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Title: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 12, 2007, 05:29:39 AM
A couple of dreams I've had lately.....

a few weeks ago- the first part was kinda dumb, but it had to do with me missing out on the big fight last year at school which made the newspaper. What really happened in real life was that I was just absent from school, but in the dream, I was with my friend about to find a place to sit and eat lunch. We were about to go outside and saw the police and there was a big scandal, so we didn't go outside and that was pretty much it.
The second part is one of the strangest ideas I've ever had, and never could've (or would have reason to) think of it. I was at my old neighborhood (the one i used to live in 3 months ago), outside standing on the sidewalk. I look up and see this black spaceship-looking thing floating above the houses. It has this long black chord with a small platform at the end which was touching the ground. Some of the kids my age who were my neighbors stepped outside, and it went from house to house, lifting them up from the platform into the spaceship-thing one at a time. I was (this word is so cheesy, but it's the first thing that came to mind) flabbergasted. (The spaceship-things looked like those things on the video game Beyond Good and Evil that magnetically pick you up and drop you off when you're entering an off-limits zone in your boat.) The next day, I hear on the news that the government secretly sent out those things to pick up young people for the draft! I was glad I avoided those things and didn't step on the platform. There was a lot of arguing since a lot of people didn't approve of the draft, and i was hoping they would completely stop it.

A couple of days ago, I had a very disturbing dream. It might sound funny, but it didn't feel funny at all. I dreamed that my little brother killed a friend with his fingernail. Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous, isn't it, lol? I didn't actually see the crime, and the events are kinda fuzzy. In real life I used to pick him up for at the bus stop and he'd be the only kid there. I did that for about 2 weeks off and on until 2 weeks ago or so, when summer break started. I think in the dream, what happened was that I picked him up and asked him, "you killed a kid on the bus with your fingernail?" He said he did, and we were both extremely sad and couldn't believe it because it was something that never could've happened. Then we wondered what would happen. The whole thing was really tragic, like Pettersson-type tragic.

I've had a lot of dreams lately that I can't remember, that are vague and abstract. There were a few which involved lions chasing me. There were some where I'm riding something like a car (i can never see it) and go on the strangest ride, through world that look like a mixture between video games I haven't played in forever and real-life streets. And it's really fast, too, and frightening. Maybe these types of dreams are modeled after theme park rides and mixed with extra stuff?

Another frightening dream that I've had lately (and probably has recurred a few times, it really seems it has) is that I'm in the hallway of my old school and the whole building falls down flat just like a book falling on a shelf. Then the fire alarm goes off, red emergency lights flash everywhere and I'm stuck running around trying to find the right staircase. Usually when I dream about school, though, I keep on dreaming that I'm trespassing by going back with everyone even though I've already graduated. Then I have the awful feeling I'm not wanted and I try to avoid all the grownups so I won't get caught and find my old friends. I think the interpretation of this dream is way, way, way, too obvious. Perfect, easy example for Freudian dream analysis. I dream of old friends way too much, maybe once every other night. Especially one of my friends who moved away in less than a week's notice (he didn't even say anything, i asked him about it) about 4 years ago. I found his myspace page a few months ago and sent him a message, but he hasn't logged on in over a year. I've had a few dreams where I'm at this school that is like a vague model of my high school I went to from 9th to 11th grade. Then I enter in a classroom and I see him in the same class and I'm really happy, though I can't remember if we ever talk. In a similar dream I'm at my desk in a class, and the whole direction of the class is moved from straight ahead to the right, for no reason. Then where the teacher and chalkboard is supposed to be, there's a glass window that covers the whole wall. We're all looking out and we see a different part of the street that the school is on, as if the school teleported from its normal area to another. Then I get really, really frustrated and disappointed because nothing is happening. I'm sitting by someone and we're not talking. I was hoping for excitement and nothing! Lol, I just realized the glass window part I got from when I used to ride the bus and look out the window all the time. I did that for most of the first two years in high school if there was no one interesting to talk to, which was often. Then the last two, I basically owned my seat. I'd lay down in it and by then everyone recognized it was my seat (espeically as a Senior) so i got less people stealing it or asking to share it, hehehe.

(I wonder if there is any rhyme or reason with how and when the subconcious chooses to relive experiences and mix them up with random symbols and other stuff....)

So, everyone else, what have you all been dreaming about lately?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on June 12, 2007, 05:35:36 AM
I didn't actually see the crime, and the events are kinda fuzzy. *** what happened was that I picked him up and asked him, "you killed a kid on the bus with your fingernail?" He said he did, and we were both extremely sad and couldn't believe it because it was something that never could've happened. Then we wondered what would happen. The whole thing was really tragic, like Pettersson-type tragic.

How do you know it was a "crime"?  It could have been accidental ....... or in self-defense ......... or the result of an irresistible impulse ......... or the product of overpowering insanity .........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 12, 2007, 05:37:21 AM
or the result of an irresistible impulse ......... or the product of overpowering insanity .........
yeah, i knew somehow that it was this- but these would still be considered crimes  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mozart on June 12, 2007, 12:29:56 PM
Last night I had an awesome dream! I saw the back of my eyelids for 7 hours!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 12, 2007, 01:48:18 PM
Last night I had an awesome dream! I saw the back of my eyelids for 7 hours!
you need to learn how to remember your dreams......

or maybe you just dream like a blind man, that is, with no pictures.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 12, 2007, 02:01:39 PM
I can't post my dreams. Uffeviking would have me banned  ;D

Sarge
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 12, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
some dreams might be better off unposted  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Philoctetes on June 12, 2007, 02:34:50 PM
Landing a hardflip.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mozart on June 12, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
you need to learn how to remember your dreams......

or maybe you just dream like a blind man, that is, with no pictures.

No, I just waste my dreams while Im awake.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on June 12, 2007, 04:06:40 PM
The last one I had took place within an old castle wall. I was running very fast after someone who I remember wanting to kill. For some reason the scope of my vision included gun sights.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: oyasumi on June 13, 2007, 08:31:16 AM
人生は一瞬の夢に過ぎない
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 13, 2007, 08:37:20 AM
人生は一瞬の夢に過ぎない
huh... sounds like some saying, did you make that up or not?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 13, 2007, 09:40:55 AM
oh..... wait, i thought about it and see what you're saying.
"Life Is Just a Dream", right?

the 一瞬のpart kinda threw me off, if you translated that literally in English, it would mess up the whole expression.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 23, 2007, 11:27:51 AM
Last night, I watched this feature on Oprah (yeah, Oprah, lol) right before going to bed. They had a discussion about misogyny and all the bad stuff in rap and hip hop, and how to go about helping it go into a good direction. A couple of hip-hop guys were there, but they were some of the good guys who don't fall into want the public wants with all of the profanity and stuff.
So......

My dream last night I can divide into 3 parts:
1) there's a couple of rappers that visit the house and we let them stay for awhile even though we're kinda nervous about them. Where this idea came from is obvious, since I just watched a show on rappers. But they're cool, and we let them go out but......

2) we look out the window and some of the wildest stormy clouds accumulate and make movements that are just out-of-this-world scary. So we decide to stay in. The connection here, I just thought of it a while ago, was when I looked outside the window a couple of days ago and saw these storm clouds and lighting that was just crazy-looking.

3) i end up going upstairs (even though my house has no upstairs) to a hotel. I see my little brother in front of me and i feel something bad is going to happen. I don't know what, that part was hard to remember, and it was the end. The connection I made while thinking today was that it actually did remind me of this scene from "The Shining" where the little kid is in the hallway. A few weeks ago, I watched that scene because I wanted to hear Penderecki's De Natura Sonoris #1 in the movie (i have never see the whole movie). The dream was like a nightmare scene, just like the movie, and the "camera angle" was the same, too.


A few more thoughts in a second......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 23, 2007, 11:49:04 AM
That dream I just had is like a descent back into time, like a time machine.
Part 1) was just a few hours before sleeping, 2) was a few days, and 3) was a few weeks.

I think the way dreaming works is very similar to anything creative. Being creative means taking what you already know and then mixing it up to create something totally new. In music, this means making new music, in art it means making a new picture/sculpture/whatever, etc.

There's actually two types of composing. 1) Improvisation. 2) Improvisation , but written down so you can make adjustments to anything. Classical music is composed using 2). Stuff like jazz or rock soloing is 1). Dreams are like 1) except they can involve to make a story, and for most people it's usually just the visual, by far the most dominant. For blind people, it'll be the auditory- their dreams might just be sounds, or the sense of touch, like they're touching the walls.

So, when I'm composing, playing the guitar or piano, to be the most succesful, you have to be in sort of a dream-like state. You have to let the right side (subconscious) part of your mind loose so you can recall anything you've learned, even if it was something long ago. The reason for this is that this part of the brain has way better memory, and you can access it's powerful memory if you're in a certain state of mind. But you also have to use the left side of you brain for certain things, such as knowing if it's possible to even play the thing or not  ;D.

One question I want answered is this: in my dream, when I looked out of the window and noticed it raining, it made me say, "well, looks like you guys are going to have to stay here." Is this evidence of the conscious, logical mind? If it's raining, they have to stay here. Sounds like a math problem. 2 + 2 = 4. But could this also be the subconscious mind's reasoning? It's almost instinctual to stay inside when it rains, so in a way it's too simple to be reasoning/logical/left brain. To me, this seems like evidence that the left brain is working in a small part, similar to how it does when you're composing.

Freud theorized that there's a force that "distorts" the dream, which is just an expression of a wish. I think this force is the left brain- he might've said that, I can't remember though. If you dream of stripping in public and you want to, sometimes the left brain might be on and you'll reason that that wouldn't be a good thing to do, right?

And when Freud says that dreaming is an expression of a wish..... i wonder if it's more like a release of creative energy or just a release of memory. i'll do some more thinking......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sean on June 23, 2007, 01:07:37 PM
I'm listening to Martinu's Julietta at present, an opera set in a dream that Julietta's suitor Michel has: the dramatic movement is very dreamlike indeed with rather accurate wild shifts of the meaning and logic of things- most of it indeed seems to be just absolute chaos and goodness knows what the audience would make of a production. Though Michel becomes aware that he's stuck in a dream his frustrated obsession to find Julietta becomes total and he chooses to remain lost in it rather than to wake and face reality.

I think there's something deep going on here. I haven't worked out exactly what, perhaps to do with setting out on the wrong footing and holding on to it even as his girl and common sense eludes him, but it seems to sum up my own love-life...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 23, 2007, 01:51:41 PM
Sean, what's up man?!
we were just saying talking about how you probably de-registered again to go lady-hunting  ;D.
(actually, i used the term "booty hunting"..... er, cuz you're a pirate  ;)).

that sounds like an interesting opera! Never even heard of it until now.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sean on June 23, 2007, 11:00:32 PM
Hi greg. Well the infamous M forever made a reappearence so I wanted to reply to his interesting thread. I'm off to a place in Italy on Sunday though where I'm told there's only the occasional net-cafes, and indeed hopefully ladies will distract me from the dumb thing altogether.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on June 24, 2007, 08:58:55 AM
I just woke up from a nap. During my nap, I dreamt that I took my roommate's cat to work, and had to get her back to the house quickly. When I arrived home, thunderclouds were looming over head, and it was sunset, so I decided to grab my camera and take photos. Before long, I ran into the house to take cover, and noticed a bright flash behind me. To my surprise, it wasn't lightning, but a rainbow that was unusually intense. Actually, the rainbow was so intense that it burned down a shed.  ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mark G. Simon on June 24, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
I have one frequently recurring dream -- at least it's the dream that I most frequently remember due to the fact that I dream it just before I wake up. In this dream I'm looking for a men's room, a toilet anywhere I can find it, because I have to pee something ferocious. The trouble is, everywhere I go, the john is either occupied, out of order, or it's filthy beyond belief. There's always some obstruction that keeps me from using this rest room. If I try to look for another one all I find is empty halls, or halls with ladies' rooms only, or I get detained by annoying people with trivial business for me to attend to so that I can't get away to resume my search, or I have to push my way through tremendous crowds only to find that the men's room on the other side is likewise occupied, out of order or filthy beyond belief.

Eventually, of couse, I wake up and invariably find that I really do have to pee something ferocious.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 24, 2007, 10:43:54 AM
Actually, the rainbow was so intense that it burned down a shed.  ???
:D

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I have one frequently recurring dream -- at least it's the dream that I most frequently remember due to the fact that I dream it just before I wake up. In this dream I'm looking for a men's room, a toilet anywhere I can find it, because I have to pee something ferocious. The trouble is, everywhere I go, the john is either occupied, out of order, or it's filthy beyond belief. There's always some obstruction that keeps me from using this rest room. If I try to look for another one all I find is empty halls, or halls with ladies' rooms only, or I get detained by annoying people with trivial business for me to attend to so that I can't get away to resume my search, or I have to push my way through tremendous crowds only to find that the men's room on the other side is likewise occupied, out of order or filthy beyond belief.

Eventually, of couse, I wake up and invariably find that I really do have to pee something ferocious.
Sounds like having to go to the bathroom at my old school  :-\
with the last sentence there, this is just one of those dreams that are way too easy to interpret  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 24, 2007, 10:44:56 AM
i've had so many thoughts yesterday and today about how dreams work that I feel like posting a few i've had , but..... maybe i'll get to just a hint today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EmpNapoleon on June 24, 2007, 11:29:30 AM
I think most dreams have to do with the body.  For example, in your dream, Mark G. Simon, there are obstacles standing before the "business" you must take care of in your body.  This "business" could mean anything going on in your body that you know of.  Some may think that the dream merely means that you need to urinate.  Freud may think that the dream is asking you to recognize your penis.  Anyways, you need to relieve yourself in some way, but there are obstructions, as you say.

There's a decent site: http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/
It's a good place to start if you can't think of dream meanings.

For example, Kullerve, rainbows dreamt apparently denote the following: "...much hope,  success and good fortune in the form of money, prestige, or fame. The rainbow is a bridge between your earthly, grounded self and the higher, spiritual self.  For lovers to see a rainbow, symbolizes overwhelming happiness from their union." 
I love the power of your rainbow, the bond between earth and heaven.  However, I don't want this to sound remotely mystical, as the website makes every image seem:

"To dream that a house is on fire, indicates that you need to undergo some transformation. If you have recurring dreams of your family house on fire, then it suggests that you are still not ready for the change or that you are fighting against the change. Alternatively, it highlights passion and the love of those around you."

Think about the shed?  Do you know of or have you known of any sheds?  Is there something outside of your house, physically or psychologically?

 



Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 24, 2007, 11:33:26 AM
There's a decent site: http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/
It's a good place to start if you can't think of dream meanings.

Dream dictionaries are only useful in a small way. It gives a possibility of what a symbol might mean, but from one person to the next the same symbol can mean a million different things. You always have to go by context and how the symbol makes you feel in the dream. So normally i don't pay them much attention  :-X
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 25, 2007, 08:59:58 AM
my apostrophes dont work

ok, i'll try to at least share just a bit on my thoughts about how dreams work.

Saturday, I went canoeing for a few hours in the morning and then watched The Ring right before going to bed. As I drifted off to sleep, I pictured myself canoeing (in 1st person) and then came upstream and to the left i saw a caveman hunched over. I don't know why it was a caveman, but that's not the important thing. What was important is that it was looking like it was about to get me!

First I have to ask: does anyone else sorta "dream" before they even fall asleep?  That's what I'm describing.

Even though most of my thoughts were reliving the canoeing, there's still a part of my mind that was reliving on the movie, but it was more subconscious. So I do see how symbolism works, here's another example:

when I was rowing, I hit a tree (yeah, that happened a few times)  :P
But the STRANGE thing was that when I pictured myself using the paddle to touch the tree and pull the canoe to the right (since the tree was right in front), my mind shifted the picture to this scene in a video game that i haven't played in years. The main characters are in this cave, and straight ahead is a dirt path, and if you pull to the right, you go to a save point. The tree and the dirt path look the same.

I have a theory. The beginning of every dream comes from what I like to call the "carry over" effect. Theres probabaly a name for it, but i just dont know what it is.

You know how when you ride roller coasters all day long you feel like youre still riding them? The last time i rode them that much i was in 2nd grade, but i still remember it. Also, if you swim all day long, canoeing, drive, anything else now that I think about it. Those are physical, but even mental or visual stuff stays in your mind more than you want it to. Sometimes, when youre not in a good mood and you argue with someone, you can watch a good movie and feel good but even when the movie is over you feel a hint of anger, even if you dont think about before.

So when you go to sleep, I think you start off dreaming about what you did during the day but forget that part. The visuals are what you normally see through the day or are visual represenations of how you feel. Then one thing leads to another with associations like the ones I described above. The associations can go back forever it seems, but dont usually go back to when you were 1 or 2. Thats how the dream story unfolds.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 17, 2007, 05:01:11 AM
last night, i had several dreams..... at the moment, i can only remember the first two. The first one was normal for me, a long dream about a friend from years ago. The second one was very interesting....

I was at a basketball game. Magic vs. Bulls. (of course, i was cheering for the Magic)
It was a tied game, with just a few seconds on the clock. Some guy for the Bulls was at the free throw line. He puts up a brick that's so bad, he only hits the backboard, lol. So the Magic get it back and have to travel across the court and try to avoid a foul.

Near the 3-point line, Pat Garrity does anything just to try and avoid a foul. He shoots the ball but instead shoots it so short that he's able to run and catch the ball again. Then he's charged with a self-pass, and it results in a turnover. I think in my dream I forgot it was actually a tied game, that's more like something that'd happen if they were in the lead.

So Darrel Armstrong, who is on the Bulls (i've actually lost track, i don't know what team he really plays for anymore), is the out of bounds guy who is going to pass to get the final shot. (As a side note, at the beginning of my dream he was on the Magic, so i think i forgot that, too). He has this attitude that he actually wants the Magic to win, so instead of passing it to someone wide open he passes it to the guy who is right next to him, somewhat far outside the 3-point line. The guy takes a wild shot (a sky hook) with only a second on the shot clock....... the ball hits the side of the rim, bounces up VERY high, and it looks like it'll be a miss and the game will go into overtime. BUT......... somehow, high up in the air, it travels to the left and falls straight in. The Bulls win the game with a miracle shot and I'm extremely annoyed. Actually, now that I realize it, sounds like a typical Magic game  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: S709 on July 17, 2007, 05:43:09 AM
Thanks for this thread, greg!
I have been interested in 'figuring out how dreams work' for years. I have been writing down all the interesting dreams I've had for at least 2 years now, so the 'collection' may be nearly 200 or so (not as large as Freud's though :D ).
I always get up in the middle of the night after a powerful dream and write it down -- while half-asleep -- and then it is usually quite a surprise to read what I wrote in the morning, because it has all been forgotten.
The worst part about it is that dialogue is very difficult to remember: in so many dreams there was quite long and detailed dialogue but I only recall vague ideas or single sentences about the dialogue even soon after the dream is over.
Often a word description is inadequate so I have to draw the various bizarre images, some of which have been quite interesting.

I'll type up some of the more strange ones later. :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 17, 2007, 05:46:05 AM
Thanks for this thread, greg!
I have been interested in 'figuring out how dreams work' for years. I have been writing down all the interesting dreams I've had for at least 2 years now, so the 'collection' may be nearly 200 or so (not as large as Freud's though :D ).
I always get up in the middle of the night after a powerful dream and write it down -- while half-asleep -- and then it is usually quite a surprise to read what I wrote in the morning, because it has all been forgotten.
The worst part about it is that dialogue is very difficult to remember: in so many dreams there was quite long and detailed dialogue but I only recall vague ideas or single sentences about the dialogue even soon after the dream is over.
Often a word description is inadequate so I have to draw the various bizarre images, some of which have been quite interesting.

I'll type up some of the more strange ones later. :)

finally, someone who actually shares my interest in dreams on this forum.  :)

yeah, go ahead, post however many dreams and thoughts/theories about dreams as you want!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on July 17, 2007, 05:50:15 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nRF1QyHtM1I

 :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: karlhenning on July 17, 2007, 05:52:47 AM
I dream of being awake.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: orbital on July 17, 2007, 05:57:42 AM
The great Taoist master Chuang Tzu once dreamt that he was a butterfly fluttering here and there. In the dream he had no awareness of his individuality as a person. He was only a butterfly. Suddenly, he awoke and found himself laying there, a person once again. But then he thought to himself, "Was I before a man who dreamt about being a butterfly, or am I now a butterfly who dreams about being a man?"
 :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 27, 2007, 09:48:54 AM
i had two dreams last night that i can remember..... the first one, i was in a concert watching some orchestra. George was in there, playing one of the instruments, but i don't remember which one. Then he had to sit down for the 3rd movement (he sat to the right of me) but I asked him, "what? you're done?" He told me "no, actually i have to go back for the last movement."  ???

The 2nd dream was just something else. It was basically a flying dream. I was walking along the street when I jumped and tried to fly. Surprised, I stayed in the air and told myself to keep at it. So then i jumped a few times in the air and eventually jumped probably a little further than i wanted to and could see the houses like they were dots- it was sorta like Google Earth. But it was totally satisfying because I knew i had achieved something which is humanly impossible.   8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 11, 2007, 04:46:39 AM
last night i dreamed i was in a lunchroom eating lunch with 4 members of the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. One was Johnny Depp (one of my favorite actors) and the other 3 were monster. Eventually I realized since Johnny Depp was famous, why haven't I (or anyone else) asked for his autograph? It seemed awkward to ask since we were friends, but I decided to.... the lunch bell rang and everyone got up and started walking away. I try to get to him to ask him for his autograph but wake up..... everytime I wake up from a dream it's a bummer.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on August 11, 2007, 01:11:12 PM
last night i dreamed i was in a lunchroom eating lunch with 4 members of the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. One was Johnny Depp (one of my favorite actors) and the other 3 were monster. Eventually I realized since Johnny Depp was famous, why haven't I (or anyone else) asked for his autograph? It seemed awkward to ask since we were friends, but I decided to.... the lunch bell rang and everyone got up and started walking away. I try to get to him to ask him for his autograph but wake up..... everytime I wake up from a dream it's a bummer.

From where are those lyrics are those in your sig, some kinda pansy metal band? ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mozart on August 11, 2007, 03:18:11 PM
Im not Freud, but I think you want to have sex, and with your friends mum.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on August 11, 2007, 04:20:23 PM
Now that it's clearer in my mind, I remember the hockey balls

Stop there and explain what a hockey ball is.

Wait.

On second thought, don't.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mozart on August 11, 2007, 05:28:43 PM
I'm afraid I don't follow you...

LOL
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 12, 2007, 10:38:05 AM
From where are those lyrics are those in your sig, some kinda pansy metal band? ;D
Yngwie Malmsteen, the guitarist who got me into classical music. The original shredder, the guy I play like most.

What's that about, fear of sex?

nah, just you not wanting to die maybe
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 23, 2007, 06:49:07 AM
i had a ton of dreams last night, but could only remember 2. The first is one of the most enigmatic dreams I've ever had. I did achieve an interpretation, but i don't like it at all.  :P

With the first, I dreamed that my friend called me on the phone. This friend was some I haven't even thought about for a couple of years, the last time i saw him was in my Programming class in 11th grade, lol. He was sort of a happy-go-lucky nerd type, not "cool" to other people, but to me "cool" cuz he was nice. He spoke to me on the phone in a really nervous voice, telling me that i had to do something. I don't remember the details, but eventually i had to go to my Playstation and hook up some type of wire or chord to the Playstation. I could tell someone had him hostage or something, it was pretty obvious. But I didn't do it in time, and i think he died.  :'(
The strange thing was, I didn't picture anything throughout my whole dream until the very end when I was at my Playstation, all I heard was his very scared voice for a long time. I even woke up and went back to sleep and the whole time heard his scared voice.

The second dream was obvious. I dreamed that I met my old friend again (he's one of the people i've dreamed of seeing again so many times i can't even count, over the years). In the end, he said he had to go and he was going to live with his girlfriend the rest of his life in Europe. I was like, "well, alright, man, i'll keep in touch." Then I thought that every single time I saw him again, it was so short and he had to go somewhere quickly. What I didn't realize in my dream was that those times that I "saw" him again were when he was in my dreams!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on August 23, 2007, 04:42:08 PM
i had a ton of dreams last night, but could only remember 2. The first is one of the most enigmatic dreams I've ever had. I did achieve an interpretation, but i don't like it at all.  :P

With the first, I dreamed that my friend called me on the phone. This friend was some I haven't even thought about for a couple of years, the last time i saw him was in my Programming class in 11th grade, lol. He was sort of a happy-go-lucky nerd type, not "cool" to other people, but to me "cool" cuz he was nice. He spoke to me on the phone in a really nervous voice, telling me that i had to do something. I don't remember the details, but eventually i had to go to my Playstation and hook up some type of wire or chord to the Playstation. I could tell someone had him hostage or something, it was pretty obvious. But I didn't do it in time, and i think he died.  :'(
The strange thing was, I didn't picture anything throughout my whole dream until the very end when I was at my Playstation, all I heard was his very scared voice for a long time. I even woke up and went back to sleep and the whole time heard his scared voice.


I've had plenty of dreams like that — not really involving any kind of physical threat, but dreams involving people with whom I'm on bad terms, or don't know well. I've dreamt of my old roommates many times, and wake up wishing that we could be friends. Though... that dissipates fairly quickly and I'm glad I never have to see them again. :p
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 04, 2007, 05:26:55 AM
a few nights ago, i dreamed that i heard this atonal piece that involved singing and some instruments (and was only a page long), it was by Beethoven (his last work) and i liked it.

last night, i dreamed that i was in a Wal-Mart in Korea and the store was really small (it was in the front) and the back half was really big (it was a restaurant)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 17, 2007, 01:46:13 PM
last night i had a dream...... it wasn't really a story, it seems more like a memory but it's just one of those things that make you think a long time about it. It was an extremely happy dream, it combined two EXTREMELY good things in one dream, what convenience!

and the amazing thing is, i can see how my subconscious pieced every bit of bland, horribly depressing and disgusting reality together to form a dream which i couldn't even think of myself awake..... and it was so happy  0:)

that seems to happen sometimes, having a dream where every part can be traced back easily, and nothing is far away.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on November 17, 2007, 05:15:27 PM
last night i had a dream...... it wasn't really a story, it seems more like a memory but it's just one of those things that make you think a long time about it. It was an extremely happy dream, it combined two EXTREMELY good things in one dream, what convenience!

and the amazing thing is, i can see how my subconscious pieced every bit of bland, horribly depressing and disgusting reality together to form a dream which i couldn't even think of myself awake..... and it was so happy  0:)

that seems to happen sometimes, having a dream where every part can be traced back easily, and nothing is far away.

Greg, we hope you won't feel too terribly disappointed if we convey to you the impression that we have no f#cking idea what you're talking about .......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 18, 2007, 05:13:12 PM
Greg, we hope you won't feel too terribly disappointed if we convey to you the impression that we have no f#cking idea what you're talking about .......
i really didn't want to explain it because then it'd be more of my dreams which you'd probably understand less, rather than bits of dream theory that i have thought of......

it's very very very very very very very very very very very dumb

but ok, i'll connect the dots  ;)





last night i had a dream...... it wasn't really a story, it seems more like a memory but it's just one of those things that make you think a long time about it. It was an extremely happy dream, it combined two EXTREMELY good things in one dream, what convenience!

and the amazing thing is, i can see how my subconscious pieced every bit of bland, horribly depressing and disgusting reality together to form a dream which i couldn't even think of myself awake..... and it was so happy  0:)

that seems to happen sometimes, having a dream where every part can be traced back easily, and nothing is far away.
i dreamed that the girl of my dreams was with me, and it's was pitch black outside. We were in some building in Russia. The person behind the counter (at a hotel maybe?) was talking to us, halfway in Russian and there were two people next to us. They said they were coming from far away, and then I said, "oh yeah..... we're from halfway around the world!"  :D about then, it ended......

traveling dreams to foreign countries are some of my favorites  0:) 0:) 0:)
so obviously, the 2 good things were the girl and being in another country.

the combination i was talking about was like this:
-i kept waking up at night because i knew i had to get up a 5 am for work.... so all around i saw it was dark, so it was dark in my dream, i mean EXTREMELY dark
-the girl..... hm, ok, let's just say i thought of her more than normal that day..... which means i didn't think of much else
-Russia, and the Russian-speaking ?clerk?...... i had customers that day which were speaking either French or German..... pretty sure it was German, but it sounded so French, it confused me! But the way the guy talked just sounded so funny, i almost burst out laughing. I don't know why, German isn't too much of a funny language...... i also had a guy speaking some Indian language which is even crazier but the way he talked didn't make me want to laugh at all, lol

you know, what i've always daydreamed about is being with that girl to visit her old hometown, Boston, and then we could visit Karl and have him play clarinet for us. Now THAT would be just too cool.......  0:) 0:) 0:) 0:) 0:)




see..... took awhile to explain. Now everyone is probably more lost.....

anyone ever have dreams that they could decipher so easy, as if it were a puzzle with all the pieces together?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 19, 2007, 07:24:21 AM
see, no one has any idea what i was talking about, still...... that's why i didn't bother to post all that, originally.


last night i dreamed of watching a basketball game- i guess it was the Magic! Basketball dreams are one more type of dream that i have from time to time..... i think this has to do with my emotional surprise at how good the Magic are doing- they even beat the Celtics yesterday! That's insane!!! The Celtics are the top team in the east, they were 8-0 until the Magic beat them, i'm surprised and extremely disappointed that almost no one out around Central Florida is even able to watch the games on TV. Right when they start getting good, too.....  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on November 19, 2007, 03:05:04 PM
i dreamed that the girl of my dreams was with me, and it's was pitch black outside. We were in some building in Russia. The person behind the counter (at a hotel maybe?) was talking to us,

The problem with this dream, Greg, is that, if you're in a building with your sexiest, horniest dream girl, you don't spend your time talking to a counter clerk .........

Perhaps, over time, you'll figure out what to do with her .........  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 20, 2007, 05:34:44 AM
The problem with this dream, Greg, is that, if you're in a building with your sexiest, horniest dream girl, you don't spend your time talking to a counter clerk .........

Perhaps, over time, you'll figure out what to do with her .........  ::)
perhaps  ;)

last night i dreamed of Dubai..... talk about random! For this one, i had no clue of what happened that day that would cause me to dream of Dubai.

ok, more specifically, i remember two scenes. The first, I was in a Wal-Mart, and i was messing around with the stuff on the shelf when I saw some sort of saw, pressed a button, and it did something and asked me for money. I was kinda scared the government would track me down somehow.
the second scene, I was talking to the leader and some other guys were with him, but i think they were acting like they didn't care if he died, that they wanted control.

Freud said that usually dreams have something about what happened that day in them. This seems like a good general rule, because often this is obvious, like in the Russia dream. This one isn't that obvious............. but if I had to guess, it was the mixture of video games and evening programming that led up to this somehow.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on November 20, 2007, 05:45:38 AM
I frequently dream of Dubai, as well as Upper Volta and Suriname .......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 20, 2007, 05:46:52 AM
I frequently dream of Dubai, as well as Upper Volta and Suriname .......
seriously?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 09, 2007, 06:37:52 AM
seriously?

Yes.  Why, just last night .........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 09, 2007, 06:05:45 PM
Yes.  Why, just last night .........
and may i ask the details?



(wow, that was a bit late...... i wonder why?  ;D )
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 10, 2007, 05:05:26 AM
and may i ask the details?

....... Would you believe that my dream involved a flying monkey? ..........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 10, 2007, 09:56:29 AM
....... Would you believe that my dream involved a flying monkey? ..........
yes. A flying monkey in Dubai. Sounds interesting. Did he poop all over Dubai, too?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mikkeljs on December 10, 2007, 12:13:34 PM
Once I dreamed:

(One of theise dreames that feels like months of time. So it´s quite long.)

In the start I was a person called Finn Nørbygård (a danish entertainer). I was standing in a rich town, I knocked on a door and ran away. I ran through another building on the other site of the street, and kept on running until I was quite long away and started to get tired. When I sat down, a man pointed me on my shoulder. It was the man from the house, that I knocked on, and he asked: ,Any problem?!´, and I turned around and said: Yes, want to speak with you.  :D

This man was working in a bank or something, and I got into his house and had a long conversation with him. While he was doing something else, I stole 3 (girl munks -don´t know the english translation), 3 tables, 3 (those thing, you are sitting in), and other things, and I saved it in a packet.

(Then I don´t remember what happened for a long time)

Near the end, I had my packet with me somewhere in Austria near an Autostrahta. There was a mafia hidden behind some black camouflage, and I was going to give them my packet. I walked into their hide, and gave it to the boss. He said something to my, which I didn´t heard, so I just said:, What?´, and he felt that this reaction was my nerves, and they thought, I was not trustful. The two guards pointed mashinguns against me, and suddently Jakob Haugård (another danish entertainer) jumped up through the ground in front of me. He was almost naked and had milk cream all over his body, and small happi-burthsday-flags of paper was snowing down over him. And then he screamed directly into my face and song: TAKE MY HAND AND HAVE A PEICE OF CAKE...BECAUSE IT IS YOUR BURTHDAY TODAY!!!´, and then he planted his two fingers into my eyes, so I got blind...and waked up.

What the h... does that dream mean?!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 10, 2007, 12:27:59 PM
yes. A flying monkey in Dubai. Sounds interesting. Did he poop all over Dubai, too?

No poop.  For more information as to the monkey's role in the dream, and the monkey's relationship to the dream participants,  please visit this thread.  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,1237.0.html)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 10, 2007, 12:57:07 PM
Once I dreamed:

(One of theise dreames that feels like months of time. So it´s quite long.)

In the start I was a person called Finn Nørbygård (a danish entertainer). I was standing in a rich town, I knocked on a door and ran away. I ran through another building on the other site of the street, and kept on running until I was quite long away and started to get tired. When I sat down, a man pointed me on my shoulder. It was the man from the house, that I knocked on, and he asked: ,Any problem?!´, and I turned around and said: Yes, want to speak with you.  :D

This man was working in a bank or something, and I got into his house and had a long conversation with him. While he was doing something else, I stole 3 (girl munks -don´t know the english translation), 3 tables, 3 (those thing, you are sitting in), and other things, and I saved it in a packet.

(Then I don´t remember what happened for a long time)

Near the end, I had my packet with me somewhere in Austria near an Autostrahta. There was a mafia hidden behind some black camouflage, and I was going to give them my packet. I walked into their hide, and gave it to the boss. He said something to my, which I didn´t heard, so I just said:, What?´, and he felt that this reaction was my nerves, and they thought, I was not trustful. The two guards pointed mashinguns against me, and suddently Jakob Haugård (another danish entertainer) jumped up through the ground in front of me. He was almost naked and had milk cream all over his body, and small happi-burthsday-flags of paper was snowing down over him. And then he screamed directly into my face and song: TAKE MY HAND AND HAVE A PEICE OF CAKE...BECAUSE IT IS YOUR BURTHDAY TODAY!!!´, and then he planted his two fingers into my eyes, so I got blind...and waked up.

What the h... does that dream mean?!
man, you have some really hideous dreams..... what a messed up, disgusting ending!  ;D

i still remember when you said you dreamed three nights in a row that you were being chased by the devil, i think it was around halloween last year. And then some guy almost ran you over with a car- now that would make any person paranoid!

when was this dream? Do you think it's related to something on TV? Best explanation i can think of.






No poop.  For more information as to the monkey's role in the dream, and the monkey's relationship to the dream participants,  please visit this thread.  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,1237.0.html)
:-X
no need to go further......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 10, 2007, 12:59:53 PM
no need to go further......

I wasn't planning on it  :P .......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EmpNapoleon on December 10, 2007, 01:39:36 PM
and then he planted his two fingers into my eyes, so I got blind...and waked up.

Oedipus.  I'm not giving an interpretation Freud would give.  I'm merely pointing out the profundity of Sophocles.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mikkeljs on December 11, 2007, 12:10:11 AM
man, you have some really hideous dreams..... what a messed up, disgusting ending!  ;D

i still remember when you said you dreamed three nights in a row that you were being chased by the devil, i think it was around halloween last year. And then some guy almost ran you over with a car- now that would make any person paranoid!

when was this dream? Do you think it's related to something on TV? Best explanation i can think of.







I think it was a year ago. I also think TV was a bit involved.  ;D

In this summer I also had a funny experience! I sow a film about exorcism, which was build on a real story. It was about a loyer, who should argue why a girl died.  during an exorcism. And this loyer started to be attacked by the devil. The symptoms were, that one woke up 3 a.m. precisely at night.

The night after I sow this film, I woke up at the night and looked on the watch. It was 3:00. A bit scary, not not as terrífying as when it happened the night after again!  :o Precisely 3:00.
The 3rd night I woke up, and I was quite pleased, when I sow the clock was later. The second after I felt this, the minute number changed from 32 to 33, so it said 3:33! That was a bit nasty.  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 11, 2007, 06:23:12 AM
I think it was a year ago. I also think TV was a bit involved.  ;D

In this summer I also had a funny experience! I sow a film about exorcism, which was build on a real story. It was about a loyer, who should argue why a girl died.  during an exorcism. And this loyer started to be attacked by the devil. The symptoms were, that one woke up 3 a.m. precisely at night.

The night after I sow this film, I woke up at the night and looked on the watch. It was 3:00. A bit scary, not not as terrífying as when it happened the night after again!  :o Precisely 3:00.
The 3rd night I woke up, and I was quite pleased, when I sow the clock was later. The second after I felt this, the minute number changed from 32 to 33, so it said 3:33! That was a bit nasty.  ;D
LOL!!!! i can't stop laughing at this  ;D
either the devil is trying to get you or you have a really good sense of time, subconsiously.

really, i don't think TV is helping you much  ;D


you should try turning off the light and looking into the mirror while saying "Bloody Mary" 3 times  >:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sean on December 14, 2007, 09:45:50 AM
I often dream about forms of transport and negotiating various difficulties with them- boats, trains, buses, planes etc. I guess this is because they're always a bit stressful and the mind seems to go over such things to reconcile them somehow. But I seem to dream most about airliners and crashes- last night for instance a huge dark aircraft moved slowly not far above, then crashed and blasted dozens of people with burning fuel. There are also often very spectacular crafts in the sky, highly colourful and fascinating.

My brother used to keep turantulas in the room below and I would dream about the damn things and being trapped in silk etc- no doubt in my mind about some kind of telepathy there, and I had to move my bed as far away as I could to keep it to a minimum, but though I sleep elsewhere now I still get the critters sometimes.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 14, 2007, 03:23:13 PM
I often dream about forms of transport and negotiating various difficulties with them- boats, trains, buses, planes etc. I guess this is because they're always a bit stressful and the mind seems to go over such things to reconcile them somehow.
man, i'm sure there's some better way of transportation than what's out there now.... it's just that the system has been so firmly established that changing it now would be about impossible.  :P


My brother used to keep turantulas in the room below and I would dream about the damn things and being trapped in silk etc- no doubt in my mind about some kind of telepathy there, and I had to move my bed as far away as I could to keep it to a minimum, but though I sleep elsewhere now I still get the critters sometimes.
arrrrrghhhhhh!!!!
i hate dreams with lots of spiders all over the place.  :(



i forgot to post about it, but the last few nights my dreams have been all over the place. Like 2 nights ago, i'm running all over the place from aliens who are literally burning the whole city down. It was like being in a video game.... but the whole time i felt undescribably happy, despite the threat of getting burned alive by aliens. I guess i'm always happy when i'm asleep, at least just to be asleep....

and then at the end, around the time i wake up i have the craziest thoughts. I dreamed that the head cashier at work (who is my age) was standing in my bathroom, guarding the bathroom while my dog used the toilet. 
........ yeah, i'm serious, too.....
another thing i do which is sorta messed up, is, right before i wake up, i sorta practice languages automatically- except i mix them up and make novel sentences combining Japanese and Spanish at the same time, like Casa de wa comeru.... i don't think anyone would get this, i'll try to explain:

Casa- Sp. house (everyone knows that)
de wa- Jp. in (instead of "en" for Sp.)
comeru- (eat) a combination of Sp. comer and Jp. taberu

stuff like that, i guess you could call it Jaspanshese  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: маразм1 on December 14, 2007, 03:33:50 PM
last night i fell asleep, under effect of percocet.  i had the most bizzare dream--i left the tv on and it was some obscure anime show about androids :)  so in my sleep, the dream had the dialog from the cartoon, but visuals were insanely trippy!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 14, 2007, 03:41:20 PM
last night i fell asleep, under effect of percocet.  i had the most bizzare dream--i left the tv on and it was some obscure anime show about androids :)  so in my sleep, the dream had the dialog from the cartoon, but visuals were insanely trippy!
probably a ripoff of ghost in the shell  :P ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sean on December 14, 2007, 10:21:55 PM
Cheers Greg.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 15, 2007, 05:17:32 PM
Cheers Greg.
and cheers back to you, too, Sean!  8)


last night was crazy, i had 5 dreams! i kept on waking up, partially since i was so scared to go to work today (i have a hard time sleeping some days when i realize i have to work a full day the next day). And yes, it was hell.


the first dream i remember is very stupid, so i won't even go into it. The second dream i just remember a girl that reminds me of the girl that i dreamed of literally 3 times last night! It's the same girl that i dream of maybe twice a month, the same one i was with in Russia.....  ;D

actually, one of them i can't remember clearly, but the second one i saw her while walking around the buses at my old school, and the second i saw her, i woke up. The second i saw her, it's just beyond describable... i knew i was dreaming, so i woke up right away. It's like how a blind man must feel when he's blind his whole life and then he can finally see and he sees a sunset, it was just so much above everything else i could barely understand it. The third time i was at school and she was holding hands with a long group of kids at my school and they were singing something, i just realized what this represents, lol it's very very stupid lol

but these types of dreams are THE dreams that make me consider there might be partial truth in Freud's dream theory, "Dreams are representations of repressed/suppressed desires, which may be distorted". The last few days i haven't thought of her or other girls that went to my old school at all, after all why should i bother to think about them if they only ignore me, right? The more i forgot about them (mainly her), the more likely i'm going to reminded of her in my dream, and 3 times was crazy! If only i could dream that way all the time  0:) 0:) 0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sean on December 16, 2007, 02:08:53 AM
Sure thing Greg (我叫格雷格), I dream about girls, usually ones I messed up with. Don't worry- reality is far worse. I guess it's best we forget about most dreams though. I noticed that I dreamt for several years about things that I'd tried to do over a long period then failed at- particularly a job I had once, a driving test, and a trip to Africa.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 16, 2007, 04:48:13 PM
(我叫格雷格)
you're not Greg, I am!  >:(

 ;D hahaha, ok, that was dumb....

Sure thing Greg (我叫格雷格), I dream about girls, usually ones I messed up with. Don't worry- reality is far worse. I guess it's best we forget about most dreams though. I noticed that I dreamt for several years about things that I'd tried to do over a long period then failed at- particularly a job I had once, a driving test, and a trip to Africa.
yes, reality is far worse, it's best to deny its existence and just live in your own world, that's the only way to achieve happiness.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 18, 2007, 07:13:41 AM
last night i dreamed of being in a huge department store with over a hundred floors, except when you went to the elevator, the floors between 20-something and 50-something were missing, same with 50-100. So i go up to floors 52 and 102 and don't remember much about it, but it was a bit mysterious, i don't think the floors were completed yet. Then i go down to 20-something and it's like the same store from the first floor, except arranged completely different. Then i go down to the 1st floor since my dad was waiting for me. THEND
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 18, 2007, 07:39:50 AM
I noticed that I dreamt for several years about things that I'd tried to do over a long period then failed at- particularly a job I had once, a driving test, and a trip to Africa.

You failed your driving test?  You failed at taking a trip to Africa?

Explain.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 18, 2007, 02:42:58 PM
You failed your driving test?  You failed at taking a trip to Africa?

Explain.
give it a month or two, Dm, he'll be back  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 27, 2007, 06:03:55 AM
I had a dream the night before last night about being on the computer, and looking at some picture that was almost like a blue sky or something (very abstract, very plain colors)..... but somehow, Per Norgard started writing messages on it and i "talked" to him with the messages we were writing on the pictures- and i don't mean typing, i mean drawing with the pencil tool in Paint!  :o (how bizarre...)

i had a second dream, but just now i forgot what it was...

last night, i dreamed about what it would be like to be in a tall building that falls down on its side.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Greta on December 27, 2007, 08:39:43 AM
Anyone else ever dream about seeing concerts or meeting musicians? :) Whenever I have these sort of dreams, especially performances, they unfortunately ALWAYS cut off right before the performance starts!

Last night I was about to see Boulez do Mahler 9th (the last mvmt, why only the last mvmt, I have no idea), in a private performance - but my dream ended just when the musicians were arriving on stage!!

It was very neat, me and a companion, and others had been specially invited to a lecture Boulez gave, which was on Mahler and various other thoughts of his on music....about 100 person audience, and it was in France for some reason...

When that was over, the organizers came out and said they had a special surprise for us, which was that we were about to get to see this surprise performance. We were stoked! Then we made our way into this darkened small theatre, and the musicians were tuning up on the stage....and that's where it ended. Argh!  ;D

And I have these dreams fairly often, they seem so real, but unfortunately the music never actually happens.

I also never dream about dead composers or musicians either, that would be kind of fun....except for one dream about some kind of Composers' Festival and Hindemith happened to be there rehearsing his Kammermusik!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: karlhenning on December 27, 2007, 08:49:08 AM
Anyone else ever dream about seeing concerts or meeting musicians?

Yes, not all that often, but from time to time.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 27, 2007, 08:57:42 AM
Anyone else ever dream about seeing concerts or meeting musicians? :) Whenever I have these sort of dreams, especially performances, they unfortunately ALWAYS cut off right before the performance starts!

Last night I was about to see Boulez do Mahler 9th (the last mvmt, why only the last mvmt, I have no idea), in a private performance - but my dream ended just when the musicians were arriving on stage!!

It was very neat, me and a companion, and others had been specially invited to a lecture Boulez gave, which was on Mahler and various other thoughts of his on music....about 100 person audience, and it was in France for some reason...

When that was over, the organizers came out and said they had a special surprise for us, which was that we were about to get to see this surprise performance. We were stoked! Then we made our way into this darkened small theatre, and the musicians were tuning up on the stage....and that's where it ended. Argh!  ;D

And I have these dreams fairly often, they seem so real, but unfortunately the music never actually happens.

I also never dream about dead composers or musicians either, that would be kind of fun....except for one dream about some kind of Composers' Festival and Hindemith happened to be there rehearsing his Kammermusik!
surprisingly, i don't have these types of dreams often. And it seems like dreaming of Boulez conducting the last movement of Mahler 9 is something i would dream about (after all, i often listen to it right before bedtime, like the night before last. Last night i listened to the last movement of RVW's 6th...)

hopefully someday you'll actually get to hear the music in your dream, Greta...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: The Emperor on December 27, 2007, 11:56:15 AM
Last night i watched batman begin and dreamt about batman, go figure lol and it the movie was just ok, i wonder if i did really liked it...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 27, 2007, 01:14:39 PM
Last night i dreampt ...about batman ...the movie was just ok, i wonder if i did really liked it...

Subconsciously, you loved the movie ........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: The Emperor on December 27, 2007, 01:31:22 PM
Actually i think it was an internet discussion, me saying that Keaton owns Bale lolz
Anyway i don't remember what i was doing in the dream, i wasn't Batman for sure ahah
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 27, 2007, 01:44:10 PM
Actually i think it was an internet discussion, me saying that Keaton owns Bale lolz
Anyway i don't remember what i was doing in the dream, i wasn't Batman for sure ahah

Now that your subconsciousness has informed your consciousness of its true preferences, you owe it to yourself to revisit that Batman movie ........  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on December 27, 2007, 02:34:59 PM
Anyone else ever dream about seeing concerts or meeting musicians? :) Whenever I have these sort of dreams, especially performances, they unfortunately ALWAYS cut off right before the performance starts!

Last night I was about to see Boulez do Mahler 9th (the last mvmt, why only the last mvmt, I have no idea), in a private performance - but my dream ended just when the musicians were arriving on stage!!

It was very neat, me and a companion, and others had been specially invited to a lecture Boulez gave, which was on Mahler and various other thoughts of his on music....about 100 person audience, and it was in France for some reason...

When that was over, the organizers came out and said they had a special surprise for us, which was that we were about to get to see this surprise performance. We were stoked! Then we made our way into this darkened small theatre, and the musicians were tuning up on the stage....and that's where it ended. Argh!  ;D

And I have these dreams fairly often, they seem so real, but unfortunately the music never actually happens.

I also never dream about dead composers or musicians either, that would be kind of fun....except for one dream about some kind of Composers' Festival and Hindemith happened to be there rehearsing his Kammermusik!

The only one I can remember had something to do with Berlioz.  ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Greta on December 27, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
I'm not sure whether dreams "mean" anything really, I think they seem to be a fusing together of "leftovers" floating around in the brain...

For example, before I had the Boulez dream, I had been discussing with someone Boulez Mahler (though not the 9th? don't know where that came from), and then we are -surprise- at such a concert. So there is actually a method behind this madness.  ;D

And I do remember that prior to that dream with Hindemith, I had happened upon a clip on YouTube of him actually conducting, the CSO.

People think it is quite amusing I remember my dreams so well...but I can't help it....they are rather interesting!

Of course, you dream a lot and don't remember it, but a few I do remember that were very funny, music-related but yet, no music were: once I was somehow the person assigned to pick up and drive a guest performer to the rehearsal site, once I was a conductor's assistant of some sort (I was getting mail, which included very large scores? LOL), and once I was leaving a concert with friends, that was apparently fantastic (under Previn (?), no idea what orchestra or rep), we were walking out of some big silvery concert hall, into an equally silvery and futuristic downtown, some sort of cross between Seattle and Dallas way in the future...crazy, yes, I know. ;)

A question - has anyone had "lucid" dreams before?

That term refers to when you "realize" you're dreaming during the dream and suddenly can control the events. That is a VERY strange, and almost scary experience. It happened once to me after I had been in the hospital (thanks Vicodin!), in my dream I came "home" and uh, nothing around was quite "right", nothing looks like it was supposed to, I had siblings I don't really have, as soon as I set foot in the door, I *knew. So then I went on an exploration to see what was going on in this "parallel universe", it was all so odd and different... I got bored with that, I didn't like the parallel situation at all, and was almost afraid I couldn't end the dream and would be stuck there...so I had the bright idea to go upstairs and try to go to sleep in the dream, and perhaps I would wake up and things would be normal, and that is what happened.

I think now I can imagine how Alice felt....

For some of these vivid dreams I immediately wrote a journal to record the experience in as much detail as I could, as is sometimes suggested, but what is the point with that really except to go back and laugh at those later...they are completely outrageous!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 28, 2007, 07:23:40 AM

For example, before I had the Boulez dream, I had been discussing with someone Boulez Mahler (though not the 9th? don't know where that came from), and then we are -surprise- at such a concert. So there is actually a method behind this madness.  ;D

the "last movement of the 9th" idea came from my mind..... since people with the same birthdays have vibrational fields in their brains that operate at the same speed and frequency, some ideas may be transmitted to one site of vibrational fields to another by the method of transvibrational teleportation. It's something 71db discovered with the help of my imaginary friend.  :)




I'm not sure whether dreams "mean" anything really, I think they seem to be a fusing together of "leftovers" floating around in the brain...

that's what it is basically, but the "rules" and probabililty of what happens is very complex. It's not 100% random or predictable...... as Freud noted once, there's almost always one thing in your dream that is from that day, and analyzing my own dreams, he's right on.
I think the greatest mystery is where the dream comes from in the first place.... close your eyes and right before you sleep you see a bunch of images, sounds, ideas floating around in your head randomly... then you get to sleep..... after awhile of nothing a dream may come into your mind. Where the beginning of the dream comes from is a mystery to me, but it's progress is more of a mix of rational thought and complete surprise. Perhaps it's only memorable if you have a balance of both?



A question - has anyone had "lucid" dreams before?

That term refers to when you "realize" you're dreaming during the dream and suddenly can control the events. That is a VERY strange, and almost scary experience. It happened once to me after I had been in the hospital (thanks Vicodin!), in my dream I came "home" and uh, nothing around was quite "right", nothing looks like it was supposed to, I had siblings I don't really have, as soon as I set foot in the door, I *knew. So then I went on an exploration to see what was going on in this "parallel universe", it was all so odd and different... I got bored with that, I didn't like the parallel situation at all, and was almost afraid I couldn't end the dream and would be stuck there...so I had the bright idea to go upstairs and try to go to sleep in the dream, and perhaps I would wake up and things would be normal, and that is what happened.

I think now I can imagine how Alice felt....

For some of these vivid dreams I immediately wrote a journal to record the experience in as much detail as I could, as is sometimes suggested, but what is the point with that really except to go back and laugh at those later...they are completely outrageous!
I've had lucid dreams before, a couple of times when i was a little (they're more common for kids), and a couple during a long period of trying to get lucid dreams.

a summary of what i mean by that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dream#Reality_testing

but if Vicodin is what gave you that very strange lucid dream, i want some!  ;D
What'd seriously be great is if you could lucid dream for hours each night, it'd be like living in another world  0:) 0:) 0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on December 28, 2007, 07:35:27 AM
Greg,

Perhaps you should become a Wikipedia editor, so that you can help draft, edit and cleanup this article on The Art of Dreaming.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Dreaming)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 28, 2007, 07:59:17 AM
it only has 4 of the '7 gates!'

too bad i don't know the rest...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on January 01, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
Last night, I dreamed that Greg, Karl and I were waiting for an outdoor performance of Mahler's 3d Symphony; while we were waiting: (1) Greg was busy picking up snacks; (2) Karl was yammering away about how he plans to spend his upcoming 2-week vacation; (3) A schoolgirl was doing perfect somersaults on the nearby lawn for our entertainment; (4) I was eating chocolate bars; and (5) the double-bass players were practicing the first movement.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 01, 2008, 03:26:58 PM
Last night, I dreamed that Greg, Karl and I were waiting for an outdoor performance of Mahler's 3d Symphony; while we were waiting: (1) Greg was busy picking up snacks; (2) Karl was yammering away about how he plans to spend his upcoming 2-week vacation; (3) A schoolgirl was doing perfect somersaults on the nearby lawn for our entertainment; (4) I was eating chocolate bars; and (5) the double-bass players were practicing the first movement.
now THAT is a fun dream!  0:)

the music didn't go very far, though, did it?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on January 01, 2008, 04:40:11 PM
now THAT is a fun dream!  0:)

?

It was a cool dream (you had to have been there  :P)).


Quote
the music didn't go very far, though, did it

No, the furthest we ever got into the music was the practicing by the bass players of the development section of the first movement (in d minor).  For about a half-hour, we waited for the music to begin ....... but alas .........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 01, 2008, 04:47:44 PM
i think the reason why it's so hard for people to play through music in their dreams is that music requires more left brain power than what you're normally using when you're asleep. The only music I hear when ever hear i'm asleep is stuff i put together myself, i guess musical ideas thrown around that are very familiar (right brain stuff that requires little thought). To actually replay something straight through in your mind, you'd have to be extremely familiar with it.
I guess the analytical section of the brain needs to sleep since it can get tired easily, while the subconscious, right-brain stuff never sleeps (it's like the heart, as long as it's on, you're alive)...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on January 01, 2008, 06:17:50 PM
To actually replay something straight through in your mind, you'd have to be extremely familiar with it.

Good point ...... with which I totally agree.  I usually only dream about music which I've studied and which has flooded both brain hemispheres repeatedly over the longterm .......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 02, 2008, 05:37:42 PM
may you dream about Brahms 1st PC tonight, Dm.....  0:)

may you dream about it......
may you dream about it......
may you dream about it......
may you dream about it......
may you dream about it......

NOW, dream about it, okay? I said, dream about it!!!!
are you dreaming yet?
then finish the Mahler 3......

I COMMAND YOU!  >:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on January 02, 2008, 07:29:18 PM
may you dream about Brahms 1st PC tonight, Dm.....  0:)

I'm not familiar enought with Brahms' d minor piano concerto ......... Maybe when I become familiar with it, I will dream about it.

BTW, if you're into NIGHTMARE music,   >:D, I recommend some pre-bedtime Elgar ........ >:D

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Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 29, 2008, 07:08:32 AM
last night among the many dreams i had, one idea really stood out. I dreamed of this "car" that really didn't look like a car, but it was like a car of the future. The whole body was just two very tall pieces of colored canvas (maybe 7' tall) that formed the sides. Then there were 2 seats, except they weren't really like seats- more like sheets from a folding chair, and you lay down in them. Then the car goes super fast, even though you're inches from the ground. It wouldn't be the safest car around  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on January 29, 2008, 08:31:39 AM
last night among the many dreams i had, one idea really stood out. I dreamed of this "car" that really didn't look like a car, but it was like a car of the future. The whole body was just two very tall pieces of colored canvas (maybe 7' tall) that formed the sides. Then there were 2 seats, except they weren't really like seats- more like sheets from a folding chair, and you lay down in them. Then the car goes super fast, even though you're inches from the ground. It wouldn't be the safest car around  :D

This D kinda ties in with your D of Jonny Depp and the 3 'moster' guys.

cars are like symbols of your life force, your means of going along in your daily routine, the way your energy flows along. American indians and the huns dreamed of a  horse as their life chi, the old egyptians dreamed of camels or the welthier dreamed of chariots as their vehicle to get around in life. We moderns dream of cars.
Canvas, does not provide the kind of protection one needs to get through the hussels and bussels of lifes struggles.
7 foot tall, you may be expending too much energy, which is conserved and withdrawn may go to work on building a   better, more smaller yet sturdier car.
Folding beach chairs, 'life's a  beach", you are too chillin', need to begin seeing a  more responsible side to things.

Super fast/not the safest, lines up with the foregoing ideas. Conserve energy, allow the engery to sink back down and after some time, you may havea   new car.
Hopefully not a  ...YUGO :D
Worlds worst EVER car, broke down just after you pulled in your driveway from the dealership.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 29, 2008, 08:43:25 AM
This D kinda ties in with your D of Jonny Depp and the 3 'moster' guys.

cars are like symbols of your life force, your means of going along in your daily routine, the way your energy flows along. American indians and the huns dreamed of a  horse as their life chi, the old egyptians dreamed of camels or the welthier dreamed of chariots as their vehicle to get around in life. We moderns dream of cars.
Canvas, does not provide the kind of protection one needs to get through the hussels and bussels of lifes struggles.
7 foot tall, you may be expending too much energy, which is conserved and withdrawn may go to work on building a   better, more smaller yet sturdier car.
Folding beach chairs, 'life's a  beach", you are too chillin', need to begin seeing a  more responsible side to things.

Super fast/not the safest, lines up with the foregoing ideas. Conserve energy, allow the engery to sink back down and after some time, you may havea   new car.
Hopefully not a  ...YUGO :D
Worlds worst EVER car, broke down just after you pulled in your driveway from the dealership.

gee....... that sounds an awful lot like a Jungian analysis  ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on January 29, 2008, 08:56:18 AM
i had two dreams last night that i can remember..... the first one, i was in a concert watching some orchestra. George was in there, playing one of the instruments, but i don't remember which one. Then he had to sit down for the 3rd movement (he sat to the right of me) but I asked him, "what? you're done?" He told me "no, actually i have to go back for the last movement."  ???

The 2nd dream was just something else. It was basically a flying dream. I was walking along the street when I jumped and tried to fly. Surprised, I stayed in the air and told myself to keep at it. So then i jumped a few times in the air and eventually jumped probably a little further than i wanted to and could see the houses like they were dots- it was sorta like Google Earth. But it was totally satisfying because I knew i had achieved something which is humanly impossible.   8)

Again like the car goinng too fast, , you are not grounded enough, not necessarily  a   bad thing at certain times in your life , like Lao Tzu dreamed flying as a  butterfly , but lets leave the flying to Superman




Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on January 29, 2008, 08:59:50 AM
gee....... that sounds an awful lot like a Jungian analysis  ;)

yes I follow Jung's studies.
Now where's that D of yours with Jonny Depp and the "3 monsters"?
Johhny Depp, your principle main function.
3 "monsters", 3 under-developed functions. Which in your case as 'monsters" mean these 3 functions are now screaming at you for attention. They are getting ugly.
Jung in not well like around these parts(GMG intellectuals), nor in academic "circles".
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ChamberNut on January 29, 2008, 09:02:36 AM
My dream is to bring paulb to an "all Schumann" concert.

First half

Schumann - Piano Concerto in A minor

Second half

Schumann - Symphony No. 2

Encore

Schumann - Piano Concerto in A minor

 ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on January 29, 2008, 12:34:11 PM
My dream is to bring paulb to an "all Schumann" concert.

First half

Schumann - Piano Concerto in A minor

Second half

Schumann - Symphony No. 2

Encore

Schumann - Piano Concerto in A minor

 ;D

 >:(

What would really be a  nightmare for me, if I had a  D of being at a all Beethoven concert, and i was chained down in my chair. :o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BorisG on January 29, 2008, 07:02:49 PM
Dreams? I am still on this one. :P
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Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on January 29, 2008, 08:21:43 PM
My dreams as of late have all involved driving somehow.  ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on January 29, 2008, 08:28:13 PM
My dreams as of late have all involved driving somehow.  ???

Repetative D's are trying to a  message across.
Try to take a  note down on your next driving D. maybe we can see something.
...Jordache makes the nicest jeans, #1 jeans  ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 30, 2008, 06:58:43 AM
yes I follow Jung's studies.
Now where's that D of yours with Jonny Depp and the "3 monsters"?
Johhny Depp, your principle main function.
3 "monsters", 3 under-developed functions. Which in your case as 'monsters" mean these 3 functions are now screaming at you for attention. They are getting ugly.
Jung in not well like around these parts(GMG intellectuals), nor in academic "circles".

i appreciate you trying to do a dream analysis, Paul, but the only one who can do a nearly worty analysis of a dream is the (informed) dreamer themselves (or a person who asks the dreamer many questions).
i have so many thoughts about how dreams work, but as usual it's hard to organize them. just a minute, i need to think.......


My dreams as of late have all involved driving somehow.  ???
:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 30, 2008, 08:03:10 AM
Paul, I used to read this one book by Freud (the dream book he wrote, "The Interpretation of Dreams"), and at first i agreed with his theory "Dreams are a representation of repressed wishes that may be distorted"...... he also notes there's a factor in memory, almost always something about the day before is in the dream. I've found that to be true. But...... it's still lacking.

(btw, i haven't read Jung's books, just read about his theories.... i do think that many things could complement Freud's theories, more like an elaboration)

When I close my eyes and stop thinking, images form and pictures i never could have thought of with an active mind appear- you know what i'm talking about, right? (the drifting off to sleep phase)


Compare the left side of your brain to your body. Compare the right side of your brain to your heart, lungs.
Left side/body is the part that sleeps (although sometimes you DO move around- and also, sometimes you do use the left side of your brain in dreams, ever try to question something in your dream/rationalize? It's not usual, but sometimes happens).
Right side/heart/lungs is the part that never sleeps, it means you're alive instead of dead.


So, what is likely to happen with all of this activity in only one part of your brain?
An analogy that makes sense to me is comparing real life to performing music- when you're asleep, it's like improvising (limited amounts of stepping back and pondering decisions, just going with whatever comes out)- when you're awake, it's like composing- a mix of improvising and logical thought.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 30, 2008, 08:04:38 AM
and i would like to add, the car dream has something to do with my new car. It's low to the ground and not very safe (though i really like it). Runs smooth, too. The canvas sides, though, i don't get....
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on January 30, 2008, 09:44:48 AM
and i would like to add, the car dream has something to do with my new car. It's low to the ground and not very safe (though i really like it). Runs smooth, too. The canvas sides, though, i don't get....

Maybe you've watched too many Discovery Channel "In the future everything will be made of recycled material" shows.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 30, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
Maybe you've watched too many Discovery Channel "In the future everything will be made of recycled material" shows.
hehe, i don't get that channel.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 30, 2008, 12:48:11 PM
and the dream with Johnny Depp and the 3 monsters, i could sort of put together. But it's neither an exciting or interesting interpretation, just has to do with memory.  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 05, 2008, 11:17:58 AM
last night, i dreamed of being in Wal-Mart and talking to the ghost of Schoenberg.  :o

Except, at first, he was in human form..... but then i thought "wait a second, he's been dead for many years", so then he was in ghost form. Wild how you can go through that and not even realise you're dreaming!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 05, 2008, 11:22:06 AM
last night, i dreamed of being in Wal-Mart and talking to the ghost of Schoenberg.  :o

Except, at first, he was in human form..... but then i thought "wait a second, he's been dead for many years", so then he was in ghost form. Wild how you can go through that and not even realise you're dreaming!

amazing how your D continue with the same theme.
keep em comming, I'm learning and you are teaching.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 05, 2008, 11:26:36 AM
amazing how your D continue with the same theme.
keep em comming, I'm learning and you are teaching.
a similar theme, really?

i don't have an analysis or explanation of this one, so i'm wondering what theme you might be thinking of.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 05, 2008, 12:03:47 PM
a similar theme, really?

i don't have an analysis or explanation of this one, so i'm wondering what theme you might be thinking of.

why don't you back over some of the ideas i gave you before.
pick through it, if anything clicks, good, if not, garbage it.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 05, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
why don't you back over some of the ideas i gave you before.
pick through it, if anything clicks, good, if not, garbage it.
the speed thing clicks, maybe speed of thought? racing mind sometimes?

the Beethoven thing clicks also, that would be a nightmare to sit through an entire Beethoven concert, strapped to a chair  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 05, 2008, 12:50:31 PM
the speed thing clicks, maybe speed of thought? racing mind sometimes?

the Beethoven thing clicks also, that would be a nightmare to sit through an entire Beethoven concert, strapped to a chair  :D

Yes you are onto something.
btw I should say i know a  bit of schonberg's personality from a rare book I skimmed through, a  publication from the Schonberg Foundation in southern california, edited by his daughter. had letters, rare quotes, got inside his mind. I came across the book a  few weeks before K struck, now its lost forever. I'm sure other music libraries havea   copy.
So that helps in gathering insight into just why its Schonberg that enters your D. Also there is a  graet post on the 'chameleon like" career of his music. He offers a  wide range of musical ideas.
All these things help go into determining why it was Schonberg in your D and no other.
Thats how Jung works out his D analysis, from a  very broad perspective, which is something  I'm short on.  Anyway i don't want to go futher, as you did not seem too keen on accepting  about my other ideas.
Which is why i'm letting you make the stabs.


Racing mind. Only you would know.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on February 05, 2008, 01:01:43 PM
In the words of my little niece:

"I have a shweam!"
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 05, 2008, 01:07:21 PM
Yes you are onto something.
btw I should say i know a  bit of schonberg's personality from a rare book I skimmed through, a  publication from the Schonberg Foundation in southern california, edited by his daughter. had letters, rare quotes, got inside his mind. I came across the book a  few weeks before K struck, now its lost forever. I'm sure other music libraries havea   copy.
So that helps in gathering insight into just why its Schonberg that enters your D. Also there is a  graet post on the 'chameleon like" career of his music. He offers a  wide range of musical ideas.
All these things help go into determining why it was Schonberg in your D and no other.
Thats how Jung works out his D analysis, from a  very broad perspective, which is something  I'm short on.  Anyway i don't want to go futher, as you did not seem too keen on accepting  about my other ideas.
Which is why i'm letting you make the stabs.
interesting....


Racing mind. Only you would know.

not to mention, the same night i had several other dreams which some i can remember, some i can't..... mostly short, going from one thing to something else completely unrelated (or more likely, just hard to remember any connections).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 05, 2008, 01:51:44 PM
interesting....

not to mention, the same night i had several other dreams which some i can remember, some i can't..... mostly short, going from one thing to something else completely unrelated (or more likely, just hard to remember any connections).

That excellent book on schonberg was at Tulane's library. A most facinating man, but typical of most composers, not easy to get acquainted with. . Prokofiev tops the list.
So knowing something of schonberg's character may open a  clue to your D.
Now what did i say before. You have one main function over-riding, over shadowing your other 3, but to a  grevious extent. Which is whY i said that schonberg showing up in your D makes sense, and then changes  to ghost form, really driving the point home.
IOW you have such doubts, or you just don't believe in this theory,  , or lets be fair and say you failed to understand your pervious dreams, and so the previous message that that your main function is so over-ruling your conscious so as to pose as a  danger if continued,  so now the main function becomes even more of a  controling factor, a  ghost.  Now you are eally haunted.
No need to fret that you need an excorcisim ;D.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 05, 2008, 01:58:23 PM
Prokofiev tops the list.

What does this mean?
 

So knowing something of schonberg's character may open a  clue to your D.
Now what did i say before. You have one main function over-riding, over shadowing your other 3, but to a  grevious extent. Which is whY i said that schonberg showing up in your D makes sense, and then changes  to ghost form, really driving the point home.

Is it so difficult to spell out the word DREAM?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 05, 2008, 03:03:10 PM
What does this mean?
 
Is it so difficult to spell out the word DREAM?
dream dream dream
Meaning that Prokofiev had a  few hangups. Nothing personal. btw i love his music so is really no concern how he was in life. Do you know the story of how Shostakovich felt about Prokofiev? I can't recall exactly how it went, maybe someone else can post a  note. He was an odd  fellow.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 06, 2008, 06:51:31 AM
That excellent book on schonberg was at Tulane's library. A most facinating man, but typical of most composers, not easy to get acquainted with. . Prokofiev tops the list.
So knowing something of schonberg's character may open a  clue to your D.
Now what did i say before. You have one main function over-riding, over shadowing your other 3, but to a  grevious extent. Which is whY i said that schonberg showing up in your D makes sense, and then changes  to ghost form, really driving the point home.
IOW you have such doubts, or you just don't believe in this theory,  , or lets be fair and say you failed to understand your pervious dreams, and so the previous message that that your main function is so over-ruling your conscious so as to pose as a  danger if continued,  so now the main function becomes even more of a  controling factor, a  ghost.  Now you are eally haunted.
No need to fret that you need an excorcisim ;D.


hmmmmmm what is "main function?"


when i analyze dreams, i like to consider the 3 things that are most prevalent:
1. vision/pictures
2. emotion
3. sound


beyond that, sense of smell, touch, taste are very rare......
in my analysis, i try to relate each one to waking thoughts/events that usually happen the day before, and then are transformed into a story by means of subconscious relations (since the conscious mind is asleep).

In the Schoenberg dream, it would be best if i knew what happened before, that way i could tell where the dream was coming from.
But i thought of a few ideas yesterday:

1.image- Schoenberg, the image himself, balding and brown hair on the sides. I was watching King of the Hill for 15 min last night, and you know Bill?  ;D

(http://www.iconarchive.com/icons/enos-layuk/king-of-the-hill/Bill-Dauterive-128x128.png)

image (scenery)- took place at some aisle in Wal-Mart, but it sort of flip-flopped between an aisle in the library. This happens a lot- another example is when I dreamed of a field from an old school- it flip-flops between one school's field and another's, since they look almost the same. My mind can't make up it's mind which field it wants to think about. Anyone know what i'm talking about here?

2. emotion- just glad to talk to a hero of mine. Sometimes emotion can manipulate imagery, or even sound, but in this dream, no.

3. sound- nothing too important or memorable at all here.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 06, 2008, 07:02:54 AM
in my analysis, i try to relate each one to waking thoughts/events that usually happen the day before,

I dreamt last night that I was in a cafeteria piling my tray with heap after heap of various chocolate cakes / brownies....... and, as it happens, the day before I had been walking past the bakery section of my grocer, eying with envy the delicious chocolate cakes on display ..........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 06, 2008, 07:07:16 AM
2 (of 3 or 4) dreams last night-

1. The Time Travelling Sewer Ship
2. The Mansion of Snakes



1. I'm swimming through some ship, going through, at first, small tubes with sewer water, and then ending up in a big sewer, where i hop through the water and make it safely. It was a portal back in to time. (And i do it twice, except the second time, the water is filled with worms).  :o

2. Sitting outside a $4 million mansion, me and my mom are outside waiting when some lady opens the door. We go inside, and to the left she brings us to a huge garden. I walk ahead but notice there are all types of snakes everywhere, coming from the plants all around. I can't go anywhere, and i'm trapped, so i wake up.


Both of those dreams were only visual, and i can relate everything about them to other visual memories i've had, they're just combined in a strange way.



I dreamt last night that I was in a cafeteria piling my tray with heap after heap of various chocolate cakes / brownies....... and, as it happens, the day before I had been walking past the bakery section of my grocer, eying with envy the delicious chocolate cakes on display ..........
excellent Dm!
i think Freud would be proud of that  ;D
(well, at least he would be if it were repressed lol)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on February 06, 2008, 07:11:19 AM
I don't usually remember my dreams unless they're nightmares and I have those infrequently.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 06, 2008, 11:09:20 AM
I don't usually remember my dreams unless they're nightmares and I have those infrequently.

OK, so you say its really only the dark dreams you seem to recall.
keep us posted on any dream you have....Thanks
towards the end of the day, try to bring your thoughs , contact with people to a  minimum. Calm the mind before sleep, we may hook a  fish. Fish are spooked off easy you know.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 13, 2008, 06:55:12 AM
dreamed about playing a violin last night..... (i don't need an interpretation for this one, it's already obvious)

the funny thing is, i couldn't figure out which way it goes.... which way to bow it, hold it, etc. Sense of direction can often be pretty distorted in dreams.

A few other dreams, too, but more like distorted memories. Or maybe all dreams could be described simply as "distorted memories?" After all, all composing is distorted memories of sound, and dreams are like a re-composition of life.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 13, 2008, 07:27:54 AM
dreamed about playing a violin last night..... (i don't need an interpretation for this one, it's already obvious)

the funny thing is, i couldn't figure out which way it goes.... which way to bow it, hold it, etc. Sense of direction can often be pretty distorted in dreams.

A few other dreams, too, but more like distorted memories. Or maybe all dreams could be described simply as "distorted memories?" After all, all composing is distorted memories of sound, and dreams are like a re-composition of life.

something like that, for sure.
You trying to figure out the proper *technique* of the violin.
IOW you are aware that you need more sensation function, but can't figure out the understanding/knowledge of how sensation can be *played into* your life.
On the internet we all can get away with using only our main function. We pop in here, make a  comment, opinion, maybe worse a snide or insult ;D...then we are gone.
Little actual warm human contact. So feeling types like me, will spout out all sorts of nitpicking rants about why i believe my fav composers speak to the 21st C musical mind, moreso than some other big name composers. And then i get into a  haggle with others , in the end the conflict remains with neither side gaining any ground. Just drawing the lines deeper in the ground.
And off we go on our day with no real harm done. Just a  ruffled shirt collor, but no bloody confrontation had we rankled in person.
So you Greg can work fine the way you are on the Inet. But your dreams want you to see your other functions which only work in real live human contact.
see what i am getting at.
Sure computer realtionships can allow us to see our weaknesses and shadow, but the real change comes from intimate contacts.
 btw I see what you mean about the Shostakovich 7th, movements 2-4., not as personally engaging as Pettersson's syms.
Keep in mind Shostakovich is writing more from the perspecive of a actual time in history, a  actual russian peasantry that is brutalized by Hitler and Stalin. So Shostakovich tells of the war  and fascist Stalin throgh the sound of his music. He takes you into that horrific emotions of that epoch in his syms.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 13, 2008, 07:50:12 AM
Dreampt that I was playing poker with a sundry lot, including an archbishop .........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 13, 2008, 07:55:52 AM
something like that, for sure.
You trying to figure out the proper *technique* of the violin.
IOW you are aware that you need more sensation function, but can't figure out the understanding/knowledge of how sensation can be *played into* your life.
On the internet we all can get away with using only our main function. We pop in here, make a  comment, opinion, maybe worse a snide or insult ;D...then we are gone.
Little actual warm human contact. So feeling types like me, will spout out all sorts of nitpicking rants about why i believe my fav composers speak to the 21st C musical mind, moreso than some other big name composers. And then i get into a  haggle with others , in the end the conflict remains with neither side gaining any ground. Just drawing the lines deeper in the ground.
And off we go on our day with no real harm done. Just a  ruffled shirt collor, but no bloody confrontation had we rankled in person.
So you Greg can work fine the way you are on the Inet. But your dreams want you to see your other functions which only work in real live human contact.
see what i am getting at.
Sure computer realtionships can allow us to see our weaknesses and shadow, but the real change comes from intimate contacts.
 btw I see what you mean about the Shostakovich 7th, movements 2-4., not as personally engaging as Pettersson's syms.
Keep in mind Shostakovich is writing more from the perspecive of a actual time in history, a  actual russian peasantry that is brutalized by Hitler and Stalin. So Shostakovich tells of the war  and fascist Stalin throgh the sound of his music. He takes you into that horrific emotions of that epoch in his syms.
what do you mean by "function"? Actually, you may have a point which can be related here:


last night, while working, i was seriously thinking about which other hobbies/skills i should consider developing later on, since the big problem i have is that i have way too many interests, and getting good at everything i wish i could be good at is just impossible (there's only so many years in a life, only so much time in a day).

so i came to the conclusion that i should just keep on doing what i'm doing, but to develop it more and try to keep it endlessly exciting and surprising- and what i mean is music. Composing, studying scores and playing guitar....... but also, eventually, maybe even learning other instruments. That would surely keep it exciting and divert my mind from the other things i'd like to do. In my dream, i also had to touch the bow onto some black strip, kinda swiping it. But the interpretation of that part is very obvious, since i'm always swiping gift cards for customers, and they have the black strips- so the overall motion is similar to a violin. Also, this is at least the 3rd time i've dreamed of playing a violin....... the closest i got to ever playing one was at the (awful) little music shop i have around here, except the bow was messed up to where it makes no sound when you bow it.  :P So i was able to play a pizz. version of the first 8 notes of the Berg Violin Concerto, but not much else.

that's the explanation for the violin dream.



Dreampt that I was playing poker with a sundry lot, including an archbishop .........
does the archbishop have something to do with your avatar (or one of your old ones?) Since you just changed it, maybe that could've triggered something?
But of course, only you know if there is a connection there or not.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 13, 2008, 08:29:45 AM
Dreampt that I was playing poker with a sundry lot, including an archbishop .........

great dream, lots there to discuss.
has something to do with you and your concept/attitude towards religion. What i do not know.

Greg, i think you may be onto something.
But remember the violin may havea   dual meaning. practical function = learning the violin, and figurative, = the soul as violin.

Jung discusses several times the dream that Socrates had of a  muse suggesting he should *make more music*,, so Socrates got a  flute and went off to make the most aweful music. Jung says his muse meant that he should think alittle less and develope more along the feeling function.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 13, 2008, 08:40:56 AM
great dream, lots there to discuss.
has something to do with you and your concept/attitude towards religion. What i do not know.

Greg, i think you may be onto something.
But remember the violin may havea   dual meaning. practical function = learning the violin, and figurative, = the soul as violin.

Jung discusses several times the dream that Socrates had of a  muse suggesting he should *make more music*,, so Socrates got a  flute and went off to make the most aweful music. Jung says his muse meant that he should think alittle less and develope more along the feeling function.

ok, i see what you mean now
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 13, 2008, 08:43:21 AM
ok, i see what you mean now

u lie
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 13, 2008, 08:50:03 AM
u lie
well, i understood his function explanation.. the religion part i didn't get
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 13, 2008, 08:58:01 AM
well, i understood his function explanation.. the religion part i didn't get

I think Greg has a  intuition of what i said about his feeling function, as violin.

Now on DM's dream, *the religious function*. Jung uses this term. I think he's refering to Willam James, Varieties Of Religious Experience..
Not that DM has to *believe* that the religious function is something working in man;s psyche.
the fact is this religious function has been a  part of man's life for gawd knows how many centuries..
Though DM may not believe in any religious idea, fact is, some, if not most of his ancestors did.
its in his blood. ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 16, 2008, 04:45:58 PM
does anyone get dreams of spiders/snakes/worms all over the place often?
just last night, i was dreaming of being in my backyard and had to walk to the other side with snakes and worms ALL OVER the place.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 16, 2008, 06:18:36 PM
I'm reading Jung right now and he's going into the symbolism of the snake.

Worms i am not sure about.
Snakes in myths usually appear at times of a  change, a  confrontation.
Adam and eve confronts the snake in the garden.
Google snakes and myths, see what you come up with.

backyard, that area of your consciousness you are least in touch with.
Worms may mean the earthiness of your life, things below your consciousness.

...edit...
ahh well now i was just about to read, and the thought occured to me, why does your dream have so many snakes and even lower form such as the worm.

Not one snake, not one worm, but lots.

I was going to ask you if you participated on that *lets havea   free for all flame thread*
I just saw you were the last to respond. even so i knew almost surely you couldn;t resist sucha  topic.
There's your snake and worm symbolism.
you had the GMG board's dream, and specifically the members who also posted.
I kinda knew that topic was *dangerous territory*, asking for trouble. Your dream clearly shows it.

Now do me a favor, go back and count all the times you posted. Please provide me the count.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 16, 2008, 08:50:16 PM
does anyone get dreams of spiders/snakes/worms all over the place often?
just last night, i was dreaming of being in my backyard and had to walk to the other side with snakes and worms ALL OVER the place.

If it contains spiders and/or snakes, it's not a DREAM ........... rather, it's a NIGHTMARE ........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 17, 2008, 03:25:11 AM
I'm reading Jung right now and he's going into the symbolism of the snake.

Worms i am not sure about.
Snakes in myths usually appear at times of a  change, a  confrontation.
Adam and eve confronts the snake in the garden.
Google snakes and myths, see what you come up with.

backyard, that area of your consciousness you are least in touch with.
Worms may mean the earthiness of your life, things below your consciousness.

...edit...
ahh well now i was just about to read, and the thought occured to me, why does your dream have so many snakes and even lower form such as the worm.

Not one snake, not one worm, but lots.

I was going to ask you if you participated on that *lets havea   free for all flame thread*
I just saw you were the last to respond. even so i knew almost surely you couldn;t resist sucha  topic.
There's your snake and worm symbolism.
you had the GMG board's dream, and specifically the members who also posted.
I kinda knew that topic was *dangerous territory*, asking for trouble. Your dream clearly shows it.

Now do me a favor, go back and count all the times you posted. Please provide me the count.


11x!
I think you might have something there with this one. Because I also dreamed of a couple of the posters here, one of them being Iago (who was sitting at the side of my house, the side i was trying to reach). He had the same persona as this evil cartoon character from this show that i watch online. (there were others, too, but i can't remember who anymore). I guess it just tells me i spend too much time online, lol.

Just last night, again, i dreamed about spiders and bugs...... at least i'im pretty sure i did, again.  Wasn't this one of the more common....... ahem, i got it right now Dm, nightmares?  ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: (: premont :) on February 17, 2008, 06:04:56 AM
Post your dreams??

No, I would never dream of doing it
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 17, 2008, 06:49:16 AM
Post your dreams??

No, I would never dream of doing it
why not?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 17, 2008, 07:35:12 PM
11x!
I think you might have something there with this one. Because I also dreamed of a couple of the posters here, one of them being Iago (who was sitting at the side of my house, the side i was trying to reach). He had the same persona as this evil cartoon character from this show that i watch online. (there were others, too, but i can't remember who anymore).



And then you say that some GMG members were actually in that dream. and you posted ELEVEN TIMES on that *lets havea  flame party* topic.
I think i nailed that one.
I had a  good hunch your dream and the fact that you participated on that topic were connected.

but as i said in another topic today, I'm will not be around here much.
read my post on Harry's topic, 'does music help us in our emotional life".
The flip side to that is, 'can music affect us in ways we are not aware, negatively, holds us back"
If i listened to Beethoven and many others besides, that would bea   regression for me. I would be agiated in spirits and my dreams would reveal that i should refrain from listening to Beethoven.
IOW dreams tell us the truth about who we really are. dreams do not lie, we lie to ourselves.

paul

I can't post as often, as i need to concentrate my psychic energy in building up a  defence against the theives who want my possessions.  So i am not ina  good mood about how the police sit back and get fat ona  special tax lakeview pays for "PROTECTION", and just let the burglars hit at will.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 17, 2008, 08:12:01 PM

IOW dreams tell us the truth about who we really are. dreams do not lie, we lie to ourselves.


Perfectly written.


I can't post as often, as i need to concentrate my psychic energy in building up a  defence against the theives who want my possessions.  So i am not ina  good mood about how the police sit back and get fat ona  special tax lakeview pays for "PROTECTION", and just let the burglars hit at will.


Just take some shotguns and shoot 'em up!  >:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on February 17, 2008, 08:21:35 PM
Perfectly written.

Well, he did forget to capitalize the first letter of the first word of a sentence. :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 17, 2008, 08:26:28 PM
Well, he did forget to capitalize the first letter of the first word of a sentence. :)
now it's fancy:
"Dreams tell us the truth about who we really are.... dreams do not lie, we lie to ourselves."

 0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 18, 2008, 06:26:08 AM
Perfectly written.

Just take some shotguns and shoot 'em up!  >:D

Well not so perfect as i forgot to add, "dreams, in a  very strange language, tell us about ourselves/society"

Yes, shoot them up, since the courts and police are not doing their job.
We need a  new prison system/more jails, etc.

Go to Harry's topic, "does music give us life"

Do you see where someone tells me
"oh but in 1858 there were natural disasters and crimes as today"

See how I respond.

I had some odd dreams last night, gotta think about these. I can bea  complex thinker sometimes, and maybe my dreams are saying, "so you like to figure out your world?, OK think about this one, AND it has to do with YOUR life, Mr Smarty pants!!"
Dreams really are steps ahead of us and keep us in ck.
Maybe tonights dreams will help me make sense of last nights.  ??? ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 18, 2008, 08:53:33 AM
Well not so perfect as i forgot to add, "dreams, in a  very strange language, tell us about ourselves/society"

Yes, shoot them up, since the courts and police are not doing their job.
We need a  new prison system/more jails, etc.

Go to Harry's topic, "does music give us life"

Do you see where someone tells me
"oh but in 1858 there were natural disasters and crimes as today"

See how I respond.

I had some odd dreams last night, gotta think about these. I can bea  complex thinker sometimes, and maybe my dreams are saying, "so you like to figure out your world?, OK think about this one, AND it has to do with YOUR life, Mr Smarty pants!!"
Dreams really are steps ahead of us and keep us in ck.
Maybe tonights dreams will help me make sense of last nights.  ??? ::)
yep, saw your post.

last night had a dream that's pretty enigmatic, but i suppose a good explanation would probably just be that it's from TV/video games/movies. In fact, I'm almost absolutely certain it was influenced by that one movie with the singing penguins that i saw months ago. :P

at first, it involved images of castles on islands, but can't remember any details (sure it's from TV)...... then, i'm like a fish or something swimming with a bunch of other fish to some destination (an island?). Or maybe I was a bird? can't remember. During the journey, a bird/fish? was eaten by some dumb big fish.
On the way back, i'm flying (maybe as a bird?) and along the way there's a flying reindeer. Everyone/every bird realizes that was out of place and unusual. All I can remember.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 18, 2008, 09:51:37 AM
Well, he did forget to capitalize the first letter of the first word of a sentence. :)

perfectly critiqued ........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 18, 2008, 05:14:13 PM
In a dream last night God brought my mother to me for a visit,she arrived with two angels,God began a long diatribe against me,he claimed I had failed my mother etc etc...I walked over to one of the angels and asked him if he knew "Hark,what thunders round me roll" from Handel's Athalia,he said he did so I asked if he would sing it for me, he said yes and began to sing.
Then I woke up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 18, 2008, 06:33:24 PM
In a dream last night God brought my mother to me for a visit,she arrived with two angels,God began a long diatribe against me,he claimed I had failed my mother etc etc...I walked over to one of the angels and asked him if he knew "Hark,what thunders round me roll" from Handel's Athalia,he said he did so I asked if he would sing it for me, he said yes and began to sing.
Then I woke up.
what did God look like?
A muscular old giant guy with a long beard of grey hair?

(i guess that's the first image that comes to mind for me since He's usually drawn that way...)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 18, 2008, 06:37:12 PM
In a dream last night God brought my mother to me for a visit,she arrived with two angels,God began a long diatribe against me,he claimed I had failed my mother etc etc...I walked over to one of the angels and asked him if he knew "Hark,what thunders round me roll" from Handel's Athalia,he said he did so I asked if he would sing it for me, he said yes and began to sing.
Then I woke up.

interesting, very personal dream.
I mean only you could give us some details and help taking the dream further.
I do not know Handel's Athalia. What does that section mean to you?
Did you have some unresolved issues with your mother before she passed?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 18, 2008, 06:37:57 PM
what did God look like?
A muscular old giant guy with a long beard of grey hair?

(i guess that's the first image that comes to mind for me since He's usually drawn that way...)

He looked just like Johannes Brahms

(http://www.ofletters.com/composers/brahms.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: paulb on February 18, 2008, 06:42:25 PM
Looking at that image of Brahms, no wonder his music never struck me more than the surface.
He could pass as some old church bishop.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 18, 2008, 06:45:02 PM
He looked just like Johannes Brahms

(http://www.ofletters.com/composers/brahms.jpg)
that's God the Holy Spirit.....

here's God the Father.....

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7274/mahler1892re5.jpg)

and God the Son.....

(http://www.scena.org/lsm/sm5-7/images/Arnold-Schoenberg.jpg)

combine the three and you just might get a mess...... best in 3 parts, i suppose.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on February 18, 2008, 07:51:34 PM
combine the three and you just might get a mess...... best in 3 parts, i suppose.

...or Alban Berg.

I've been playing Brian Eno's Neroli while I sleep lately, always just below the threshold of hearing. Shortly before I wake up, I hear it, or half-hear it. The other morning the parts I could hear (or half-hear) became the basis for the music in my dream, though I can't remember what it sounded like. 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BorisG on February 18, 2008, 07:58:32 PM
(http://www.relentlesscore.com/Boardmasters%20The%20Golf.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 19, 2008, 08:31:42 AM
what did God look like?


John Barrymore.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harry on February 19, 2008, 08:37:11 AM
John Barrymore.

No, no, Scarlet Johansson, dear Muriel, that's how God's benevolence looks like! ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 19, 2008, 08:37:56 AM

I do not know Handel's Athalia. What does that section mean to you?

 He sings"He now denies to save ,open o earth and be my grave"

 My mother passed away 35 years ago after a lengthy battle with booze and pills.
 
 I haven't the slightest idea what it might mean nevertheless I did have the gumption to ask an angel to sing!I just knew he would be familiar with this tune.And a thundering great tune it is too.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 19, 2008, 08:41:56 AM
Looking at that image of Brahms, no wonder his music never struck me more than the surface.
He could pass as some old church bishop.

 When Brahms was just a lad he had a real baby face that lasted him well into his thirties,he finally grew a beard to cover his cute dimples.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 19, 2008, 09:09:02 AM
When Brahms was just a lad he had a real baby face that lasted him well into his thirties,he finally grew a beard to cover his cute dimples.
is that what he told you?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 19, 2008, 11:12:25 AM
is that what he told you?
I read it in Jan Swafford's Bio of Brahms.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EmpNapoleon on February 19, 2008, 03:46:30 PM
No, no, Scarlet Johansson, dear Muriel, that's how God's benevolence looks like! ;D

Holy statement!  Go to Wal Mart to find his malevolence.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 19, 2008, 08:10:17 PM
I read it in Jan Swafford's Bio of Brahms.

[quote author = Wikipedia]Jan Swafford (born 1946) is an American composer and author who teaches composition, theory, and musicology at the Boston Conservatory and writing at Tufts University. He earned his B.A. from Harvard College and his M.M.A. and D.M.A. from the Yale School of Music. He has written respected musical biographies of Charles Ives and Johannes Brahms, as well as the introductory Vintage Guide to Classical Music, and is often heard as a musical commentator on NPR.[/quote]
Maybe he's a time traveler? Or a reincarnation of Brahms?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 20, 2008, 11:05:32 AM
Maybe he's a time traveler? Or a reincarnation of Brahms?

 Greg, have you read Swafford on Brahms or Ives,I think the Ives would be more to your taste.You do read books don't you?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 20, 2008, 12:24:03 PM
You do read books don't you?

Greg's favorite books:  "A Concise History of Video Gaming" and "An Anthology of Video Game Music"
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 20, 2008, 06:07:34 PM
Greg's favorite books:  "A Concise History of Video Gaming" and "An Anthology of Video Game Music"
actually, I've never heard of them

Greg, have you read Swafford on Brahms or Ives,I think the Ives would be more to your taste.You do read books don't you?

well, there are a few types of books I read out of interest.
That does include books about composers....... i've read only a few, though..... 2 about Prokofiev (including his autobiography), 1 about Mahler (unfortunately a very boring one), and 1 that was a collection of correspondences btwn Schoenberg and Berg (which was somewhat boring, especially due to Berg taking up pages and pages of butt kissing). A book about Shostakovich would be very interesting..... the Prokofiev books I couldn't put down.

but yeah, i don't read much because in my spare time i could be composing or studying scores, for example, and reading a lot of books can take a while..... although sometimes it may be tempting.... I've never read the Chronicles of Narnia, but it looks fun, and my little brother has the whole set. But time is valuable......

i'll see if the library has the Brahms book...... usually they don't have much, and i don't expect anything since i've moved out into hillbilly county now  :P


edit: just checked the catalog.... they don't have it, of course, the Brahms of the Ives.  :P
Wouldn't be surprised if they had it in the library in Orlando, where I used to get the composer bios....
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lady Chatterley on February 20, 2008, 06:19:40 PM
actually, I've never heard of them
well, there are a few types of books I read out of interest.
That does include books about composers....... i've read only a few, though..... 2 about Prokofiev (including his autobiography), 1 about Mahler (unfortunately a very boring one), and 1 that was a collection of correspondences btwn Schoenberg and Berg (which was somewhat boring, especially due to Berg taking up pages and pages of butt kissing). A book about Shostakovich would be very interesting..... the Prokofiev books I couldn't put down.

but yeah, i don't read much because in my spare time i could be composing or studying scores, for example, and reading a lot of books can take a while..... although sometimes it may be tempting.... I've never read the Chronicles of Narnia, but it looks fun, and my little brother has the whole set. But time is valuable......

i'll see if the library has the Brahms book...... usually they don't have much, and i don't expect anything since i've moved out into hillbilly county now  :P


edit: just checked the catalog.... they don't have it, of course, the Brahms of the Ives.  :P
Wouldn't be surprised if they had it in the library in Orlando, where I used to get the composer bios....

Oh good I'm glad that you will read books on composers.I quite understand that your time is valuable,I struggle to find enough time for reading myself .
Regarding Prokofiev,did you read in the bio of his car accident poor darling nearly killed himself and his wife and kids in a bad one in Paris.Couldn't play piano for months!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 20, 2008, 06:33:39 PM
Oh good I'm glad that you will read books on composers.I quite understand that your time is valuable,I struggle to find enough time for reading myself .
Regarding Prokofiev,did you read in the bio of his car accident poor darling nearly killed himself and his wife and kids in a bad one in Paris.Couldn't play piano for months!
aggggghhhhh...... i actually don't remember that part. You got me with that one. But still, there are so many things I remember reading in those 2 books.

this is the bio that I REALLY REALLY REALLY like:  ;D

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41F19Z92XTL._AA240_.jpg)

there's so so so many fascinating moments in these two books, i'll try to think of a few....

-His autobiography leaves out important stuff, including the rest of his life..... he also never mentions any of his wives, just once that he "got married". (maybe it was written before his second marriage?)
His relationship with the ladies was one of the most interesting things in the biography. At first he seems like an alien, but then he gets a girl to argue with her parents, trying to convince them to let her marry him (though they never do).
-Then there's the part where someone reports seeing Prokofiev alone on stage, sitting down and then all of a sudden bursting with energy and in a panic and he just runs out. Kinda weird lol.
-In his autobio, he arrives in America and has so much change in his pockets that's he scared they might burst open, and then he'd be the "laughing stock of America."
-When he remarried, he called his ex-wife a "beautiful desert"....... love that description lol.


so much more to that, too...... amazing stuff, now i feel like reading it again (even though i can't)  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 26, 2008, 08:04:47 AM
last night, had what they classify as an "epic" dream (happens to me maybe 3 or 4 times a year?), which is just one reeeeeeeeaaaaalllly long, detailed dream. It was also extremely symbolic, and i think it was partly influenced by reading posts here.  :P
Also, I'll try to do my own system of interpretation by references.......



Starts off with a bright, sunny day, I'm outside with one or two other people. (The scenery is my house and a huge, endless field in front.) To the right of my house, me and the other people (either posters here or coworkers) were disputing about something, i think it was possibly a cup on a dishwasher, and someone might've taken it. Then the sky starts turning dark.

We go inside and shut all the windows but some apocalyptic chemical reaction in the sky takes place, it's like it turns into this brown (with black spots) color, while exploding like popcorn in a microwave, and eventually becomes daytime, and light, again.

And so, we get to go back outside but we notice that far away there is still some darkness, in a certain area, so we shouldn't go there. THEND


Prologue: driving down the interstate with my parents, noticing the sky is mostly clear, but to the left there is some type of big, black (yet transparent) cloud hovering over a building. It might've turned into a storm or tornado or something.


Quote from:  interpretation by references
Scenery: looked a lot like a Final Fantasy game, except the house was clearly my old house that i used to live in until a year ago. It's like I just imagined looking from the front of it, but deleted the other houses nearby and replaced it with a huge field.

Neighbors: they were my old Muslim neighbors, that had a huge family.... they weren't really bad, but in that scenario getting into a dispute was comparable to getting into a dispute at work with a customer. Obviously, not something pleasant, and I think that's what triggered the

Darkness: darkness in the sky, which represents negative emotions.

Chemical reaction in the sky: the colors were exactly like that of the last boss in a favorite game of mine, the boss named "Juggernaut". Exact same pattern.

Faraway darkness: Reminds me right away of M.Night Shamalan's The Village, where you "can't play in the woods". In this case, you "can't play in the darkness", although a couple of kids go for it anyways. There's also wolves that walk around, obviously I got that from Final Fantasy.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on February 26, 2008, 12:19:12 PM
but some apocalyptic chemical reaction in the sky takes place, it's like it turns into this brown (with black spots) color, while exploding like popcorn in a microwave, and eventually becomes daytime, and light, again.

Probably an electro-chemical reaction, to the extent that lightening was involved ...........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 26, 2008, 12:27:03 PM
Probably an electro-chemical reaction, to the extent that lightening was involved ...........
that's probably what it should've been......

but it was like this instead:


http://videos.emule.com/play/legend-of-legaia-31---lets-take-juggernaut-for-a-walk-(ZgJkQAmeAQE

play the video, and by the 13 second mark, you can see the brown texture that is what I dreamed of that was flashing outside. By about 9'30" it's the clearest, all around, when they go inside the thing......

I think "Juggernaut" would be a possible orchestral work that i'd write someday, to describe this beast- the most hideous out there. And of course, it'd have a big, thrashing, mysterious sound to it.  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on March 21, 2008, 06:16:12 AM
another dream of me playing a violin!  ::)

I might have to ask for one this Christmas, even if it's really cheap and I have to pay for half of it. Reminds me of years ago when I dreamed of playing Final Fantasy IX 7 different times!  :o
That was after renting the game, so I had no choice but to ask for it for Christmas just so the dreams would stop! (and they did)

also dreamed about meeting a couple people here.  >:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on March 23, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
this wasn't a dream.... but it seemed like it.

i was thinking over some Russian (from the "Teach Yourself" book from the library i just picked up for fun), when these people who were speaking Russian came over to check out at my register!  :o
(ok, it could've been Ukrainian, too, maybe Polish though it didn't sound like it to me)

it was like 2 different couples one after another...... i guess Mexicans hang out in 3s and Russians hang out in 4s (split by 2), maybe?

the guy needed an English grammar book, too... he was like, "it no read?" and the way he said a couple of phrases was actually, if you think about it, pretty hilarious. But of course, he might've talked that way to show me he has some difficulties understanding, which is in my opinion, a good move.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on March 23, 2008, 05:53:23 PM
the guy needed an English grammar book, too...

Imagine that ..........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: c#minor on March 23, 2008, 06:22:38 PM
I never remember any of my dreams. I really would like to but i go blank the second i get out of bed. :(
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mozart on March 23, 2008, 06:37:08 PM
I really think I just don't have dreams most of the time. I woke up a few days ago and finished a thought I had before going to sleep, like while sleeping my thinking was on pause.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: c#minor on March 23, 2008, 06:49:54 PM
i am pretty sure everyone has dreams every night. Some of us just do not remember them.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on March 24, 2008, 12:18:20 PM
i am pretty sure everyone has dreams every night. Some of us just do not remember them.
Exactly, that's what they say.
And sometimes you don't even remember them until later in the day when something triggers the thought (an association that leads to the thought). (Usually, though, the memory of the dreams just fade throughout the day and you can only remember by reminding yourself several times.)

So it's weird how it can be in your working memory, but if try to recall the dream, it doesn't work by asking yourself, "What'd I dream last night?" but instead by thinking of something related to the actual content of the dream.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 24, 2008, 01:47:46 PM
Two interesting dreams, with the same overall theme.

1) Last night: not quite a full dream, but I imagined being in the NW US...... why? Because I recalled the taxi driver a few months ago telling me about how Wyoming was his favorite state to drive in. I remembered that and thought that I don't really know much at all about the northwest US, so I dreamed of being there somehow. Same theme as previous dreams.... going to places I've never seen, or hardly thought of before- even if I have to make up places, i'll do it.

2) mmmmm maybe i'll post this one later. I made up the word "Kokoyoyododo" in my dream. That's all I'll say for now. If you do a google search, it's nowhere else on the internet.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BorisG on April 24, 2008, 02:12:08 PM
(http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/notorious_betty/02.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 24, 2008, 03:17:53 PM
I like black.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich on April 24, 2008, 10:39:40 PM
Last night I dreamt, Till Lindemann of Rammstein died. Now at least we know why no new Rammstein album appeared for pretty long time now...

(http://www.iracheta.com/Rammstein3.jpeg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 25, 2008, 12:55:17 PM
Maybe he got shot in the head like Dimebag Darrell? 


(expect this time by the FBI)  :o  $:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on April 25, 2008, 01:01:19 PM
I've had a recurring, Lucio Fulci-an nightmare about zombies. They are coming to eat me, and they always eat whomsoever is around me. But everytime they get close enough to me, I force myself to wake up. I wake up, terribly disturbed with my heart pounding. More than once, I woke up in yet another zombie dream. I am scared if they ever catch up in my dream, I'll wake up...dead.

bum-BOM-bubba-bubba-bum-"Wake up deeeeead"
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 25, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
I've had a recurring, Lucio Fulci-an nightmare about zombies. They are coming to eat me, and they always eat whomsoever is around me. But everytime they get close enough to me, I force myself to wake up. I wake up, terribly disturbed with my heart pounding. More than once, I woke up in yet another zombie dream. I am scared if they ever catch up in my dream, I'll wake up...dead.

bum-BOM-bubba-bubba-bum-"Wake up deeeeead"
Here's my interpretation..... you need to stop watching so many horror movies!  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on April 25, 2008, 01:04:09 PM
Here's my interpretation..... you need to stop watching so many horror movies!  ;D


Zombies have always just scared me silly. There's something about them that really hits me on a primordial level. Maybe it's because I saw the original "Dawn of the Dead" at 15.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 25, 2008, 01:09:12 PM
Could be.
The only "things" (creatures) that really scare me (or at least, used to but not really much more) are cockroaches and spiders. The earliest memory of spiders I had was when my dad was talking about black widows, how poisonous they are and then we saw one.
Also, the idea of being in the middle of the ocean and seeing a blue whale is probably the scariest thought ever.

Probably when you were 3 and saw zombies in cartoons, you weren't scared.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on April 25, 2008, 01:13:05 PM
Could be.
The only "things" (creatures) that really scare me (or at least, used to but not really much more) are cockroaches and spiders. The earliest memory of spiders I had was when my dad was talking about black widows, how poisonous they are and then we saw one.
Also, the idea of being in the middle of the ocean and seeing a blue whale is probably the scariest thought ever.

Probably when you were 3 and saw zombies in cartoons, you weren't scared.


Hey, that thing about the blue whale occured to me as being scary when I was really young. In fact, it still seems creepy to me. Imagine a massive alien spacecraft (about 1/4 mile high and half that around) coming down from the sky whilst way out on a private fishing boat.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 25, 2008, 01:17:55 PM

Hey, that thing about the blue whale occured to me as being scary when I was really young. In fact, it still seems creepy to me. Imagine a massive alien spacecraft (about 1/4 mile high and half that around) coming down from the sky whilst way out on a private fishing boat.
And then you'd have nowhere to run.
Wow. Probably what really happens to people lost at sea.....
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on April 25, 2008, 01:45:03 PM
And then you'd have nowhere to run.
Wow. Probably what really happens to people lost at sea.....


(Twilight Zone music plays, including a Mahler whip at each upbeat) "Vehl-come to zee Bair-moodah Try-angel maing! You no go home now I theeenk!"
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 25, 2008, 01:46:47 PM

(Twilight Zone music plays, including a Mahler whip at each upbeat) "Vehl-come to zee Bair-moodah Try-angel maing! You no go home now I theeenk!"
Wow, that sounds like a pretty twisted nightmare  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: c#minor on April 28, 2008, 07:11:31 AM
Has anyone here been able to have "lucid dreams"?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 28, 2008, 07:58:35 AM
Has anyone here been able to have "lucid dreams"?
I have, after a couple of months of steady lucid dream "training" (basically, just using certain techniques). But it was only a couple of times, and short, too. It's notable as an extremely hard task, after all.......
there are times when I simply realize i'm dreaming, and just wake up, normally (i guess this is common). Haven't been using the techniques much since I already have enough to think about.... :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on April 30, 2008, 06:31:57 PM
Has anyone here been able to have "lucid dreams"?

My most lucid dreams are always about beehives .......... (and beehive pics) .............
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 30, 2008, 06:41:27 PM
My most lucid dreams are always about beehives .......... (and beehive pics) .............
Let me guess, it's always about seeing Poju and/or Elgar skipping into the forest, humming a theme from the Elgar 2nd, and then running straight into a beehive. Eh?......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on April 30, 2008, 06:48:19 PM
Let me guess, it's always about seeing Poju and/or Elgar skipping into the forest, humming a theme from the Elgar 2nd, and then running straight into a beehive. Eh?......

Actually, it's a legless figure with the head of Poju and the torso of Elgar ..........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on May 01, 2008, 11:36:12 AM
Actually, it's a legless figure with the head of Poju and the torso of Elgar ..........


dying
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on May 01, 2008, 11:39:30 AM
My dreams are usually dull. Like going to the mall, or something.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on May 01, 2008, 11:42:45 AM
My dreams are usually dull. Like going to the mall, or something.


At least there aren't zombies there!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on May 01, 2008, 11:44:27 AM

At least there aren't zombies there!

I read and write about that stuff every day, so that's probably why my dreams are the opposite.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on May 01, 2008, 11:59:18 AM
My dreams are usually dull. Like going to the mall, or something.

My shopping mall dreams typically involve legless Poju/Elgar creatures .........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on May 01, 2008, 12:08:27 PM
My shopping mall dreams typically involve legless Poju/Elgar creatures .........


NOOOooOOOOO!

dying again
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 02, 2008, 06:31:33 AM
I had a nightmare last night, but I can't recall the details. I do know what triggered it, though.

When I was coming out of Lowe's at about 9:40 last night to go to my car, a coworker asked me if a certain car with its lights on looked suspicious. Then I pointed and asked, "Which? That one?" He said not to point, and that people could be desperate to get inside to rob the place, and it had been outside for 30 min. That's pretty suspicious.

So after driving past it (i could see someone inside), I put it out of my mind for the next two hours and after falling asleep, i seemed to have remembered it again- except the whole dream had something to do with them "getting" me. I'm pretty sure they killed everyone in some house somewhere, though i don't remember the details.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: springrite on May 02, 2008, 06:37:29 AM
Last night I had a dream that I was at Harry's music room in Holland, listening to a Gu Qin recording, followed by Lortzing's opera Die Wildschultz. I remember there was a part where Harry explained to me how German is so similar to Dutch, and showed me using the libretto as example.

It's a shame I woke up before we got into more recordings. In my dream, Harry looked like Tchaikovky in his avatar!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 02, 2008, 06:39:52 AM
Last night I had a dream that I was at Harry's music room in Holland, listening to a Gu Qin recording, followed by Lortzing's opera Die Wildschultz. I remember there was a part where Harry explained to me how German is so similar to Dutch, and showed me using the libretto as example.

It's a shame I woke up before we got into more recordings. In my dream, Harry looked like Tchaikovky in his avatar!
;D
that's funny........ every now and again, i have dreams about GMG (or GMG members), too.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harry on May 02, 2008, 07:00:12 AM
I once dreamt about Greta but I will not go into details......  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harry on May 02, 2008, 07:02:00 AM
Last night I had a dream that I was at Harry's music room in Holland, listening to a Gu Qin recording, followed by Lortzing's opera Die Wildschultz. I remember there was a part where Harry explained to me how German is so similar to Dutch, and showed me using the libretto as example.

It's a shame I woke up before we got into more recordings. In my dream, Harry looked like Tchaikovky in his avatar!

Good heavens Paul, I look much younger, and am in fact younger as T in this picture, although I haven't the foggiest idea how old he is on this picture. ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 05, 2008, 07:09:11 AM
a couple of very interesting dreams:

night before last night-

1) with my dad. Walking down the street, except it was a street without any cars. It was a very wide road with about 20 small lanes, each 3 feet wide, and we stood at one of the lanes, waiting for the traffic light to change so we could walk to the one to the right. Et cetera until we could cross the street. Yeah, I know, strange!  ;D

2) my dad again, we were in a car driving through some parking lot and he put on some instrumental rock track that almost sounded like Carlos Santana, but also a bit like Joe Satriani, too. Can't remember the rest now, though....


last night-

1) my little brother bought a Gibson. Somehow, in the dream, the guitar appeared fascinating, even though i don't really care for Gibsons. But, on closer inspection, it only had four thick strings, like a bass. And the next was too long- i could even reach the first fret!  :o
So I asked him about it and he said it's not a bass, it's a steel guitar.

wtf!  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on May 05, 2008, 12:24:16 PM
a couple of very interesting dreams:

night before last night-

1) with my dad. Walking down the street, except it was a street without any cars. It was a very wide road with about 20 small lanes, each 3 feet wide, and we stood at one of the lanes, waiting for the traffic light to change so we could walk to the one to the right. Et cetera until we could cross the street. Yeah, I know, strange!  ;D

2) my dad again, we were in a car driving through some parking lot and he put on some instrumental rock track that almost sounded like Carlos Santana, but also a bit like Joe Satriani, too. Can't remember the rest now, though....


last night-

1) my little brother bought a Gibson. Somehow, in the dream, the guitar appeared fascinating, even though i don't really care for Gibsons. But, on closer inspection, it only had four thick strings, like a bass. And the next was too long- i could even reach the first fret!  :o
So I asked him about it and he said it's not a bass, it's a steel guitar.

wtf!  ;D




You don't like guitars and cars, do you Greg?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on May 05, 2008, 01:06:29 PM
wtf!  ;D

Indeed!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 06, 2008, 04:59:38 AM



You don't like guitars and cars, do you Greg?
DON'T like?
wtf, how'd you come up with that explanation?  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Haffner on May 06, 2008, 08:32:50 AM
DON'T like?
wtf, how'd you come up with that explanation?  ;D


I don't know (laughing). I'm getting the strong impression you especially don't like guitars  ;) ;D.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 06, 2008, 02:58:13 PM

I don't know (laughing). I'm getting the strong impression you especially don't like guitars  ;) ;D.
i know, they're so lame, man.....
almost as lame as computers....

(type type)

huh
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 10, 2008, 02:15:07 PM
Last night, dreamed of being in the mall. Walked a bit, and a basketball court was inside (like a part of it). Saw two teams playing in the playoffs, when one of the players (Zydranus Ilgauskas) (however you spell his name) fell on his face and broke it, blood everywhere, even busted open his chest. He might've even died.


My interpretation is that it stems from reading about guy on the Pistons who wears the face mask (well, not reading but just seeing his picture and wondering what happened to make him have to wear the mask, then discarding the thought until it stayed in my subconscious , ready to be dreamed).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 10, 2008, 02:17:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BDydr%C5%ABnas_Ilgauskas

"Žydrūnas Ilgauskas"....... hmmmmmm....... says he was out a season for injuring his right foot. And in my dream i injured him everywhere but there.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on May 11, 2008, 03:06:36 AM
My interpretation is that it stems from reading about guy on the Pistons who wears the face mask (well, not reading but just seeing his picture and wondering what happened to make him have to wear the mask, then discarding the thought until it stayed in my subconscious , ready to be dreamed).

Thank you for placing your dream in context, Greg.  That is very helpful.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 11, 2008, 04:01:59 AM
Thank you for placing your dream in context, Greg.  That is very helpful.
i try......


speaking of blood everywhere.......

last night, my dog's foot was bleeding like crazy- it stopped for awhile, but when he got on the couch and jumped over me, blood spilled onto my head. It was funny.
Then he went back into the kitchen and blood was everywhere again lol.

So my mom dreamed that the dog bled to death  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 11, 2008, 04:07:26 AM
I had a lot of dreams last night......

1) had something to do with being in the mall and the walking until I reached Japan (still in the mall)

2) being with this blond girl who i pretended to really like, though i realized i wasn't actually crazy about her. Just a substitute for someone from real life with someone from a movie I was watching at night (with dog blood on my head).  ;D

3) walking in a field, and I come across a LARGE ostrich (the size of a building). I touch its foot and it says to me, "people normally shouldn't do that since it's dangerous." But he was nice and didn't kick me to death (although i really wouldn't mind if he did kick me to death, as long as it was quick).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on May 18, 2008, 04:48:37 AM
had a lucid dream or something........
woke up at about 5:30 to the dog whining, went back to sleep (sort of, more like a state of mind knowing i was awake but just thinking at the same time, my thoughts more clear than normal) and woke up again 8:30. Two main parts i could remember:

1) sound only..... had some big contemporary orchestral work playing in my mind. The only thing was, it was as clear as if i had on stereo. (This has happened before with other music). At first I thought it was Adams Harmonielehre, but later I realized it was most likely Lindberg's Kinetics. Or perhaps the most likely truth was that it was something i made up myself, since of course i can't remember the details....
so i threw on Kinetics just now and don't think it's from that piece. But man, that is some awesome stuff! Too bad his later stuff isn't nearly as exciting.....


2) swimming in the ocean.... since i'm not a good swimmer, decided to practice. Felt real, all I can say......


So...... I'll have to experiment with this. Starting tomorrow, alarm off at 5:30.... Don't fall asleep, but daydream instead. Focus on clear thinking, instead of the random and quick-paced abstract imagery that comes to mind when normally falling asleep at night.

Although if it doesn't work, it might be due to something else. I couldn't explain, but somehow yesterday it felt like a part of my brain just stopped working, starting sometime around the afternoon and lasting throughout the day. I think it was somewhere in the left side, the part that is more sensitive and critical, or something, but there's no way to really tell. Maybe it's the part that Freud describes as the "censor" in our dream imagery. It just makes me wonder, the way the mind can work- does 1) the subconscious literally store every image perfectly but this "censor" messes it up or 2) the subconscious doesn't store the information right, but more of an abstract way.

And it was nice to have a lucid dream without saying to yourself constantly throughout the day, "Am I dreaming?" which has possibly only once given me a lucid dream. But I think I used the same trick anyways, waking up 4 or 5 am, and going back to "sleep".
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ChamberNut on June 03, 2008, 04:33:54 AM
I have recurring dreams of sharks.

A few nights ago, I dreamed I was on a very large boat with hundreds of floors, with one large shark slowly attacking strategically different parts of the boat.  The shark would also hold conversations with people, giving tips on what one could do or should have done to try and save themselves from it (the shark).  ???

I have always found sharks very fascinating, but I'm not sure of what their significance are in dreams.  :-\
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 08:48:08 AM
I have recurring dreams of sharks.

A few nights ago, I dreamed I was on a very large boat with hundreds of floors, with one large shark slowly attacking strategically different parts of the boat.  The shark would also hold conversations with people, giving tips on what one could do or should have done to try and save themselves from it (the shark).  ???

I have always found sharks very fascinating, but I'm not sure of what their significance are in dreams.  :-\
That's a cool dream!
Do you mean "fascinating" as in frightening, just "amazing" or both frightening and amazing?
A shark could be a symbol of anything, really, maybe even an abstract concept. To me it sounds like it could just something that's gnawing at the boat (and you have to figure this one out, too). So just do some thinking, maybe it's just something "eating you up" that you might not be aware of or are avoiding?
Title: Dream your posts
Post by: mn dave on June 03, 2008, 09:01:21 AM
(http://earthsci.org/education/fieldsk/container/03_posts.jpg)
Title: Re: Dream your posts
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 09:17:12 AM
(http://earthsci.org/education/fieldsk/container/03_posts.jpg)
:'(
i don't even wanna see another one of those......
i wonder how many i've scanned today? (not to mention the barcode only reads those just over half the time)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: karlhenning on June 03, 2008, 09:53:50 AM
Dreamt of composing last night (something which I do not often dream doing).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
Dreamt of composing last night (something which I do not often dream doing).
wow, i can't think of a time i have dreamed of composing!
must be a mixture of the timing- what you're working and when that would give that sort of outcome a chance.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ChamberNut on June 03, 2008, 10:30:30 AM
That's a cool dream!
Do you mean "fascinating" as in frightening, just "amazing" or both frightening and amazing?
A shark could be a symbol of anything, really, maybe even an abstract concept. To me it sounds like it could just something that's gnawing at the boat (and you have to figure this one out, too). So just do some thinking, maybe it's just something "eating you up" that you might not be aware of or are avoiding?

Both.  I think sharks, in general, are amazing creatures.  Yet, at the same time, some of them can be dangerous, and frightening.  Most of the time, the frightening and dangerous element of sharks are severely blown out of proportion.

It's probably anxiety over my upcoming nuptials.   ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 10:33:00 AM
It's probably anxiety over my upcoming nuptials.   ;D
lol, don't tell your fiancee that!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ChamberNut on June 03, 2008, 10:36:13 AM
lol, don't tell your fiancee that!

LOL, I already had told her.   ;D  She knows about the recurring shark dreams.

She's probably just as anxious or even more so than I am.  This being her 2nd wedding.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 10:46:33 AM
hmmmmm you'd think after the 1st time, you wouldn't be nervous......
but of course, i guess that'd be bad reasoning.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: knight66 on June 03, 2008, 10:56:15 AM
I am sure your to-be wife's experience will not be related to a remark made by Dr Johnson to the effect that; To marry for a second time is the triumph of hope over experience.

I hope all goes well. The shark probably just represents the shadow of the putative mother-in-law....if there is going to be one.

Damn, now I am going to get notified every time greg has a dream, or fails to have a dream, or thought he was going to have a dream.

Mike
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: karlhenning on June 03, 2008, 10:59:02 AM
Damn, now I am going to get notified every time greg has a dream, or fails to have a dream, or thought he was going to have a dream.

Or thinks that he saw ChamberNut's fiancée wearing a foam shark-fin on her head.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Brian on June 03, 2008, 12:58:41 PM
You REALLY want me to post the dream I had last week?

Well, you asked for it. (Note: due to its extraordinary nature, I already had the description all typed out.) I repeat: You asked for it.  ;D


I had a car and was driving the night streets of Fort Wayne, Indiana – or at least it was allegedly Fort Wayne. I was supposed to pick up my friend [E.O.] and take her somewhere – I can’t remember where, but it seemed like it was relatively far away and therefore a rather important task to carry out. While waiting, I (of course) parked in a massive parking lot for a bookstore, intending to go in and browse. [E.O.] was there with her car. [Note: In real life, I'm not even sure she has one.] Naturally this was a problem, since we now had two cars but needed to only use one, but to my surprise this problem was solved when [E.O.] merged the two cars so that the new product was split, in style and paint color, right down the middle from front to back.

At this point details are hazy. Somebody (was it [E.O.]? No; this new person was too flippant) was by my side as we went into another shop instead of the bookstore. It was a sweet shop; we had samples of various kinds of chocolate from the big black guy behind the counter. The first was a chocolate ball with different shades of pink and purple filling, presumably fruit; the others had less chocolate in them and I didn’t like them. So I asked for a box of the first kind, but the guy said that they had run out – some story about losing them involving a box of takeout Chinese food. (Why I can’t remember, except that it seemed logical though unusual at the time.) I asked if there were any more chocolates available, but the man said we couldn’t see them because they were unsuitable for people under the age of 18. (Never mind that I am 18, and my friend, whoever she was, probably was too.)

Anyways, we left, and went into the bookstore (Barnes & Noble). I remember entering alone, but I also remember being with somebody – at this point definitely supposed to be (though not actually) [E.O.]. Anyways, we for some reason (after browsing of shelves) went down to the basement.

The basement was an interesting place. It was circular, for one, and had a domed ceiling which was mostly covered a big round central panel, bright and metallic gray. The floor in the center was darker, possibly a pit, and we stuck to the edges. We walked past a person sitting on the floor who had clearly been there a very long time, but who moved and looked around without acknowledging us. This terrified us: we had heard, apparently, that there was a serious threat of suicide bombers, and it was pretty clear to me that this guy was a potential bomber. On the other side, in a sort of nook, I found an Asian guy in a pinkish shirt and asked him, with bizarre familiarity given I was talking to a stranger, who the guy we had passed was. The response: “Oh, he’s dead.”

Pardon?

Well, it turned out that there was some contorted story, which naturally made tons of sense at the time, involving the obviously living guy being somebody else who had taken the dead guy’s identity, in such a way that, although he was clearly alive and somebody else, everyone treated him as if he were dead. This explanation given, I promptly forgot about the suicide bomber stuff.

Within a moment our corner of the basement was just plain filled with people. Who knows how – but naturally it turned into social hour, and only a handful of moments stand out. In one, I was dealt into a card game with long white plastic things instead of cards, except that when I turned away and then looked back, they were baseball cards. Inaccurate baseball cards, too, with no relation between player picture, name and team. Anyway, somehow a few of us played a game with these, throwing them into a pile and maintaining a hand and so on. The other truly interesting moment was when I telephoned (or perhaps was telephoned by) fellow [college student] [J.W.], and we talked about how she was doing at home in New York. What made this conversation unusual was that at one point [J.W.] was in front of me and I gave her a hug. I was still on the phone talking to her (in New York), but she (in Indiana) was definitely not on the phone with me.

Eventually (I do not remember how or what happened along the way) we all left and went outside. By this time it was one in the morning, and bright as midday. It was also, oddly, frozen and frosted over outside, though it did not feel cold. This is the second time, incidentally, that one of my more memorable dreams has featured frozen-over ground at a time when it ordinarily would not make sense; the first was at my high school graduation, which took place in Michigan, featured all the kids from my Texas high school, and had me leaving the building to find ice on the sidewalks and snowbanks on the ground. In that dream the snowbanks were speckled with bloody dead bodies, so I became afraid and ran back inside; in this dream, too, the ice metaphor appeared in tandem with a dead body, but this time it was the allegedly “dead” guy from the basement. He and two other people were in the back of my car, with its separate styling on the left and right sides. They were sitting facing the left, for some reason, their arms outstretched. The person who was allegedly [E.O.] told me that she had felt awfully sorry for the dead guy, since he’d been left by himself the whole time and was apparently deeply misunderstood and really very nice once you got to know him. There was never an explanation of the identity of the other two people.

Eventually, at some point after this, I opened my eyes to roll over and the dream ended. I do not remember what was happening when the dream ended, unfortunately, though I do remember scattered fragments of other events or images which do not fit into the overall chronology. One was a moment when I was driving down a freeway in the dead of night, allegedly a freeway in Fort Wayne but not like anything else I’ve ever seen – incredibly wide, and EVERYTHING in sight was completely black with thin white outlines around the edges. It was almost like driving through a cartoon. And that was another fragmentary memory – Calvin, Hobbes and Opus the penguin, all on the page but in a cartoon I can’t remember in which all three appeared together. There were other things, but they too are fading fast into the haze of memory.

Some questions are unanswered – who was the person with me in the chocolate shop? Why could I see through the roof of my car when there were the three random people in the backseat at the end? Why was it bright outside at one in the morning? Why, when we emerged into the bright night air, were we in front of the Super Target store in Canton, Michigan? What exactly was the physics of merging two cars together? Where were we supposed to be going? How exactly did the bookstore come to be open at such a late hour? Are there suicide bombers in Fort Wayne, Indiana? Why was my car mostly invisible while I drove it? How exactly could [J.W.] be in two places at once? How did I even know I was in Fort Wayne? Was there any importance to the appearances of racial minorities, or the roles of men versus women? Why did one of the baseball cards list John Lannan as a pitcher for the Boston Red Sox who lost 15 games? Who were all those people who showed up in the basement? Since when do I like chocolates with fruit in them?

Also, what did the whole thing mean?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
Fascinating, Brian. I had a fun time reading all that. This is definitely categorized as an epic dream. For me, epic dreams happen on average once every month or two. But this dream here is possibly longer than any I can think of now.


I had a car and was driving the night streets of Fort Wayne, Indiana – or at least it was allegedly Fort Wayne.
Think of the last reference you've had to "Fort Wayne". I can't remember the last time I've heard that name before.

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Naturally this was a problem, since we now had two cars but needed to only use one, but to my surprise this problem was solved when [E.O.] merged the two cars so that the new product was split, in style and paint color, right down the middle from front to back.
hehe nothing is impossible in a dream, that's why they're so cool


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At this point details are hazy. Somebody (was it [E.O.]? No; this new person was too flippant) was by my side as we went into another shop instead of the bookstore.
I know what you mean by this. You know somebody is by your side, yet you don't get a clear visual imagery. I can recall specific dreams where this has happened. Not long ago (maybe a week ago) my mom mentioned how this happens in her dreams- you can't see them, but you know who they are, or might be (but aren't 100% sure). Of course, my dad laughed at that and thinks we're crazy (since he rarely dreams).


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It was a sweet shop; we had samples of various kinds of chocolate from the big black guy behind the counter. The first was a chocolate ball with different shades of pink and purple filling, presumably fruit;
the first image that I brought to mind was the candy store episode in Animaniacs.
That's because I just watched it again not long ago. If you would've posted this just a month ago, I'd have brought to mind the candy store from the mall, except i haven't been around there for over a year. Interesting how that works, isn't it?
What's the candy store that comes to mind for you? Most of the time it's very easy to find a model from reality.


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the others had less chocolate in them and I didn’t like them. So I asked for a box of the first kind, but the guy said that they had run out – some story about losing them involving a box of takeout Chinese food. (Why I can’t remember, except that it seemed logical though unusual at the time.) I asked if there were any more chocolates available, but the man said we couldn’t see them because they were unsuitable for people under the age of 18. (Never mind that I am 18, and my friend, whoever she was, probably was too.)
almost sounds like a twist on the scene from Animaniacs- you weren't watching that, were you?  ;D


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Anyways, we left, and went into the bookstore (Barnes & Noble). I remember entering alone, but I also remember being with somebody – at this point definitely supposed to be (though not actually) [E.O.]. Anyways, we for some reason (after browsing of shelves) went down to the basement.

The basement was an interesting place. It was circular, for one, and had a domed ceiling which was mostly covered a big round central panel, bright and metallic gray. The floor in the center was darker, possibly a pit, and we stuck to the edges. We walked past a person sitting on the floor who had clearly been there a very long time, but who moved and looked around without acknowledging us. This terrified us: we had heard, apparently, that there was a serious threat of suicide bombers, and it was pretty clear to me that this guy was a potential bomber. On the other side, in a sort of nook, I found an Asian guy in a pinkish shirt and asked him, with bizarre familiarity given I was talking to a stranger, who the guy we had passed was. The response:


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“Oh, he’s dead.”

Pardon?
;D ;D ;D


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Well, it turned out that there was some contorted story, which naturally made tons of sense at the time, involving the obviously living guy being somebody else who had taken the dead guy’s identity, in such a way that, although he was clearly alive and somebody else, everyone treated him as if he were dead. This explanation given, I promptly forgot about the suicide bomber stuff.
This sounds like something coming from a movie or a book.......

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Within a moment our corner of the basement was just plain filled with people. Who knows how – but naturally it turned into social hour, and only a handful of moments stand out. In one, I was dealt into a card game with long white plastic things instead of cards, except that when I turned away and then looked back, they were baseball cards. Inaccurate baseball cards, too, with no relation between player picture, name and team. Anyway, somehow a few of us played a game with these, throwing them into a pile and maintaining a hand and so on.



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The other truly interesting moment was when I telephoned (or perhaps was telephoned by) fellow [college student] [J.W.], and we talked about how she was doing at home in New York. What made this conversation unusual was that at one point [J.W.] was in front of me and I gave her a hug. I was still on the phone talking to her (in New York), but she (in Indiana) was definitely not on the phone with me.
haha i guess your mind was just trying to represent something vague- which is contact with that person. Except it couldn't decide whether it wanted to telephone or talk in real life!  ;D


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Eventually (I do not remember how or what happened along the way) we all left and went outside. By this time it was one in the morning, and bright as midday. It was also, oddly, frozen and frosted over outside, though it did not feel cold. This is the second time, incidentally, that one of my more memorable dreams has featured frozen-over ground at a time when it ordinarily would not make sense; the first was at my high school graduation, which took place in Michigan, featured all the kids from my Texas high school, and had me leaving the building to find ice on the sidewalks and snowbanks on the ground.
Hmmmmm can you recall where that imagery might've came from? Or is it unique to your dream?


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In that dream the snowbanks were speckled with bloody dead bodies, so I became afraid and ran back inside; in this dream, too, the ice metaphor appeared in tandem with a dead body, but this time it was the allegedly “dead” guy from the basement.
lol, interesting to see a connection there..... good short-term memory maybe?

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He and two other people were in the back of my car, with its separate styling on the left and right sides. They were sitting facing the left, for some reason, their arms outstretched.

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The person who was allegedly [E.O.] told me that she had felt awfully sorry for the dead guy, since he’d been left by himself the whole time and was apparently deeply misunderstood and really very nice once you got to know him. There was never an explanation of the identity of the other two people.
sounds like i could've dreamed that part..... except the only person that'd be would be Allen Iverson (yeah, i know it sounds bizarre), since i've heard him as being "misunderstood" etc.


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Eventually, at some point after this, I opened my eyes to roll over and the dream ended. I do not remember what was happening when the dream ended, unfortunately, though I do remember scattered fragments of other events or images which do not fit into the overall chronology. One was a moment when I was driving down a freeway in the dead of night, allegedly a freeway in Fort Wayne but not like anything else I’ve ever seen – incredibly wide, and EVERYTHING in sight was completely black with thin white outlines around the edges. It was almost like driving through a cartoon. And that was another fragmentary memory – Calvin, Hobbes and Opus the penguin, all on the page but in a cartoon I can’t remember in which all three appeared together. There were other things, but they too are fading fast into the haze of memory.
this happens to me a lot, a large dream, waking up a short while, then falling back to sleep to dream fragments.


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Some questions are unanswered – who was the person with me in the chocolate shop?
who did it feel like?
I'm still trying to answer a similar question to one of my dreams- the best I can come up with is that it was a distortion of a couple different people, in the form of a black shadow.


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Why could I see through the roof of my car when there were the three random people in the backseat at the end?
lol

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Why was it bright outside at one in the morning?
maybe you subconsciously thought "it's 1 in the morning" halfway knowing you're asleep, but at the same time thinking it's daytime in your dream?


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How exactly did the bookstore come to be open at such a late hour?
it was light out......so.....

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Are there suicide bombers in Fort Wayne, Indiana?
sounds like an irrational fear..... or an idea from a movie....... or a recollection of the last time you heard about suicide bombers....


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Why was my car mostly invisible while I drove it?
cuz we can't exactly picture things as we'd like to!  ;D
just try to picture your car...... not as perfect as actually seeing it! There's a tendency to focus on it for a second and that's it. Now picture your car while drunk!  :D
just visual distortion, same thing as with your friend.

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Why did one of the baseball cards list John Lannan as a pitcher for the Boston Red Sox who lost 15 games?
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i've never heard of him....... how did you hear about him?

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Also, what did the whole thing mean?
nothing, since dreams are just a progression of thoughts (the difference being you're asleep). So for a long dream like this, there's just a bunch of different little meanings.

some actually do have one meaning- those are dream fragments, what i mentioned before.... sometimes i'd just picture myself riding my bike through a totally distorted version of my old neighborhood. Freud would call the distortion a "censor". But usually this is ridiculous when applied to a dream like this (if he would apply it). It's just lack of visual memory, which is worse when you're asleep. Plus, the bike was invisible, an i might've went through some houses. And it felt more like I was in a 1st person of Jet Moto.....
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 03, 2008, 01:58:56 PM
Also, you said that you used to compose music in your head on the introduction thread. Just make up stuff, although you couldn't remember the themes long enough for a recap.
This is exactly what I used to do all the time! (and still do sometimes)
(And often I go to the piano to do this in real life, complete improvisation and pretending i'm writing a masterwork  ;D )
I think dreaming is very similar to this, except instead of composer, we're directors, since visual memory is most likely to be played back while sleeping (and it still sucks). Interestingly, talking happens way more than music (which is very rare), but that's another story......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ChamberNut on June 03, 2008, 05:30:30 PM
Brian,

We're you perhaps singing Old MacDonald with your friend?   :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 05, 2008, 05:11:52 AM
scary dreams.....
night before last, imagined sleeping on the couch in either my house or my aunt's house (couldn't decide which one) when someone (a burglar?) comes in through the garage and runs over to me and "gets" me (then i wake up). Yeah, that moment was probably scarier than any moment in a horror movie....

last night, another dream about storms/lightning. Went to my friend's house to play guitar in his garage...for some reason the neighbors were painting the driveways blue. It was some crazy old Russian couple that in real life doesn't actually live there (but obviously were modeled after customers i've met at work). Strange, since the Jamaican couple who moved into our house painted all the walls crazy colors.... anyways, i had to go home because in the sky, there were EXTREMELY black thunderclouds, mixed with blue sky. I had to get back home in time (but for some reason i thought i still lived in the neighborhood less than a mile away, but that was years ago). So I run home before the cloud would arrive, then i lose focus and take the 1st person of a bee, and wake up. (the bee view is another theme in my dreams)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: knight66 on June 05, 2008, 10:57:12 AM
See, I knew it...i bloody knew it.

Mike
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on June 05, 2008, 12:08:05 PM
and take the 1st person of a bee, and wake up. (the bee view is another theme in my dreams)

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ChamberNut on June 05, 2008, 03:35:05 PM
What does this mean?

That Greg is dreaming of becoming a beekeeper with Sean.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on June 06, 2008, 02:59:20 AM
That Greg is dreaming of becoming a beekeeper with Sean.

Greg's overpowering goal is to photograph and catalog beehives ...... he doesn't want to be a beekeeper .......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 06, 2008, 04:51:17 AM
See, I knew it...i bloody knew it.

Mike
mwahahahahaha i made the whole thing up just so you'd have to read it  >:D

(in serial, i joke)


That Greg is dreaming of becoming a beekeeper with Sean.
I call this beehive "Shostakovich"
(http://www.sunsetcities.com/Valley-of-Fire/Photos/DSCF0004-beehives-00.jpg)

This one is called "Mao's happy fun time"
(http://anthropologynet.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ancient-behive-tel-rehov-israel.jpg)

This one is "Happy Hump Village"
(http://karynmarkwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/beehive-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on June 06, 2008, 04:55:30 AM
This one is "Happy Hump Village"
(http://karynmarkwell.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/beehive-thumb.jpg)

Cool!

Greg, that belongs in Sean's BEEHIVE PICS THREAD ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 06, 2008, 04:58:07 AM
done  ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: BachQ on June 06, 2008, 04:59:35 AM
done  ;)

I'm going to try to force myself to dream about Happy Hump Village tonight ..........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 06, 2008, 05:00:46 AM
I'm going to try to force myself to dream about Happy Hump Village tonight ..........
:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 12, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
See, I knew it...i bloody knew it.

Mike
x2


Last night, I swear it was like dreaming a symphony in 3 movements.......

1) Walking around some school, with tons of crowds everywhere. Feeling guilty that I didn't know my schedule, so I didn't even know if the day was over. Walked into various rooms, the lunchroom I swear I've dreamed of before but the wild thing is I can't remember where I got the layout from in real life!
So, outside, I meet up with my friend who I haven't talked to in a long time, and he says it's ten minutes away from being the end of the day. Cool.
Then, in the distance, an atom bomb explodes........
i try to control it with my mind to stay in the distance, but can't, and it sweeps over everybody, and everything goes blank.

2) The first thing I can actually remember from the next part is being in a hallway, and then walking to a room. It was Corey's Room (yes, Corey on this forum)  :D. It was pretty nice, red walls and black everything else, nice computer monitor in the back and a very small TV on the left side. I walk around the corner and then walk back to look at his room. There he is, with some sort of Indian turban (it wa s an Indian thing, i'm not sure if it's still called a turban for them), and he was sitting on the floor, meditating. I wondered, "does he actually do this all the time at 4 in the morning?" I think it was him trying to achieve magical powers or something.....

3) At my previous house, the garage open and some other Indian magician was coaching me on how to learn magic. I ask him to use magic on me to make me fly, since I didn't know how to yet... so he did, and I flew around, making loops in the air (1st person, btw) just over the driveway.


I think between the "movements" I woke up, which may describe the breaks. But, it was pretty amazing, haven't had a flying dream for awhile.  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on June 12, 2008, 12:38:05 PM
How ridiculous. As if I would wear my turban at four in the morning!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 12, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
How ridiculous. As if I would wear my turban at four in the morning!
Probably 3 in the morning, wasn't it? I woke up at 4:30, so it must've been closer to 3. And you must've sent me a dream signal, too, eh? Are you trying to show me how to get magical powers?  0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Brian on June 12, 2008, 01:04:58 PM
x2


Last night, I swear it was like dreaming a symphony in 3 movements.......

1) Walking around some school, with tons of crowds everywhere. Feeling guilty that I didn't know my schedule, so I didn't even know if the day was over. Walked into various rooms, the lunchroom I swear I've dreamed of before but the wild thing is I can't remember where I got the layout from in real life!
So, outside, I meet up with my friend who I haven't talked to in a long time, and he says it's ten minutes away from being the end of the day. Cool.
Then, in the distance, an atom bomb explodes........
i try to control it with my mind to stay in the distance, but can't, and it sweeps over everybody, and everything goes blank.

2) The first thing I can actually remember from the next part is being in a hallway, and then walking to a room. It was Corey's Room (yes, Corey on this forum)  :D. It was pretty nice, red walls and black everything else, nice computer monitor in the back and a very small TV on the left side. I walk around the corner and then walk back to look at his room. There he is, with some sort of Indian turban (it wa s an Indian thing, i'm not sure if it's still called a turban for them), and he was sitting on the floor, meditating. I wondered, "does he actually do this all the time at 4 in the morning?" I think it was him trying to achieve magical powers or something.....

3) At my previous house, the garage open and some other Indian magician was coaching me on how to learn magic. I ask him to use magic on me to make me fly, since I didn't know how to yet... so he did, and I flew around, making loops in the air (1st person, btw) just over the driveway.


I think between the "movements" I woke up, which may describe the breaks. But, it was pretty amazing, haven't had a flying dream for awhile.  8)
I would very much like to write a three-movement symphony on this program.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on June 12, 2008, 03:57:40 PM
Probably 3 in the morning, wasn't it? I woke up at 4:30, so it must've been closer to 3. And you must've sent me a dream signal, too, eh? Are you trying to show me how to get magical powers?  0:)


Corey tried PSI Mahler. The enemy is filled with childlike wonder and awe.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 13, 2008, 10:15:19 AM
Corey tried PSI Mahler. The enemy is filled with childlike wonder and awe.
hmmmmmm i have no idea what this means......
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on June 13, 2008, 12:36:37 PM
hmmmmmm i have no idea what this means......

Haha, oh, EarthBound reference, sorry. :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 13, 2008, 02:09:31 PM
Haha, oh, EarthBound reference, sorry. :D
now it makes sense!  ;D
only got to the arcade in Onett town.... yeah, i know that's not really anywhere lol. One of these days i'll have to take a few minutes to kick all their butts out, and play a video game..... inside a video game. I'll probably be about 28 by then.  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on June 13, 2008, 02:15:58 PM
now it makes sense!  ;D
only got to the arcade in Onett town.... yeah, i know that's not really anywhere lol. One of these days i'll have to take a few minutes to kick all their butts out, and play a video game..... inside a video game. I'll probably be about 28 by then.  :D

You can't play any of the games in the arcade. :(
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 14, 2008, 11:08:55 AM
You can't play any of the games in the arcade. :(
:-\
in Final Fantasy 7, you could play games in that arcade......

(man, i remember that place being quite a surreal area...)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 20, 2008, 05:34:20 AM
Last night, I dreamed AGAIN of being in a room with a bunch of instruments and playing them. This time, I reached for a violin first, and then played another clarinet. The main difference was that this was Sean's room, and he was living underneath Publix. The room was so full of instruments that you couldn't even walk through it- it had everything, especially a lot of miniature zithers, kotos, dulcimers, and traditional instruments...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 20, 2008, 05:36:39 AM
I wonder what Sean would think about that. It's funny when people hear my dreams sometimes- a couple of week ago, i told a girl I work with that I dreamed about her falling a off a staircase, and she thought it was funny.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on September 20, 2008, 06:19:47 AM
So far this month I've had two dreams about my house being set on fire.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 20, 2008, 06:24:05 AM
lol, either you're a pyro or.......  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: drogulus on September 20, 2008, 06:46:07 AM


     I don't have many dreams I can remember. Recently I had one that was unusually vivid.
     
     In the dream the universe was being destroyed or was disappearing. Some science guy on TV was explaining how this was happening and that a small part would remain, with some artists rendering or Hubble photos showing the process. Unfortunately the earth and everything in the neighborhood would not survive, and most of the universe was already gone and we only had at most a few days left.

     So I went to the store and asked someone who worked there why they were still open since the world was coming to an end. He said that wouldn't happen until Friday and it was only Monday. I got the idea that everything was supposed to be normal right up to the end.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 20, 2008, 07:38:57 AM

     I don't have many dreams I can remember. Recently I had one that was unusually vivid.
     
     In the dream the universe was being destroyed or was disappearing. Some science guy on TV was explaining how this was happening and that a small part would remain, with some artists rendering or Hubble photos showing the process. Unfortunately the earth and everything in the neighborhood would not survive, and most of the universe was already gone and we only had at most a few days left.

     So I went to the store and asked someone who worked there why they were still open since the world was coming to an end. He said that wouldn't happen until Friday and it was only Monday. I got the idea that everything was supposed to be normal right up to the end.
This had to have been triggered by that science experiment........
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: drogulus on September 20, 2008, 02:40:16 PM
This had to have been triggered by that science experiment........

    There's another explanation, concerning death, etc. That would be more interesting than the damn particle accelerator triggering doomsday. As Einstein would have sad: As If!  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on September 20, 2008, 09:42:56 PM
There are lots of changes going on at the school where I work. Our conditions of work are being changed for the worse etc.

I had a nighmare which involved being given my new teaching timetable which included "compulsory ballroom dancing" for all the teachers at the end of the day  :o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 21, 2008, 04:54:15 AM


I had a nighmare which involved being given my new teaching timetable which included "compulsory ballroom dancing" for all the teachers at the end of the day  :o
;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on September 21, 2008, 05:22:22 AM
My last dream involved me getting a high-paid job to document the indigenous birds that live in the wetlands around here (which involved me driving around in a boat and having various people swim up and ask me what I was doing, and then I would explain :D).

Later, (maybe this was another dream entirely) I was in some sort of school (it looked like a very old building — unfinished wooden floors, knotted wooden walls — so no school I've ever been to) and was starting the first day of a poetry class. The teacher was telling us that we would have to give a lecture on a certain poem, but was due RIGHT THEN. I was panicking and trying to think of poems I knew well enough to talk about extensively. I think I had decided on one of the Songs of Innocence before I woke up.  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 22, 2008, 05:50:17 AM
Two dreams last night:

1. I went to bed in a closet the mall. When I woke up, I talked with some girl at a table NEAR the food court, but the conversation was pretty boring.....

2. This dream was awesome, but very distorted, logically- although, both of these dreams make sense given the fact that I was sleeping off some type of mild fever. I was in a school field trip, much like the ones years ago, where I went to see an orchestra play twice. This time, though, I was actually in the orchestra, and we were assigned to play contemporary percussion pieces. In front of me, they gave an example- about 7 or so performers were lined up, and they all had drums in their laps. They hit the drums from right to left in rapid successions of 16th notes, which were really an incredible sight!  :o
One of the pieces we were assigned to play was something by Lindberg which I had never heard before, so I got excited.
Lots of distortion after that...... but in the end, I was with my friends, just like in 3rd grade, attending the concert. But this time, they had something on by Strauss (Richard). It said it was the Alpine Symphony in the program, but it obviously wasn't. It was a piece that was extremely long and got very boring at time- in other words, impressions of stuff like Also Sprach Zarathustra, or something similar.  The part that was boring was in 3/4 time, kinda like a quite waltz?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 13, 2008, 12:45:46 PM
Realized I was dreaming last night, making another lucid dream. What triggered the realization was that I was looking at an old stereo I used to have which broke down. I had a CD inside, and no matter how hard I tried, it wouldn't go from track one to two, and so forth. It kept on going to random numbers, skipping tracks and all. Then I realized that this was almost like the light switch scenario people use to trigger lucid dreams- try turning on a light switch while you're dreaming- it doesn't work. Or try looking at your watch, and see how distorted it is. It won't be the same time twice!

So, I though that Must do some more research...... eventually, I want to lucid dream and then go to the piano and see what comes out!  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: drogulus on November 16, 2008, 12:15:13 PM


     I had another weird dream a couple of nights ago. In this one I'm in an apartment in a part of town that doesn't exist (this seems to recur now and then). For some reason the neighborhood is run down but the apartment is really nice inside. It's very mysterious how this place can exist but it does somehow. Then the dream suddenly shifts to one of the typical alien invasion dreams where some guy is running down the street (the street just outside the magic apartment) yelling something like "they're here!" and then some kind of light or a meteor or comet is heading right towards me and then a flash and I wake up. Sometimes when this happens I want to get back and see what happens next, but this time I was just happy to get away from whatever it was.  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 16, 2008, 07:39:08 PM
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I had another weird dream a couple of nights ago. In this one I'm in an apartment in a part of town that doesn't exist (this seems to recur now and then)
I'm pretty sure I've had places that "don't exist" come to mind in dreams before.... (although i couldn't say specifically at the moment)
If they feel real, it could be a place you can't remember, like when you were little- and even likelier a place from a movie.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on November 17, 2008, 07:17:19 AM
Last night I dreamt I was living in some giant old two-story house with rotted floors and beds with the springs coming out of the mattress. The house was in a sort of desert area, but the odd thing was that there was a row of houses just like the one I was in on both sides of me. Someone told me that there was some kind of giant thing (robot, monster, I don't know) that was destroying all the towns and was heading for us, so we waited until it showed up off the horizon. All the houses then launched a sort of Stinger missile at the robot/monster thing and presumably killed it, but I never found out because I woke up. :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mn dave on November 17, 2008, 07:18:32 AM
Last night I dreamt I was living in some giant old two-story house with rotted floors and beds with the springs coming out of the mattress. The house was in a sort of desert area, but the odd thing was that there was a row of houses just like the one I was in on both sides of me. Someone told me that there was some kind of giant thing (robot, monster, I don't know) that was destroying all the towns and was heading for us, so we waited until it showed up off the horizon. All the houses then launched a sort of Stinger missile at the robot/monster thing and presumably killed it, but I never found out because I woke up. :D

I'm stealing that.

Just kidding. ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 17, 2008, 12:30:20 PM
Last night I dreamt I was living in some giant old two-story house with rotted floors and beds with the springs coming out of the mattress. The house was in a sort of desert area, but the odd thing was that there was a row of houses just like the one I was in on both sides of me. Someone told me that there was some kind of giant thing (robot, monster, I don't know) that was destroying all the towns and was heading for us, so we waited until it showed up off the horizon. All the houses then launched a sort of Stinger missile at the robot/monster thing and presumably killed it, but I never found out because I woke up. :D
Sounds anime-ish.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 27, 2008, 05:37:30 AM
I think I discovered an excellent technique to help get lucid dreams. I was reading about it a lot last night, so I finally decided to start a dream journal again. I didn't even realized I used the technique until I woke up and thought about what I read.

I woke up for a few minutes and then though that I was actually recording my previous dream in my dream journal. However, I realized I wasn't, so....... i guess I must be dreaming. Then the lucid dream started.

It didn't feel like I was actually asleep again, but I was. Most lucid dreams occur between 4 and 8-ish, so it just isn't heavy sleep- which explains this. So, I'll try to set my alarm clock 2 hours early, and fall back asleep while imagining something specific, like writing in a dream journal.

The thing about lucid dreaming is, it's like thinking except much more clear. You can shut your eyes and imagine you're flying, but clarity will be awful. Also, there's still a good amount of randomness going on, which I suppose might be needed to sustain your sleeping state. How did I end up in a city?! Oh well, it looked cool....  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 22, 2009, 07:38:16 AM
I had too many dreams to count- and all of them were epic and fascinating. 3 I can remember...

1- I was at the mall with my friends, and there was this place in a corner where there is supposed to be a wall, but instead there is an opening to another room, which is covered by blue canvas. You're not supposed to go through there, but we decided to sneak in. It was supposedly a
pathway to a theme park of some kind, maybe a water theme park. I suspected we'd be caught, and forced to pay, but no. We landed in some pool with a big structure in the middle, that I suppose was the pathway we went through.

2- This was one hyperactive, yet extremely thoughtful and maybe profound dream. It's hard to remember the details, but I can remember some images- and the logic behind it was very complex. It involved a lot of running (and possibly flying- had an amazing dream where i flew all over the place, even under water not long ago). I had to run back and forth between what looked like a place in a video game, the stars in space, and a place I used to live. It's really hard to remember any details, but it was incredible- and the complexity is probably the reason for that. It wasn't just some dream with a message- it was like playing a game which engaged your whole mind, and ended with an ascent to the stars.

3- I made up, for some reason, a dream of me playing Final Fantasy 13, which hasn't even been released yet. I imagined there being 3 characters in the party- 2 from 10-2 (Yuna and Paine), and one new character which I obviously invented myself- he almost looked like a wrestler. That's about all I could say for that dream.



Either way, it was refreshing, since it felt like there was nothing new to discover in the whole world until those dreams.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: drogulus on February 22, 2009, 11:20:39 AM


    Last night a plane crashed in my dream, right down the street. Then the fire it started was approaching the house so the dream was called off due to the emergency.  :)

    This must have been related to that plane crash near Buffalo. When I got up that day I heard about the crash 6 mi. out from the Buffalo airport. That was where my GF grew up, and where her sister lives today. So I started to Google news to find out where. It should be close to Clarence since the planes fly over there. Finally I found something that said the crash was in Clarence Center. The sister lives in the next town, and the plane crashed about a mile and a half from their old family homestead.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on February 24, 2009, 02:05:51 PM
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This must have been related to that plane crash near Buffalo
Sounds likely, doesn't it!

The night before last night, I had just finished watching Close Encounters. My dream picked up where the movie left off- I was in a spaceship, and we were trying to coexist with the aliens peacefully. However, in something that looked like a fish tank, there was an alien and a T-Rex, and they were about to get married. The next day, the offspring of those two were another T-Rex and alien, and they were also about to get married. However, since T-Rexes are violent, we had to kill it. The only way to do that was to get it down on a stretcher and cut open its chest and stick my arm in it. It was disgusting- my whole arm was covered with what felt like a pool of blood. Then I woke up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on March 14, 2009, 07:24:23 PM
A few nights ago, a rather disappointing dream. I got this theory book written by Stockhausen in the mail, and it had the wildest looking charts. It even had a section with a completely new system of music notation that looked like a bunch of hexagons representing notes, and all together it looked like a flat beehive shape. Waking up, I realized I never got it, and was sad.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 01, 2009, 07:09:05 PM
A few nights ago, a very entertaining dream. It's under the category of an "epic" dream because of clarity and length, yet the scenario is completely different from a normal epic dream. I was lucky because I only had this dream because I forgot to set my alarm clock and was supposed to wake up an hour earlier. It was worth being late for this one.  8)

I was at a concert where a string quartet was playing through the complete cycle of Shostakovich string quartets. They get up to 7 (which was really 11, but I subconsciously get those numbers mixed up because of the 7/11 gas station), when the one of the violinists, who leads from the beginning of the string quartet- you know, that opening- sees, or more like, I see, the tip of her bow at the bottom of my metal chair leg, and it's stuck. Somehow, she's able to bow, although slightly agitated.

At the end of one of the movements (in my dream I considered it the finale, but I'd have to go back and check, because I don't think it is), there's this passage where the cello and one of the other instruments plays a two-note repeating motif that gets louder, faster, more intense, and the violinist whose bow is stuck under my chair is supposed to finish it off. She can't because now the whole string is broken, so we laugh about it.

Then, some old guy sitting in the middle of the audience gets up and protests the music (i was sitting on the far right). He says, "This music is not sexually aesthetic!" Then some guy walks in from behind all of us and we all turn our heads to look. I can't remember now what he says, but I think he explains the music or something.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Frumaster on April 02, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
I wonder why dreams are so easy to forget.  Does anyone else have this problem.  Right when I wake up, I could describe it to you in every way that language will allow (and more), but in no time my memory of it is completely gone.  I had some really cool dream last night, but now I couldn't even tell you remotely what it was about!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 02, 2009, 06:39:40 PM
I wonder why dreams are so easy to forget.  Does anyone else have this problem.  Right when I wake up, I could describe it to you in every way that language will allow (and more), but in no time my memory of it is completely gone.  I had some really cool dream last night, but now I couldn't even tell you remotely what it was about!
Man, that is a really good question, and there's different opinions. There might be a simple answer, but it's a question I haven't actually investigated enough myself to say.  :-\

Some say that the information is "not important to us" or some other theories that I can't remember at the moment, but I think of it like this- watch a 1-5 minute video, maybe something of youtube- the most random video, with the most random content. Watch it without paying too much attention to it, and then do a bunch of other things in a way to completely rid your mind of it. If you try to recall what you watched, it'll be vague, and content is easily forgotten. I think it might be vaguely similar to that- there's probably a better example someone can think of than this spontaneous one.

btw, if I didn't remind myself several times each day for two days straight of the "sexually unaesthetic"  ;) music of Shostakovich, I'd probably have forgotten almost all of it.  :(
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Renfield on April 02, 2009, 06:59:31 PM
btw, if I didn't remind myself several times each day for two days straight of the "sexually unaesthetic"  ;) music of Shostakovich, I'd probably have forgotten almost all of it.  :(

That's a big part of it.

Why are we all 'bad with names'? Lack of rehearsal, if you've only heard the other person introduce themselves once at the beginning of the conversation, and not used his name since. Memory is strongly about 'cognitive acclimation' to new information, and though the level of my cognitive neuroscientific knowledge isn't quite up to where it should have been, I can still make an educated guess, in that our forgetting of dreams is very likely to be connected to biological processes of recording memories for the long term that might not be 'on' while dreaming.

Think of it like your dream is running on the RAM, and then unless you "Save as...", it gets wiped upon reboot. ;)

(And that's when my Cognitive Neuroscience Prof. walks in and decomposes my molecules magnetically(!?) with an MRI scanner. ;D)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 02, 2009, 07:00:49 PM
I like the comparison you give with computers- it really is similar.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Renfield on April 02, 2009, 07:06:10 PM
I like the comparison you give with computers- it really is similar.

It is, if you discount the fact that cognitive processes aren't covered by an analogy with software - and the brain with hardware - just yet.

(That is, with our current notions of software and hardware. It's close, yet so far away... Hence my Prof. coming to hunt me down! ;))

Edit: Though in the (isolated) context of the present example, the analogy does stand reasonably well. :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Brian on April 05, 2009, 06:26:58 AM
I just had a dream which took place today (as in Sunday), in which I was trying to do all my homework but realized I had to drive back home in the afternoon, and then my dad was there for some reason, going around with one of the cuter female members of my dorm (along with one of the ... less-cute ones) trying to find an apartment to live in next school year.  ??? He explained to me that they were trying to decide whether to live on-campus or move off. As if this did not baffle me enough, I then went to eat dinner and the following conversation occurred at the cash register.

ME: I'd like a white chocolate cream cake.
SERVER PERSON: (grabs a piece of paper and starts writing) Cream ... omelette ...
ME: No, not an omelette! A white chocolate cream cake.
SERVER PERSON: A white chocolate omelette?
ME: No!
SERVER PERSON: Then what?
ME: It's a chocolate cake.
SERVER PERSON: Okay.
ME: Except with white chocolate. And cream.
SERVER PERSON: (metaphorical light bulb moment) Oh!
ME: Yes!
SERVER PERSON: Would you like a packet of mustard?
ME: Why thank you!

That's when I woke up.  ;D

EDIT: Post #4,000!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on April 05, 2009, 01:02:35 PM
Recent dream that I remembered to write down:

Nazi concentration camp. I am waiting with others in officer's uniforms for an inspection of the camp. Hitler shows up with a retinue of sharply dressed men. We line up shoulder-to-shoulder to receive his greeting. He shakes my hand, leaning in close so that I can see his face. On reflection I recall that he resembled not the actual Hitler, but a slightly chunky Mexican version of myself -- though he had the trademark moustache. He complains about the good conditions in the camp, that we are too lenient with the prisoners. He pointed and screamed (in English) at a poster (also in English) advertising healthy meals "for only 9.99" in a shrill, high-pitched and sarcastic voice. Later in the dream I recall images of American soldiers piling onto a barb-wire fence, all firing old-fashioned wooden bolt action rifles that spout a regular stream of small, yet violent, explosions of flames.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 05, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
good ones...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Dr. Dread on April 13, 2009, 05:32:52 AM
A composer sent us a Naxos CD of his work in order to win a portable CD player. At one point the CD turned into a slice of bread but then it turned back. I had the impression the composer felt ashamed he was submitting his work for this purpose. Someone near me said to disregard the recording but I showed them the BBC logo on it (?) in order to prove its validity.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Kullervo on April 13, 2009, 06:02:13 AM
Hahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on April 14, 2009, 04:09:51 AM
At the time of random imposition of extra workloads at the school where I teach - I had a dream in which I received a new timetable, in which the lunch hour was extended by an hour every day - so by Friday there was a five hour lunch hour. But we were all still required to teach all our afternoon lessons , so that by the end of the week I was teaching until 10.00pm. On further examination of my timetable I noticed that, at the end of every teaching day, there was 'Compulsory ballroom dancing' (my idea of hell) for all members of staff.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Anne on April 15, 2009, 07:01:58 PM
I am going to a sleep center to see if I have sleep apnea or other undesirable sleep patterns.  I had always wondered why I didn't remember dreams.  It turned out last week that I didn't have any dreams.  Sleep apnea is a different story.  The people at the center said 0 - 5 was a normal number of apnea incidents in an hour.  I had 44 sleep apnea incidents in one hour.  Unfortunately I can't remember those either.   ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 15, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
I am going to a sleep center to see if I have sleep apnea or other undesirable sleep patterns.  I had always wondered why I didn't remember dreams.  It turned out last week that I didn't have any dreams.  Sleep apnea is a different story.  The people at the center said 0 - 5 was a normal number of apnea incidents in an hour.  I had 44 sleep apnea incidents in one hour.  Unfortunately I can't remember those either.   ;D
Wow! How does this affect you- do you feel tired when you wake up or need too many hours of sleep?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 16, 2009, 03:47:36 AM
My dream last night leaves me thinking "wtf"?.... but a little proud at how creative it was.

The first part I can't remember now anyways, but after a few minutes, I was in Thailand with some friend that I just made up- don't know who he is. I was helping him at his job. His job is hard to describe....

It's like this- two people stand on a street corner and have to interlock a right arm with a left arm (the most awkward part) while folding some white laundry- mainly, a pair of socks. It has to be not regularly folded, but twisted around in a very specific way. Then, you have to run across the street and hand the socks to someone specific and then run back- that's the job. I'm trying to figure out the logic behind this, but I give up.

During an attempt to do it alone, an old lady told me, "I bet you can't do it." Sure enough, I already forgot how to twist the socks and had to be showed again. I guess it's possible to do the job without a partner.

I ask him how much he does this. He said his days are like this- work in the morning, spend money at the arcade in the afternoon, work a little more at night.  I thought it sounded good.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 26, 2009, 05:02:01 PM
This is like a dream I had a year or two ago...

I go to my old neighborhood (yet again in my dreams)- the one I haven't lived in since I was 11 or 12 (thought it's only about 40 minutes away), and want to see what it looks like. I go down my old street, and the houses are completely redone- there's pretty much a cliff of a 20 foot drop by the sidewalk where the houses' base starts, and the houses are extremely tall- 3 or 4 story mansions. I drive to other streets, and the houses don't even look like houses- it's hard to remember exactly, but some look like gigantic skull shapes, or the Mortal Kombat dragon logo, or like Squidward's house.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Brian on June 15, 2009, 09:20:27 AM
I had a dream that the forum member ' was named a new moderator, and then I dreamed that I was going to a baseball game and then it turned out that ' was there and she was a petite 22 year old girl who kept hitting on me and followed me to my seat. Can't say I ever objected, in fact I rather enjoyed it, but I did not reciprocate. Then I woke up.

My apologies for this, '  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=profile;u=135).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Dr. Dread on June 15, 2009, 09:24:52 AM
LO effing L.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 15, 2009, 11:16:42 AM
I had a dream that the forum member ' was named a new moderator, and then I dreamed that I was going to a baseball game and then it turned out that ' was there and she was a petite 22 year old girl who kept hitting on me and followed me to my seat. Can't say I ever objected, in fact I rather enjoyed it, but I did not reciprocate. Then I woke up.

My apologies for this, '  (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?action=profile;u=135).
:o
awesome...!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mikkeljs on June 18, 2009, 08:45:50 AM
Last week I had my 2nd year exam, and I played Chopin 2nd ballade and a Liszt-etude. 2 days before the exam I had this dream:

I walked deep into the wood, and I meet a black person who was shaking of fear and panic. He told me, that there was an accident, where he killed Chopin and Liszt, and now he would try to hide the corpses. I could see that it was an accident, and I decided to help the man hiding them. The first thing I said to him was, that if he wanted to hide them, first of all he should take down the 2 meter high grave stone, he had just builded!  ;D
Later in the dream we were sitting in the middle of huge football stadion hoping that we could talk details about the corpses, and what to do with them. Every time I wanted to tell something secret, I looked around to check that no one was spying us, but there was plenty of people walking around us all the time, some of them looked very wierd. Then I also told the black person, that by the way I was going to play works by Chopin and Liszt in 2 days, and that he was very wellcome to come and listen.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 18, 2009, 12:27:40 PM
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that by the way I was going to play works by Chopin and Liszt in 2 days, and that he was very wellcome to come and listen.
well, that just solves everything, doesn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mikkeljs on June 19, 2009, 02:37:19 AM
well, that just solves everything, doesn't it?  ;D

I´m usually quite good analyzing my dreams, but this one was almost too easy.  ;D In fact I was starting to get really unsatisfied with my level just the day before my exam, and I called my teacher in frustration and said that I had lost all motivation to practice because I couldn´t accept my performance. But it went fine. I actually recorded it on my disc man, if you are interested to listen. 8)

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 26, 2009, 03:36:05 AM
Two extremely bad dreams just now.
The first: some guy in Switzerland goes crazy and kills 20 people. It's all over the news. The footage is strange, though... it's at a place that looks like the outside of a casino, and it looks like he just casually pulls out a chainsaw, people get scared, and instead of running, they freeze with fear and form a circle around him. Then he does stuff like try to talk to one of them smoothly, and then quickly takes out the chainsaw and either puts it in their stomach or cuts off their head.
In a variation of that dream, I was in a garage with a bunch of people and we had to run away from him.

The second: I'm with some people in this place that seems to be a school. I look straight ahead and see this area where no one is, which looks like a fun land, and there is carnival music coming out. I'm completely amazed and can't stop looking, and decide to walk through there despite people telling me not to go in. There turns out to be nothing there- it's dark and under construction. I turn around and notice my dog (who can talk) is right by me. "Hey there! Okay, let's turn back.... wait, which way to go, I forgot." So, I told him to go a certain way that used a ladder down the side of a wall, and then just drop down into the darkness. He did, and it turned out that it was a 60 foot drop. I hear a crash, a whimper, and no response. I assume he died.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 26, 2009, 02:42:34 PM
I had a dream.... that I lived in a house which was the size of a mansion, and looked like a CD store with large screen TVs (and people looking at CDs, although that is probably not the intended effect).

I wonder if this was the result of thoughts about the way I would store music, and how when I live by myself, I only care for a small apartment. I would have my whole music library on one of those little 1 TB hard drives, and an apartment which is decorated minimally.

In this dream, however, it was the complete opposite, and I felt a sense of wonder and awe at this place, and the aisles and aisles of CDs. When I think about this while I'm awake, I'm only mildly amused and know I don't need any of that. 

A classic case of Freudian repression, maybe?... ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on July 26, 2009, 03:17:05 PM
I usually don't tell my dreams because as I'm relating them, I realize that they have embarrassing hidden meanings. When I was in grad school I became slightly interested in an older Israeli musicology student who played the French horn. One night I dreamed that he was playing the trombone instead. I made the mistake of telling him about my dream. Needless to say he thought it had phallic symbolism and started chasing me around the dorm shouting "Suzanne, you will love it!" 

My most frequent dream is being late for something, e.g. my volunteer work with the disabled, or playing piano at church. Pretty tame. Those dreams actually function as alarm clocks.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 26, 2009, 03:20:51 PM
Haha, I'm assuming SonicMan already knows about that dream!  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: SonicMan46 on July 26, 2009, 04:04:39 PM
Haha, I'm assuming SonicMan already knows about that dream!  :D

Hi Greg - yep, that story is 'ole news' to me!  Actually, after Susan (i.e. Harpo) graduated from Brown University in Providence, she enter the University of Chicago to start a Masters degree in Social Work, and roomed at a place called the 'International House' - that's the place where she met these 'characters' - likely just 'horny' guys after American gals, who knows?

Now, this was the late '60s and the riots in the mid-West were rampant; she faced potentially physical harm in Chicago in her role as a 'social work' student and was scared; she transferred to the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, where I was starting my second year in medical school; for whatever reason we ended up rooming in adjacent houses on the campus and chose to 'board' (i.e. eat)  at an Ann Arbor coop called Vail House - that's where we met - this was in 1968 - she obtained her Masters degree in Social Work, and I was still in medical school; we married in '70 between my 3rd-4th years - was a 'fun' time for us; BOY - 40 yrs ago!

Why Ann Arbor as a choice - well, her father (a Jewish guy from Newark, NJ) chose in the 1930s to attend the University of Michigan because the 'price' was right, i.e. pretty cheap - he loved the experience; as a result, Susan's younger sister was @ Michigan when she transferred from Chicago.  Her father returned to the East Coast and attended NYU medical school where he met a younger female medical student, who became his wife - that union produced Susan.

Her grandmother, Rita Finkler was also an M.D. with just a fascinating life - check HERE (http://www.umdnj.edu/librweb/History_of_Medicine/Finkler.html), if interested.  Unfortunately, she died the year before I went to New Jersey to 'meet' the family (as they say) - believe as a medical student I would have loved knowing this pioneer, esp. since I ended up in academic radiology, teaching residents, giving lectures, and publishing - I hope she would have liked me.

Sorry for this 'long winded' response, but I've been proud to be married to this woman and to be a part of this remarkable family - Dave  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on July 26, 2009, 04:18:05 PM
Hi Greg - I've been proud to be married to this woman and to be a part of this remarkable family - Dave  :)

Well gosh, I don't know what to say (or write)!

(http://images.cdn2.inmagine.com/168nwm/radiusimages/rds119/rds119485.jpg)

Sonic forgot to say that he first noticed me when the kids in the co-op were playing volleyball and he thought "This is the worst volleyball player I've ever seen!"
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 26, 2009, 04:39:43 PM
Nice story, Dave. Sounds like good times, indeed.


(http://images.cdn2.inmagine.com/168nwm/radiusimages/rds119/rds119485.jpg)
what a completely random, extremely cute picture, btw...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on July 27, 2009, 06:55:51 AM
I became slightly interested in an older Israeli musicology student who played the French horn. One night I dreamed that he was playing the trombone instead. I made the mistake of telling him about my dream. Needless to say he thought it had phallic symbolism and started chasing me around the dorm shouting "Suzanne, you will love it!" 


I googled the lecherous Israeli and here's what he looks like now:

(http://huc.edu/faculty/faculty/images/Schleifer-10-06.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 27, 2009, 07:59:45 AM
I googled the lecherous Israeli and here's what he looks like now:

(http://huc.edu/faculty/faculty/images/Schleifer-10-06.jpg)
Looks normal to me.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on July 27, 2009, 08:18:53 AM
Looks normal to me.

Maybe, but he also looks old enough to be my Uncle Max.  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: SonicMan46 on July 27, 2009, 08:24:01 AM
I googled the lecherous Israeli and here's what he looks like now:

(http://huc.edu/faculty/faculty/images/Schleifer-10-06.jpg)

Hey, let me at 'hm, let me at 'hm!   >:( ;) 0:)

(http://z.hubpages.com/u/272145_f496.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on July 27, 2009, 08:26:12 AM
<groans> this is going to get sappy soon, oh wait too late... ::)

 $:) :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on July 27, 2009, 11:23:15 AM
Hey, let me at 'hm, let me at 'hm!   >:( ;) 0:)


He is a music professor, so I hope he's not a member of this forum!  ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on July 27, 2009, 04:19:41 PM
 Every once in a while I wake up to music playing in my head--sometimes a song, sometimes a whole orchestral piece. It sounds great as I'm waking up, and I always wonder if I compose pieces in my sleep. In waking life I am not a composer at all, though I've certainly heard a lot of music and apparently have a good "aural memory."

Has anyone else had this experience?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on July 27, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
Every once in a while I wake up to music playing in my head--sometimes a song, sometimes a whole orchestral piece. It sounds great as I'm waking up, and I always wonder if I compose pieces in my sleep. In waking life I am not a composer at all, though I've certainly heard a lot of music and apparently have a good "aural memory."

Has anyone else had this experience?

It came up in Musicophilia by Sacks.  I had experience like that just a few days ago.  I was hearing a HIP ensemble play a late Beethoven SQ on period instruments, but I have no such recording in my collection! :o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 27, 2009, 10:39:20 PM
Every once in a while I wake up to music playing in my head--sometimes a song, sometimes a whole orchestral piece. It sounds great as I'm waking up, and I always wonder if I compose pieces in my sleep. In waking life I am not a composer at all, though I've certainly heard a lot of music and apparently have a good "aural memory."

Has anyone else had this experience?
Yeah, though an original work that I think is by a composer, but really something I just made up.  :o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 01, 2009, 07:15:16 AM
Dreamed that I took a trip to my old neighborhood that I haven't lived in in nearly 10 years- was riding my bike there, and met a friend that was actually still living there. I think by about 2 or 3 years after I moved out, every single one of my friends moved out, too, but he might've been the last one, and to this day I still don't know if he lives there, though I seriously doubt he would. I talked to him for awhile about that, but that was all.
Seems to be the most common theme in my dream- old friends. I'd be surprised if anyone of them ever dreams of me, though.  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: CD on August 05, 2009, 03:44:59 PM
Seems to be the most common theme in my dream- old friends. I'd be surprised if anyone of them ever dreams of me, though.  :P

Happens fairly often with me too, especially ones with whom I've had a falling out.

Lately I keep having dreams that my kittens have come back. When they disappeared, I merely said "such is life" and moved on, but perhaps my subconscious places some other kind of value on them. Could the common thread between these two different recurring dreams be regret?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 05, 2009, 06:49:16 PM
Happens fairly often with me too, especially ones with whom I've had a falling out.

Lately I keep having dreams that my kittens have come back. When they disappeared, I merely said "such is life" and moved on, but perhaps my subconscious places some other kind of value on them. Could the common thread between these two different recurring dreams be regret?
Yeah, could be regret.

I had a couple of dreams about my old dog a couple of months after she died, where she was on the school bus with me, and then jumped out of the window and ran away.  ::)

I wonder sometimes if it would be easiest, and most accurate to interpret dreams by just saying that at the base everything starts from desire. Even if you close your eyes and recycle thoughts, even if they are unpleasant, maybe there is a subconscious desire to go over those thoughts because they have some importance. Dreams, also.

Example from a while ago:
I dream about being kidnapped at the parking lot at work because when I was done working that night, there was a suspicious car sitting outside, and I had even pointed at it. After driving past it, I didn't think about it for the next few hours until I fell asleep.

Interpretation:
My subconscious felt unsafe, so it expressed the desire to make sure I'm not being threatened. It's not that I desired to be kidnapped, but I had to have my defenses up, even though I was asleep.

How much are actions guided by desire for survival, I wonder? How much in dreams?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 12, 2009, 04:48:07 AM
My dreams getting kinda ridiculous lately...  ::)

Either the night before last night or the night before, I dreamed about a specific old friend. I've had variations of this dream many times already.

Last night, I dreamed the whole "old friends" thing in an epic dream (anyone who doesn't know- that's a type of dream that's very long and vivid). It started out with one friend in the last neighborhood I was living in. I wasn't even close to him, so dreaming about him was a surprise- he did move away unexpectedly, but that was many years ago (like 9).

So then I traveled to the neighborhood were I lived before that (only a few miles away from that). I had a repeat of this theme:
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was riding my bike there, and met a friend that was actually still living there. I think by about 2 or 3 years after I moved out, every single one of my friends moved out, too, but he might've been the last one, and to this day I still don't know if he lives there, though I seriously doubt he would. I talked to him for awhile about that, but that was all.

Except this time, his mom invited me in and the house layout was strange, and I found him with a few others in his room. They were some part of strange group- couldn't figure it out, though they said they were a dance group. After that, the final scene (i'm sure i'm missing something in the dream) consisted of the "dance group" performing in front of an audience in the auditorium. Even though I was in the audience, I was also in the dance group onstage.  ??? The dance group also consisted of extra people, including 2 of the girls that I work with (which happen to be the only 2 people out of everybody there that I've dreamed of, which is very strange and doesn't make any sense).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 26, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
Cool, imaginative dream last night, I guess. Well, actually not cool, but interesting and a pleasant experience despite the content.

I think I've forgotten much of it throughout the day, but...
I remember one part where there was me and a bunch of people outside possibly a bank, and there were construction workers on the road directly in front of us. They were pouring new cement (or gravel, whatever it is) into the ground to fix potholes or something. Then, they drove right to the side of the bank into the drive-through area, but it annoyed all of us. So, we got someone to argue against the construction workers- that person being the guy in the Paint department where I work who used to date that girl I used to talk about in the Schoolgirl Crushes thread. We really thought he could pull it off and get them out of here- but the conversation went like this- "This is OUR territory. We don't want you to mess anything up," and the construction worker firing back, "We own all the roads- EVERYTHING- SO YOU CAN'T TELL US WHAT TO DO!" The guy in Paint just looked troubled and couldn't do anything about it, and I just felt bad for him.  :-\


The other part was that me and a bunch of people (again, i'm guessing this group is just a bunch of coworkers) went to some mansion and took a tour. There's only one thing I can still remember about the tour. There was a big hall which contained areas with enormous piles of gifts (the ceiling was extremely high (at least 100 feet, i'd say)) and a banner with a name on it. Each one of those names was a name of a coworker, and the area represented gifts that they could possibly take to the afterlife if they died. As I walked through the hallways, I noticed that each person had gifts that were peculiar to their tastes (for example, the girls had huge stuffed teddy bears and the guys had computers, TVs, and football jerseys). When I came across my name, they only had the basics (and the area was small in comparison to the others)- smaller teddy bears, candy, etc. I figured no one knew what I really want... (although that's not entirely true)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 16, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
Last night, I dreamed I went with my friend back to his old high school in Cali, Columbia (i guess it must've been some type of reunion or something).
In reality, Friday night, I had sent in 24 friend requests to all of the cute girls I wanted to on his friend list, and so far 11 have added me, and 6 are pending- so I'm assuming 7 denied.
(This explains the part where I see a ton of girls greeting us outside the school).

Anyways, the school in my dream looked nothing like the picture I saw of it. It was either being torn down or in the middle of construction, and we were walking around the second floor. There were no hand railings or anything, since they were taken off. I sit down for a second, and then get up and look behind me. In the distance, there was a lady pushing a stroller with a baby in it. However, she was completely unaware of the fact that the railings were taken off and couldn't really see where she was going. Before I could even open my mouth to shout and tell her to stop, she and her baby in the stroller fall off the edge of the inside 2nd story and onto the ground of the 1st and turn into a pool of blood.

Yeah, that wasn't a very pleasant one...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Harpo on November 17, 2009, 10:08:08 AM
I dreamed that my mother, who is almost 89, came for a surprise visit, only she was young and pretty, as she used to be. I tried to call my brother (who is her caregiver) to tell him she was here, and he said he was glad to have a break from her.  Not a very subtle dream.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Brian on November 22, 2009, 10:31:56 AM
I had a dream where Mariss Jansons said in an interview that he wanted to record a HIP set of Beethoven symphonies with hard-stick timpani. I seem to recall being very surprised by this.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: CD on November 22, 2009, 01:03:54 PM
I dreamt last night that a former roommate of mine had dug an underground bunker near the house in which I grew up, only the house looked like a mansion, and the former roommate didn't look anything like he really does, but somehow I knew it was he.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on November 22, 2009, 03:49:05 PM
My wife has a recurring dream in which she is living with a family of dwarves.  I am quite small - this is all most disturbing  :o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on November 22, 2009, 03:52:05 PM
My wife has a recurring dream in which she is living with a family of dwarves.  I am quite small - this is all most disturbing  :o

Is her first name "Snow"? And does she call you "Grumpy"?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: (: premont :) on November 22, 2009, 04:39:41 PM
Well my most stupid musical dream:

I was attending a concert, Robert Levin was playing a piano concert by Mozart, do not remember which one. When the time came for the cadence in the first movement, he began improvising, as he uses, in the most Mozartian manner. But little by little the music became more jazzy and then the other musicians began one after the other to sing and make strange noises, until at some point I was witnes to a strange modern jazz-session. Then I stood up and cried out:

"This is not a cadence, this is decadence".

And woke up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 22, 2009, 07:01:51 PM
I had a dream last night. It was bad.
I had read in the newspaper yesterday about this computer program that you can use to record everything a user of a computer types into their computer without them knowing. A potential use is for parental surveillance of kids.

My dream was that my mom had come home and gave me some type of wrapper that somehow represented that computer program, and told me she installed it on my laptop. Then, I left the wrapper at the edge of my bed right next to the wall. I fell asleep, then woke up. I saw the wrapper still there. I realized it wasn't a dream and panicked. Then I fell asleep again and woke up- this happened literally 3 or 4 times, each time with me reconfirming that this was reality. Finally, the last time I woke up, I checked that same area again, and no wrapper. This time I was actually awake for real.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on November 22, 2009, 07:04:46 PM
Well my most stupid musical dream:

I was attending a concert, Robert Levin was playing a piano concert by Mozart, do not remember which one. When the time came for the cadence in the first movement, he began improvising, as he uses, in the most Mozartian manner. But little by little the music became more jazzy and then the other musicians began one after the other to sing and make strange noises, until at some point I was witnes to a strange modern jazz-session. Then I stood up and cried out:

"This is not a cadence, this is decadence".

And woke up.

Classic.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 23, 2009, 07:08:28 AM
A nice dream last night.

For some reason, I had to drive to this place many miles away and meet this one girl that works with me (one that i don't get to talk to much). We met in the front yard of this house (or trailer?) and then discussed driving further away, until I suggested Canada.  :o (and i live in Florida)

She said, "let's go for it," and I followed her car until we drove maybe 10 miles, then she made a U-Turn and we ended up back at the house/trailer. She said, "that was fun."

Then her boyfriend called her (one of the guys we work with, who is really good guy) and I knew it was him even though she didn't say it was him- but, she gave me the phone and I said, "Hey, Ryan!" then he said something, and I couldn't make out what he was saying because it was so staticy. I had to move around to hear, but don't remember what happened after that. It could've been the end of the dream, not sure...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Benji on November 23, 2009, 09:37:15 AM
I dreamt last night that a former roommate of mine had dug an underground bunker near the house in which I grew up, only the house looked like a mansion, and the former roommate didn't look anything like he really does, but somehow I knew it was he.

I get those kind of dreams a lot.

I imagine the part of the brain that stores facts/concepts about a 'person' is separate from the visual part of the brain that stores the information about their physical appearance (i.e. the discrete properties that distinguish them from other people). In fact, i'm sure I read that there are people who cannot recognise faces at all, even those of their family, but can recognise them from the sound of their voice, body mannerisms etc.

At any rate, it seems the dreaming mind doesn't place too much importance on matching the 'concept' of a person with their actual appearance, even sometimes putting the appeareance of another acquaintance on top of another person's concept. And as we know, in the dream that does not confuse us at all. Wow, our dreams are just like that film, Face-Off, except not a pile of crap!  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: MN Dave on November 23, 2009, 09:50:55 AM
I dreamed my stepfather broke my mother's neck and hid her in a creek behind the house.  :(
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 23, 2009, 01:03:13 PM
I imagine the part of the brain that stores facts/concepts about a 'person' is separate from the visual part of the brain that stores the information about their physical appearance (i.e. the discrete properties that distinguish them from other people).
Well, the way I think of it is similar, though not exactly the same.

I'd say that the brain never really "turns off," even when you are sleeping. The only time it does (just like when the heart stops beating) is when you die. The two primary things, to me, that seem to drive the brain like a beating heart, is just random thoughts and desires (the relation being a mystery).

However, when you fall asleep, it just means the brain is impaired (kind of like, drunk, maybe?). This causes distortion of all types, the most obvious being visual. One thing you can't do, for example, is look at your watch 2 times and see the same number in your dreams. (I tried once, and didn't work, so I knew I was dreaming ;D ). Another type of distortion is simply logic and reasoning (that one should be self-explanatory)- being at a house you used to live at years ago and not even questioning anything about it and just accepting it as reality, etc... Actually, you experience this even when you are awake, but half-asleep (my example in the first post of the "Creative Fatigue Thoughts" thread.

You can also think of degrees of distortion- a visual example. Look at a picture of a person you know. That is clarity. Close their eyes and try to picture them. It won't be the same- I'd say slightly distorted. Then, if you dream about them, in most cases it'll be even more unclear (with the exception of the rare lucid or realistic dream).

So, I think the truth is similar to what Freud says in The Interpretation of Dreams, except there is no "censor" (that's ridiculous). I would say the vast majority (if not all) dreams are driven by desire (which is usually something repressed, forgotten, or overlooked), but there are varying degrees of distortion which make the message cryptic, not realistic, and give dreams the "mysterious" and "random" quality that they have. Just try to have a conversation with someone who is really drunk.  ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on November 27, 2009, 11:30:40 AM
Had a lucid dream last night, finally- and I know why.

I decided to, on a whim, research more about lucid dreaming right before falling asleep- read a web page about different techniques you can use as "signals"- for example, checking to make sure something works- if it isn't, you're dreaming.

So, while I was dreaming, I thought I was on the computer messing around with some program. Then, for some reason, I remembered what I read. "Check to see if something works." (a.k.a. performing a "reality check"). So, I tried to touch my hand to see if I could feel it, but it didn't work- so, I knew I was dreaming.

The only thing was, I wasn't in a very deep sleep so nothing seemed that clear- actually, not much more clear than regular thoughts.  >:( Then, I very easily woke up. It was 6:00, and usually the best hours for lucid dreaming are between 3 and 5.

It would be nice if I could remember the technique in every one of my dreams, but the only reason I remembered it in that one was because I stopped reading about lucid dreaming and went to sleep before I really "felt like stopping." So, given the general rule that "if you feel like thinking about something more, but haven't thought about it enough (or repressed/cut off the flow of thought you started), then it's likely you'll think of it in your dreams," that's why I was able to lucid dream. I'm sure there has to be a name for this "rule"...

Anyone have any idea how I could maybe be get myself to perform reality checks while dreaming not just on a whim, but during every dream? (I've tried the regularly scheduled reality checks for months at a time with little success, possibly because they don't make you think and they're just annoying.)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on November 27, 2009, 02:14:57 PM
Is her first name "Snow"? And does she call you "Grumpy"?

 :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 03, 2010, 06:46:38 AM
Last night a bunch of dreams, details which are escaping me.

There was one where I was in a room with an old friend visiting my old school, and there was some sort of need to carry something around in a circular direction on the floor. For some reason, they got something easy while I had to use a small rhino. Then I saw the one girl from my old Japanese class... again...  :-\ and we just looked at each other for a second blankly and that was it.

Then, there was a scene with me and someone else (I forgot who). We were in a city and by a tunnel like the ones you see in Mario. A fireball came out of one and then landed on buildings in the distance and spread within seconds to many buildings until it nearly made a 360 around us. Luckily, there was a small gap we could fit through with no fire. Then, another one after going on... then a pond to cross and we were safe.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: CD on January 11, 2010, 10:15:46 PM
The other morning I dreamt that I was in a giant warehouse-type mall (like the one in the "flea market! Montgomery! It's just like, it's just like a mini-mall!" commercial) and came across someone displaying an antique Pleyel harpsichord (I know, they only made pianos) and asked the person running the booth if I could play, after which I proceeded to play a section of the adagio of Beethoven's Op. 132 quartet. I guess my mind substituted that because pretty much the only thing I can play all the way through from memory is the aria of the Goldberg Variations, and they are a bit similar.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 18, 2010, 05:21:18 AM
Dreamed I went on myspace and there were 222 people that came on myspace chat all at the same time, (probably) all of them being girls. I was confused how this could happen, and they suddenly ended up getting off at the same time, leaving it saying Online(0).

This is of course related to last night, when two of them were online at the same time, and I figured they might be chatting, and then I just left.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 22, 2010, 04:24:04 PM
A few nights ago, I dreamed I was driving at night. There was a huge traffic jam by a light and I saw cars in front of me turning back .

Then, eventually I got close enough to see right in front of me several cars that had caught on fire and people burning to death inside their car and some guy who had jumped out of the car and was trying to shake the fire off of him while burning to death. Then, the fire jumped right in front of me, about to take me into it, but luckily I woke up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Cristofori on January 22, 2010, 04:35:50 PM
Do any of you have dreams of hearing music? I don't mean just hearing music, but music that is so damn real or loud in your head that it can either wake you up, or make you feel bizarre for awhile after waking up? These occurrences for me are mostly positive, sometimes negative, but I couldn't even begin to describe the way I feel when it happens either way.

I've also had dreams where I hear some kind of very real piece of classical music (usually baroque), but I can't tell if it is just a mish-mosh of various pieces I've heard or if it is something I conjured up myself. I sometimes have dreams of rock/pop music I've heard as well, but these are more precise and I usually recognize where they came from. 

There have been a few times where I've remembered some melody or notes I dreamed about after waking, but not having the ability to write them down in anyway, I completely forget what they were in a short time. I've had a few where I could have sworn I've never heard them before, but I'm not sure. 

This is all very frustrating, but also beautiful at the same time! ???

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 23, 2010, 06:21:40 AM
Yeah, that has happened to me a few times.
The two times I can remember involve them sounding like certain pieces (and me thinking they actually are, even though they aren't)- so they must be an original derived from the style.
The clarity of sound you get from this experience is really trippy.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on March 18, 2010, 08:15:55 AM
So, I dreamed last night I was at the bookstore and I saw the president there, looking through some books just like a regular person. I walked past him without even giving a second thought- maybe I might've said, "what's up?" at the most, though I don't even remember.

By the end of the dream, while waking up, I realized how strange the scenario was. Shouldn't I have been a little bit more interested and surprised? Sadly, I couldn't even figure out that I was obviously dreaming- what an easy clue to start a lucid dream.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 13, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
Seems like probably half of my dreams (literally, half, meaning 50%) involve me going back in time to when I was younger than 12 and playing with my old friends.

I wonder why that is- maybe it has something to do with the fact that at that time, I was actually a mildly happy person. The last 9 or 10 years, though (12 and after), I'd just like to forget for the rest of my life.

Maybe I never felt like I got to say bye to them properly. They did seem to move abruptly. Who knows.

Just a week or so ago, I listened to the Liszt Liebestraum No.3, and these two bars right near the end, which are just groups of small treble chords summoned up a very, very nostalgic feeling. Falling asleep right after that, I had another dream about being in my old neighborhood, when I was 10 or so. In this dream, I was strangely desperate on insisting this was my reality, even though when I'm awake I never think about that time of my life. It was like the ultimate escape from my current life, which is nothing but a disappointment and filled with misery, to complete innocence and ignorance about how the world works.

Anyone else have half of their dreams about before they turned 13? Or maybe it's just my age to begin with. Probably 10 years from now, I'll have dreams about the school I just graduated from, since I liked that place. Who knows.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 18, 2010, 09:06:58 AM
Last night was probably the best dream I ever had.

It was a very long, extremely clear dream where, in the beginning I had just started to discover that I could move stuff with my mind. At first, all I used it for was to play tricks on people, but eventually, I developed the power to where I could literally make right anything that was wrong. Each and every moment I encountered something disagreeable, I just took a second to concentrate, express my wish, and the problem was solved. I could control peoples' thoughts, desires, ambitions, whatever with just a single thought. It was so exhilarating, it felt like my existence was ecstasy, every second. I could do what I wanted to when I wanted to.

By the end of my dream, my power had developed to where I was in complete control of anything, and I had gotten to a point to where I made the world into a better place, practically as perfect as heaven, and everyone was happy. Then, some stupid guy came from out of nowhere and told me I had no right to be God.  ::) I couldn't remember what happened after that. I woke up a little while later cuz I had to go potty.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 23, 2010, 03:32:59 AM
Dreamed I had inherited money from a neighbor and bought an Acura NSX. I enjoyed the car very much, and was disappointed to wake up...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: (: premont :) on April 25, 2010, 01:50:21 PM
Anyone else have half of their dreams about before they turned 13? Or maybe it's just my age to begin with. Probably 10 years from now, I'll have dreams about the school I just graduated from, since I liked that place. Who knows.

I think this is a very common thing. Quite a lot of my dreams take place more than 20 years ago, judged from the characters who occur there.
And in many of my dreams I am about 20 years younger even if the characters who occur are from to day.
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Post by: greg on April 25, 2010, 03:16:14 PM
Cool. I figured that might be the case.
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Post by: greg on May 29, 2010, 04:18:11 AM
Last night, I dreamed that gray clouds started covering the sky. At first, it was mainly a clear sky with  scattered clouds, but there was a huge area in the sky that had some of the meanest, darkest looking clouds I've ever seen. Then, all of the sky just kept on getting covered gradually, until the whole world was covered in gray clouds. There was no light anywhere. People tried to get rid of the clouds, but they stayed there forever (how can you change the weather?), and every time you went outside, you had a good chance of getting struck by lightning. And that was that. THEND
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Post by: greg on July 05, 2010, 12:18:39 PM
The last 2 nights, my dreams have taken place in my old neighborhood. Again. Holy shit... nearly half of my dreams take place there.

In the first dream, I was at the driveway of my friend's house. Our bikes were there, but the air in the tires were flat- maybe because it's been over 10 years since I even lived there? I was alone, and the place was so desolate. None of my friends were around, and it was honestly quite sad and almost creepy.

In the second dream, I was at my old house (same neighborhood), in the garage. I was fighting a demon (looked like some sort of 7 foot tall white monster). Then he used invisibility and ran into the kitchen. My mom was in there and asked where he went. I touched the kitchen floor and could feel him lying down, even though he was invisible. However, even though I tried to attack him, he stood up and kinda went into my body. At first, it was a bit scary, and he felt like a bunch of static electricity. After about 10 seconds though, he had completely absorbed himself into me, and I didn't feel anything. I got used to it.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 16, 2010, 04:57:45 AM
Another dream of my old neighborhood...  ???
This time, I could see my basketball hoop still at my friend's house (I gave it to him 10 years ago when I moved a couple of miles away to another neighborhood). I don't think it had a rim anymore, it was so old. Also, it looked like there were basketball hoops all over the place.

Again, this time, it was the present and I was looking at what looked like a deserted neighborhood. However, this time, a bunch of new people came and we played hacky-sack or something.

It became more apparent than ever that the reason for this recurring dream is that my subconscious just wishes I had more friends accessible. I basically hardly ever get to see any of my friends any more, for various reasons. Back then, I literally had 6 close friends within a small circle of a neighborhood- I could walk to any of their houses in less than a minute.

I guess I'll be stuck with this recurring dream. Nothing I can do to fix it...
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Post by: greg on July 22, 2010, 04:58:11 AM
2 dreams last night:

1. I did something that I can't remember to cause me to be able to see spirits. They would constantly fly right by me, and it would be irritating. At the end, one tried to attack me. It turned into a picture of an apple, went straight to me, I dodged it, then it kept on changing form and trying to hit me.

2. This one mostly involved people on here, but in real life. We formed teams, and were going to have a shootout in one of my old neighborhoods. Me, Sarge and Karl formed part of one team, but I can't remember who else was on our team nor who was on the other team. Eventually, I realized that since we were using real guns, I thought it was completely stupid, so I just dropped the gun and walked off.

These dreams were extremely clear and detailed, but I just can't remember many of the details.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: drogulus on September 25, 2010, 05:57:25 AM

    Wouldn't it be nice if you could have one of those "this isn't a dream, this is really happening!" moments? Then you could wake up and "Oh, it was a dream, just a really interesting one." Then a giant cockroach scuttles over to you and says "...." Oh, I don't know if it matters what he says exactly, since by this time you're probably not all that interested in what any giant insect says, being too involved in screaming and trying to wake up again. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)

     
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 25, 2010, 08:26:30 AM
Was it a flying one? I've had a flying one land on me before when I was trying to fall asleep.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 17, 2010, 11:09:41 AM
Last night I dreamed I heard a voice in my head, which I would talk to. When I asked who this voice was, it said, "You don't want to know. If you found out, it would give you a heart attack," so I didn't ask again. The voice ended up being a demon, and I would ask him stuff, and he would provide every single one of my wishes to come true. 

At the end of the dream, I stepped into a movie theater which turned out not be a movie theater, but some abstract place where there was a bunch of screaming, demons, random lines of paint through the air, and lights flickering on and off. It was as if my mind was breaking down and dying in the way some hard drives do.

This might sound like a torturous, Schizophrenic dream, but it actually felt extremely good. I was in such an excessively deep sleep, that when I woke up, I just thought "wtf? Where am I?"

(i guess in my dreams i went from being chased by demons to having fun with them. Stupid).  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on October 17, 2010, 01:12:02 PM
This isn't a dream, but I thought it was funny.  As I was waking up in the middle of the night a few days ago I looked at my alarm clock but I was so out of it that I couldn't figure out what the #s meant!  And then I thought maybe it's an address??! :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 17, 2010, 02:25:35 PM
This isn't a dream, but I thought it was funny.  As I was waking up in the middle of the night a few days ago I looked at my alarm clock but I was so out of it that I couldn't figure out what the #s meant!  And then I thought maybe it's an address??! :D
Lol, I've done that before.

Just now I took a nap, and when I woke up I couldn't remember how I even fell asleep. I thought I had already taken a nap...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on December 11, 2010, 07:41:26 AM
Last night was not a very good dream. It was very vivid, which was probably a bad thing.

I was in a city with a version of me from the future, which looked slightly different. That was bad, because the cops were trying to hunt down people from the future, and the "slightly different" look was a clue.

We were walking down the street when, in the distance, we saw a commotion involving cop cars. Then, fire broke out. We decided to go in the other direction. However, one bad thing after another started happening around us, and within a few minutes the whole city was a complete disaster. Random shootings, buildings melting down from fires, bombs, explosions, sirens, people dying everywhere... the whole sky turned gray from the smoke. We ran as far as we could, narrowly avoiding it all.

Eventually, we came out of the city and into a more peaceful setting. I was going to school and it was fine at first. Then, at school, this gay guy with tattoos started talking to me in an uncomfortable way, and I started thinking, "ummmmmmm.... I think I want to move somewhere else now."  :-X

Then I woke up. For a nightmare, it was still kind of fun dodging bullets and explosions while everyone around me was dying.  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Brian on December 11, 2010, 01:15:16 PM
Last week I had a dream that I was on a staircase and Alan Rickman came up and serenaded me with a guitar. The song was "The Ball of Kerrymuir." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2NISXa1Qok) Odd.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on January 18, 2011, 05:24:36 PM
Another nostalgia dream.
I was thinking about two of my best friends, who live together (dating each other) about 30 min. from where I live. I used to see them every day, but I haven't seen them in about 9 or 10 months, even though we've tried but have had trouble keeping in contact.

I dreamed they moved into a different house within the same city... thinking about it, it's like my brain exploded with nostalgia. It's the same exact feeling when I had that dream several months ago about a girl I used to work with (a month or two after she left).

The effect is the exact same feeling as listening to much of Mahler (Symphonies 9 and 10 mostly)- depressing and ecstatic at the same time, and no other music comes close to describing this feeling (besides, I guess, Tristan und Isolde). I wish I knew what chemical is being released in the brain when that happens, because it's my favorite!  ;D 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: CD on January 18, 2011, 06:37:05 PM
Last night I had a dream I was a character in the world of the Terminator movies, but this one had humans resorting to implanting robotic parts into their body in order to beat the machines — I had to find this eccentric doctor in the past (or today) who knew about the Terminators but who was going insane so he could replace my spine with a robotic spine. I remember running through a giant mall with a glass ceiling.

So weird how I almost never remember my dreams, but then I have some that are so vivid and strange.
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Post by: greg on January 18, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
Sounds like a typical action movie plot.  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 03, 2011, 06:47:40 AM
Last night: outside with my friend, Meredith. Walking around some random area on a sidewalk by the road, with not many people out but what looked like half-built houses and car repair garages around. It was the middle of the daytime, and she wanted to show me something.

She had a cup (those small, cone-shaped plastic cups), and inside of it was some sort of small rocket. When she touched the fuse at the bottom of it, it suddenly flew into the air quickly and kept on soaring. It was really amazing. The dream itself was very peaceful, too.

She's one of the friends I mentioned in my last post.  ::) I haven't seen them in almost a year now...




A few nights ago, I almost dreamed again about my neighborhood. One was me playing basketball at my old house (whoever lives there now caught me while coming home, but they said it was okay). Another was me visiting my friend's house on the next street (this is so recurring it isn't even funny).


All of these dreams were exceptionally clear...
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Post by: ibanezmonster on March 09, 2011, 03:01:09 PM
Last night: had a lucid dream.
It was just me and my mom walking down the street in an area about a block away from one of my old houses. That's it- however, I noticed that everything was perfectly clear and had incredible detail. It came to the point to where I said, "I'm here. For real."

I felt like I crossed the uncanny valley... or at least 99% of the way through it. It's kind of like this video- mostly real-looking, but if you pay attention to the details (looking at the mouth), it's still soooooooooooo close to being "there".

http://www.youtube.com/v/bLiX5d3rC6o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 10, 2011, 06:27:09 AM
While I was sleeping, it was storming outside. Then I hear something flying into my room. It went into my bed, and I thought it was a bird- however, the shape of it felt like a dog. I try to take off the cover to check, and there is nothing there because I've just woken up and it was a dream.   ::) It felt so real, though...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 23, 2011, 02:53:15 AM
Anyone ever been in an abnormally deep sleep before?
You'll know it when you experience it... and it is pretty trippy when you come out of it and realize what happened.

I think a lot happened in my dream at the beginning that I can't remember, but after that, I remember going into this room in a shopping plaza that was meant for group meetings (and stuff like AA, for example). I sat at a table with a bunch of girls. They tried talking to me, but I was so tired that I couldn't reply and didn't even care to reply, so I slept (yes, I slept in my dream). Then, the second group came in- this time, just a bunch of regular people, all my age, all talking about something. I got bored and wanted to leave.

It's hard to describe what I mean by an abnormally deep sleep... it's like being so far gone, that when you wake up, the world when you wake up is like a foreign planet and you don't even understand why you're there.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 17, 2011, 11:58:05 AM
Now I'm seriously trying to do some WILD (wake-induced lucid dreaming). I think the only times I've had any success lucid dreaming where when I've used this technique, but I haven't honed it or done it rigorously.

The technique is to wake yourself up around 6 or so hours into your sleep (say, if you get 8 hours you still have two hours left). Go back to sleep, but as you are falling back asleep, keep saying to yourself, "I am asleep." You can then transition into a dream with knowledge that you are asleep.

It worked last night, but I made a mistake. I was reading about sleep paralysis, and as I was falling asleep, I started thinking about it. I really was asleep, because I tried to move my body and couldn't. But the unpleasantness of sleep paralysis started seriously annoying me, and I forced myself to wake up.

Next time, if I think about it, I'll just have to relax. I know some techniques to keep lucid dreams intact, such as spinning in your dreams (I've used that before successfully), so I probably won't have to practice a crazy amount to be able to do this.

If you can't live the dream, you can always dream the dream...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on May 17, 2011, 12:48:09 PM
I dreamed that I had a son (I don't) and we were taking a hike through a forest.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 17, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
I dreamed that I had a son (I don't) and we were taking a hike through a forest.
It's always fun to dream visually people you haven't even seen, or who don't exist. How does the mind guess what the person would look like?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on May 17, 2011, 04:40:06 PM
It's always fun to dream visually people you haven't even seen, or who don't exist. How does the mind guess what the person would look like?

Yeah it's weird.  I've had dreams with a pet dog, and it's black with some streaks of dark blond.  I've never seen that dog before or anything like it in real life, but there it was in my dream!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 20, 2011, 05:09:09 AM
I researched what the most effective technique to induce a lucid dream was, and I tried it last night for the first time, and had success.  :)

The technique is WBTB (Wake Back to Bed). What you do is, say you are getting 8 or 9 hours of sleep. Sleep for 6 hours, then stay up for 30-60 minutes. During the time you stay up, wake yourself up to where you aren't feeling very tired. Also during that time, think about lucid dreaming somehow.

The way I implemented this technique was to just use the bathroom when I got up (it's important that you actually get out of bed!), then go online and read about lucid dreaming for 20 minutes and then try to go back to sleep (which took me an extra ~20 minutes to do). You know you are dreaming when your thoughts are somewhat vivid (instead of random imagery) and if you know you have sleep paralysis (just try to move your arm in your dream- you can move your "dream" arm, but you won't be able to move your real, physical arm).

In my lucid dream, I kind of had to go with whatever my thoughts were taking me to keep it stable, but I ended up going back to my friend's house (of 10-14 years ago) to play video games. During the strongest point in this dream, I had complete clarity while knowing I was dreaming. This is what I'm aiming for, too- it was literally as clear as reality itself while I was walking through his living room (but that perfect clarity lasted for only about 20 seconds, unfortunately). In his room, I didn't realize it while dreaming, but the video games and TV were on the wrong side of the wall.  :D

About that time, I heard a noise in my room and woke up for a second. After that, it was about impossible to get back to that clarity for several reasons- the noise of people outside my room, the fact that I had completed a REM cycle and might not have had another one, etc. It's strange witnessing the very process of consciousness- at one point, I came from somewhat decent clarity to where other random images started popping up in my head when I didn't want them to, obscuring clarity, and eventually bringing myself to wake up.

So... I will work on that perfect clarity I got and extend it as much as possible. I want to be a flying human who can fly to Akihabara and play a concert on guitar for everyone!  8) ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 09, 2011, 06:24:24 AM
I researched what the most effective technique to induce a lucid dream was, and I tried it last night for the first time, and had success.  :)
I could probably do this every day if the timing didn't include other people in the house waking up at that time and making enough noise to where I can't go back to sleep. I'm not even trying this any more.



Anyways, I've been trying to figure out how to induce auditory hallucinations, and it happened accidentally this morning. I woke up and thought I was hearing a couple of notes (sounded something like the clean, reverb notes of Meshuggah), but obviously wasn't.

But how can you take that and apply it to something like: being completely awake and imagining music so clear that you think you are hearing it even if you aren't? If anyone can try to figure this out, I'd be glad.

Also, I wonder how much thinking about these things with interest (like they are a novelty) and then sleeping has to do with their success.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 18, 2011, 04:04:00 AM
I dreamed I talked to Brian on the phone. (GMG's Brian)

Then, in another dream, I was with a couple of guys at this place where Wal-Mart used to be in the city I used to live in, loading something into this old lady's car. Chris Webber (former NBA player, now a broadcaster) was there, too, but he left and when inside. We turned on the radio and heard him making jokes about this lady and how ridiculous she was.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 25, 2011, 06:58:41 AM
Anyone ever have sound hallucinations in the morning of people talking to you?

I would imagine this is the most common type of hallucination there is. I thought my dad was telling me, "Wake up," this morning, but obviously wasn't. I think I've had these before, but it's been a while. Probably anyone who goes through a period of time where someone wakes them up audibly every morning would have these every once in a while, but that's not the case for me now, so that's probably why.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on July 25, 2011, 07:57:15 AM
I had a dream recently that I still remember... my Mother drove up to visit me, got in a car wreck and died.  I was responsible for transporting the body and picking out the casket for the funeral.  It was kind of dark.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 25, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
 :-X
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on July 25, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
Anyone ever have sound hallucinations in the morning of people talking to you?

Not me. Isn't that a primary symptom of psychosis?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: DavidW on July 25, 2011, 10:34:19 AM
Not me (I don't hear voices), but yesterday morning I kept hearing a Katy Perry song in my head before I fully awakened... which is probably worse! :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on July 25, 2011, 10:40:39 AM
Not me (I don't hear voices), but yesterday morning I kept hearing a Katy Perry song in my head before I fully awakened... which is probably worse! :D

I think that's full-blown schizophrenia!    ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: knight66 on July 25, 2011, 10:57:08 AM
Not me. Isn't that a primary symptom of psychosis?

Not by any means. There is a small percentage of the population that has Audio Hallucination Syndrome. There is no cure for it, the individuals have to live with it using coping strategies. If diagnosed as AHS, it is not a sign of being psychotic.

Mike
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on July 25, 2011, 11:28:40 AM
Not by any means. There is a small percentage of the population that has Audio Hallucination Syndrome. There is no cure for it, the individuals have to live with it using coping strategies. If diagnosed as AHS, it is not a sign of being psychotic.

Mike

Interesting! My original comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, of course, but I find the subject of audio hallucinations fascinating. I've never heard of AHS and a google search doesn't come up with much. Do sufferers actually hear voices speaking to them as opposed to buzzing or clicking type sounds?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: knight66 on July 25, 2011, 02:05:22 PM
There are degrees of it. Some have one voice, others have multiple voices. My son has this condition and we knew nothing of it until he was about 16. He cannot remember when he did not have it and what he gets is a large group of voices shouting at him all the time. Needless to say, he has had difficulty getting to sleep and tends to leave the radio on to get to sleep.

Although this is seemingly a chemical issue in the brain; whilst some people can make a friend out of their voices, my son has had to cope with voices being entirely negative about him and shouting all the time.

He rarely will discuss this at all. The treatment he had provided some coping techniques. At present he seems to be going through a good phase and can counteract or phase them out. But if he is depressed, this condition makes things a lot worse.

He did tell me that over his memory there was twice when he woke up and it was silent. He was amazed, but the voices kicked in again.

Initially on learning that he was experiencing this disturbance we assumed he was psychotic; but he was carefully diagnosed. He has never thought that the voices were real, but I don't know how he manages to cope with it. It has to be deeply disturbing and for sure it disrupted his powers of concentration when he was a teenager and lead to some pretty disturbing behaviour while he got to grips with himself.

Mike
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Antoine Marchand on July 25, 2011, 02:34:19 PM
There are degrees of it. Some have one voice, others have multiple voices. My son has this condition and we knew nothing of it until he was about 16. He cannot remember when he did not have it and what he gets is a large group of voices shouting at him all the time. Needless to say, he has had difficulty getting to sleep and tends to leave the radio on to get to sleep.

Although this is seemingly a chemical issue in the brain; whilst some people can make a friend out of their voices, my son has had to cope with voices being entirely negative about him and shouting all the time.

He rarely will discuss this at all. The treatment he had provided some coping techniques. At present he seems to be going through a good phase and can counteract or phase them out. But if he is depressed, this condition makes things a lot worse.

He did tell me that over his memory there was twice when he woke up and it was silent. He was amazed, but the voices kicked in again.

Initially on learning that he was experiencing this disturbance we assumed he was psychotic; but he was carefully diagnosed. He has never thought that the voices were real, but I don't know how he manages to cope with it. It has to be deeply disturbing and for sure it disrupted his powers of concentration when he was a teenager and lead to some pretty disturbing behaviour while he got to grips with himself.

Mike

I'm sorry, Mike. It must really difficult to live with this disorder. I hope your son gets to control it and to live a good life. Maybe someday science will find a cure.   
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: knight66 on July 25, 2011, 03:07:24 PM
Thanks, he is getting on with his life; but it has been a real trial for him

Mike
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on July 25, 2011, 03:52:05 PM
I'm sorry, Mike. It must really difficult to live with this disorder. I hope your son gets to control it and to live a good life. Maybe someday science will find a cure.   

That goes for me too, Mike. Being a teenager today is hard enough without that additional burden.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 25, 2011, 06:31:23 PM
There are degrees of it. Some have one voice, others have multiple voices. My son has this condition and we knew nothing of it until he was about 16. He cannot remember when he did not have it and what he gets is a large group of voices shouting at him all the time. Needless to say, he has had difficulty getting to sleep and tends to leave the radio on to get to sleep.

Although this is seemingly a chemical issue in the brain; whilst some people can make a friend out of their voices, my son has had to cope with voices being entirely negative about him and shouting all the time.

He rarely will discuss this at all. The treatment he had provided some coping techniques. At present he seems to be going through a good phase and can counteract or phase them out. But if he is depressed, this condition makes things a lot worse.

He did tell me that over his memory there was twice when he woke up and it was silent. He was amazed, but the voices kicked in again.

Initially on learning that he was experiencing this disturbance we assumed he was psychotic; but he was carefully diagnosed. He has never thought that the voices were real, but I don't know how he manages to cope with it. It has to be deeply disturbing and for sure it disrupted his powers of concentration when he was a teenager and lead to some pretty disturbing behaviour while he got to grips with himself.

Mike
That would suck to have.  :(


I thought it would be cool to use audio at your own command- sure, you have your mind, but it doesn't sound as realistic as an mp3 player. Like a switch.

Same for visual hallucinations when you close your eyes- I actually was able to lucid dream for a minute a few nights ago, but panicked because when you realize you're dreaming, you start to think about sleep paralysis and the fact that you have no control over your body- that ends it abruptly.

I've been trying to catch the particular moment when drifting off where you can start the dream, so catching it that time after all that effort is nice (1/10+ success rate).  ::) Doing a "WILD" is something that takes skill and practice, but once you master it, you can lucid dream at will and do anything you want.  8)

I'm only using the term "audio hallucinations" to neatly describe them. They're perfectly normal during a hypnopompic state. It's more like hearing a noise, voice, or music, and then waking up from either sleep or being half-asleep to discover is was just your imagination.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 25, 2011, 08:02:57 PM

I thought it would be cool to use audio at your own command- sure, you have your mind, but it doesn't sound as realistic as an mp3 player. Like a switch.

Same for visual hallucinations when you close your eyes- I actually was able to lucid dream for a minute a few nights ago, but panicked because when you realize you're dreaming, you start to think about sleep paralysis and the fact that you have no control over your body- that ends it abruptly.

I've been trying to catch the particular moment when drifting off where you can start the dream, so catching it that time after all that effort is nice (1/10+ success rate).  ::) Doing a "WILD" is something that takes skill and practice, but once you master it, you can lucid dream at will and do anything you want.  8)

I'm only using the term "audio hallucinations" to neatly describe them. They're perfectly normal during a hypnopompic state. It's more like hearing a noise, voice, or music, and then waking up from either sleep or being half-asleep to discover is was just your imagination.

You need to get out more.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 26, 2011, 06:46:45 AM
Attempted a WILD again this morning... I had a semi-dream about chasing something, like in a 3D video game. Then I came to point where something just completely "clicked"- everything was completely realistic. But then, I took my focus off of it and it faded. lol  :D
Seems more reassuring now that if I keep trying, I can make small steps here and there until I can eventually master the technique, hopefully.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 26, 2011, 07:56:45 AM
Attempted a WILD again this morning... I had a semi-dream about chasing something, like in a 3D video game. Then I came to point where something just completely "clicked"- everything was completely realistic. But then, I took my focus off of it and it faded. lol  :D
Seems more reassuring now that if I keep trying, I can make small steps here and there until I can eventually master the technique, hopefully.

Why is any of this important to you, Greg? Don't you have better things to do with your free time? No wonder you don't have a girlfriend. You weird people out and scare them off. I'm beginning to think that you're going to end up being one of those guys who are the village idiot.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: springrite on July 26, 2011, 08:11:11 AM
Well, not MY dream but, Kimi talked in her sleep last night. To my astonishment, she talked in English in her sleep. I don't know what the dream was all about, but she did say "But daddy, you are going the wrong way!" Maybe she was being a backseat driver.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 26, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
Why is any of this important to you, Greg? Don't you have better things to do with your free time? No wonder you don't have a girlfriend. You weird people out and scare them off. I'm beginning to think that you're going to end up being one of those guys who are the village idiot.
You are just trying to be provocative.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 26, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
You are just trying to be provocative.

No, I'm trying to talk some sense into you.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 26, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
I'm not sure what you mean. I don't talk about lucid dreaming to people in real life. If anything, I probably bore people to death because I am generally not/don't know how to be interested in most people.

As for the "getting out" thing, I "get out" every single day. I work 5 days a week (just finished my 8 days straight), and on my days off I hang out with friends. I do average 7 posts here a day (I'm on the computer all day because I'm constantly practicing programming), but you average 15 a day. Hopefully, you "get out," too.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 26, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
I'm not sure what you mean. I don't talk about lucid dreaming to people in real life. If anything, I probably bore people to death because I am generally not/don't know how to be interested in most people.

As for the "getting out" thing, I "get out" every single day. I work 5 days a week (just finished my 8 days straight), and on my days off I hang out with friends. I do average 7 posts here a day (I'm on the computer all day because I'm constantly practicing programming), but you average 15 a day. Hopefully, you "get out," too.

I was joking with you about the getting out more. You're familiar with the way a joke works right? ;) Anyway, you don't know how to be interested in people? It seems like to me that you spend an awful lot of time talking about yourself instead of genuinely taking an interest in someone else. I'm certainly not saying you should fake an interest in people because I sure as hell don't, but I do think there are some interesting people out there that are worth knowing, that is, if you give them a chance.

By the way, how are your woman problems going? You still not being aggressive enough?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 26, 2011, 06:20:28 PM
Well, it's just hard to talk to certain people because they don't really have much to offer other than general stuff (most of which I don't find interesting). So it's difficult to connect completely. I probably have an average amount of friends/acquaintances, but if I were to randomly chat up a stranger on the street, I would completely lost. All of my friends that "truly share the same specific interests as me" are all scattered around in different cities right now, so I rarely get to see them.

As for "woman problems..."  meh, I don't mind being single. I guess the good part about being too introverted is that you almost never feel lonely, even when it comes to women. I'm not saying I wouldn't appreciate it, but if you add the stuff you have to deal with/risks that come with a relationship, it pretty much evens out.

As for "not being aggressive enough..." I guess not, mainly because of the above paragraph. I don't know any girls and have no idea how people even find them, in the first place. I guess I could start by asking you?...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 26, 2011, 06:32:03 PM
Well, it's just hard to talk to certain people because they don't really have much to offer other than general stuff (most of which I don't find interesting). So it's difficult to connect completely. I probably have an average amount of friends/acquaintances, but if I were to randomly chat up a stranger on the street, I would completely lost. All of my friends that "truly share the same specific interests as me" are all scattered around in different cities right now, so I rarely get to see them.

As for "woman problems..."  meh, I don't mind being single. I guess the good part about being too introverted is that you almost never feel lonely, even when it comes to women. I'm not saying I wouldn't appreciate it, but if you add the stuff you have to deal with/risks that come with a relationship, it pretty much evens out.

As for "not being aggressive enough..." I guess not, mainly because of the above paragraph. I don't know any girls and have no idea how people even find them, in the first place. I guess I could start by asking you?...

Women can be found everywhere, Greg. I'm not in a relationship right now, but I would like to be. I think there's nothing quite like being with a woman who appreciates you and loves being around you. I would say one of the best places to meet women is a grocery store. Food, like music, movies, and art, has a way of bringing certain kinds of people together. My dream woman would be into some kind of art. It doesn't have to be music, because I don't expect anyone to like the same music I do, but I can connect with a woman who paints, cooks, loves movies, etc. You don't have to have everything in common. Differences are what make a relationship challenging, but ultimately rewarding I think.

I'm certainly not a woman expert, but I know what kind of woman I like: intelligent, kind, a good sense of humor, and easy-going. It may be hard to find, but I'm optimistic that the woman for me is out there. She may not even be my own race or nationality.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 26, 2011, 06:45:17 PM
A grocery store... really? Well, I guess so. If that's all we can think of, you know we're from the south.  :(

But realistically, would you actually approach a woman at a grocery store and have a conversation and then ask for a phone number or e-mail address? I don't know about you, but that would just be a disaster for me.

I'm guessing the vast majority of people meet through either work, school, parties, bars, or mutual friends.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 26, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
A grocery store... really? Well, I guess so. If that's all we can think of, you know we're from the south.  :(

But realistically, would you actually approach a woman at a grocery store and have a conversation and then ask for a phone number or e-mail address? I don't know about you, but that would just be a disaster for me.

I'm guessing the vast majority of people meet through either work, school, parties, bars, or mutual friends.

Well a lot of women go to grocery stores. I don't think being from the South has anything to do with anything to be honest. I think you have only a 50/50 shot with a woman no matter where you ask her for a date. I don't hang out at bars or nightclubs so this has never interested me. I remember one time I was on vacation in Chattanooga, TN. and I went to a nightclub just to see what all the fuss was about. I looked around, nodded my head, and left in 10 minutes. I've had numerous people tell me that they thought I was an old soul trapped in a young man's body. I guess this could be true. I'm certainly not "hip" to what the young people that's for sure.

Perhaps I'm socially awkward too? :D I guess in some ways we all are even the people who appear to be extroverted. They could be this way to keep a barrier between them and somebody else. There are genuinely nice people out there, but sometimes you have to wonder what their motive is? Oh geez....I'm starting to sound a little paranoid now. I guess I'm a lot more stranger than you! ;) ;D

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 26, 2011, 08:48:50 PM
By the way, Greg, just out of curiosity, how do you work 8 days in a row if you're off two days a week?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 27, 2011, 08:08:38 AM
I probably would have done the same thing if I were at a nightclub. Maybe you need to be on ecstasy to understand it?

By the way, Greg, just out of curiosity, how do you work 8 days in a row if you're off two days a week?
Just some stupid thing they do after you take a week vacation- they make everyone work 7-10 days straight. Schedules are random and hours depend on the season, but the standard being off 2 days a week is pretty much how each week goes, besides that.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: karlhenning on July 27, 2011, 08:18:35 AM
That bites when they punish you for taking time off (which is a deserved benefit, not any "special favor" you're asking of your employer).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: TheGSMoeller on July 27, 2011, 08:28:46 AM
My wife told me she had a dream last night that I died...I must now sleep with one eye open.  :o
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on July 27, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
My wife told me she had a dream last night that I died...I must now sleep with one eye open.  :o

My wife watches this show every weekend. Maybe I should be sleeping with one eye open, too!   :o

(http://sharetv.org/images/snapped-show.jpg)

http://sharetv.org/shows/snapped (http://sharetv.org/shows/snapped)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 27, 2011, 05:03:15 PM
Just some stupid thing they do after you take a week vacation- they make everyone work 7-10 days straight. Schedules are random and hours depend on the season, but the standard being off 2 days a week is pretty much how each week goes, besides that.

That stinks man. My days off are always Mondays and Tuesdays and I work Wed-Sun. Not bad. Coming up, not this weekend, but next weekend, I'll be off Sat-Tues. It's going to be sweet.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 27, 2011, 05:29:43 PM
Set schedules can be nice. Another good thing about set schedules is that usually you don't have to experience close-opens.

My 8 days I guess wasn't too bad in comparison to others, who have had 9 or 10 days straight, and they are close to full-time (mine were 7 5-hour days and 1 4-hour day). One of the girls told me after she worked 9 days straight, she felt like murdering everyone (and she is about as happy-go-lucky as you can get). I also heard that another guy (who pretty much has nearly the same personality- always happy and joking around) worked 10 days straight, and on the 10th day he got so mad that he threw his phone against the wall.

Anyone who says that consuming your whole life with work is good for you is either completely stupid or assumes that everyone who doesn't work would spend all of their free time on the couch, eating Cheetos and watching TV.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on July 27, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
Set schedules can be nice. Another good thing about set schedules is that usually you don't have to experience close-opens.

My 8 days I guess wasn't too bad in comparison to others, who have had 9 or 10 days straight, and they are close to full-time (mine were 7 5-hour days and 1 4-hour day). One of the girls told me after she worked 9 days straight, she felt like murdering everyone (and she is about as happy-go-lucky as you can get). I also heard that another guy (who pretty much has nearly the same personality- always happy and joking around) worked 10 days straight, and on the 10th day he got so mad that he threw his phone against the wall.

Anyone who says that consuming your whole life with work is good for you is either completely stupid or assumes that everyone who doesn't work would spend all of their free time on the couch, eating Cheetos and watching TV.

Yes, set schedules are very nice. ;) With a set schedule you can plan something on your days off. One thing about my schedule is I only work the closing shift 1 pm - 9 pm. I don't have to worry about getting up early and like you said those close/open shifts. I hate those because you never get enough rest and you can't relax.

If work consumes an entire person's life, then I think this quite unfortunate, but no matter what I'm doing, I just try to enjoy myself.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 09, 2011, 04:43:27 AM
Had another lucid dream last night, but for some reason it was only like I was half-aware of it.

It was pretty awesome, because it was one of those flying dreams- I was on the ground, looked up to the sky, and knew I couldn't get hurt if I fell, so I just calmly lifted myself straight up into the sky. That's my only clear memory of the dream right now, but I think I flew to some gigantic nest in a tree or something.

It is a fantastic feeling, being able to fly.  :)


This seems to be the most effective technique to induce LD- I have to be in the mood to do so first. Then, I read about it in the LD forums online for about 30 minutes. Then, I close my eyes to sleep, but persistently focus on the hypnagogic images (even if it takes longer to fall asleep this way) until I black out. A little bit later, when the REM cycle starts, it's easy to "catch" it. All you do is follow your images again and you get the clarity. Sometimes you discover sleep paralysis along with it (being aware of your sleeping body, yet not being able to move it). My technique is similar to others, but not 100% the same... I won't make up a name for it for now, because there are already so many techniques (WILD, WBTB, MILD, DEILD, VILD, ADA, etc.)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 11, 2011, 06:49:44 AM
Another LD...
this one being like the opposite of the last one. During the last one, I was vaguely aware I was dreaming, but had full control.
During this one, I had excellent clarity (the only similarity), but no control.

If I tried to picture anything, it would come out distorted, and I couldn't even move. Then, the dream started dying and while blacking out, I tried to maintain awareness so I could slip into the next dream. I succeeded somewhat... After a few seconds of blackness while trying to keep my mind from falling asleep or waking up, I experienced some sleep paralysis- it felt like my whole body was being lit up by static electricity for a few seconds, and I heard some strange noises. I think I went into another dream, but at that point, I was somewhat waking up because I could hear noises from the living room and couldn't completely fall back asleep.

This is all a pretty common experience, especially for those who haven't completely mastered the technique. But this time, I'm well on my way towards that, especially compared to before.  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 18, 2011, 04:31:16 AM
I had another auditory hallucination while half-waking up- my dad calling my name once.
And a dream about a childhood friend I hadn't seen in years visiting... that'll never happen.  :-X

But I did have a bit more success getting somewhat lucid in a dream or two. I was somewhat aware I was dreaming and tried to control things, but imagery wasn't sharp enough. It's weird how I have more success at becoming lucid using my own technique instead of using a dream journal (though I bet that would help).

The trick for clarity and dream recall is to take some form of vitamin B6. Bananas and cheddar cheese are supposed to be the best before bed, so I'll have to try that.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 21, 2011, 12:40:11 PM
I just took a little bit of NO-Xplode and worked out, and I actually noticed a difference. Even before then, I noticed a bit of tingling, which is supposed to happen because of the beta alanine. Also has some B6 in it. 

Well, let's see how this B6 thing goes. I bought 100 tablets (100 mg each) and will try 50 mg tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sandra on August 21, 2011, 11:14:33 PM
Amazing that I stopped having nightmares after watching a few scary A&E murderer stories, and a few horror movies 5 year ago.

Anyone had a similar experience of nightmares disappearing forever after opening yourself up to some horror-movie experience?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 22, 2011, 05:43:50 AM
Amazing that I stopped having nightmares after watching a few scary A&E murderer stories, and a few horror movies 5 year ago.

Anyone had a similar experience of nightmares disappearing forever after opening yourself up to some horror-movie experience?
That sounds weird, but probably not considering how dreams often work- less shock value, less dreams, maybe.



I guess 50mg wasn't enough for a very noticeable effect (dreams were just slightly clearer than normal). I'll try 100mg tonight- hopefully that'll be enough. 200mg is supposed to work even better, but it's really not a good idea to take more than that at one time.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sandra on August 22, 2011, 12:03:02 PM
less shock value, less dreams, maybe.


Yep! I think that's it.

When you watch Jeff Duhmer speak - so eloquently and clearly... you're thinking maybe serial killers aren't that bad after all.  :D

But, seriously, I do think that realizing that some humans are simply disadvantaged and have criminal impulses somehow makes life less terrifying. You just learn how to deal with those you love and trust and how to (safely) tolerate more anti-social people. Statistics look pretty good too. Turns out that evil people are pretty rare.   
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 23, 2011, 05:14:33 AM
Yeah, probably some of them have criminal impulses, mixed with a lack of conscience. Not a good combination.  :o


Okay, 100 mg of b6 last night... it worked in a way similar to what I expected, but not completely.
When people say "clearer dreams," I think they mean that if it is not a lucid dream, then, it will get as clear as can be for a non-LD. The clearest a non-LD can get is basically movie-quality. The clearest a LD can get is actually being there-quality.

I took nearly 2 hours to fall asleep (hopefully not because of the pill). I had an "epic" dream about seeing a space shuttle launch in the distance (I live in Florida, so this used to be a common sighting), but it fell back to the ground and crashed. The explosion was so large that it took out the city it was in, and the explosion came like a tidal wave up to where I was, and I and everyone around me had to climb up a building to not be in danger.

(possibly influenced by the video game I was playing last night)...  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 25, 2011, 04:10:11 AM
Okay, I think I will only be trying this b6 thing every now and then (or when I eventually get consistent at lucid dreaming). The side effects outweigh the benefits right now.

I took two pills last night (total: 200mg), which is a near-guaranteed effect, but also the maximum safest amount you can take. Yet again, falling asleep was unusually difficult. It makes you alert and concentrated, which is not good for falling asleep.

The real side effect is that, yet again, it gave me a bad dream. This time, I was driving with my friend's roommate and crashed full speed, head-on, into a semi (then I woke up). Even while falling asleep, my mind when to some strange, but similar, thoughts. I rarely get nightmares...

Both of these are known possible side effects... I'll just keep the pills in handy down the road, but for now, no.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 01, 2011, 06:02:23 AM
It's been about 3 weeks since I had a lucid dream...   :-X
but, I did become lucid last night.  :)

I became aware I was lucid, and then, for fun, looked into the mirror to see how accurately it portrayed me. At first, it was pretty good, but after a couple of seconds, it started distorting my image more and more, into strange shapes, and then the dream started fading.

If I can figure out the way to get lucid every time I tried, then I will worry about the next step- maintaining awareness, clarity, and being able to actually impose my will on the dream without ruining it.

For now, I'll have to keep on trying to unlock the "code" (and I think the method is slightly different for each person). What I did differently was 1) to give up "expecting" a lucid dream; 2) took an unexpected nap for an hour or two during the early evening, so I couldn't fall asleep for about 2 hours later than I normally fall asleep; 3) while trying to fall asleep, played the game of catching every step of the way of falling asleep (catching when your thoughts break down into illogic, images become sharper, etc.). This is exactly how I became lucid during my last try 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 04, 2011, 06:27:39 AM
No lucids on the 2nd or 3rd, but one last night. However, it was so short I hardly remember anything from it.

I was reading this thread:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/possibly-key-lucid-dreaming-114161/

and tried this completely new technique last night. He joking refers to it as "BILD" (Belief-induced lucid dream).

It's simple: tell yourself you lucid dream all the time, and it's normal. Don't even try to convince yourself, just accept it as fact whether it is reality or not, and it will become true.

The only reason why I decided to do this is because of the overwhelming success rate of the people posting in the thread compared to the people posting in other threads trying the standard techniques.

There may be something to this- that's similar to how I learned to play guitar so quickly. I started with difficult stuff and had no doubt in my mind that I'd be able to play it soon, and it became true. It has nothing to do with talent or innate skill.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 07, 2011, 05:11:04 AM
Getting closer...

That last trick worked the first night, but nothing the next two nights. It works excellent for some, not at all for others.

Last night, I just focused on and read about lucid dreaming for an hour before bed. I thought about it intensely as I fell asleep, trying to hold my concentration and excitement that I just knew I was going to do it every second I remained awake.

Sure enough, I realized I was in a dream after I blacked out. Except the dream sucked and I had no control, and was so close to waking up that I decided just to wake up.

But... that's not the point. The point is to get step one down to where I can become lucid, say, at least 5 out 7 nights of the week and then focus on step 2 (controlling LDs). I'm going to try the technique I used last night and see if that actually works consistently.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 08, 2011, 05:10:15 AM
Getting even closer...  8)

I thought about getting a LD strongly before bed, but I was thinking about other things, so I wasn't surprised when, at first, I didn't become lucid. I woke up at 8 (slept ~7 1/2 hours), thought about it, but went back to sleep without even really trying to become lucid.

So then, I found myself standing at the side of the road in an area next to half-dead trees with dead leaves on the ground and power lines. I realized I was dreaming. As soon as I did, I was able to make everything so clear that it felt real, or extremely close to real. But at the moment, I wasn't really interested in making things realistic, so I tried to test my skills by summoning an anime character. Well, that completely failed, the dream became distorted, and I woke up.

What I should try is doing the same method, but setting my watch alarm to wake myself up about 5-6 hours into sleep. That's pretty much the optimal time for dreaming- because of REM cycles, dreams are longest and most vivid during that time.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 15, 2011, 09:44:20 AM
Nothing significant this week to write about for two reasons- 1) haven't been trying enough; 2) not many dreams anywhere near vivid, and during the few dreams I've had, I thought they were just thoughts.

To get more vivid dreams, cheese, bananas, and V8 is recommended. Maybe tonight I'll try that B6 again... hopefully I won't get a nightmare from it again.  ::)

Also, I have a theory of why I've had some success with my technique when I actually try hard enough (my technique is to think about realizing I'm dreaming intensely before I fall asleep)- it's just like remembering something. You can write notes all you want, but how do you remember to read those notes? The only way to really remember something is to stress it in your mind as EXTREMELY important, and it will just come to you "in waves" without any effort. Likewise, when I'm dreaming, to remember to realize it is a dream.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 16, 2011, 05:11:28 AM
That vitamin B6 is some crazy stuff!  :o

Tried 150mg last night, and had long, crazy dreams. The first half was almost nightmarish, but the second half was just wild and silly.
I don't remember many details- but one excerpt: I was on a "theme park ride" which involved holding onto a whale which dived underwater and then came back up and tossed me into the sky. Then, I had to land on a giant pink ball at the edge of an island.

The only thing is: why didn't I become aware that I was dreaming?! WTF? ???  (maybe i'm at a point where I can only succeed by not trying...)  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 21, 2011, 04:58:35 AM
After 2 weeks of virtually no lucid dreams, I finally had one last night (it was wonderful).  8)

What I did was go on the DreamViews forum and research more of the various lucid induction techniques, and read about what various people did for success, etc. I had no distractions at all, and complete focus on the topic.

My conclusion is that the only way to lucid dream is for my subconscious mind to be in the mood for lucid dreaming. How I will be able to do this consistently, every night, will be a challenge to figure out.  ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on September 21, 2011, 01:09:45 PM
That vitamin B6 is some crazy stuff!  :o

Tried 150mg last night, and had long, crazy dreams. The first half was almost nightmarish, but the second half was just wild and silly.
I don't remember many details- but one excerpt: I was on a "theme park ride" which involved holding onto a whale which dived underwater and then came back up and tossed me into the sky. Then, I had to land on a giant pink ball at the edge of an island.

The only thing is: why didn't I become aware that I was dreaming?! WTF? ???  (maybe i'm at a point where I can only succeed by not trying...)  ::)

Greg, I think it's a very good thing there are likely no opium dens in your neighborhood.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 21, 2011, 07:58:47 PM
Greg, I think it's a very good thing there are likely no opium dens in your neighborhood.

Hmmm... why? Is that supposed to give you crazy dreams?
The only reason I try B6 now and then is for dream clarity (and length). It works well, strangely.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 24, 2011, 04:05:01 PM
I recalled 3 dreams last night!  :o (none were lucid, though)

The first one: I met a girl I liked a long time ago. However, she was much lighter-skinned and looked different, like another person. This is a freakish idea, but I'm almost 100% sure she was the result of a mixture of two different people. She was nice and friendly, saying "hey, I remember you!" and smiling.

The second one: I was living alone in a big house which my parents bought me. Totally a dream and could never happen. When I woke up, I did not feel too good thinking about this.

The third one: I met old friends from the "gifted" classes that I took from grades 5-8 (after that point, my grades in school only dropped and I never got back in that class). They were all in a group talking, and I had the feeling they were doing well and were going to end up successful and with a lot of money. That is how I need to be. Money is good.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 29, 2011, 02:29:08 AM
After reading my previous posts and considering last night, it seems like (having no distractions + complete focus on something novel about lucid dreaming) = highest success rate. Last night, I had no major distractions, but actually joined the DreamViews forum, and ended up having the longest lucid dream I'm ever had, and it felt 100% as real as real life.


Quote
9/28/2011
I was in a big building by the sea with [a friend] and some other people when I noticed a water spout coming straight at us. I yelled for everyone to watch out for it and tried to find a safe place. Luckily, it only shook the building a bit, but didn't destroy it.
I don't remember much of what happened after this, but I do remember thinking it's a shame I didn't realize I was dreaming- but while thinking this, I was still dreaming.
So, in the next scene, I was at work. I was walking from one side of the store to the other while talking to [a friend], and I told him that he was just my imagination. He laughed and said something funny which I don't remember, but he didn't deny it.
I walked out the building and around it, and eventually the dream faded. When it went off, I tried DEILD... it almost worked. I saw realistic flashes of an old neighborhood, but it just completely stopped after about 30 seconds and I woke up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Muzition on October 01, 2011, 05:50:25 AM
Had a lot of dreams last night about visiting exotic places.  I went to New York City and Africa.

(Hmm, dunno if New York counts as exotic.)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 01, 2011, 01:10:45 PM
Had a lot of dreams last night about visiting exotic places.  I went to New York City and Africa.

(Hmm, dunno if New York counts as exotic.)
Where I live, New York would almost seem exotic, in a way... derp derp!  ::) :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 14, 2011, 06:39:45 PM
Had 3 dreams last night after weeks of barely any dreams.

In the first, I met one of my childhood friends and caught up with how he is doing. In real life, he works at Kobe's (I guess you can be Korean instead of Japanese to work there  ::) )- in my dream, he said he works about 16 hours a day. Probably, it's only about 8 or 9, but anyways, if I just felt so bad for him. He does hate his job- what happened to the kid with all of the fun video games?

In the second, I had a false awakening. Meaning: I dreamed that I woke up- except I was still in bed, and I saw flashes of lights on my wall of pictures of abstract shapes and evil clowns. Every time that flashed, I heard some type of scream. I was going absolutely crazy, but I was alright with it. Not much different than a portrayal of me in waking life.

In the third, it was lucid, but I forgot to stabilize it and it slipped away.  :-\
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 17, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Another lucid dream, but I couldn't keep it stable!  :-\

But that's okay, because I don't expect a strong dream to last long after 7-8 hours of sleep, anyways. What I'm going to try to do is wake myself up after about 4-5 hours of sleep and think about lucid dreaming- trying to stay awake for 5-10 minutes. Mixing that with exploring any topic lucid dreaming-related before bed and pretending I am lucid dreaming as I drift off to sleep.

There's a method to get lucid dreams often, but it differs for everyone. Some things have worked well, some haven't. It's kinda like shooting free throws (something else I've been working on and have improved the more I stick to a certain form of shooting).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 18, 2011, 06:49:48 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!  :-\

My method worked (in a way), but I forgot to do a reality check in the dream! I didn't have a lucid dream at 4 AM, but I woke up at 7 and went back to sleep. In my dream, I was in the bathroom, thinking to myself, "Man, I wish I were lucid dreaming..."

And then I woke up. That was one of the strangest feelings ever. To be absolutely certain you are awake, and then wake up realizing you were sleeping is very disorienting.

Tonight I will set my watch to 5 AM instead of 4 AM. Not sure if I can try for 6 AM, which may indeed be the peak time for dreaming, because my dad is awake around that time and making noise. Same thing with everyone else at around 7 AM.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Muzition on November 28, 2011, 03:58:28 PM
A few nights ago I dreamed I had a really nice bass clarinet.  Then I woke up and remembered that it was true. 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 28, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
A few nights ago I dreamed I had a really nice bass clarinet.  Then I woke up and remembered that it was true.
;D


......... lucid dreaming is very hard  ::)....

i'll go sometimes for a week or two at a time not even remembering my dreams, which is the first step.
I think that October 17th post was the last lucid I had.  ::)


I can pretty easily go into sleep paralysis and consciously keep my mind awake while sleeping, but...
1- can't be too tired, or else I lose consciousness
2- have to be tired enough, or else I can't fall asleep

And just going into sleep paralysis doesn't assure that you will go into a dream state- you have to hit a REM cycle, supposedly. And when your sleep cycle is completely messed up due to scheduling, then it's just a mess for a while.

But... I'll just focus on attacking both Dream-Induced Lucid Dreams and Wake-Induced Lucid Dreams. It's one or the other, really...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 29, 2011, 06:41:13 AM
A few nights ago I dreamed I had a really nice bass clarinet.  Then I woke up and remembered that it was true. 

That's beautiful.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 29, 2011, 06:42:40 AM
The other day I had a dream which, on waking, I found notable for some reason or other.  I forget, now, anything about it.  I'm okay with all that.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 06, 2011, 06:05:51 AM
The last few days I've felt like I've been getting closer to getting a strong handle on inducing and stabilizing a lucid dream, and it resulted in having a nice one this morning.  8)

Mainly, I was jumping around across rooftops in some neighborhood (again), but also managed to steal a couple of ladies and pull large objects (such as power lines) toward me just by sticking out my hand. My only complaint with the dream is that it didn't have that super-realism I love (it's realism was in-between clear thoughts and reality). Something I realized and put to practice to help avoid it ending too quickly: don't do anything you feel like you can't do (don't force anything). It worked.

And I'm thinking my plan of sleeping like this: 12pm-7am, wake for a couple of minutes, go back to bed with alarm clock turned off, gives me more chances to LD (I had mine at ~8:20). I don't even remember dreaming last night, but in the morning... it worked.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: chasmaniac on December 06, 2011, 06:30:13 AM
Trains crashing! Trains crashing!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 29, 2011, 05:23:43 PM
Last night, saw that same side effect of B6- nightmares!  ;D
All of a sudden, I saw a King Cobra and thought, "I could feel absolutely terrified of this..." and for seemingly no reason, stared at and the fear increased (not terrified of snakes in real life, though I wouldn't want to run into one).

Such a telltale B6 side-effect- in your dreams, everything starts off normal, but your focus ends up going to something really bad happening, and often you die in the dream. However, it's strangely exhilarating, and I don't mind it at all.

Before last night, I had about 3 or 4 days straight where I would dream sometime around 3 or 4 am, and the dream would be extremely complex and have tons of stuff happen, but after just a minute of waking up, I couldn't recall any of it. Going back to sleep at 7 to attempt a WILD, my thinking was too murky to have any success.

About a week ago, there was a morning where I tried WILDing at 7, and that morning was a huge success. I had 4 or 5 lucid dreams, but they only lasted no more than 30 seconds each (every time I attempted to force something onto a dream which didn't feel natural, I woke up and fell asleep again and had another LD). The only scene I still remember now is in a school hallway, similar to the one in my old elementary school- completely realistic, too.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 02, 2012, 08:48:15 PM
Finally broke out of that ~7-days straight of having detailed dreams but not being able to remember them (the last entry being only different because of B6)- pretty sure it's because I went to bed an hour earlier.

I ended up dreaming that I checked on Meshuggah's website and they finally announced their new album- it had a gray cover with some name I can't remember, because it's one of those cliche metal words that are made up- something like "Pylosoxia" or whatever... However, it was so convincing that I didn't even think about doing a reality check and didn't end up becoming lucid.

I think that week was a symptom of "being too tired" to LD- not only does it affect WILDs, but also DILDs and dream recall, possibly. The more tired you are, the less you dream, because you are spending more of your time in NREM sleep, which is more of a Delta State. When you hit REM sleep and dream, it's more of a Theta State, which is lighter sleep. Probably a major reason why B6 causes vivid dreams might be because it gives you energy, leading you to sleep lighter.

(http://web-us.com/images/theanine.fig.1.jpg)

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 03, 2012, 08:48:32 PM
I ended up dreaming that I checked on Meshuggah's website and they finally announced their new album- it had a gray cover with some name I can't remember, because it's one of those cliche metal words that are made up- something like "Pylosoxia" or whatever...
They just finished their new album today, and I'm not sure if this is the cover or not, but it's pretty close to the image I dreamed of:
(http://www.meshuggah.net/files/home_mesh_teaser_600.jpg)
(but they haven't released the name yet)

Last night I had two dreams- one at night and one in the morning.

1. At night: I rarely have nightmares without B6, and the only ones in recent memory are 2 that involved fighting off demons, and this one is similar. In the last one a year or two ago, the demon went inside me at the end of the dream. In the dream last night, I was a fiercely big and strong demon with a body of fire, and I had to kill demons that spawned from me that looked exactly like me, but there was some sort of cyclic pattern to it that I don't remember. The really traumatizing part of it was that when you try to kill them, they turn into my dog, and I saw my dog on the floor, crying, with his neck broken, slowly dying, while I stood there with a sword, intending to cut off his head because I had to. Luckily I woke up then, out of sheer trauma and grief at that sight. Hmm... ummm... symbolism, maybe?  ::) If so, it's pretty easy to understand the meaning of this, since my mind has really taken a turn toward very dark, absurd paths the last few years due to some uncontrollable reasons. 

2. In the morning: finally, another lucid dream. Probably being up for 30 minutes in the morning because of the smoke detector helped. I was on top of buildings, just jumping around pipes and platforms and stuff for about a minute. I didn't dare try to control the dream, because any of that would of course make it stop.  ::) It was okay, but it would be nice to more of an input into what I want to do.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 10, 2012, 06:07:25 AM
I've had a memorable dream every single night since my post on Jan.2, meaning 9 straight nights (just by adjusting my sleep schedule to 11-8 (or 7)). I would say it's pretty safe to say that's the technique to use from now on.

I've also had a few lucid dreams, but like always, they only came from intently focusing on and reading about lucid dreams before bed (for at least 20 minutes). So, I now have a pretty reliable induction technique, but honestly, it would be nicer if I didn't have to spend the time doing that each night, so I might end up looking for alternatives (may the ADA "all day awareness" technique?)

Also have found a waaaaaay better way of waking up in the morning- put my cell phone's alarm set to 8, and to vibrate in the morning as the alarm. I couldn't even describe how much better that is than waking up because of some annoying radio across the room.

Next step: buy earplugs to sleep with, so the noise everyone makes between ~6:50-8 doesn't wake me up. A good percentage of my dreams happen then. I plan to simply use DILD for every lucid dream (forget WILD)- during DILD, you have no idea what time it is, so you have no pressure to rush before it's time to wake up, leading to greater dream control.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 12, 2012, 06:12:12 AM
11 in a row.
Had a nightmare that a hacker hacked into all communication systems in the world, and displayed their logo "2012" or something like that. But the bad thing was that if you got injured, people couldn't call an ambulance, and you would just sit there and die. They also tried to do terrorist activities to eliminate the earth's population gradually, if I remember correctly.

I spent at least 20 minutes reading the Dreamviews forum before going to bed and no lucid.  :-\ If I don't think about it, I won't have one, but if I do, I have a greater chance at having one, but not a 100% chance.

The 3 steps towards mastery:

1) Dream recall
2) Inducing Lucid dreams
3) Dream control

1 hopefully will continue (11 in a row couldn't be a coincidence, right?), 2 and 3 are too sporadic. Gotta figure out how to be consistent with those...  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 12, 2012, 06:50:51 AM
Dreamt that two grey-hued dogs, each on a leash held by a person, jumped out of a window.  When I looked down, the dogs had landed all right, but they looked larger in scale than other objects down on the ground.  I didn't see the people who had been holding the leashes, although seeing that the dogs were all right, I felt the people must be all right, as well.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 12, 2012, 06:57:35 AM
I wonder if there is a relation between "larger in scale" and "alright after they jumped out of the window"- maybe a justification of some sort... (unless that window was many stories up)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 12, 2012, 07:06:47 AM
Perhaps ten storeys up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 14, 2012, 06:56:21 AM
13 in a row.
A lucid 2 nights ago, and last night I dreamed I was in Portland  ???  :D. It did fit a type of dream I've had from time to time: being in a place that I know little about, just because it is exciting because it's different. I've even had a dream twice about finding another continent which hadn't been discovered yet, which was fun.  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 15, 2012, 06:23:02 AM
2 dreams at night and a lucid in the morning.
The first dream was something I'd never dreamed of before: improvising on piano. Kinda hard to explain the sound of it in words, so I won't bother. The second dream, by now, I can only remember a scene of, though I remember it was of moderate length and complexity.

Woken up by my parents, I put in the ear plugs and went back to sleep. I didn't even plan on it, but I ended up becoming lucid (but I don't remember exactly at which point I did). The first scene I could feel my mind disconnecting from my body and it was just a matter of shifting smoothly into my dream body and then stabilizing. I think I messed it up, though, so it went gray and then for about 20 seconds could see just a grey image with a small, black hole in the middle and wavy grey lines (and a ringing sound). The next dream scene started forming- it was the previous house I lived at. After walking around a bit, I wanted someone to be in the house- like in the closet or something. But my dream reacted against it and just destabilized. This is really getting annoying- whenever I try to introduce a character into the dream world that isn't there "naturally," this always happens. I want CONTROL over my dreams.  :-\

I also have a theory on lucid induction... BUT I would have to do much more testing before I even talk about it. Once I get consistent, I'll say.  8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 16, 2012, 06:53:58 AM
1 regular dream and 2 lucids. The first dream by now I don't even care to remember and the second lucid was somewhat clear, but not extremely.

The first lucid: I woke up at 5:40 to use the bathroom, went back to bed, and after the dream was over, it was 6:40. However, the dream didn't last an hour. I'd guess it lasted 5-10 minutes, but still, it's the longest one I've had yet, simply because I didn't try to force anything to happen.

I was in some room at the top of a building and walked around (it was nighttime)- looked like the insides of a bedroom of a castle. I opened a window and looked at the ground, which was many, many stories down. Since I knew it was a dream, I edged myself off of the window and floated down to the ground. A bunch of really wild scenery changes, including one where I was floating through a cave with lava below. Eventually, I just got bored of it and the dream faded.

2nd lucid... there was a crowd of random people. Some girls. Giggity.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on January 16, 2012, 07:04:50 AM

I was in some room at the top of a building and walked around (it was nighttime)- looked like the insides of a bedroom of a castle. I opened a window and looked at the ground, which was many, many stories down. Since I knew it was a dream, I edged myself off of the window and floated down to the ground. A bunch of really wild scenery changes, including one where I was floating through a cave with lava below. Eventually, I just got bored of it and the dream faded.

Greg, that wasn't a dream. You were playing Super Nintendo in your sleep.

(http://wfiles.brothersoft.com/d/d_s/designer_mario_lava-480x360.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 16, 2012, 07:06:30 AM
That's exactly what it felt like, but 3D.  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 16, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
New dream goal: meet up with the Super League of Composers (I just made that up). It would feature a group of my favorite composers, and I would ask them to bring me new music they have written after they died (this would only work for the dead ones, which are most of them, anyways).
It would be interesting to see the results of what plays.  ;D They have that machine where it vaguely records images from dreams now- they need to be able to record sound next.  :-*
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 28, 2012, 07:41:36 AM
Took quite a long break... was sick, so that messed everything up for a while. Now I'm back...

Using my formula, first time happened to be: (http://www.famous-logos.com/brands/television/television-logo-Family-Guy-Quagmire-0015-2611-brand.gif), but I'll definitely have to keep at it, since my dream recall (even after being lucid) was not so good. I think I remember using some telekinesis, but everything is like a vague memory.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 29, 2012, 02:30:18 PM
Had another lucid last night, and it was clear as can be, but I don't recall much of it.

However, I feel like I just might have the formula down. I didn't have recall because I didn't fall asleep early enough (easily fixable). And the last two nights I have used the same technique- similar to the MILD technique- my version is to think of the mantra "lucid, lucid, lucid," every time my mind starts to think of stuff that keeps me awake, and then deliberately focusing on nothing, which helps get you to sleep quicker. There's a long, complex explanation to this, but I won't explain.

I know it's too early to count it as certain, but I feel it's a strong possibility...
1) dream recall
2) lucid induction

3) dream control

and I feel like I'm getting closer each day to 3...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 02, 2012, 06:08:41 AM
It's always something keeping me from getting to sleep early- for example, my friend who I've barely talked to in nearly 2 years calling me at night.  ::)

But at least I remembered a dream- I was in some building, and Daniel (madaboutmahler) was there, in person! I forget what he said, but he walked out and I had to talk to some lady at the counter. Then, some guy sitting at a table nearby with a few other people started screaming. I think he had his hand on a burner and completely burned his hand, though I didn't look at it. Probably I dreamed that part because I was at Wal-Mart that night and there was a surface on a wheeled cart that I wasn't sure if it was hot or not, and I came very close to touching, but didn't.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Est.1965 on February 02, 2012, 06:22:56 AM
I was in some building, and Daniel (madaboutmahler) was there, in person! I forget what he said, but he walked out and I had to talk to some lady at the counter. Then, some guy sitting at a table nearby with a few other people started screaming. I think he had his hand on a burner and completely burned his hand, though I didn't look at it. Probably I dreamed that part because I was at Wal-Mart that night and there was a surface on a wheeled cart that I wasn't sure if it was hot or not, and I came very close to touching, but didn't.

 ???   :D

I visted an old girlfriends house to borrow "a brush to brush a dolls hair" - I was invited in by her daughter, and Jen (my 1990's love of my life) didn't give me a doll hair brush, she instead gave me a goldfish in a tupperware container, which had beetroot juice in it and with which I seemed to be entirely satisfied with.  We all commented happily on the dying goldfish which was trying to get out of the container and the beetroot vinegar, I showed it to her husband who sat in a sky blue suit, bald, utterly impartial to goings on.  I was seen out by Jens daughter and that was that...
 ::) :-\
And no, I do not take hallucenogenic drugs.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 02, 2012, 06:29:14 AM
Strange  :D

Your avatar...  what does Wagner do to you?!  :-X
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Est.1965 on February 02, 2012, 06:39:22 AM
Strange  :D
Your avatar...  what does Wagner do to you?!  :-X

Götternoth! Götternoth!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mc ukrneal on February 02, 2012, 06:47:25 AM
I often remember my dreams when I sleep in a colder room and I am not as warm as I would like under the covers. There is a fine line, where if I am too cold - I won't sleep. If I am too warm - I guess I am too comfy and cannot remember. But if it is just right, I'll have lots of dreams and remember them all.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Est.1965 on February 02, 2012, 07:37:37 AM
I often remember my dreams when I sleep in a colder room and I am not as warm as I would like under the covers. There is a fine line, where if I am too cold - I won't sleep. If I am too warm - I guess I am too comfy and cannot remember. But if it is just right, I'll have lots of dreams and remember them all.

Yes.  It is like finding the right conditions for a 'Dream Zone'.  Dream Zone.  Mr. David Wilibanks might use that for a title for one of his books...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 03, 2012, 06:31:41 AM
Weirdest experience this morning...

After waking up, I hardly remembered any dreams last night and thought that I would try to fall asleep, even though I doubted I could. I closed my eyes and tried to just let it happen.

At first, I saw in my vision some hypnagogic imagery similar to the grey static on a TV channel that isn't coming in (and a similar, loud sound). Then, an outline of an alien appeared in the field of grey static (typical alien form). I decided to push it further to see what would happen if I kept my awareness while (hopefully) being able to fall asleep and have a dream.

Then is when the strangest thing happened. Over the course of about 3 seconds, about 5 or 6 photorealistic images flashed through my mind. Although I can only remember one specifically, I think they were from when I was very young. The one that I do remember was a picture of my stepdad, when he had long hair, sitting on a couch, watching TV in a house probably so long ago I don't even remember it. He had long hair about 20+ years ago, when I was 4. I woke up, and since the images were so realistic, I had to test whether I was truly awake or if it was just a false awakening (I was awake  :( ).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 05, 2012, 06:22:13 AM
Epic lucid dream adventure!  8)

I kept reality checking, and even though I was still in bed, I just knew I was dreaming because I could float a little. So I got out of bed and looked through my window and saw at the house next to mine a guy I work with looking out the window. I go across the yard and get into the window in that house, exploring for a minute. Then I see a black square in the floor, drop down into it and everything becomes black. I use this to let the scenery change.

Next scene (about three times as long as the first scene): in the back of my neighborhood when I was a kid. I went about, jumping across rooftops (yet again), going inside houses, etc. One really interesting idea I got when I went into one house was Dartboard Telekinesis!  :o There was a red dart on the floor and I just moved it with my mind and threw it at the dartboard in front of me. However, it's not easy at all. Almost impossible to get them to stick.  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 05, 2012, 07:28:43 AM
Oh yeah, one part in the dream I forgot to mention- I saw this guy welding and decided to talk to him. I asked him what I should do to cure my irritability. He said to use "Ziacom," and proceeded to give me very specific directions and dosage (I remember the number "296mg" for something).

Just looked it up, and apparently he meant "Zicam," which is cold medication. Those dream characters are friendly once you trust them, but it's not always the best idea to take their advice in the real world...  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 15, 2012, 06:49:07 AM
I took an intentional break for a while, and just last night decided to get back in the game.

The plan was to wake up at night, go back to bed, then have a lucid dream, but it ended up happening before I even woke up. It was a wild dream world, because there were tubes inside a building to go into different areas of the world, which reminded me of Mario.

After waking up and being awake for maybe 40 minutes, I was tired and decided to let myself fall asleep. But I had the idea of imagining looking at the ground and trying to reality check by seeing if I could hover. After about 15 seconds of picturing that, it all of a sudden got super realistic, and I was in my dream, moving around, feeling exactly as if it were real. I actually said, "I'm back."  :D

It makes me wonder what role confidence has in creating lucid dreams. I know there are people who can just feel confident alone and have them, but it doesn't work for everyone, and I'm not sure why it only work sometimes for me. Seems like I'm just never in the mood to do anything consistently. 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 24, 2012, 10:38:20 AM
Well, the site that I use to help get lucid dreams has been hacked by some Russian and the entire domain is for sale now. I'm almost surprised it's not the US government, considering how the government wants control over everything, and in lucid dreaming, you are in a completely realistic world where you are God (and anyone can learn how to do this). They backed up server, though, so hopefully they'll get their domain back or find another domain and e-mail me where it happens to be...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: madaboutmahler on February 24, 2012, 11:27:30 AM
It's always something keeping me from getting to sleep early- for example, my friend who I've barely talked to in nearly 2 years calling me at night.  ::)

But at least I remembered a dream- I was in some building, and Daniel (madaboutmahler) was there, in person! I forget what he said

Probably something about Mahler or my violin sonata. ;)

I have some rather memorable and wonderful dreams so will make sure to post some of them here. ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on February 24, 2012, 11:39:37 AM
Yeah, probably was something like that.

I've had a lot of interesting dreams the last week, though by now, the only one I can remember is one where I was sleeping by (or in?) one of the cars in a car dealership inside a shopping mall. The car I was by was a Dodge Viper. That was the same night where, at night, I was thinking about what sports car I'd like in 15 or 20 years with (discounting Lamborghinis and Ferraris because I'd never spend that much on a car), because of the new Acura NSX that is coming out (which is a cheap price for any type of sports car). I was trying to think of other ones, but the dream reminded me of the Viper...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 09, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
It's like I completely lost the ability to lucid dream...

though only really memorable dreams I've had lately: 1) I met Dwight Howard some sort of movie theater, and 2) I met Patrick Ewing, but in my dream I acted like it was no big deal, because currently he is assistant coach of the Magic.

Maybe my loss of ability is due to pure boredom of doing anything to induce lucid dreams. It's all old news now. My mind has the problem of only being able to concentrate on things if they are novel, and almost the only reason I have even been able to have lucid dreams in the first place is if I discover some novel way of inducing them.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 11, 2012, 06:06:21 AM
Apparently, my subconscious is still extremely attached to my group of friends from elementary-middle school. And when I wake up and realize which year it is, it's like complete devastation  :-\. The nostalgia is overwhelming. To be able to go back in time and eat lunch with my friends would be one of the greatest possibilities.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 11, 2012, 06:16:03 PM
For record-keeping, I will mention that yesterday morning, I did have a lucid dream... actually, it happened twice.

I think if anyone not into this stuff had this type of experience and didn't understand what was going on, they'd think their soul was leaving their body (astral projection), but that's just nonsense. I basically just wiggled my "phantom body" out of my body and walked around in my room. Strangely, each time, I get the sensation that I'm floating above my body, but my head is attached strongly, and when I unattach it, I fall out of my bed. Then, when I wake up, I'm back in my bed (in reality). Fun stuff.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 13, 2012, 08:06:39 PM
Had a lucid dream last night without even trying...  ??? The only problem is that I barely remember any of it. It was one of those lucid dreams where, somehow, even though you realize you're dreaming, you're not clear-headed at all and can't think straight.

Also dreamed that the Magic had traded Jameer Nelson for Steve Nash, which is something I would have liked to see, but also considered the negative aspect: Steve Nash may not have many years to go when he retires. And then what?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 28, 2012, 07:55:11 AM
Accomplished a dream goal: grocery store domination.   8)

I happened to be in a grocery store when I realized I was dreaming, so, with the complete freedom, I just started picking up food and eating it. It's nice that every single sense, even taste, is just as real as real life. All you can eat for free is quite nice. I also came across a drink refill machine in one of the aisles (you know, like the ones in fast food restaurants) and simply pressed each flavor and drank a little bit of each.

This is the 4th time that I used no technique- just "belief" to induce a lucid dream. This "technique" can actually be the most effective, and also explains lucid dreamers who are "naturals." But my problem has always been consistency. I think that the reason might be that I just don't have confidence that I could pull this off each night, so I can't. And when it comes to this skill, confidence is actually one of the most important factors (along with understanding REM cycles). I think the way to be a consistent lucid dreamer is to simply fight off the doubt that I can be consistent.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on March 28, 2012, 09:15:08 AM
But at least I remembered a dream- I was in some building, and Daniel (madaboutmahler) was there, in person! I forget what he said, but he walked out and...

Danny went to get his hammer?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: madaboutmahler on March 28, 2012, 09:25:32 AM
Danny went to get his hammer?

 ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 28, 2012, 07:09:19 PM
Danny went to get his hammer?
Probably, I don't remember.  :D
My best guess was that he was leaving for the day from his school.

Anyways, I have a few ideas for dream goals. One is to actually time how long I've spent in a dream by playing back music (I don't know why, but I have somehow decided it has to be Mahler 6 earlier today, even before I read this comment  :D). My longest lucid dream felt like ~15-20 minutes, although you can dilate time to make it feel longer (it's possible, because certain drugs can actually have this effect).

Another is to pretend Mahler came back and wrote an 11th symphony. I would sit in a concert hall and listen to it. I'm pretty sure it's possible for it to sound great.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: madaboutmahler on March 29, 2012, 09:35:16 AM
Another is to pretend Mahler came back and wrote an 11th symphony. I would sit in a concert hall and listen to it. I'm pretty sure it's possible for it to sound great.


Once you have dreamt it, please write it all down from memory so we can all hear it!  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 29, 2012, 06:11:15 PM
Of course, it'd be impossible to memorize it :P, but if I can remember an idea or two and incorporate it into my orchestral work project, Through the Rift of Dreams, that would actually make the title literal.   ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: madaboutmahler on March 30, 2012, 06:51:42 AM
Of course, it'd be impossible to memorize it :P, but if I can remember an idea or two and incorporate it into my orchestral work project, Through the Rift of Dreams, that would actually make the title literal.   ;D

haha :)

I have remembered two dreams from the last week...
One was set in a Gothic Church, and I was in an orchestra playing Danse Macabre, the tam tam part (even though there is no tam tam part in Danse Macabre!). When I started playing the tam tam, the walls of the church and the pillars started to crack... and that's when the dream ended...   ???

The other dream was far more pleasant, it was me at school in our wonderful music department conducting my new chamber orchestra. As I will be conducting my own chamber orchestra at the school in around 3 weeks time (after the easter holidays which started today) this could have been in fact a foresight instead of a dream... if so, I'm in for a treat! :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on March 30, 2012, 07:57:29 AM
haha :)

I have remembered two dreams from the last week...
One was set in a Gothic Church, and I was in an orchestra playing Danse Macabre, the tam tam part (even though there is no tam tam part in Danse Macabre!). When I started playing the tam tam, the walls of the church and the pillars started to crack... and that's when the dream ended...   ???
The lesson here is: never tamper with the scores!  >:D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 30, 2012, 08:03:35 AM
The walls just got... ummm... hamm... I mean, tam-tammed! 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: madaboutmahler on March 30, 2012, 08:38:34 AM
The lesson here is: never tamper with the scores!  >:D

The walls just got... ummm... hamm... I mean, tam-tammed! 

haha ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 07, 2012, 03:57:19 PM
55 hours a week of work + school is killing my ability to lucid dream. The side effect of being too busy and needing escape is that, of course, when you need it, you can't get it- happens to most people, it seems. I bet when it's summer, I'll have a lucid dream once or twice a week, rather than once or twice a month now.  ::)

I wonder how I should customize the girls I can make up my dreams... usually it's easy to find them, but not all of them are hot- more like average to hot. Also, I might want to try talking to them before going up to them and randomly touching them.  ;D

Also, I want Mahler to be my dream guide. I haven't asked around for people to be my dream guide, though, probably because in my previous lucid dreams I've been distracted with girls, doing silly stuff, messing with dream characters, etc. One idea that just struck me as hilarious would be to walk in a crowd and make all of the people levitate off the ground. One person did that and everyone looked confused. Or even better, find a group of girls and make their clothes vanish at once. Stand there and just laugh at how freaked out they get.  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 08, 2012, 03:53:28 PM
Probably part of the reason for less lucids is not waking up in the middle of the night and going back to sleep much lately.

Did that last night, and... well, I achieved lucidity, but that's about it. I was driving and remember to do a reality check because I genuinely wasn't sure whether I was awake or asleep (although that's a dead giveaway right there). I tried to make the car hover off of the road, and after a few seconds, it did, slightly. Then, for some reason, I thought that the dream should be unrealistic (why?  ??? ),  and it went blurry and the dream was over.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 09, 2012, 04:29:55 AM
Great dream last night. Yeah, right...  ::)

I was at a slightly expanded version of my work area, walking around. I see two people I used to work with in the middle of the tall gate, with the back of their vests somehow clipped on to the fencing. They joke about falling, even though, if they did, they could possibly die. I keep on walking, and at the end of the gate, there is a young, fat guy doing the same thing, but from the top of the gate (certain death height). People below him tell him not to fall off.

I walk away to get away from the scene. However, that one hot Polish girl I work with starts walking towards the direction of the scene. I try to stop her from proceeding (she reminds me of an innocent kid sometimes, so I didn't want her to see anything). That's when I hear a loud thud and screams. The kid jumped off. This only makes Milena try even harder to get to the scene, and I keep on trying to stop her. Then I wake up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Ataraxia on April 09, 2012, 04:58:56 AM
I did not know this:

"There are several functions to dreaming. One is to give balance to the events that happen during the day. Studies have shown that if we interrupt dreaming for humans, they go crazy and psychotic and start seeing hallucinations and all kinds of strange things - even if they get the rest of their sleep. In other words, it's really a vital process. It has actually been scientifically proven in sleep lab research that dreaming increases learning or retention of new knowledge. Obviously, the more we sleep and dream, the more we integrate things that we have learned during the day. That's another valuable function," Webb says.

So as our bodies repair themselves in dreams, other health benefits arise. Our dreams also function to improve the quality of our life.

"Dreaming also provides mental, spiritual, and emotional coping mechanisms that help us develop creative solutions and new ways of thinking about our challenges, questions, and problems in life," Webb says.


http://www.essortment.com/causes-dreams-42591.html
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 09, 2012, 05:04:49 AM
At heart, I knew that. Or, I may have dreamt it all.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Ataraxia on April 09, 2012, 05:09:22 AM
At heart, I knew that. Or, I may have dreamt it all.

Dreams only interest me while I'm dreaming.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 09, 2012, 05:57:05 AM
I endorse that message.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 11, 2012, 04:59:58 AM
Craziness.  :o I went to sleep early because of a painful headache that was just about to make me throw up, so I ended up getting nearly 10 hours of sleep, the most in several months, probably.

Two long, detailed dreams:

1. Mikkel (the guy who posts here) wrote a suite about his trip to Philippines. I probably listened to whole thing (4 movements), but only the first movement was very memorable. It had Romantic-ish type strings, and throughout the piece there were hints of his individual idiomatic phrases, somewhat influenced by Norgard. (I can't actually recall the music, just how it sounded). There was a solo piano version and a version for piano and orchestra- I much preferred the piano and orchestra version, and it was on youtube. There was a lot of imagery of the cities and landscapes, but I don't remember if I was actually "there" in my dream.

2. Started off in a city square, where some people were human-sized and others were giants, like in the manga, Gantz. Then, it shifted focus and me and the characters from Mortal Kombat were in some type of 1-story house/building hybrid, and we decided we had to fight to the death. I took down a few of the characters, but while hiding in a bathroom, I saw some girl there doing makeup or something, and didn't want to come out. I can't remember if I just let the rest of them duel it out or not (Raiden and Johnny Cage were left).  ::) 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 13, 2012, 06:51:58 AM
Tried a new technique for getting a lucid dream for the first time, and it worked. I tried because it has a very high success rate, but you know how these things go for me... doesn't mean anything unless I can finally get it to work consistently.  ::) (so I'll keep trying)

The technique involves a WBTB, which means sleeping ~5 hours, waking up, and going back to sleep. The difference with this technique is that you try to repeat 3 things 4-5 times while falling back asleep: 1) 15-20 seconds of paying attention to imagery seen while eyes closed; 2) 15-20 seconds of paying attention to sounds (though often, like for me, there might not be much); 3) pay attention to sensations that are related to onset of sleep paralysis.

At first, I had a false awakening. My friend called me, since we were going to play basketball in the morning, and I was so tired that at the end of the phone call I said, "I'm so tired, I wouldn't be surprised if I were dreaming." I was dreaming.

Then, I remember becoming lucid, but everything was so dark that nothing really happened; but, lucidity was achieved, at least. Let's just see how this technique goes...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 19, 2012, 04:20:11 AM
Tried a new technique for getting a lucid dream for the first time, and it worked. I tried because it has a very high success rate, but you know how these things go for me... doesn't mean anything unless I can finally get it to work consistently.  ::) (so I'll keep trying)
Haven't been able to try it again until last night; it worked again.

My dreams were extremely fragmented, though. I think the way I did a reality check was, while in a car, seeing if it could lift up and fly. It did. Then, by the end of the dream, I remember a very, very vivid ~20 seconds where I was at Costco, floating around at the level of the top shelves, marveling at how accurately my dream portrayed hundreds of bags of food of varying color so accurately.

Then I had at least 2 dreams after that. The first one involved me somehow meeting the mom of my friend from many years ago, and in the second one, I was talking to some girl in the library who was shelving books. I even thought, "too bad I'm not dreaming..." Out of all of the dreams were I could be lucid, I'd rather it have been that one, but no...  ::)

But... some thing are making more sense now. I'll keep experimenting with this SILD technique.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Polednice on April 19, 2012, 04:32:35 AM
One theory I heard about the importance of dreams given an evolutionary perspective is that they prepare you for possible difficult future circumstances - if you dream about something frightening that you haven't experienced before, your subconscious may well be more prepared for it if/when it does happen. Of course, once you throw human culture into the mix, dreams become whackier and more complicated! I've experienced the downside of excessive dreaming though - a few months ago, I would have very, very extensive dreams every night and I could remember every minute detail instantly upon waking up. They were so long and vivid that I may as well have been awake, and I certainly felt like I could do with a lot more sleep despite having been in bed for 9 or more hours.

Last night I dreamt I broke my hip. Painful. :p
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 19, 2012, 05:02:37 AM
Oof!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 19, 2012, 05:47:21 AM
I've experienced the downside of excessive dreaming though - a few months ago, I would have very, very extensive dreams every night and I could remember every minute detail instantly upon waking up. They were so long and vivid that I may as well have been awake, and I certainly felt like I could do with a lot more sleep despite having been in bed for 9 or more hours.
Epic dreams can be fun- like an adventure that you could only possibly go on while asleep.

I like the length if the dream is good- it is possible to make time "slow down" in dreams; epic dreams seem to do that naturally, since the longest single REM cycle period lasts only an hour or less, while epic dreams feel like they can go on for much longer. (Although, in your case, if you're recalling several, that may mean 3 or so hours of dream recall...)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Polednice on April 19, 2012, 06:03:07 AM
Epic dreams can be fun- like an adventure that you could only possibly go on while asleep.

I like the length if the dream is good- it is possible to make time "slow down" in dreams; epic dreams seem to do that naturally, since the longest single REM cycle period lasts only an hour or less, while epic dreams feel like they can go on for much longer. (Although, in your case, if you're recalling several, that may mean 3 or so hours of dream recall...)

I tended to have 2 or 3 separate dreams per night, each of them usually involving gruesome deaths. :p
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 19, 2012, 06:05:16 AM
I tended to have 2 or 3 separate dreams per night, each of them usually involving gruesome deaths. :p
Oh, well... never mind, then.  :-\
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 03, 2012, 05:59:03 PM
Last night:

1. Someone wanted me to put their drugs in the trunk of my car. I thought "why not?" and did so. Then I realized what I just did. I took them out of my car and into someone else's car. I look behind me and see a police car. They get in trouble and I don't.

2. I am in a store (looks almost like Toys-R-Us), and there is a table with a group of people making music. On the left side of the table is one of the newer GMG posters, Fin Henderson, and on the other side is my friend, Skip. (There were a couple of other people I know at the table, too, but it's hard to remember who). They were improvising concrete music by playing around with various devices. Fin had this magnetic strip on the table that changed sound when a magnet, which was hovering over it, changed position. Skip made two loud hammer strokes against some plastic ball which he was trying to fit into a hole in the table.

Everyone was concentrated intently on making all of the odd noises, while people around were baffled by it. The name of the event was "Nerdpocalypse."  :-X
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 04, 2012, 01:15:16 PM
Last night:

1. A super epic dream that felt like it went on for hours, or maybe even a full day, except that I don't remember any of it, unfortunately. This, despite a sleep time of roughly 6 1/2 hours.

2. I see a bright red, flashing light. I thought I was getting abducted by aliens. I see crazy, random images and wake up. I thought I died for about 10 seconds, but I wonder if it had something to do with the fact that lately my resting pulse has been very fast and it's been hard to breathe correctly. I might have been holding my breath for a very long time and that's what led to that (who knows).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Henk on June 10, 2012, 03:44:46 AM
Greg, I was on Cold Mountain, not in my dreams but in real.

The greatest feeling one can have, of loneliness of proudness. I suddenly got that experience. It was such a great feeling. A sort of proud out of loneliness that became very very huge!

I think it was what Han Shan writes about in his book Cold Mountain.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hXiZ1AurL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)

I also experienced spheres. I was in a sphere. I experienced a sphere around the entire cosmos.

Also I had experiences of some great feeling, a feeling what should accompany somebody in his life.

Also I experienced greatness, some feeling I was a giant.

Not in my dreams, in reality! What I want to say is, that you find your life too boring, but life can be really great. Much more greater than in dreams. Dreams are interesting to understand your psyche, not to subsitute for real experiences.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 10, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Greg, I was on Cold Mountain, not in my dreams but in real.
We have a Cold Mountain in Florida, too. Um... drive up a hill and jump out of your car naked in winter. Wait a minute and get a DUI. Yeah!  8)


What I want to say is, that you find your life too boring, but life can be really great.
If you have money.


Dreams are interesting to understand your psyche, not to subsitute for real experiences.
Well, until I learn how to fly in real life, I'll have to stick to doing it in my dreams. I guess it's my clumsy white person genetics. Only black people know how to fly.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 10, 2012, 09:15:43 AM
I also experienced spheres. I was in a sphere. I experienced a sphere around the entire cosmos.

Also I had experiences of some great feeling, a feeling what should accompany somebody in his life.

Also I experienced greatness, some feeling I was a giant.
You're feeling the cosmos.

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljb7lpCLwa1qbgtb8o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Henk on June 10, 2012, 10:16:32 AM
It's obvious that I have insulted you in your greatest life-fullfilment. That wasn't the purpose.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lisztianwagner on June 10, 2012, 11:31:02 AM
A thread about dreams, very nice; this reminds me I have just to read Freud's Die Traumdeutung..... :)

I've remember two dreams, both concerning music:

1. About the first one, I clearly remember a fragment: I was in a music shop and I had to choose a box-set of Mahler's symphonies as a present for a friend of mine; after I had looked at some recordings, I laid my eyes on a completely blank box. When I took it in my hands to see it better, I heard a voice calling me: it was Leonard Bernstein who said: "Don't buy that one, this one is much more powerful, believe me". He gave me a box-set with beautiful pictures (but the interpreters weren't specified), and after thanking him very much, I bought that version and I left the shop.

2. About the second dream, it started with me being in strange building, a merging between the Musikverein and a museum of Art History; I was looking at some treasures of the Hapsburg Age, when I saw some people cheerfully talking to each other who were going to another hall. I decided to follow them and after a while we enter the Golden Hall of the Musikverein. I sat on a chair and immediately the strings and the woodwinds of Wiener Philharmoniker appeared and started playing unknown music. There were some friends of mine next to me and we began talking a little while the orchestra continued playing; after some time the orchestra stood up and they said that the concert would continued in another room. I arrived at this concert-hall followed by some players and some of the audience, and we stopped in front of the entrance. While I was waiting for the rest of the people, one of the violinists went near me and said: "So, do you like the concert?"; I answered that I did very much and then I asked if I could shake hands with him; he smiled, gave me the hand and we enter the hall together.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: madaboutmahler on June 10, 2012, 01:57:37 PM
Wonderful tales, Ilaria! Could it have been me that you were buying that Mahler cycle for? I hope it's the Michael Tilson Thomas set!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lisztianwagner on June 10, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
Wonderful tales, Ilaria! Could it have been me that you were buying that Mahler cycle for? I hope it's the Michael Tilson Thomas set!  ;D  ;D

Hahaha, I'm afraid not, Daniel ;) I only had to buy a Mahler Cycle as a present for someone; but I admit I had that dream after our discussion about the Bernstein Mahler cycle. :) I didn't dream the MTT set either, the interpreters weren't pointed out in the boxes.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 10, 2012, 04:27:46 PM
It's obvious that I have insulted you in your greatest life-fullfilment. That wasn't the purpose.
:P ;D  ;)


1. About the first one, I clearly remember a fragment: I was in a music shop and I had to choose a box-set of Mahler's symphonies as a present for a friend of mine; after I had looked at some recordings, I laid my eyes on a completely blank box. When I took it in my hands to see it better, I heard a voice calling me: it was Leonard Bernstein who said: "Don't buy that one, this one is much more powerful, believe me". He gave me a box-set with beautiful pictures (but the interpreters weren't specified), and after thanking him very much, I bought that version and I left the shop.
Hmmm... I think Ubloobideega was the conductor of the blank box. His intention was to shatter the universe with perfect Mahler interpretations that transcend time, space, and existence (the blankness was supposed to represent eternal nothingness), but the resulting interpretations turned out to be a bunch of duds. Same could be said for his very existence...  ::)

As for musical dreams, here's one from 3 years ago that I still remember:



A few nights ago, a very entertaining dream. It's under the category of an "epic" dream because of clarity and length, yet the scenario is completely different from a normal epic dream. I was lucky because I only had this dream because I forgot to set my alarm clock and was supposed to wake up an hour earlier. It was worth being late for this one.  8)

I was at a concert where a string quartet was playing through the complete cycle of Shostakovich string quartets. They get up to 7 (which was really 11, but I subconsciously get those numbers mixed up because of the 7/11 gas station), when the one of the violinists, who leads from the beginning of the string quartet- you know, that opening- sees, or more like, I see, the tip of her bow at the bottom of my metal chair leg, and it's stuck. Somehow, she's able to bow, although slightly agitated.

At the end of one of the movements (in my dream I considered it the finale, but I'd have to go back and check, because I don't think it is), there's this passage where the cello and one of the other instruments plays a two-note repeating motif that gets louder, faster, more intense, and the violinist whose bow is stuck under my chair is supposed to finish it off. She can't because now the whole string is broken, so we laugh about it.

Then, some old guy sitting in the middle of the audience gets up and protests the music (i was sitting on the far right). He says, "This music is not sexually aesthetic!" Then some guy walks in from behind all of us and we all turn our heads to look. I can't remember now what he says, but I think he explains the music or something.
Now that I think about it, this had to be the result of a combination of listening to the Shosty SQs and reading the posts of Sydney Grew around that time.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Lisztianwagner on June 11, 2012, 01:35:13 AM
Hmmm... I think Ubloobideega was the conductor of the blank box. His intention was to shatter the universe with perfect Mahler interpretations that transcend time, space, and existence (the blankness was supposed to represent eternal nothingness), but the resulting interpretations turned out to be a bunch of duds. Same could be said for his very existence...  ::)

Vielen Dank, Herr Doktor ;)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 12, 2012, 06:19:32 AM
10 hours of sleep... so many dreams that I can't remember them all (only fragments of about 5 separate dreams).

I got lucid twice. One time, I woke up as soon as I did. The other time, I flew around for about 10 seconds.  ::) I really wonder why this stuff happens...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 12, 2012, 11:59:57 AM
I really wonder why this stuff happens...
Probably because, for a week now, my mind has been all over the place (and extremely noticeable today). This often carries over to sleep.

Snyprrr, get out of my mind!  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 12, 2012, 12:14:52 PM
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-haaaahhh!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 16, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
An entertaining thread on another forum about fever dreams:

http://www.lucidipedia.com/forum.php?section=viewtopic&t=3675


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i remember all my life, whenever i am sick my dreams are messed up. they usually consist of needing do do something important, and never being able to accomplish the goal. then they repeat. and they usually lack any sort of visuals, just concepts and frusterating ideas. during these dreams i seem to be 1/4 awake/ 1/4 discomfort and 1/2 asleep. i feel like my blankets are wrapped up aound my,constricting me.

for example: "i am currently sick and this is the dream i had last night " : i needed to obtain 4 bullet proof vests in order to get somewhere or do something. i knew where the vests were and how to get them. but paradoxically the location had absolutely no value... i mean the location was a concept/an idea, not a dimensional existence... im just not articulate enough to describe...

then some body else got 2 of the vests and i failed, again the person really wasnt there, i just new it... then the dream started over with even less detail then i described befor. the entire time i felt suffocated by my sheets that were wrapped up in my legs...

Anyone read this and recall vividly a fever dream experience that felt the EXACT SAME WAY?


or this?

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I had possibly the worst nightmare I've ever had while sick and your "not a dimensional existence" fits it perfectly. I'd had a fever and was in and out of sleep all day and it was becoming hard to distinguish which was which.

In the dream everything was black, or rather there was no visual content. Actually, there was no sensory information telling me that I was anywhere at all. I couldn't see, hear, touch, smell anything and had no sense of balance telling me which way was up - as if I was just a lone consciousness in the void.

Imagine you close your eyes and the world just goes away. Then you only have what is going on in your head and a sense of inside and outside.

Suddenly, from somewhere 'outside' numbers and equations start flooding in. It's just a random mess of meaningless information being uploaded to my mind from 'somewhere' - a little bit like being trapped in a small dark room with water flooding in and nowhere for it to go. I started to feel my own thoughts being crowded out of my mind, replaced by the numeric nonsense. I felt pure terror. Was I going crazy? Was this some kind of spiritual DDOS?

I woke up at 3am, heart pounding, in a cold sweat trying to get my head around what had happened, but even to think about it was to relive it. I couldn't even close my eyes again without seeing the equations.

Mine was gray Tetris blocks falling in a 3D cube which contained bolts of electricity all around it, and I had to solve it all, but there was no solution. It was just me fitting in the blocks, trying to accomplish something which didn't even make sense- a very stressful experience. This was many years ago.
I wonder what the scientific explanation for the overactivity of thinking during a fever dream is...?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 07, 2012, 04:14:44 AM
My second "car dream" last night. My first was (idk, a year ago?) about owning an NSX. This time, it was a black convertible Corvette. Somehow, I bought it for either $3,500 or $35,000, with only a couple hundred miles on it. At the end of the dream, I'm in a parking lot, looking for my car and can't find it. I feared that by leaving the top down, someone was more easily able to steal it.

Waking up, I realize how I missed two really HUGE dream signs that could lead me to question reality and become lucid, but I never did.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 10, 2012, 10:54:35 AM
This morning, dreamed I was driving down the highway when I saw a sign for "(name of a girl I used to know)'s Nail Salon." I pull up to see if it's really her's. It's not actually in a building, but in one of those outdoor business tent-things. I talk to these two Asians (probably typically Vietnamese lol) and they act like I don't know who I'm talking about, until I say that it is this blonde girl that is this tall who I'm looking for. Then she walks up and I get to talk to her; it's her place, after all. She says that it would be nice to hang out (this would only happen in a dream lol) and so, in the last scene, we were climbing fake rock walls. Random.

Last morning, I had a false awakening. I was actually hearing crunching sounds above my head, and I see about 5 roaches crawling around on a hook, right above me. I get out of bed and kill a couple that fall down on my bed with my wallet, but one of them is too big. Then I woke up. (The crunching sounds continued for about 10 minutes).

I've also had a couple of short lucid dreams... just trying to figure out how to be more consistent, as always.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 15, 2012, 11:47:48 AM
For some reason, I ended up sleeping 12 hours last night, which is easily a record.

I had so many dreams that I couldn't even count them, but one curious one that I remember involved being in class with some Arab guy that said he isn't really interested in anything except for (computer) networking. "You connect one side to the other, and it's just... fascinating." Okay...  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 19, 2012, 03:14:24 AM
Dreamed that there was something really evil (forgot what it was, a squirrel or something?) that I had to obey in order to not be killed.

Then, as I was in bed, I saw a small, circle-shaped white light on the wall. I would not look at it for a second, and then it would change position. I did this several times until I decided to get up and confront whatever I suspected was right outside my window. I did so and woke up. Then I realized that in my dream, I was actually in my bed from my old house 6 years ago.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 20, 2012, 03:44:08 AM
Awesome lucid dreams last night, I just have to say...

hehe GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRREEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT stuff  ;) 8)




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Anyways, I think I get it now.
For becoming lucid in the first place, you have to feel like lucid dreaming. Wanting to exercise is different from genuinely feeling like exercising, for example. This would explain my inconsistency.

For dream control, in a sense, you have to realize that the subconscious really has most of the control. Every action should feel natural and not deliberate. Continuing through with intended actions that don't feel natural will lead to waking up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 24, 2012, 07:00:23 PM
Last night's dream isn't particularly interesting to read about, but...

it felt like two full days. It was so strongly my reality that during the morning, I had a few moments where I was surprised at my reality and how it works as if I had forgotten about my own life.

The first day, I ended up making friends with a girl by purposefully bumping into her, which forced us to talk (weird logic, huh?). I then ended up making friends with all of her girl friends, and we ate lunch together. The second day, I did the same to another girl because I couldn't remember what the first girl looked like. Same story with meeting her friends. However, I remember virtually nothing about this- just that it happened.

It was a profoundly calming dream. Even though these were all girls, and I targeted the first ones because they looked good, there was nothing dirty at all, and it was just a development of a friendship (I've had, what, 2 or 3 close-ish friends that were girls in my entire life?). I have these dreams sometimes before or during days of long, intense work. I don't use any types of chemicals to ease the pain, so at least my body is smart enough to something about it.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 28, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
Variations on a theme...

I wonder why the mind makes up stories and then believes them so strongly sometimes...
on my lunch break, I couldn't let myself fall asleep, but I really almost did within 5 minutes of sitting in the car. I started thinking about a group of girls that used to come to the place I work a few years ago, and I was trying to remember them. However, after waking up from the 3 minute "nap," I realized they never existed and that my mind made it all up. (Note odd similarity to previous post's dream).

Last night, my dream was about being on a basketball court (either elementary school or middle school- they are close and on the same road) near where I used to live. I stopped to think that in the past, I had visited one of my old friends from years ago, since I was friends with them on Facebook, but I was struggling to remember who it was. When I woke up, I realized I never met any of my old friends ever and my mind was making stuff up.

Three dreams in a row about meeting people I really like that don't exist?...

...also became lucid last night but messed it up.  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on October 28, 2012, 08:48:55 PM
I once had a dream that I was asleep dreaming...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on October 29, 2012, 05:33:50 AM
At this rate, Greg, you're going to start believing there really is a classical music forum called GMG. 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 29, 2012, 06:28:23 AM
I dreamt your typing that, Tony.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Szykneij on October 29, 2012, 06:31:44 AM
I dreamt your typing that, Tony.


 :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 29, 2012, 07:39:27 PM
I once had a dream that I was asleep dreaming...
A few times this year I dreamed that I was sleeping, but not that I was dreaming. That's very Inception-y.


At this rate, Greg, you're going to start believing there really is a classical music forum called GMG. 
Oh, yeah, like I'll ever believe that.  ::)
What is called, the Gray Music Group, because everyone who listens to classical music has gray (or white) hair?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Mirror Image on October 29, 2012, 07:53:31 PM
I once had a dream of a dream of another dream.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 04, 2012, 06:23:49 AM
Just had a dream of getting inside my old house from 12+ years ago. We had to ask the current residents for permission to get inside. They were kind of acting like the circus tigers from Madagascar 3, which I was watching last night. The guy was saying some rude stuff, though I don't remember what it was. They slowly let us (someone was with me, forgot who) in more and more, until we finally reached the living room (not that far, really). They changed the house up a bit.

At one point, I even said, "I dream about visiting my old house a lot. It's awesome to finally be able to visit it." I've had dreams of playing basketball in the driveway like when I was 10-12 and then the current resident saying something, but I never went inside with the current resident home. New one lol.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 07, 2012, 05:13:58 AM
Lucid dream after waking up and going back to bed ~6:30 and sleeping until 7:30.
It lasted probably 10 minutes, because I had to constantly make myself relax and not do anything that would wake myself up.

This would be every morning if it weren't so noisy in the house...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on November 18, 2012, 07:47:54 AM
Two dreams: one normal and one lucid.

Normal: in my friend, Yuse's room (knew him from elementary to high school). Must have forgotten that I used to go to his house many times years ago. Looking for clues as to why he ended up becoming a scientist (he actually is one, and only my age).

Lucid: at my elementary school. I decide to fly away. For some reason, it is quite a struggle this time, flapping my arms to get up into the sky, but eventually I'm in the sky and fly straight ahead for a bit. |-------don't remember what happens here-----| I'm in a building and walk around for a bit. I go into the classroom of one of my current instructors, but the class looks nothing like it does in real life. I start wanting a girl to appear, so I walk around and there is a hidden room nearby; I open it up and there is a girl, but she is fading in and out, so whatever. I walk away and exit the classroom.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 20, 2012, 07:34:44 AM
Very long dream last night. Felt like it went on for hours in a straightforward narrative.

I had to get through an extremely large building that had many rooms, almost school library-like. The problem was, there was a huge flood coming from the other side. Crossing through the building was a very long and complex process; felt like an hour, but probably was more like 20 or 30 minutes.

I finally reached the other side and got on the highway. Unfortunately, my memory is vague, but it was a pretty crazy ride. There was this one stop... might have visited it twice. Then I was more north on the "world map." At this point, I was looking at a screen, playing a video game instead of experiencing it, and meeting up with two Sonic the Hedgehogs.  ???

It lasted so long that waking up had that initial shock- "really?"
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 21, 2012, 06:49:04 AM
Last night I decided to quit trying to lucid dream. It's just unnecessary stuff to concentrate on. I thought, "pssh, I'll probably have one tonight. Quitting or similar actions very often bring about lucid dreams; it is ironic." The thought lasted 5 seconds, so I forgot about it.

I ended up having a lucid dream. By not trying. It ended when I tried to do something.  ??? I'm over the mind games of lucid dreaming.  ::)

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 25, 2012, 10:59:51 AM
Last night I dreamed about going to a concert with music from a contemporary composer, who happened to be there, too. I knew his music was somewhat radical, so I wondered how the audience in Orlando would react to it.

Part of it consisted of extramusical activities: there was a circular set of hurdles that a group of children had to run and jump over while singing. Some of them fell over the hurdles, and the performance was a disaster. However, they were still encouraged and everyone acted like nothing was wrong. I left early because the music was terrible, even though I made it clear that I was a fan of contemporary classical music.


Minor note: became lucid on the night of Dec.21 as well, but not again since. Over the last year+, it seems to reconfirm that the only way I can acquire lucid dreams is by a completely different change in perspective in lucid dreaming in general. You can't do that every day.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on January 16, 2013, 09:34:01 PM
I said I was quitting lucid dreaming... well, ummm...

anyways, besides the woooonderful lucid dream a few nights ago, I had a slightly interesting experience this morning. Woke up, and while falling back asleep, my dream body rolled out of my bed, as I've done many times now. I get up and walk around and for a minute and it takes a minute for me to open my eyes fully. I go to the bathroom and look in the mirror. I know I'm dreaming, but everything looks and feels so real that I start to doubt it. I try to put my hand through the mirror. I can't, and really start wondering if I'm actually awake. I try to wake up. I do.

 :-\
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on March 13, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
Anyone ever take a nap and think your eyes are open because you see stuff as if they were open... and then you open your eyes? That happened twice during my nap today.

What a wonderful dream: me sitting there, taking a nap with my eyes open.  :-\
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 03, 2013, 04:43:53 AM
Heh... this one is pretty bizarre.

Tried to stay awake at 8 this morning but fell back asleep for ~20 min. During that time, I had a dream that I was in this sort of building that had a lifting door just like a storage shed. I had a wife that was going into labor and was trying to find a spot for her. I walk up to the door and notice a bunch of people that were all dressed up and ready to go inside- apparently this was a mosque! So, I'm kind of there and don't know what to do, and the dream ends.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 10, 2013, 04:05:38 AM
Just a warning... this one is a bit messed up.

Last time, dreamed of visiting a friend who I hadn't seen in 13 or 14 years. Me and some other people were in his room, and had his TV on, but was controlling it as if it were a computer. What popped up by accident on the screen? Flinstone porn.  ??? I didn't say anything and waited patiently for him to delete the images while he was saying, "How embarassing..."

I ask to see his video game collection and there are some games, but in some spots where there should be games, there was a bottle of lotion, which he said was a game.  ??? The whole time he acted like he wasn't interested in anything and was being as dull as humanly possible, as if he had deteriorated as much as possible. He lost interest in everything, apparently, and felt like everything was lame.

Then, for a while, I must have been dreaming about shapes in some type of alternate reality with different laws. When I gradually woke up, the shapes and layout of everything didn't make sense at first because I had gotten used to being in this abstract world. The only image that I recall from it, however, is: everything was grey, but there was a transparent cube that was 2 and 3 dimensional at the same time that I was inside and outside at the same time. Yeah.  :-X
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 17, 2013, 07:48:52 AM
Kind of felt weird waking up this morning, like I teleported to my bed rather than woke up.

I dreamed that my school exploded, basically. The school's location was directly to the left of the elementary school I went to in 5th grade. I was in the library when I looked at one of the monitor displays from a camera and from the hallway two of these gangster looking thugs both entering the bathroom. I knew they were up to no good. Suddenly, the fire alarm came on and we had to evacuate immediately. Outside, I see the explosions in the school, resulting from the bombs they set. Then, I noticed a ring of fire about 50 or 100 feet away that started to encircle us, trapping us between an exploding school and flames. Somehow, we managed to find an opening and escaped. Later, I talked to one of my friends who I haven't seen in years, and he showed me this new development that is basically a clump of sand shaped similar to a quarter, but slightly larger than the size of a bottle cap, that can turn into a bomb if you crush it with your hands; this is what they used. Waking up was a relief. But that's only because I work in the evening; nightmares are more fun and exciting.  :P

If I had to guess, this dream was a mixture between the propane plant explosion 10 miles from my house and me telling someone about the time someone light a fire in the garbage at my high school.

Before that, I recall a short dream of playing some type of saxophone shaped like a french horn. I played a note, which surprisingly sounded good, but lowered pitch and became really brassy as I exhaled.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 29, 2013, 09:50:12 AM
My phone alarm woke me up RIGHT when I looked into the face of this giant bird and said, "Hello, bird!" It didn't look too pleased. I think my mind was trying to imagine a chocobo, but messed up.

I fell back asleep (I'm pretty sure this happened after) and dreamed pretty much what I wanted to dream. I was thinking last night that I wanted to experience some of the events that happened in Final Fantasy 8, but realistically... I ended up dreaming about going to the moon, which was an event in the game. Also, there was a strange part where I had to stand on my head and then another ground would appear above me, so I had to flip upside down in order to get to another place.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on September 10, 2013, 09:26:36 AM
At least five dreams last night:

1. I shaved my beard completely. IRL, I need to shave, but not all of it.  ::)
2. My shoes were falling apart visibly. IRL, there is a squeak to them that is new. These shoes need to last a while, since they were $80.
3. I threw up for some reason. This was the most vague one.
4. I had a lucid dream about doing one of the things I would want to do most in a lucid dream. It got to where it wasn't clear, though, so meh...
5. I was in the mall with 2 of my friends that live near Orlando and we were in a room where Bill Cosby was, getting autographs, except no one was there but us and him. He looked uglier in my dream. Supposedly, it had been busier earlier, but it was later and only we were there. My friends unfortunately walked off and muttered, "So weird" or "So stupid" but I wanted to take a picture with him. To get into position, I had to awkwardly squat down and put my arm around his shoulder, since the camera was desk level. And that was it.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on April 14, 2014, 04:11:11 AM
Dreamed that I had found the source for what provoked things such as the recession and the NSA spying: aliens!  ???
I think I imagined them as the types that are parasites to human hosts and use them to create widespread misery for societies (similar to the Yeerks in the Animorphs book series).

I confronted some of them and threw stuff at people who I knew were infected...


5. I was in the mall with 2 of my friends that live near Orlando and we were in a room where Bill Cosby was, getting autographs, except no one was there but us and him. He looked uglier in my dream. Supposedly, it had been busier earlier, but it was later and only we were there. My friends unfortunately walked off and muttered, "So weird" or "So stupid" but I wanted to take a picture with him. To get into position, I had to awkwardly squat down and put my arm around his shoulder, since the camera was desk level. And that was it.
Ha! I remember this one... the rest not so much.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 06, 2014, 06:52:21 PM
Last night I had a dream that I was going down a crowded stairwell (may have been my old high school) and briefly saw Shostakovich in the crowd a few steps above me. Maybe it's because I was listening to some of his quartets yesterday...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Ken B on May 06, 2014, 06:55:41 PM
Last night I had a dream that I was going down a crowded stairwell (may have been my old high school) and briefly saw Shostakovich in the crowd a few steps above me. Maybe it's because I was listening to some of his quartets yesterday...
It's his ghost, seeking a new GMG host after MI gave him the boot. I ended up with Barber.
 8)

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 06, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
It's his ghost, seeking a new GMG host after MI gave him the boot. I ended up with Barber.
 8)
Well now I'm mad that I didn't get Bartok!!! Come on, Bela, I thought we were bros!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Moonfish on May 06, 2014, 09:33:10 PM
It's his ghost, seeking a new GMG host after MI gave him the boot. I ended up with Barber.
 8)

 :) :D ;D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2014, 01:12:09 PM
Last night I had a dream that I was going down a crowded stairwell (may have been my old high school) and briefly saw Shostakovich in the crowd a few steps above me. Maybe it's because I was listening to some of his quartets yesterday...
One of my dreams from 2009:




A few nights ago, a very entertaining dream. It's under the category of an "epic" dream because of clarity and length, yet the scenario is completely different from a normal epic dream. I was lucky because I only had this dream because I forgot to set my alarm clock and was supposed to wake up an hour earlier. It was worth being late for this one.  8)

I was at a concert where a string quartet was playing through the complete cycle of Shostakovich string quartets. They get up to 7 (which was really 11, but I subconsciously get those numbers mixed up because of the 7/11 gas station), when the one of the violinists, who leads from the beginning of the string quartet- you know, that opening- sees, or more like, I see, the tip of her bow at the bottom of my metal chair leg, and it's stuck. Somehow, she's able to bow, although slightly agitated.

At the end of one of the movements (in my dream I considered it the finale, but I'd have to go back and check, because I don't think it is), there's this passage where the cello and one of the other instruments plays a two-note repeating motif that gets louder, faster, more intense, and the violinist whose bow is stuck under my chair is supposed to finish it off. She can't because now the whole string is broken, so we laugh about it.

Then, some old guy sitting in the middle of the audience gets up and protests the music (i was sitting on the far right). He says, "This music is not sexually aesthetic!" Then some guy walks in from behind all of us and we all turn our heads to look. I can't remember now what he says, but I think he explains the music or something.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 07, 2014, 01:16:37 PM
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...Then, some old guy sitting in the middle of the audience gets up and protests the music (i was sitting on the far right). He says, "This music is not sexually aesthetic!"...
Yeah, Shostakovich really dropped the ball there...

That's pretty funny. I love how dreams are often just a collage a bunch of unrelated things.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Moonfish on May 07, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
Yeah, Shostakovich really dropped the ball there...

That's pretty funny. I love how dreams are often just a collage a bunch of unrelated things.

Maybe Shostakovich Debussy used his dreams as a foundation for his compositions....   :laugh:
I don't want to know anything about Stockhausen's dreams! Nope! No way!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
Yeah, Shostakovich really dropped the ball there...

That's pretty funny. I love how dreams are often just a collage a bunch of unrelated things.
Yeah, though I believe that at the time I must have had in mind this guy who used to post here who was against this type of music (not specifically Shostakovich, but that type of stuff in general) who always used the word "aesthetics" when bashing that typing of music. The Pink Harp/Eric Anderson was the guy, and I think that's how the phrase appeared in mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 07, 2014, 01:21:50 PM
Maybe Shostakovich Debussy used his dreams as a foundation for his compositions....   :laugh:
I don't want to know anything about Stockhausen's dreams! Nope! No way!
Nah... that was Scriabin.

Are most of you familiar with Ligeti's childhood 'spider-web' dream? He says that it influenced his compositions (referring to it in interviews).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2014, 01:21:56 PM
Maybe Shostakovich Debussy used his dreams as a foundation for his compositions....   :laugh:
I don't want to know anything about Stockhausen's dreams! Nope! No way!
You don't want to know about the alien probes?  ???
James assures us that they were deep and profound ..
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2014, 01:22:27 PM
Nah... that was Scriabin.

Are most of you familiar with Ligeti's childhood 'spider-web' dream? He says that it influenced his compositions (referring to it in interviews).
Ooh, never heard of it. What about it?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 07, 2014, 01:22:37 PM
Yeah, though I believe that at the time I must have had in mind this guy who used to post here who was against this type of music (not specifically Shostakovich, but that type of stuff in general) who always used the word "aesthetics" when bashing that typing of music. The Pink Harp/Eric Anderson was the guy, and I think that's how the phrase appeared in mind.  ;D
Man, I missed all of the eccentrics!  :(
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 07, 2014, 01:25:58 PM
Man, I missed all of the eccentrics!  :(
Yes you did. This place used to get crazy at times.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 07, 2014, 01:28:38 PM
Ooh, never heard of it. What about it?
Here is something I found Googling:
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But there are also darker psychological reasons for Ligeti’s affinity with polyphony. Ligeti himself related the strands at work in Apparitions to his severe arachnophobia, and specifically to a childhood dream in which, as he once recalled, ‘the whole room was filled with a dense confused tangle of fine filaments… I was caught up in this immense web with both living things and objects of various kinds – huge moths and a variety of beetles – which tried to get to the flickering flame of the candle in the room.’
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on May 07, 2014, 01:33:10 PM
One of my dreams from 2009:

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Then, some old guy sitting in the middle of the audience gets up and protests the music (i was sitting on the far right). He says, "This music is not sexually aesthetic!" Then some guy walks in from behind all of us and we all turn our heads to look. I can't remember now what he says, but I think he explains the music or something.
:D I've seen enough of ye (pronounced 'the') olde (pron. 'old') posts to have thought that this must have been Pink Harp..
You, sitting on the far right, would have protestedfor political reasons, of course  0:) 0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Ken B on May 07, 2014, 03:08:15 PM
Man, I missed all of the eccentrics!  :(
Wanna bet?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 08, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
Wanna bet?
Hey, aside from my fascination with Bartok, Ravel, and Ligeti and my strange obsession with Debussy's "Jeux", I'm not THAT eccentric!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on May 08, 2014, 04:02:55 AM
Last night had a dream where I was in the middle of a school shooting. I was with a group of students in some room when everyone starts running out the door outside. Then I find some small bathroom to hide in, but the door is a bit different: a rusty old door with no lock and it swung both ways. Two other people went inside after I did and we sat there, waiting for it to pass. However, through the door, there was an opening where you could see through, and I was the only one visible because the other two people I was with where taking up space, forcing me to sit in a visible area of the bathroom. At this point I realize it's a dream, so I play out the scenarios in my imagination. I think of the scenario where the shooter sees me through the opening and then I kick the door, which swings the other way and it knocks him down. Then I take his gun and shoot him.  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: mn dave on May 08, 2014, 04:08:51 AM
I dream about celebrities sometimes, but in all my dreams I am the star.  0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 10, 2014, 10:51:50 AM
Last night I had a dream that I was guest-conducting my high school orchestra in "Rite". I have conducted once in my senior concert so it isn't a huge stretch (although it wasn't "Rite", rather something I composed :( ). The thing that was interesting is that Simon Rattle was there (with the orchestra teacher) and both were giving me friendly advice. I specifically remember that one of them (forgot which) said I was running through the part I intro too fast.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on May 15, 2014, 09:49:25 AM
Another music-related dream: This morning I woke up in the midst of dreaming about Ligeti's "Chamber Concerto". I think I was explaining the piece to someone and I woke up while I was thinking/talking about the "clocks" of the third movement.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on June 04, 2014, 09:12:20 AM
Ok, here's a good one. Last night I had a dream that I was at a live performance of Stockhausen's "Cosmic Pulses". There was another concert in the same building that was for kids (something like "Cinderella", I can't remember) and there were some parents who accidentally brought their kids to the Stockhausen performance.

Oddly, I just remembered as of this afternoon.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Ken B on June 04, 2014, 09:21:24 AM
there were some parents who accidentally brought their kids to the Stockhausen performance.

And people call my avatar horrifying.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on June 04, 2014, 11:26:05 AM
Ok, here's a good one. Last night I had a dream that I was at a live performance of Stockhausen
Oh, a nightmare, then.
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There was another concert in the same building that was for kids (something like "Cinderella", I can't remember)
The phrase 'oh, to be young again' comes to mind..
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and there were some parents who accidentally brought their kids to the Stockhausen performance.
Now there's a clearcut case for child welfare social workers.
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Oddly, I just remembered as of this afternoon.
Hmm, that is odd. Perhaps it's a repressed memory from your own childhood - I'd suggest you let it be, and stop listening to Karlheinz's krazy musik.  0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on June 04, 2014, 11:52:43 AM
Now there's a clearcut case for child welfare social workers.
:laugh:

Actually, I think "Cosmic Pulses" would be very cool to see/hear in octophonic (or whatever the number is) sound. I still think of it as more "sound" than "music", but it's a cool sound.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: TheGSMoeller on June 04, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
I dream of being an astronaut one day.

Did I do this wrong?  ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Ken B on June 04, 2014, 12:03:18 PM
I dream of being an astronaut one day.
So did I! All I did in school was take up space.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on June 04, 2014, 12:12:00 PM
So did I! All I did in school was take up space.
:laugh:

I must have dreamed of being a policeman for a brief period of time when I was 5 or so, but then, every boy has that phase.
After that, I'm not sure I've ever had any idea. . .
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: EigenUser on June 04, 2014, 12:19:43 PM
I dream of being an astronaut one day.

Did I do this wrong?  ???

I remember an episode of The Simpsons that showed a flashback of Marge as a 5-year-old. Clearly dressed up as an astronaut, she had a cut-out empty cardboard oatmeal box on her head and asked her older, monotonous twin sisters "Guess what I want to be when I grow up". They sneered "What? The man on the oatmeal box"?

I would have been too scared to want to be an astronaut. I wanted to be an architect when I was little (I drew pages upon pages of buildings and road-maps). I'm not too far off, considering all possibilities. 8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on June 04, 2014, 12:24:30 PM
I remember an episode of The Simpsons that showed a flashback of Marge as a 5-year-old. Clearly dressed up as an astronaut, she had a cut-out empty cardboard oatmeal box on her head and asked her older, monotonous twin sisters "Guess what I want to be when I grow up". They sneered "What? The man on the oatmeal box"?
And remember how Abe S. encouraged the little Homer who wanted to be the President of the U.S. one day?

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I would have been too scared to want to be an astronaut. I wanted to be an architect when I was little (I drew pages upon pages of buildings and road-maps). I'm not too far off, considering all possibilities. 8)
I think I considered becoming an architect, too. A friend of my parents is an architect.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: amw on June 04, 2014, 12:28:44 PM
When I was little I wanted to be a spider.

It hasn't worked out so far
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on June 04, 2014, 12:29:46 PM
When I was little I wanted to be a spider.
My brother tried to scare my mom and told that he was going to grow horns. Mom wasn't scared.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 04, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
A few nights ago, dreamed I was playing Final Fantasy 11 again. And guess what I've renewed my subscription to...  :(  :P
Well, either that or go months dreaming about it repeatedly until I play it again, like what happened to the first Final Fantasy game I played ~10-11 years ago.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on June 20, 2014, 03:29:10 AM
Totally sick dream last night.

I was visiting my dad in Kentucky and playing basketball outside. It gets dark, and we go to his place. When I'm about to fall asleep for the night, I think I hear distant voices yelling or something.

The next morning, we wake up and take a drive through the neighborhood. I notice something odd, though. There are so many trash bags in everyone's yard. As we drive further, there are countless full trash bags filling yards and huge retention pond-like spaces. Then I notice one or two people walking outside of their homes and just crying. That's when I realized that the trash bags are filled with human body parts, after the largest mass murder in history had been committed.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 20, 2014, 03:46:57 AM
Dreamt last night that I was playing clarinet.  Not that I never have before, but it happens quite seldom.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on July 02, 2014, 04:30:32 AM
Gonna try to learn from this... about 20 minutes ago found myself alone in the apartment of someone at this forum who plays some games.  :P
Realized I was dreaming, so I went over to the screen of the game that was on. The map was loading, so a black screen showed up. I kept waiting and waiting and it never loaded.  :-X
Well, there's a lesson in dream control- don't sit there and wait for stuff. Oh yeah, and don't force stuff to happen, either, because you'll wake up.  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 04, 2014, 11:24:12 AM
The rare bad dream. It must be because I'm getting some free time so I actually don't feel terrible all of the time.

Me and some others were being robbed by very aggressive criminals, and the scene shifted at one point, but the most memorable part was where someone offered the robber some raspberries (they were in jar). The robber was enthusiastically pleased and noted that he was a raspberry fanatic (dressed up in raspberry decorations, raspberry hat and a shirt with a picture of raspberries). So we offered more and more raspberries.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 29, 2014, 06:28:03 AM
Dreamed that my back yard had turned into a miniature lake. I had to swim from the back to my house, but the water was moving extremely violently and getting larger and larger waves the closer I got.

It's funny because it's obvious where this came from: 1) was mowing the grass yesterday; 2) the scene at the end of Mind Game where they try to escape from the inside of a dying whale, which was ridiculously intense.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 29, 2014, 06:29:39 AM
. . . where they try to escape from the inside of a dying whale . . . .

Thank God the video games have no olfactory element . . . .
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on August 29, 2014, 06:35:48 AM
Thank God the video games have no olfactory element . . . .
Yeah, I would say that would be the last sense added if total immersion were ever achieved.  ;D


(btw, Mind Game was the movie I mentioned in the Movie thread (which you commented on))
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 20, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
Last night, the strongest dream I've had in some time (with age one dreams less, I've found in any case).  I say strong, because I felt in the dream that something monumental was to occur.  My wife and I were in our car, she was driving, and as we rounded a bend in the road we came upon railroad tracks and then a long freight train moving swiftly, too swiftly.  Up front, a massive steam locomotive, maybe a 2-10-2 but moving way faster than those monsters were wont to.  I was happy for a moment but then a derailment occurred, a jackknife, and everything behind that one car went topsy-turvy.  Boxcars flew everywhere and splintered like matchboxes.  Massive gondolas carrying elephantine creatures derailed sending some creatures flying, others I saw were already grazing in the nearby meadow, while still others landed on their heads and they were crushed by the weight of their own bodies.  My wife and I rode on in silence.   
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: North Star on October 20, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
with age one dreams less, I've found in any case
True, as the portion of REM (Rapid eye movement) stage of sleep decreases with age.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on October 20, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
True, as the portion of REM (Rapid eye movement) stage of sleep decreases with age.
Really? Not good...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2014, 05:22:12 AM
A couple of days ago, I dreamt I was having a conversation with Steve Martin.  He was not funny, and I did not make any attempt to "be witty," we just talked, about nothing of any particular importance.  In my dream, I recall it taking me a long pause to remember the name "Robin Williams."
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 06:08:57 AM
Really? Not good...

No, it's not.  But as Woody Allen sez :  "There's nothing good about old age."  In olden times, oldsters were respected if not prized for their knowledge and experience. No longer. Of course, my generation played a role in whittling away appreciation for the old so I've no one to blame but myself!   ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Jo498 on October 21, 2014, 06:37:20 AM
So you already put the date of your demise on a virtual tombstone? I cannot read the exact number, but that seems rather morbid (and it is not 2045)...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 08:32:33 AM
So you already put the date of your demise on a virtual tombstone? I cannot read the exact number, but that seems rather morbid (and it is not 2045)...

Not my "date of expiration," I hope!  ;)  ZauberdrachenNr.7, my avatar, was mortally wounded (or was he?) by my GMG friend Ken B.'s avatar (St. George & the Dragon). I'm hoping Z7 will be resurrected but he really gets into the Hallowe'en spirit so morbidity, as you say, is the order of the day.  What if he comes back as a Zombie Zauberdrachen (if so, should he keep the same number?) munching on parts of other GMGers' avatars?  I sure hope not.

Forum members' varying approach to (and interpretation of) avatars is interesting - for some they carry or reflect meaning, maybe even some symbolic magic.  They are relatively meaningless to many. For others, they're a playground.  Some will shift between those factions depending...  I wonder to what extent a member's approach to avatars might reflect the nature of their interpretations of music, art, literature or even - as in this thread - dreams.  Personally, I envy the composer avatars but am uncomfortable with idolatry on the one hand and on the other feel inferior - musically - to my favorite composers' genius.   My moment of musical fame began and ended in the '60s in a local band called "The Happy Soup Group."  There has been no demand for a reunion!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2014, 08:35:17 AM
No demand for happy soup? 8)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 08:46:59 AM
No demand for happy soup? 8)

Hard to fathom, eh?  Or stomach?   :)  But it was souper fun.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Jo498 on October 21, 2014, 08:50:42 AM
Ok, I am glad that it was only an avatar and there will be a reincarnation as Zauberdrachen Nummer Acht.
What does the second line say "ich will es wären Deine"?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 09:18:21 AM
Ok, I am glad that it was only an avatar and there will be a reincarnation as Zauberdrachen Nummer Acht.
What does the second line say "ich will es wären Deine"?

Thank you, Jo498! The tombstone reads in toto:

Hier liegen meine Gebeine,
Ich wollt' es wären Deine.

But not yours, Jo498.  0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2014, 09:25:19 AM
Oh, my darling Clementeine . . . .
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Jo498 on October 21, 2014, 09:49:31 AM
Thank you, Jo498! The tombstone reads in toto:

Hier liegen meine Gebeine,
Ich wollt' es wären Deine.

Great!
I actually read "Träume" instead "Gebeine" (priming by the thread title) and was wondering how to explain that it has to be "wollte" not "will". I am really puzzled about that. Why does the wishing verb have to be put in conjunctive/optative, not only the clause expressing the wish?
It is a crazy language; I am glad I never had to learn it consciously.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 10:08:03 AM
Great!
I actually read "Träume" instead "Gebeine" (priming by the thread title) and was wondering how to explain that it has to be "wollte" not "will". I am really puzzled about that. Why does the wishing verb have to be put in conjunctive/optative, not only the clause expressing the wish?
It is a crazy language; I am glad I never had to learn it consciously.

Subjunctive, I believe you mean - verb forms in that epitaph are high-falutin' 18th century German and much more formal than would be used nowadays. They're from Karl Julius Weber; he wanted them on his gravestone but his family would not allow it.  Bit of a Til Eulenspiegel himself, that one!
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Jo498 on October 21, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
Yes, subjunctive is probably the modern and correct term. (We called it "Konjunktiv I" in school. Wishing sentences would be in conjunctive mode in Latin and optative mode in Greek.)

It may be because one is familiar with such epitaphs, but it is still standard language. To me it does sound completely wrong to say "Ich will, es wären Deine". One could say "Ich wünsche (mir), es wären Deine". (This does not sound wrong, but subjunctive would also be possible and maybe even more idiomatic.)
There is a somewhat silly song (done by Comedian Harmonists among others) that begins: "Ich wollt' ich wär ein Huhn, ich hätt' nicht viel zu tun, ich legte jeden Tag ein Ei und sonntags auch mal zwei." Clearly not formal language, although I guess in everyday speech the subjunctive tends to die out. It seems as if the subjunctive mode from the claus expressing the wish forces alignment of the wishing verb to the same mode in some cases.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 10:38:58 AM
Yes, subjunctive is probably the modern and correct term. (We called it "Konjunktiv I" in school. Wishing sentences would be in conjunctive mode in Latin and optative mode in Greek.)

It may be because one is familiar with such epitaphs, but it is still standard language. To me it does sound completely wrong to say "Ich will, es wären Deine". One could say "Ich wünsche (mir), es wären Deine". (This does not sound wrong, but subjunctive would also be possible and maybe even more idiomatic.)
There is a somewhat silly song (done by Comedian Harmonists among others) that begins: "Ich wollt' ich wär ein Huhn, ich hätt' nicht viel zu tun, ich legte jeden Tag ein Ei und sonntags auch mal zwei." Clearly not formal language, although I guess in everyday speech the subjunctive tends to die out. It seems as if the subjunctive mode from the claus expressing the wish forces alignment of the wishing verb to the same mode in some cases.

I think that is the case, er... subjunctive case. :)  Tell me, Jo, is it ok for me to use B (capital B) as the Eszett, to be understood?  And aren't you trying to eliminate the Eszett to ss, instead?  How's that going?  (sorry GMGers this prob. belongs in a PM but it's prob. of interest to a bunch of you). 
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 21, 2014, 10:50:38 AM
If I were to use the subjunctive mood . . . .
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ZauberdrachenNr.7 on October 21, 2014, 11:26:38 AM
If I were to use the subjunctive mood . . . .

Are you in a good mood?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Jo498 on November 03, 2014, 03:14:56 AM
B for eszett looks odd, but it is recognizable. Officially it is much better to use ss, though. In former times even "sz" was used, but I find this confusing as well. After all, it is just two forms of the s (the one that looks almost like an f and the normal one) joined together. Switzerland got rid of "ß" quite a long time ago, so there you might have to pay a Busse if you drive in a lane reserved for Busse and you will improve your Masse (around the hips) if you reduce your Masse.
But in Germany (and Austria I guess) the letter survived the notorious "Rechtschreibreform" (orthography reform) of the 90s, although it is less frequent now because of some rule changes. It now follows only after short vowels, so Fluß became Fluss and the conjunction daß became dass (and ist still to be distinguished from the article and relative pronoun das). Note that the words above that are homographs in Swiss spelling are still distinguished in German reform spelling, because they are not homophones and one of each pairs has a long vowel.
As someone who left school before the Reform I still think it sucks (because I was pretty good at orthography and now a have to think more instead of doing stuff by habit and because I think it was a big waste of money, resources etc.).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 03, 2015, 06:38:10 AM
It's been over a year since the last post on this thread.  ;D

Couple thoughts on lucid dreaming:

1) For lucid dream induction- The only thing consistent seems to be something like waking up after ~7 hours of sleep to noise, and then being stuck awake while trying to fall back asleep despite the noise for ~5-10 minutes. If the noise stops, then I'm in luck because then I can proceed to lucid dream. If not, like this morning, I'll continuously go into a dream for a few seconds and then wake up again repeatedly.

So my plan is to write an app that will make a noise every 30 seconds for 5-10 minutes and then stop. But it would be more useful when I live by myself, because I can't stop the noise in my house from preventing from lucid dreaming or even getting enough sleep.

 

2) For lucid dream control- It seems the word "confidence" is used to achieve certain things that may seem difficult to do in a lucid dream (for me, that would be summoning people). But I have observed that "assertiveness" is the better approach. Assertively tell you dream that someone is around the corner, but don't be aggressive about it.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on December 03, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
Last night I dreamt that someone I spoke to once or twice from another forum filed a lawsuit against me for chatting to her.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ibanezmonster on December 04, 2015, 10:53:06 AM
This morning, woke up after 7 hours of sleep to noise yet again, tried to go back to sleep but after 20 minutes turned on a looped binaural recording to listen to on my phone. Either that drowned out the noise or it got quiet.

Had several lucid dreams.

-running across the roof of my work like a ninja. I've noticed this is the most common thing I do in lucid dreams. It seems to be the most stabilizing, as well. Possibly because it forces you to focus on "grounding" yourself in the dream?
-went with my dad to some restaurant, where the counters were about 10 feet tall and all they served was "draft beer." Oh well.
-tried to impress someone in my dream by making a basketball shot extremely far from the hoop. They paid no attention and I ended up overshooting and the ball fell in the grass. Then I used my telekenetic powers to lift the ball up from the grass into the hoop.


But I'm not so sure any more about my assertion from my last post that it's all about "assertiveness" rather than "confidence" when it comes to summoning people in my dream. Yesterday morning, I was dreaming that I was in the office that I had been going to regularly and while approaching the next cubicle, I had asserted than an anime character I liked would be there, and it worked! But this morning, on one of my dreams I tried to imagine a character materializing before my eyes. Didn't work, never has. I see a ghost-like image of them appear before I have to stop trying or else it would destabilize and end the dream.

Maybe... getting a specific person to appear in your dream relies on how much you can shed your sense of doubt? I noticed this is precisely the case when it comes to something like flying- if I doubt I can, I can't; but if I realize that I can since I've done it so many times, then I can. But getting a "living, breathing" person to appear in my dream right in front of me seems challenging before I even attempt it. And I had no sense of doubt while getting the character in the office to appear.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on August 21, 2019, 09:53:50 AM
Bumping this thread because there is some stuff to write here, maybe more so later.

Last night dreamed my dog from years ago was actually live and then he said his name.  :D

Night before that was completely confused about where i am currently living and thought about about the previous places i lived and just became jumbled up and couldn't figure it out.

Been analyzing my three most recurrent types of dreams, and came to the conclusion that they all point to one thing:
The feeling of wanting to escape.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: geralmar on August 24, 2019, 05:10:52 PM
I dreamt Otto Klemperer's real name was Barry O'Brian and that he once ran for president of the U.S.

Neither is even remotely correct.  I checked.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 02, 2020, 08:46:34 AM
Dreamed about going to the movies and there was a line where they let you throw tomatoes at TVs in the lobby. When it was finally my turn, people got in the way and I never got to throw them.  >:(


Watched The Evil Dead last night, maybe has something to do with it?...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 18, 2020, 06:23:00 AM
The quarantine got me dreaming of going outside and... skateboarding?  ???

Never learned how to skateboard but probably wouldn't dare to do it in public until spending at least a few hours practicing in a closed, empty garage which I don't have until I eventually move into a house. So will have to wait a few years...

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on April 18, 2020, 08:15:27 AM
I dreamt that I had parked the car, reversing backwards, on a sloping cliff edge with myself and my wife in the car. A symbol of 'Cabin Fever' under present lockdown conditions I fear. My daughter (in London) told me that she had a dream of her teeth falling out (a fairly common anxiety dream I think) whilst my wife and I were going away on holiday.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: ritter on April 18, 2020, 09:27:02 AM
My daughter (in London) told me that she had a dream of her teeth falling out (a fairly common anxiety dream I think) whilst my wife and I were going away on holiday.
Well, if it’s of any comfort, the Spanish Science Minister has just said in a press conference that el ratoncito Pérez (our version of the tooth fairy) has a standing safe-conduct to continue performing his duties under the current lockdown.  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Pohjolas Daughter on April 18, 2020, 11:49:22 AM
Well, if it’s of any comfort, the Spanish Science Minister has just said in a press conference that el ratoncito Pérez (our version of the tooth fairy) has a standing safe-conduct to continue performing his duties under the current lockdown.  :)
;D So, she's submitted her flight notification forms (for at least the next few months) for approval?   ;)

PD
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on April 18, 2020, 01:02:51 PM
Well, if it’s of any comfort, the Spanish Science Minister has just said in a press conference that el ratoncito Pérez (our version of the tooth fairy) has a standing safe-conduct to continue performing his duties under the current lockdown.  :)
Excellent news.  :)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on April 19, 2020, 10:30:35 AM
Ok, last night's dream was hilarious.

It started off with me playing some game like Grand Theft Auto (which I've never played), so I used some ramp to go way high up in the air and then crashed through the top story of some tall apartment building.

Now it shifts to first-person (more like real life rather than playing a game). Inside was a studio apartment, where there was just three things- a bed, a silver Lamborghini (yes, inside the apartment somehow) and some black dude living there. I was confused how he got the car inside the building, but I got an idea that I thought would make him laugh.

I punched through the walls, and two rooms over I showed him something funny (knowing how video games copy/paste stuff). So living there was the exact same thing- a bed, a silver Lamborghini and another guy that looked exactly like him. We both started dying of laughter and the dream ended.

   
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 16, 2020, 06:50:31 AM
I have a lot of vivid dreams, it’s interesting when the same places appear again or the dreams repeat such as those where I discover a beautiful room or garden around the house that I’d somehow forgotten all about.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Florestan on June 16, 2020, 06:58:39 AM
Frequently recurrent dreams: earthquakes (Richter 9 and above, judging from how bad the buildings rock); teeth falling; having to take the baccalaureate exam again; plus some erotic dreams I'll keep silent about.  :D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 16, 2020, 07:11:03 AM
Teeth and exams are very common. There's earthquakes in Romania? I never lived in an earthquake area, rather I've had many dreams of tornados since they are super common in the places I've lived.

Definitely subconscious fears manifested...


I have a lot of vivid dreams, it’s interesting when the same places appear again or the dreams repeat such as those where I discover a beautiful room or garden around the house that I’d somehow forgotten all about.
Forgetting about an entire room in your house?  ???
Either you live in a mansion or it's just dreams being goofy...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 16, 2020, 07:15:13 AM
having to take the baccalaureate exam again

I used to have recurring dreams about leaving university part way through and getting a job but then being caught and made to go back for the last year. They eventually changed to me going back for that last year because I liked living there and the city, but in those dreams I worried they’d find out I’d gone back and make me go to lectures and exams :-[.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 16, 2020, 07:17:29 AM
There's earthquakes in Romania? I never lived in an earthquake area, rather I've had many dreams of tornados since they are super common in the places I've lived.

We were once woken by a small earthquake on holiday in Wales. The first one to realise what was going on and evacuate the building was actually the dog ???.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Florestan on June 16, 2020, 07:17:49 AM
There's earthquakes in Romania?

Yes, it's actually quite an active seismic area. The biggest I've experienced was Richter 7.4 in 1977 (I was 5 at the time but I vividly remember the walls of the apartment undulating).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 16, 2020, 07:26:19 AM
Forgetting about an entire room in your house?  ???
Either you live in a mansion or it's just dreams being goofy...

I guess it’s trying to remind me that there’s something wonderful that I’m overlooking.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 16, 2020, 09:15:02 AM
I guess it’s trying to remind me that there’s something wonderful that I’m overlooking.
That's quite a nice interpretation!



I used to have recurring dreams about leaving university part way through and getting a job but then being caught and made to go back for the last year. They eventually changed to me going back for that last year because I liked living there and the city, but in those dreams I worried they’d find out I’d gone back and make me go to lectures and exams :-[.
Once IRL shortly after I graduated I pretended to still be in a class for a day so I could hang out with my friends. There was a sub that day and she had no idea. Could even be illegal, idk, but whatever. 😆

I've had similar dreams, like where I was at some high school campus and memorized that I had certain classes but that I hadn't been in certain ones for a really long time, and it was okay... for some reason... why though? Lol


Also I wonder if everyone has the experience of having visual and auditory hallucinations when actually falling asleep? I think the term is hypnagogic imagery? The sense may be different for people also... especially considering the people with no internal dialogue, do they experience it then, or just never?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 17, 2020, 04:29:21 AM
Once IRL shortly after I graduated I pretended to still be in a class for a day so I could hang out with my friends. There was a sub that day and she had no idea. Could even be illegal, idk, but whatever. 😆

Crikey, I’m surprised nobody thought you’d gone back to do a massacre and called the SWAT team to shoot you $:).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 17, 2020, 04:32:47 AM
I was just going places in my dream city last night. Parts of it are recognisably based on Manchester but tend to be larger and more dramatic with bits of other places mixed in. It definitely has a layout and routes through it I’ve come to know.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 17, 2020, 04:58:30 AM
Also I wonder if everyone has the experience of having visual and auditory hallucinations when actually falling asleep?

With me it happens more often when I'm waking up. I often hear the front door bell ring when it actually hasn't. It's so real I'd swear someone was at the door but Mrs. Rock assures me no one rang (she's usually up before me).

Sarge
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 17, 2020, 05:06:12 AM
I was just going places in my dream city last night. Parts of it are recognisably based on Manchester but tend to be larger and more dramatic with bits of other places mixed in. It definitely has a layout and routes through it I’ve come to know.

I have a familiar city dreamscape also, one that keeps recurring. Magnificent buildings and bridges crossing a river. The dream usually takes the form of me trying to get back home (my dream home) and being blocked by impossibly large maze-like, multi-level warehouses and machine shops.

Sarge
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 17, 2020, 05:54:11 AM
I have a familiar city dreamscape also, one that keeps recurring. Magnificent buildings and bridges crossing a river. The dream usually takes the form of me trying to get back home (my dream home) and being blocked by impossibly large maze-like, multi-level warehouses and machine shops.

Sarge

Is that the horrors of work keeping you from getting back home?
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Sergeant Rock on June 17, 2020, 08:19:52 AM
Is that the horrors of work keeping you from getting back home?

I don't think so, simply because I no longer work (been retired for over twenty years).  But then again, maybe it does have something to do with past work conditions although I have specific dreams too about former jobs. I often find myself back in the army but out of uniform or sporting an unmilitary appearance (missing headgear or wearing a beard and long hair, hoping the First Sergeant won't see me  ;D )

Sarge
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 17, 2020, 08:23:54 AM
With me it happens more often when I'm waking up. I often hear the front door bell ring when it actually hasn't. It's so real I'd swear someone was at the door but Mrs. Rock assures me no one rang (she's usually up before me).

Sarge
Could be false awakenings. Maybe just auditory sense for you, but I would have everything, literally waking up and moving around in my bedroom before I knew I was dreaming. Usually happens after 6-8 hours of sleep.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on June 19, 2020, 01:53:03 AM
Water pouring into the house from a hole in the wall (probably I needed to go to the loo). I was on the phone to my elderly auntie who died a couple of years ago aged 90. I told her that I needed to end the call to phone the plumber - but she refused to get off the phone and just carried on talking non-stop while the house filled up with water.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 19, 2020, 05:39:13 AM
That does sound like a pee dream.  :D

I dreamed last night of taking to Pewdiepie and his wife Marzia on the phone. But I just remember the ending part, where I was talking only to her, so got much more interested than I should be. I was walking on the beach and commenting that there were over 3000 people for some event going on, that's almost like bringing a small town in. The asking if the word 'butte' is Swedish or German, so she said it means 'intestine.' Then dead silence for a bit and the dream ended.


(https://www.tubefilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/marzia-youtube.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 19, 2020, 06:45:41 AM
Wow you both had dreams of talking to women on the telephone :-\.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 19, 2020, 08:28:48 AM
Wow you both had dreams of talking to women on the telephone :-\.
:D

Didn't catch that, but yeah, that is funny.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: vandermolen on June 19, 2020, 08:46:51 AM
Yes, but I was talking to my 90 year old auntie  ;D
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on June 27, 2020, 07:11:02 PM
A dream I haven’t had before, where I was living in a city in an authoritarian foreign country. I was standing at the front of the building where I lived watching an enormous crowd who were marching to protest about something. The army turned up and mowed them down with machine guns, following and shooting them as they tried to run back. A few apparent plain clothes state security officers observing from the sides saw me but took no action. I wandered through the empty city, heading for the train station to leave and go back home.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on June 27, 2020, 09:14:43 PM
A dream I haven’t had before, where I was living in a city in an authoritarian foreign country. I was standing at the front of the building where I lived watching an enormous crowd who were marching to protest about something. The army turned up and mowed them down with machine guns, following and shooting them as they tried to run back. A few apparent plain clothes state security officers observing from the sides saw me but took no action. I wandered through the empty city, heading for the train station to leave and go back home.
Doesn't sound so fun.  :-X
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on July 17, 2020, 06:08:25 PM
This was unusual. I asked a woman going to a meeting with me what was in a canister like a fire extinguisher she was carrying. Turned out if the meeting went bad it was to inject into people so they’d die and could be replaced by duplicates stored in her truck :o.

Before that there was a period in a shopping mall pondering how to descend. The flights of steps turned abruptly into vertical drops and the fast moving escalators plummeted down through waterfalls. Someone near me got soaked trying and had to be hauled back out.

There was a nice bit earlier though where I lived in a really big house, so big I had a tree in my room :).
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 17, 2020, 06:21:58 PM
Dreamt that one of my choir members has a composing prodigy of a son, and that we walked to Symphony Hall to hear the BSO play a Concerto for Orchestra written by the boy, and which was a piece I enjoyed very much. I was then at lunch with the conductor, and three other composers. On one hand, all the other composers spoke up first. On the other, after we got up from the table, I did at last have the conductor's ear, and he agreed to read my Symphony with the orchestra.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on July 17, 2020, 08:41:26 PM
Dreamt that one of my choir members has a composing prodigy of a son, and that we walked to Symphony Hall to hear the BSO play a Concerto for Orchestra written by the boy, and which was a piece I enjoyed very much. I was then at lunch with the conductor, and three other composers. On one hand, all the other composers spoke up first. On the other, after we got up from the table, I did at last have the conductor's ear, and he agreed to read my Symphony with the orchestra.
Too realistic, seems closer to something you'd just catch yourself wishing!  ;D



This was unusual. I asked a woman going to a meeting with me what was in a canister like a fire extinguisher she was carrying. Turned out if the meeting went bad it was to inject into people so they’d die and could be replaced by duplicates stored in her truck :o.

Before that there was a period in a shopping mall pondering how to descend. The flights of steps turned abruptly into vertical drops and the fast moving escalators plummeted down through waterfalls. Someone near me got soaked trying and had to be hauled back out.

There was a nice bit earlier though where I lived in a really big house, so big I had a tree in my room :).
This sort of stuff sounds more like something I'd dream.... seems like a "what if?" type of reimagining of the environment.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 11, 2020, 06:55:56 AM
Last two nights dreams of many different animals, but the only one from memory is seeing the "remains" of a dead snake. But the remains weren't really how you'd picture them, in fact, it was just fluids and ball-like flesh. I thought about owning a snake in the dream but figured it wasn't a good idea because they look like this when they die (IRL they don't, obviously) and also I wouldn't want to worry about it getting loose.

So I looked up the dream meaning of dead snakes.


Cherry picking a few things, but the same theme is shared among all the sources- a positive omen representing some triumph over something negative:

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The dead snake indicates that despite any problems you have in life you can combat and overcome the most adverse situations.
In ancient dream dictionaries, a dead snake is a positive omen, the snake itself represents rebirth in life.
There is a connection that the snake is associated with deception and there is a belief that the snake plays a prominent part in our subconscious mind.
A dead snake is a positive omen and indicates that you do not have to do worry too much about money.

If there is any meaning, it could be related in how I'm trying to get back into studying Japanese. Last week I was trying to get back into drawing, but it was just overwhelmingly hard, so after a week I had decided I can only focus on Japanese study, drawing, or both. I might have to postpone drawing practice for another few years, until I get good enough at Japanese (if I study consistently). I'd hate to think of drawing as a dead snake, but eh, whatever.  ::)


(just a thought, but I used to constantly have dreams of being in rooms completely covered with cockroaches and worms when younger, but that is rare now- wondering if there is some relation... either way, many of them would die because I'd step on them, but it was annoying to have to get through)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on September 11, 2020, 08:01:46 PM
Snakes grow by casting off their old skin which has come to restrict them. My Tarot book says the series of scorpion, snake and eagle has been known since Egyptian times as a series of transformations like that of the caterpillar to the butterfly, and that the curled snake is a symbol of the wisdom that comes through learning from experience.

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on September 11, 2020, 08:22:11 PM

If there is any meaning, it could be related in how I'm trying to get back into studying Japanese.

I recommend any books written by Donald Keene though they are not directly related to Japanese language.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 11, 2020, 08:31:51 PM
Snakes grow by casting off their old skin which has come to restrict them. My Tarot book says the series of scorpion, snake and eagle has been known since Egyptian times as a series of transformations like that of the caterpillar to the butterfly, and that the curled snake is a symbol of the wisdom that comes through learning from experience.
Yeah, the snake shedding skin would be a sign of rebirth or getting rid of something wearing you down. Seems pretty clear.


Also I was thinking today that throughout my life I have a pretty consistent pattern of in dreams being chased by something destructive and just letting it happen, being either slightly amused or apathetic. Which is not at all how I would feel IRL. This could be fun to think about... it could be a sign of being tired of having to help myself, and just wanting to not have to expend energy, even in the face of danger...

and the most common dream of going back to my childhood home I've read is a sign of wanting to return to a simpler time, which would 100% be a correct interpretation.

Putting it altogether, killing bugs (which are small annoyances), running from dangerous stuff, and escaping to simpler times. And meeting celebrities.


(probably should reread this thread though, 2007 is quite a ways back)




I recommend any books written by Donald Keene though they are not directly related to Japanese language.
Sure, will look him up.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: 71 dB on September 12, 2020, 04:08:48 AM
In my dream last night there was a large book (about 2 inches/ 5 cm thick) and it was made by an employer from all the job application material it had received for a job. So, my dream was some kind of symbolism about how so many people are applying to the same jobs and how hopeless it is to get a job...  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 12, 2020, 08:13:05 AM
In my dream last night there was a large book (about 2 inches/ 5 cm thick) and it was made by an employer from all the job application material it had received for a job. So, my dream was some kind of symbolism about how so many people are applying to the same jobs and how hopeless it is to get a job...  :P
:-X
definitely have experienced that before...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Christo on September 12, 2020, 08:38:54 AM
I am one of those who - almost - never remember a dream, except for the fact that I had one.  ::)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: 71 dB on September 12, 2020, 10:34:29 AM
I am one of those who - almost - never remember a dream, except for the fact that I had one.  ::)

Most of my dreams I don't remember, but sometimes I see so "vivid" dreams I remember them even after decades! It's as if those dreams were burned into my brain, part of me as a person.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 12, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
Most of my dreams I don't remember, but sometimes I see so "vivid" dreams I remember them even after decades! It's as if those dreams were burned into my brain, part of me as a person.
Yeah, same here. Ever have any dreams that seem so realistic that they seem more "real" than actual real life? I've had a few, though they are rare.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: steve ridgway on September 14, 2020, 07:49:35 PM
Yeah, same here. Ever have any dreams that seem so realistic that they seem more "real" than actual real life? I've had a few, though they are rare.

Oh loads, one the other night where I opened what looked like a cupboard door only to discover a whole suite of furnished rooms with clothes, books and stuff that looked like it had been left in the 1930s, apart from it was all clean, no dust.

In terms of “real” you might like this one from a couple of weeks ago. There was a clear and relevant message in it but we needn’t go into that. So one morning in real life I spilt an eggcup full of charcoal powder (used for cleaning teeth) in the empty bathroom washbasin which must have had a layer of coconut oil round it. In trying to wash the powder away it formed something like a black greasepaint which completely coated my hands and it took me five minutes of washing with warm soapy water to get it all off. On going downstairs I explained to my wife what had taken me so long, as she was all ready to go out with the dogs. And she was like “WTF I dreamed last night I’d spilt a toner cartridge which went all over my hands and turned them black!” :o. It’s exactly the same stuff - powdered carbon. ???
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on September 24, 2020, 05:11:00 AM
Dreamed that I went to this restaurant which was having a concert for the band Rings of Saturn.

At first, people in the back were complaining the bathroom wasn't working. Then, after the performance was over, we went around the stage to the area behind it, which is where we could order the food.

Lucas Mann (lead guitarist of the band) had his own signature pizza, so I ordered some slices for my friend. The were super expensive (like $40 for a few slices), but at least they were huge pieces. When the guy served them to us, one of the pieces had cheese burnt down the middle of the slice. Lucas, being discerning about quality control, took a knife and scraped off the burnt section in the middle for us.

Then we sat down to eat. Some of the tastiest pizza I've had. The crust had a smoky sort of flavor to it. I was thinking it was so much better than some of the frozen pizza I get where the crust is mushy (actually try to avoid buying those, they're gross).

So then I had the idea of talking more with Lucas, and wanted to tell him that one of the guitars he had for sale a while ago was the coolest design I've seen on a guitar... but the dream sort of ended there...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: Wendell_E on September 28, 2020, 02:00:27 AM
I rarely remember my dreams, but I do recall bits of this one from last week: I was in a voting line inside a building. Don't remember many details from that part, but after I left the building, I heard the voice of a former co-worker (he was sick and quit last December, and died of brain cancer in March) over an intercom saying "Wendell, call 911, there's a fire in here!" Talking to myself, I said, "What, no-one who's actually in the building has a phone?". A lady who was also in the crowd, our accountant who only comes in once a month, turns around and says "I know, right?"

Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 14, 2020, 07:30:41 AM
Dreamed of being in Russia, was at some people's house for a bit and decided to walk around in the neighborhood.

Mostly I was trying to compare the different style of a Russian suburb compared to where I'm from, it was magical, just random curiosity I didn't know I had until dreaming... 0:)
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 16, 2020, 06:55:37 AM
Dreamed of being in a house that had both Belle Delphine and Elon Musk in it.

Did very little talking to them and waking up really really sucked. They are probably the two most interesting people I can think of, could just talk to them for hours.

I think it's the first time I dreamed about Belle? But for Elon, it's at least the 5th time...
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 20, 2020, 06:20:30 AM
Dreamed of owning a killer whale, petting its smooth blubber and trying to understand how those weird eyes worked.

Those animals seem to be really positive dream signs.
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 25, 2020, 09:09:42 AM
Dreamed about hearing an orchestra play something by Debussy live, and then after about 20 seconds, the audience started clapping loudly, so the orchestra just completely stopped. They wanted to start over while letting the audience know that it isn't okay to clap so loudly before it's over.

Wondering if that has ever happened before.  :P
Title: Re: Post your dreams
Post by: greg on October 27, 2020, 07:06:25 AM
Dreamed of being in a house that had both Belle Delphine and Elon Musk in it.

Did very little talking to them and waking up really really sucked. They are probably the two most interesting people I can think of, could just talk to them for hours.

I think it's the first time I dreamed about Belle? But for Elon, it's at least the 5th time...
I'm starting to feel like these two people are highly archetypal to me...
 
To start with, what they both relate to each other is that they are both doing what they want to do. So that is the glue.

The difference is their approach- Elon being an overachieving madman and Belle being a hedonistic crackpot weirdo.

Basically, they represent my life- Elon by day, Belle by night....  Working on my work work and also my album by day, playing video games and thinking weird stuff at night.

That split is something I've noticed a lot, and why the trait of conscientiousness is the most elusive to understand (unlike introversion and openness to experience), because I'm both of these people at the same time- 100% conscientiousness Elon and 0% conscientiousness Belle.


edit:
also, just another thought, but I kinda feel like Kanye West is a third archetype that is like a merger of Elon and Belle, crackpot yet successful businessman.

Idk how he mixes the two, though, it's only easy to separate them IMO.