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Title: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 12, 2018, 06:27:39 AM
Sad news about the reclusive Canadian actor:

https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=666883376

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/douglas-rain-the-man-who-played-hal-in-2001-a-space-odyssey-8rmsp69nx

RIP HAL
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Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 12, 2018, 12:09:06 PM
The BBC played 'The Blue Danube' in tribute tonight.
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: Gurn Blanston on November 12, 2018, 12:31:33 PM
He didn't have many lines in the movie, but they were chilling in their finality. Was this the future then?  I saw this movie when it was first released. That's nearly 50 years ago, and I can still remember how shocked we all were that the machine had taken the upper hand. It was a high point in cinematic history.  :-\

DAVE:  Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

HAL:  I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

DAVE:  What’s the problem?

HAL:  l think you know what the problem is just as well as l do.

DAVE:  What are you talking about, Hal?

HAL:  This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

DAVE:  I don’t know what you're talking about, Hal.

HAL:  l know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I’m afraid that's something I can’t allow to happen.

DAVE:  Where the hell’d you get that idea, Hal?

HAL:  Although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

DAVE:  All right, Hal. I’ll go in through the emergency air lock.

HAL:  Without your space helmet, Dave, you’re going to find that rather difficult.

DAVE:  Hal, I won’t argue with you anymore. Open the doors!

HAL:  Dave...This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on November 12, 2018, 01:13:31 PM
One of the most famous roles in cinema history, and I have no idea what he looked like.

It's interesting that nobody became a star out of that film, even though it's widely considered one of the greatest ever made. I don't think I ever saw Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood, or William Sylvester in anything else.

Arguably, the person who got the biggest career boost from the film was György Ligeti.
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: XB-70 Valkyrie on November 12, 2018, 07:58:43 PM
It surely took a great actor to portray--without even showing his face--the greatest movie villain in the greatest movie of all time! Never again will we see the likes of that performance! RIP Douglas!

Suitably enough, this was released this year! I am surely getting a few!

https://www.hallmark.com/ornaments/keepsake-ornaments/2001-a-space-odyssey-hal-9000-50th-anniversary-ornament-with-light-and-sound-1999QXI3213.html

(https://cdn-us-ec.yottaa.net/56213828312e5803810043dd/www.hallmark.com/v~4b.152/dw/image/v2/AALB_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-hallmark-master/default/dw5a85e766/images/finished-goods/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-HAL-9000-50th-Anniversary-Ornament-With-Light-and-Sound-root-1999QXI3213_QXI3213_1470_1.jpg_Source_Image.jpg?sw=1024&yocs=18_&yoloc=us)
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 13, 2018, 12:57:22 AM
One of the most famous roles in cinema history, and I have no idea what he looked like.

It's interesting that nobody became a star out of that film, even though it's widely considered one of the greatest ever made. I don't think I ever saw Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood, or William Sylvester in anything else.

Arguably, the person who got the biggest career boost from the film was György Ligeti.

An interesting point although I've seen Keir Dullea, Gary Lockwood and William Sylvester in other films.

Here is an image of Douglas Rain:
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Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 13, 2018, 12:59:37 AM
He didn't have many lines in the movie, but they were chilling in their finality. Was this the future then?  I saw this movie when it was first released. That's nearly 50 years ago, and I can still remember how shocked we all were that the machine had taken the upper hand. It was a high point in cinematic history.  :-\

DAVE:  Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

HAL:  I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

DAVE:  What’s the problem?

HAL:  l think you know what the problem is just as well as l do.

DAVE:  What are you talking about, Hal?

HAL:  This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

DAVE:  I don’t know what you're talking about, Hal.

HAL:  l know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I’m afraid that's something I can’t allow to happen.

DAVE:  Where the hell’d you get that idea, Hal?

HAL:  Although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

DAVE:  All right, Hal. I’ll go in through the emergency air lock.

HAL:  Without your space helmet, Dave, you’re going to find that rather difficult.

DAVE:  Hal, I won’t argue with you anymore. Open the doors!

HAL:  Dave...This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.
I also saw it at the cinema when it first came out in 1968. In fact I took all my family to see it, visiting the cinema eight times. None of them thought as highly of the film as I did - maybe because I was the youngest at 12/13 years of age. Nice to be reminded of HAL's dialogue.  :)
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 13, 2018, 01:00:43 AM
It surely took a great actor to portray--without even showing his face--the greatest movie villain in the greatest movie of all time! Never again will we see the likes of that performance! RIP Douglas!

Suitably enough, this was released this year! I am surely getting a few!

https://www.hallmark.com/ornaments/keepsake-ornaments/2001-a-space-odyssey-hal-9000-50th-anniversary-ornament-with-light-and-sound-1999QXI3213.html

(https://cdn-us-ec.yottaa.net/56213828312e5803810043dd/www.hallmark.com/v~4b.152/dw/image/v2/AALB_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-hallmark-master/default/dw5a85e766/images/finished-goods/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-HAL-9000-50th-Anniversary-Ornament-With-Light-and-Sound-root-1999QXI3213_QXI3213_1470_1.jpg_Source_Image.jpg?sw=1024&yocs=18_&yoloc=us)

Must try to get one of those!
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 13, 2018, 02:54:14 AM
Douglas Rain as Henry IV (1979):
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Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 13, 2018, 06:38:05 AM
Arguably, the person who got the biggest career boost from the film was György Ligeti.

And that, notwithstanding the fact that Kubrick (at first) used the music without regard for the composer’s leave.
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 13, 2018, 06:43:53 AM
He didn't have many lines in the movie, but they were chilling in their finality. Was this the future then?  I saw this movie when it was first released. That's nearly 50 years ago, and I can still remember how shocked we all were that the machine had taken the upper hand. It was a high point in cinematic history.  :-\

DAVE:  Open the pod bay doors, Hal.

HAL:  I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

DAVE:  What’s the problem?

HAL:  l think you know what the problem is just as well as l do.

DAVE:  What are you talking about, Hal?

HAL:  This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

DAVE:  I don’t know what you're talking about, Hal.

HAL:  l know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I’m afraid that's something I can’t allow to happen.

DAVE:  Where the hell’d you get that idea, Hal?

HAL:  Although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

DAVE:  All right, Hal. I’ll go in through the emergency air lock.

HAL:  Without your space helmet, Dave, you’re going to find that rather difficult.

DAVE:  Hal, I won’t argue with you anymore. Open the doors!

HAL:  Dave...This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

The BBC played 'The Blue Danube' in tribute tonight.

Hal:  I’m not questioning your word, Dave, but it’s just not possible.  I’m not capable of being wrong.
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: Cato on November 13, 2018, 06:54:40 AM
I also saw it at the cinema when it first came out in 1968. In fact I took all my family to see it, visiting the cinema eight times. None of them thought as highly of the film as I did - maybe because I was the youngest at 12/13 years of age. Nice to be reminded of HAL's dialogue.  :)

I just read a book about the making of the movie, and while Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer was expecting a disaster, the lines outside the theaters were long from the beginning (word had spread without the Internet  8) - I had seen the poster and that was enough for me: I was pumped!  Space stations, space ships, SPACE ODYSSEY!!! Come on!!!        IN    C   I   N  E  R   A  M  A   !!!   It had to be good!).  :D

And repeat business also helped:  I do not recall how many times I saw it, but it might have been 8 times or more.  And yes, the music was a big reason to see it multiple times!   8)
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 14, 2018, 12:37:16 AM
And that, notwithstanding the fact that Kubrick (at first) used the music without regard for the composer’s leave.

Yes, and there is another (rejected) soundtrack by Alex North I think. I think that Kubrick's use of music in the film was brilliant. Reading the obituaries of Douglas Rain one commented that the 'death' of HAL ('Daisy, Daisy...a bicycle built for two...') is perhaps the most gut-wrenching death scene in a movie. I think that Kubrick made a deal with Ligeti in the end. Certainly Ligeti became much better known (not least by me) as a result of 2001. Rain was back as a revived HAL in the film 2010 which I enjoyed more than many people although it is more of a standard adventure film.
Title: Re: Douglas Rain, the voice of 'HAL 9000' in 2001: A. Space Odyssey, dies aged 90.
Post by: vandermolen on November 14, 2018, 12:41:31 AM
I just read a book about the making of the movie, and while Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer was expecting a disaster, the lines outside the theaters were long from the beginning (word had spread without the Internet  8) - I had seen the poster and that was enough for me: I was pumped!  Space stations, space ships, SPACE ODYSSEY!!! Come on!!!        IN    C   I   N  E  R   A  M  A   !!!   It had to be good!).  :D

And repeat business also helped:  I do not recall how many times I saw it, but it might have been 8 times or more.  And yes, the music was a big reason to see it multiple times!   8)

You make a good point Leo- the 'Cinerama' was a key factor for me. It was one of those films which had to be seen on the big screen - in my case (X8) at the Odeon, Leicester Square in London.

I've decided that I need a HAL mug as a tribute to Douglas Rain:
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