53:43 AM
Quote from: Que on May 17, 2007, 08:08:09 AM
Another opera was also the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the title of the thread. :'(

Q

Haha, because I think if you can choose an opera, everybody will do that. And no one will choose a single instrumental work because that's to small...  ::)
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Que on May 17, 2007, 08:56:53 AM
Quote from: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 08:53:43 AM
Haha, because I think if you can choose an opera, everybody will do that. And no one will choose a single instrumental work because that's to small...  ::)

Maybe not just that. For me Mozart reached in opera the pinnacle of his abilities, and I feel opera was the genre closest to his heart.

Q
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: springrite on May 17, 2007, 08:59:48 AM
Quote from: Que on May 17, 2007, 08:56:53 AM
Maybe not just that. For me Mozart reached in opera the pinnacle of his abilities, and I feel opera was the genre closest to his heart.


Absolutely! Listen to Mozart's chamber music, and indeed much of his orchestral works as well, and you hear arias, recitatives, very operatic ideas realized instrumentally.

So I will go with opera, and it would have been great if Mozart were the one to compose the first true German opera (his German language operas are really more Italian in nature.)
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Don on May 17, 2007, 09:09:13 AM
Quote from: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 08:53:43 AM
Haha, because I think if you can choose an opera, everybody will do that. And no one will choose a single instrumental work because that's to small...  ::)

Not at all.  How about a large-scale piano variations works based on the opening theme to the Requiem?
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Bach Man on May 17, 2007, 09:45:45 AM
A cello concerto.
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: BachQ on May 17, 2007, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: Mozart on May 17, 2007, 08:15:24 AM
The most enjoyable of Wolfie's works are his piano concertos. How about another 22?

Good point.  Another piano concerto . . . . . . . Only I'd request that Mozart first study the scores to Brahms PC #1 and Rach 3 . . . . . and then go from there . . . . . .
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Leporello on May 17, 2007, 10:38:25 AM
Quote from: springrite on May 17, 2007, 08:59:48 AM
So I will go with opera, and it would have been great if Mozart were the one to compose the first true German opera (his German language operas are really more Italian in nature.)

What do you mean??
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Mozart on May 17, 2007, 11:02:15 AM
If Mozart wrote an opera today it might be too hollywoodish.  Get ready for Don Giovanni #2 the most awaited sequel of the last 220 years!
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: oyasumi on May 17, 2007, 11:35:39 AM
a hip hop album
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Daidalos on May 17, 2007, 12:43:02 PM
I would be quite interested to hear what Mozart would do in a post-Jupiter symphony.
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: hornteacher on May 17, 2007, 02:19:44 PM
How about finishing the K412 horn concerto by providing a middle movement?
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: david johnson on May 17, 2007, 02:39:52 PM
i would like a trumpet concerto...but i think it would be most interesting to say, " here's what's happened since you died.  use what you wish and do your thing, man. "

dj
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Maciek on May 17, 2007, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: Don on May 17, 2007, 09:09:13 AM
How about a large-scale piano variations works based on the opening theme to the Requiem?

Good idea!

Though a Cello Concerto wouldn't be bad either (he could tuck the variations somewhere inside ;D)...
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: quintett op.57 on May 17, 2007, 03:39:45 PM
Quote from: Bach Man on May 17, 2007, 09:45:45 AM
A cello concerto.
Violin concertos being some of his finest works and Haydn's cello concertos being marvellous, I approve.
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: mahlertitan on May 17, 2007, 03:52:54 PM
a symphony in the style of Mahler (assuming he is a quick learner)
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 17, 2007, 08:06:46 PM
I'd like to see him dive deeper into the piano sonata waters. With the doors that opened after Beethoven's arrival I bet he could write some F-A-N-T-A-S-T-I-C solo piano pieces.

Something chromatic, for starters...




Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Steve on May 17, 2007, 08:46:46 PM
A grand ballet in the spirit of Tchaikovski
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Symphonien on May 18, 2007, 01:52:02 AM
Quote from: D Minor on May 17, 2007, 09:45:57 AM
Good point.  Another piano concerto . . . . . . . Only I'd request that Mozart first study the scores to Brahms PC #1 and Rach 3 . . . . . and then go from there . . . . . .

And thus have the key of D Minor in his subconscious...?
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: JoshLilly on May 18, 2007, 08:07:16 AM
I'd love to have this opportunity, but unfortunately it's not realistic.  What is realistic, however, is to find out from the Paris Bibliothèque du Conservatoire what the hell happened to the F Major Cello Concerto. They held it as recently as 1912, when they pulled the first 6 measures to insert into their catalogue. Those 6 measures still exist. The rest... what did they do to it?! I mean, it wasn't a fragment or anything, it was completed in March 1775. 1912 is fairly recent to be losing a Mozart work, though of course tons of music was lost forever in the two World Wars. You'd just have thought by then someone would have gotten around to making copies. Then again, Mozart's Cello Concerto is not the (probably eternally) lost piece of music to suffer from such lack of forsight.

There is the unfinished Triple Concerto that includes a cello soloist, a couple of people have tried to flesh it out, but consensus seems to be that there's not enough material to be at the point where it just needs to be touched up. Still, there are several completed versions out there, dating from the 1800s on up to more recent ones.
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: Bunny on May 18, 2007, 08:27:52 AM
If?  Definitely a Broadway musical. 
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: hornteacher on May 18, 2007, 12:40:21 PM
He could write the soundtrack to "Amadeus II: The Revenge of Salieri."
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: bwv 1080 on May 18, 2007, 12:42:59 PM
Perhaps he could finish out Beethoven and Mahler's 10th symphonies
Title: Re: If you had the chance to ask Mozart to compose something
Post by: BachQ on May 18, 2007, 12:47:01 PM
Quote from: bwv 1080 on May 18, 2007, 12:42:59 PM
Perhaps he could finish out Beethoven and Mahler's 10th symphonies

And the finale to Bruckner's Ninth . . . . . .