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Title: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 18, 2017, 08:56:22 AM
This will become GMG's most popular thread, ever.
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Post by: Crudblud on September 18, 2017, 09:02:00 AM
The Boselands from down the street are out back sniffing my wheat and I don't much care for it.
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Post by: Mahlerian on September 18, 2017, 09:03:33 AM
Harpsichords are really quite loud.
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Post by: (: premont :) on September 18, 2017, 09:07:37 AM
Harpsichords are really quite loud.

Yes, this may be their soft spot.  :P
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Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on September 18, 2017, 09:36:01 AM
Scriabin was a much better composer than Chopin!   :P
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Post by: Sergeant Rock on September 18, 2017, 10:12:24 AM
Never argue; repeat your assertion.
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Post by: Brian on September 18, 2017, 10:14:56 AM
This sentence is false.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: nodogen on September 18, 2017, 12:30:54 PM
A generalisation is never true.
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Post by: nodogen on September 18, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
Schrödinger's cat suffers from anxiety.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: nodogen on September 18, 2017, 12:38:12 PM
This thread needs clarification, I know.


Is it intended that one should make an assertion that no one could rationally argue against, or that one should feel no fear when positing an assertion (whatever it may be).
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on September 18, 2017, 01:17:33 PM
Never argue; repeat your assertion.

There are two kinds of people--those who try to win, and those who try to win arguments. They are never the same.

- Nassim Taleb
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 19, 2017, 05:29:01 AM
You are A-number-one!
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Post by: zamyrabyrd on September 19, 2017, 05:31:26 AM
The moon is made of cheese.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 19, 2017, 07:23:47 AM
My cheese is sharper than your cheese.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Mahlerian on September 19, 2017, 07:40:18 AM
George Lucas is the only worthy writer ever nominated for an Academy Award.

(He actually was, though)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 19, 2017, 07:46:20 AM
Whatever may have been true in the past, the Academy Awards, the Emmys, &c. are now a farce.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Mahlerian on September 19, 2017, 07:47:27 AM
Whatever may have been true in the past, the Academy Awards, the Emmys, &c. are now a farce.

I don't think you need to fear contradiction there!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: ritter on September 19, 2017, 07:56:18 AM
There's more German chauvinism in one measure of Ein deutsches Requiem than in the whole of Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg.

Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: nodogen on September 19, 2017, 08:26:02 AM
There are three kinds of people: those who think and those that don't think.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Ghost Sonata on September 19, 2017, 08:55:27 AM
The ale you quaff that's insufficient to quench your thirst, makes an ocean when spilt; the Kleenex that's too tiny to accommodate your sinal drips becomes endless when pulled from the dryer in scraps.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on September 19, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
There are two kinds of people: Those who divide humanity into two groups and those who don't.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: SharpEleventh on September 19, 2017, 11:52:47 AM
I shall go against the premise of this thread.

*Fears contradiction*
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: vandermolen on September 19, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
There is no such thing as obsessive-compulsive CD purchasing disorder.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: DaveF on September 19, 2017, 12:22:48 PM
This will become GMG's most popular thread, ever.

No it won't.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: nodogen on September 19, 2017, 01:10:20 PM
I shall go against the premise of this thread.

When?
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Mahlerian on September 20, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
This thread will never die.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: aleazk on September 20, 2017, 12:01:54 PM
Someone will contradict this post.
Title: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 20, 2017, 03:44:11 PM
Elvis is alive.

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Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: nodogen on September 21, 2017, 01:43:22 AM
The health care system is really great in Nigger. I myself am making a lot of money out of it from those loser Niggerians.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 21, 2017, 02:29:31 AM
Everyone invents countries, sometime or other.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Ghost Sonata on September 21, 2017, 02:40:51 AM
Continuing on the Bach blitz.  Janowitz is esp. strong in this recording.  RE: HvK, I love the variation here on the two-hand baton clutch, an affectation normally used to convey intensity and commitment to the music.  (Or simply a conductor's unwillingness to share his/her stick).  This version is actually stronger, more graceful, suggesting not just the aforementioned, but also latency, power about to be unleashed.  Capable hands those.



 (This thread is already starting to subsume other threads and WILL take over).  "What are you currently listening to" will acquiesce and wither...
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Mahlerian on September 22, 2017, 06:46:11 AM
Wozzeck really was the best opera of the 20th century.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 22, 2017, 07:34:46 AM
No conductor who has not mastered the two-hand baton clutch is any use!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on September 22, 2017, 12:28:59 PM

     My thoughts think me.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Scots John on September 22, 2017, 12:50:56 PM
Someone will contradict this post.

No they wont.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Ghost Sonata on September 22, 2017, 05:36:37 PM
No conductor who has not mastered the two-hand baton clutch is any use!

Uncontradictable that, even if it were contradictable which it is not because of the thread wherein we live.  Hermann Bäumer here demonstrating the relaxed two-hand baton clutch:



Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Mirror Image on September 22, 2017, 07:21:21 PM
This thread frightens me to no end.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 23, 2017, 03:30:48 AM
Pigs live in trees.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Florestan on September 23, 2017, 04:39:27 AM
The cult of Beethoven (for which he himself bears little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.

The Austrian-German Canon (for which the composers themselves bear little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.

The contemporary concert life has not yet fully recovered from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon.

EDIT: Some people will never recover from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon. They are not even aware of the problem.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on September 23, 2017, 05:47:19 AM
The cult of Beethoven (for which he himself bears little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.
The Austrian-German Canon (for which the composers themselves bear little responsibility) had a stifling and deleterious influence on subsequent composers.
The contemporary concert life has not yet fully recovered from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon.
EDIT: Some people will never recover from the stifling and deleterious influence of both the cult of Beethoven and the Austrian-German Canon. They are not even aware of the problem.

A Romanian in my circle of acquaintance has the same opinion.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Spineur on September 23, 2017, 05:48:22 AM
Quote
When one is loved, one has no doubt.  When one loves, everything is source of doubt.

Colette
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on September 23, 2017, 06:14:17 AM
This thread frightens me to no end.

This thread amuses me to some end.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on September 25, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
Sound the TRUMPets thread is finally on page two, woo-hoo!!!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2017, 02:32:28 AM
A day at the beach is a day better spent than a day at the office.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: MN Dave on September 25, 2017, 02:55:40 PM
CLAMS GOT LEGS!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on September 26, 2017, 03:27:22 AM


      I assert I don't fear contradiction.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 26, 2017, 03:28:04 AM
Coca-Cola is evil
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on September 26, 2017, 03:29:44 AM

     Evil is high fructose corn syrup
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Mahlerian on September 26, 2017, 04:41:21 PM
At least one person who has claimed "atonal music" is bad because "no one can hear a wrong note" has listened to this performance (by far the most popular version on YouTube!) without flinching:
https://www.youtube.com/v/6z4KK7RWjmk
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2017, 02:08:42 AM
Musicians are the worst.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: MN Dave on September 27, 2017, 04:07:22 AM
Coca-Cola is evil

Diet Coke is definitely evil.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2017, 04:08:01 AM
Xylitol is people!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: pjme on September 27, 2017, 04:18:59 AM

Long red ties are a sign of intelligence.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2017, 04:26:50 AM
I'm the smartest person I know!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: david johnson on September 27, 2017, 11:22:28 PM
The Earth is definitely flat.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 02, 2017, 03:26:13 AM
Never.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on October 03, 2017, 03:10:41 AM
I'm the smartest person I know!

Oh, really?
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 03, 2017, 03:57:33 AM
Jesus wants all His children to have guns.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 03, 2017, 03:58:18 AM
Oh, really?

Do you know, I think that person I am quoting really believes it.  Anyway, he wants us all to believe it.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on October 03, 2017, 05:21:33 AM
Do you know, I think that person I am quoting really believes it.  Anyway, he wants us all to believe it.

"Lock him up."
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on October 03, 2017, 06:48:28 AM
Among his friends, Franz Peter Schubert was addressed as "Schube."  Usually with an exclamation mark: SCHUBE!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on October 03, 2017, 06:49:26 AM
Peanut butter M&Ms are the most addictive substance in the known universe.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on October 03, 2017, 08:07:09 AM
Among his friends, Franz Peter Schubert was addressed as "Schube."  Usually with an exclamation mark: SCHUBE!

Franz was commonly referred to by his friends as "little mushroom". or Schwammerl.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 03, 2017, 09:02:06 AM
Fish tacos are an aphrodisiac.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: geralmar on October 03, 2017, 07:11:39 PM
For all its impact on race relations in the U.S. "affirmative action" might just as well have been devised by the Ku Klux Klan.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Marc on October 04, 2017, 02:06:28 AM
Franz Schubert was commonly referred to by his friends as "Kannewas".
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on October 06, 2017, 06:15:03 AM
Franz was commonly referred to by his friends as "little mushroom". or Schwammerl.

At least one of his friends addressed him as "The Schoobulizer,"  and two other friends were known to address him as "Schoobster."  One friend addressed him as "Schube."  All entirely true, of course.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 06, 2017, 06:22:35 AM
I am having a great day.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Marc on October 06, 2017, 06:34:08 AM
All Henningmusick is composed by Andrea Luchesi.
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Post by: drogulus on October 06, 2017, 12:08:45 PM


     Whatever else I do besides think, I therefore am.
Title: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 06, 2017, 05:02:48 PM
All mutant girls are adorable.

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Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Marc on October 07, 2017, 06:37:08 AM
My poop smells heavenly.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 09, 2017, 05:49:20 AM
Connecticut is north of Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on October 27, 2017, 10:06:44 AM

     Nothing doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 27, 2017, 10:07:48 AM
What is, is.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 27, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Rats live on no evil star.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2017, 10:55:36 AM
This sentence is not true.
This sentence is false.
Looks like nobody is contradicting that one!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Brian on October 27, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
Hah!

Did you read the book Gödel, Escher, Bach, by any chance?
Not yet; I did sit in on one of the author's lectures, a few years ago.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on October 27, 2017, 01:07:15 PM


Did you read the book Gödel, Escher, Bach, by any chance?

     I did it on purpose. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: lisa needs braces on October 27, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
1. Democratic party head-honchos were very gleeful about a Hillary vs Trump match in 2016 because they were very hopeful that a whole lot of Republicans would find Donald Trump unacceptable, BUT...
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Post by: lisa needs braces on October 27, 2017, 11:22:33 PM
2. They completely discounted all the disaffected voters who were tired off both parties. People who would have voted for Bernie Sanders gave Donald Trump the edge he needed.

/fin
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on November 01, 2017, 09:45:07 AM

     I saw Bernie get off a plane at the Washington airport.
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Post by: Omicron9 on November 01, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
Hot apple cider is always better with a sprinkle of pumpkin pie spice mix.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Todd on November 02, 2017, 06:42:17 AM
The world needs more superhero movies.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 02, 2017, 07:05:43 AM
Kale is evil.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on November 06, 2017, 05:00:02 PM

    My one and only Spy Novel Queen is a Unitarian atheist with a turtle as a spirit animal.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: You did it on November 06, 2017, 05:07:02 PM
There are no assertive statements!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: NikF on November 08, 2017, 09:39:27 AM
Only on the Internet does anyone care about what camera, lens, software, triggers, computer etc is used when you take photos. And the same applies about how much you can bench press.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on November 08, 2017, 10:06:37 AM
What is, is.

What isn't, isn't.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on November 08, 2017, 10:32:15 AM

     I don't fear contradiction no matter what I assert. A translucent lobster controls the internet. Annihilation energy could power the globe for a month from a grain of sand. Hawking says we have 600 years to get off the planet or we go extinct. I take a trolly to the 7-11 to get mixed nuts and Polar cream soda. I have never been the caretaker.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 08, 2017, 11:14:16 AM
Vladimir Putin is a heckuva guy.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: You did it on November 10, 2017, 09:27:05 PM
It is impossible to make a contradiction and I will prove it. Fear is a trait of assertion, making it possible.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 11, 2017, 07:53:06 AM
Beethoven was a space alien.
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Post by: Florestan on November 29, 2017, 12:54:03 AM
Richard Taruskin was right: the true heir of Mozart was Rossini, not Beethoven.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: (: premont :) on November 29, 2017, 01:11:58 AM
What isn't, isn't.

I do not know what "isn't" is.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: You did it on November 29, 2017, 07:53:54 PM
I do not know what "isn't" is.

Is "it" or "isn't" a thing? Or is it not?
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: snyprrr on November 29, 2017, 09:34:47 PM
The Universe is Electrical in Nature,not Gravitational
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 30, 2017, 02:18:04 AM
Your shirt is wet.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: You did it on November 30, 2017, 02:25:01 AM
Your shirt is wet.


It was an intentional accident  :D
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Parsifal on November 30, 2017, 12:08:15 PM
The Universe is Electrical in Nature,not Gravitational

Some assertions are sufficiently vague as to be uncontradictable.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Andante on November 30, 2017, 04:07:45 PM
a TRUMP is a load of hot air...
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on November 30, 2017, 07:42:42 PM
a TRUMP is a load of hot air...

Indeed it is, and no prizes as to the place of origin of that air.......................
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Andante on November 30, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
Indeed it is, and no prizes as to the place of origin of that air.......................

Hi jessop I have been hearing a bit about you on TC.... gone but not forgotten eh  ;)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 01, 2017, 05:46:26 AM
Jessop plays a four-string guitar.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 06, 2018, 05:55:51 AM
Trump has only one testicle.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Baron Scarpia on March 08, 2018, 11:00:12 AM
Sibelius' 8th symphony probably stunk.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Andante on March 08, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
Trump has only one testicle.

So do all self respecting plumbers it’s called a “Ball” cock.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Spineur on March 08, 2018, 01:08:55 PM
In ref to Donald Trump:
"It is not the tail that moves the dog"
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 08, 2018, 02:07:59 PM
Sibelius' 8th symphony probably stunk.

Right!  Why else would he have destroyed it?!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 08, 2018, 02:21:53 PM
Sibelius' 8th symphony probably stunk.

Not contradicting you (staying on topic)...but the 8th is a smell I'd've liked to inhale  ;D

Sarge
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Baron Scarpia on March 08, 2018, 02:23:00 PM
Well, after he burned it, obviously! :)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 08, 2018, 02:25:19 PM
Well, after he burned it, obviously! :)

Ah, the bouquet of burnt symphony...

Sarge
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 08, 2018, 02:54:33 PM
Nothing like marshmallows melted over the coals of a burnt symphony!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Sergeant Rock on March 08, 2018, 02:57:34 PM
Nothing like marshmallows melted over the coals of a burnt symphony!

Sibelius S'mores...nothing better!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on March 08, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
Jessop plays a banjo
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 09, 2018, 02:16:21 AM
Jessop plays a banjo

I've seen it!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: drogulus on April 02, 2018, 09:48:44 AM

     The Universe is beige.
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Post by: Mahlerian on April 02, 2018, 09:52:44 AM
I will make the last post before the site goes down.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 02, 2018, 09:54:31 AM
Kale is evil.
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Post by: ComposerOfAvantGarde on April 07, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
The Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra is the Sacred Cow of classical music.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Turner on April 07, 2018, 10:27:53 PM
Cruise tourists are generally ignorant and lazy, a burden to try to help.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 08, 2018, 05:53:02 AM
Everyone should own a gun.  Preferably two.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Turner on April 08, 2018, 05:57:38 AM
Spelling errors in geographical names should result in a week's prison sentence for adults.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: North Star on April 08, 2018, 06:13:20 AM
Spelling errors in geographical names should result in renaming of said geographical names.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 08, 2018, 06:25:12 AM
There are no geogaphical spelling errfors.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Spineur on April 08, 2018, 11:17:21 AM
A spelling error turns Rasputin into gas Putin.  Or maybe it is just a question of language.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Turner on April 08, 2018, 12:35:53 PM
Pre-packed sliced cheese should be forbidden.
Title: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 08, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
Don't even start with aerosol cheese.

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Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on June 26, 2018, 08:31:18 AM
Dvorak's socks never matched.  Ever.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on June 26, 2018, 08:32:24 AM
Trump has only one testicle.

It's located between his ears.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 26, 2018, 08:38:58 AM
It's located between his ears.

Those aren't ears.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 04:38:16 AM
Yesterday while driving I listened to Beethoven's 7th, live recording with Carlos Kleiber and the Bavarian RSO. Halfway through the final movement I suddenly remembered, and quite agreed with*, Weber's remark upon hearing it: Beethoven is ripe for the madhouse.

* in the sense that, this is indeed music that can drive one crazy.

And to think that 30 years ago this was one of my favorite symphonies. Truly and inescapably tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.   :(
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 04:45:47 AM
Yesterday while driving I listened to Beethoven's 7th, live recording with Carlos Kleiber and the Bavarian RSO. Halfway through the final movement I suddenly remembered, and quite agreed with*, Weber's remark upon hearing it: Beethoven is ripe for the madhouse.

That is strange indeed coming from Weber. I would think that the 7th Symphony would be at the top of his like list.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 06:06:16 AM
Don't get me wrong, Beethoven is and forever will be on my Top 10 list*. It's just that I much prefer his chamber and concertante output to his symphonies, and of the latter I much prefer the even-numbered ones.

* Although not the first and foremost, as he was 30 years ago.  :D
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 07:19:26 AM
Don't get me wrong, Beethoven is and forever will be on my Top 10 list*. It's just that I much prefer his chamber and concertante output to his symphonies, and of the latter I much prefer the even-numbered ones.
* Although not the first and foremost, as he was 30 years ago.  :D

I meant Weber's, in so far as he was a melodist, but nevermind.
My attitude towards Beethoven has changed over the years.
I think his best work may be in the string quartets.
I am not so sure about his fugal writing at the end of his career as in Op. 110 piano sonata (which I continue to break my head over) and the Grosse Fuge leaves me cold. In fact there are patches of his earlier piano sonatas that seem to me like filler. In contrast to a musician in a school where I was teaching, I don't think every note he wrote was divinely inspired. It's difficult for me to sit through 5 minutes of the Chorale Fantasy, for instance.
The 7th Symphony for me definitely emanates from Elysium, however.
The 4th and 5th piano concerti are very special and so is his violin concerto.
I appreciate deeply several of his violin and piano sonatas, and those for 'cello, especially the later ones.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 07:34:18 AM
I meant Weber's, in so far as he was a melodist, but nevermind.

Well, I think Beethoven's 7th is not among his most melodious works.

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It's difficult for me to sit through 5 minutes of the Chorale Fantasy, for instance.

Hah! I'd rather sit through the CF than through the whole 9th.  :)

Beethoven is the origin of much that was excellent in 19th century music, but also of much that was execrable.

Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 07:57:23 AM
Hah! I'd rather sit through the CF than through the whole 9th.  :)

Funny, I know another Romanian who thinks this way. When I was teaching music history to high school conservatory students, I realized that the 9th Symphony first performed in 1824 was already a dinosaur, out of sync with the times. It really belonged together with the "Ode to Joy", to the revolutionary spirit of the end of the 18th century

Beethoven is the origin of much that was excellent in 19th century music, but also of much that was execrable.

I don't know about that. So much was different after the turn of the 19th century. Even Schubert who admired Beethoven, did not follow in his footsteps.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Florestan on June 30, 2018, 08:02:58 AM
Funny, I know another Romanian who thinks this way.

Must be in our genes.  :laugh:

Even Schubert who admired Beethoven, did not follow in his footsteps.

Fortunately.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: eljr on June 30, 2018, 01:19:29 PM
Trumpets are traders.

I know this is not something that anyone reasoned would take issue with but i posted it here for the challenged.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: NikF on June 30, 2018, 08:29:45 PM
For the way most people employ it, the 85mm focal length does not make a 'good portrait lens' on a cropped sensor. And somewhat related -

- Flickr is just the Internet equivalent of a refrigerator door.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on June 30, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
Trumpets are traders.

I know this is not something that anyone reasoned would take issue with but i posted it here for the challenged.

Hope this helps!

The free marketplace of ideas and goods, sounds OK to me!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2018, 08:07:03 AM
A hologram is no different from a real being.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on July 03, 2018, 11:22:06 AM
Anagrams can be made from alphabet soup.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: eljr on July 03, 2018, 12:55:58 PM
The free marketplace of ideas and goods, sounds OK to me!

LOL  :)

Got me.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Kontrapunctus on July 03, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
Rap is not even music.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 03, 2018, 02:16:06 PM
It's all music.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: zamyrabyrd on July 03, 2018, 09:05:35 PM
It's all mathematics.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 05, 2018, 09:02:31 PM
The Vanilla slice is a sweet thing
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 05, 2018, 11:47:40 PM
The Internet causes cancer.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: NikF on September 06, 2018, 01:03:57 AM
Duke does indeed love you madly.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 06, 2018, 03:50:52 AM
Them what love me, loves me madly.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 06, 2018, 03:07:54 PM
I want my ashes ejected into Uranus Orbit with a 4'33" period

Then I'd be a Ring playing Cage for as long as possible ;)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Capeditiea on September 06, 2018, 05:20:50 PM
I am the Goddess of Contradictions and horrible at asserting

Saint Saens was the first to remix music.

The harder to spell named composers have amazing music.

Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 07, 2018, 02:13:49 AM
The earth is flat.  But septagonal.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: marvinbrown on September 07, 2018, 04:45:51 AM


  I get "younger" the faster I go...... :P
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on September 25, 2018, 07:38:54 AM
Dvorak's socks never matched.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2018, 07:42:54 AM
Brahms snatched the odd Dvořák sock, and sniggered.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: MN Dave on September 25, 2018, 07:57:39 AM
The Earth is flat...ter than some other planets.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 25, 2018, 08:07:27 AM
The Earth is not a planet!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on September 25, 2018, 09:39:10 PM
Earth is Dirt simple
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: MN Dave on September 26, 2018, 05:50:52 AM
People are people.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 26, 2018, 06:03:38 AM
Everybody loves Chopin.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on September 26, 2018, 06:08:53 PM
Chopin' wood is easy
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2018, 12:09:18 AM
Axes never need sharpening.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Omicron9 on September 27, 2018, 01:26:12 AM
The Earth is not a planet!

Wait... that sounds like contradiction to the preceding post.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2018, 02:30:39 AM
Wait... that sounds like contradiction to the preceding post.

Ach!  My bad.

Sorry, Heavy Metal Dave!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Florestan on September 27, 2018, 08:46:56 AM
The burden of proof is on the one who claims, not on the one who denies the claim.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 27, 2018, 08:48:52 AM
I'm the best!
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Rosalba on September 28, 2018, 05:12:22 AM
Yorkshire is God's own county.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 28, 2018, 05:28:24 AM
I have eleven toes.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Rosalba on September 28, 2018, 06:48:56 AM
I once came to face to face with George Harrison outside the Royal Albert Hall - but he didn't recognise me.  :(
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 28, 2018, 06:59:02 AM
I have Elven toes.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: EddieRUKiddingVarese on September 28, 2018, 11:58:39 AM
I come from Downunder
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: MN Dave on September 28, 2018, 12:01:02 PM
ich bin ein auslander
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 28, 2018, 12:39:04 PM
I come from Downunder
I come from over and a little to the side.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Iota on September 28, 2018, 02:40:31 PM
A number of Prokofiev's Visions Fugitives wear winklepickers.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: mc ukrneal on September 28, 2018, 10:24:06 PM
.. winklepickers.
I had to look that up. Didn't know they had a name (though pictures were more helpful than description: "a shoe with a long pointed toe, popular in the 1950s")...
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Iota on September 29, 2018, 02:42:35 AM
I had to look that up. Didn't know they had a name (though pictures were more helpful than description: "a shoe with a long pointed toe, popular in the 1950s")...

I don't know where you are, but perhaps it's just a UK thing. It's a description I've known since childhood, I always imagined the idea was that the toes are sharp enough to prise winkles (seashells) off the rocks, but there may be a more widely accepted genealogy out there I haven't come across.
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Rosalba on September 29, 2018, 02:48:46 AM
I don't know where you are, but perhaps it's just a UK thing. It's a description I've known since childhood, I always imagined the idea was that the toes are sharp enough to prise winkles (seashells) off the rocks, but there may be a more widely accepted genealogy out there I haven't come across.

Not 'off the rocks' - or at least, I always assumed it's because boiled winkles were sold as a food-item on stalls (e.g. at Whitby) and we were each issued with a pin to get the varmint out of its shell.

Snacks were rare so as a child, I would eat these - as an adult, no thanks. As I remember, the winkles experience was of salt-cum-viscosity. 
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Iota on September 29, 2018, 03:27:52 AM
Not 'off the rocks' - or at least, I always assumed it's because boiled winkles were sold as a food-item on stalls (e.g. at Whitby) and we were each issued with a pin to get the varmint out of its shell.

Snacks were rare so as a child, I would eat these - as an adult, no thanks. As I remember, the winkles experience was of salt-cum-viscosity.

Aha, yes that sounds far more likely. I've never eaten a winkle, nor worn a winklepicker, and your description of the former confirms my feeling that things are probably best left that way.  :)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: hpowders on October 01, 2018, 04:42:52 PM
Assertion: Listen to all the classical music you can, because nobody has ever seen a U-Haul attached to the Bach of a hearse.  :-[
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Sydney Nova Scotia on October 01, 2018, 07:20:51 PM
But U-Haul are Offenbach  8)
Title: Re: Make Any Assertion Without Fear of Contradiction
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on November 09, 2018, 09:30:20 AM
Nancy Pelosi is awesome!