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Title: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2019, 07:09:21 AM
Do you prefer "Symphony Orchestra" or "Philharmonic Orchestra"?

What about various alternative names out there?

I like the simplicity and elegance of plain names like Minnesota Orchestra. I also like the rather romantic name of the old radio band "Symphony of the Air." Orchestra of the 18th Century is a cool, descriptive name.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Biffo on January 14, 2019, 07:17:49 AM
I have always liked the snappily named Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire (de Paris). 'de Paris seems optional.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: kyjo on January 14, 2019, 07:27:55 AM
My favorite has to be the Grand Symphony Orchestra of the All-Union Radio and Television ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2019, 08:00:34 AM
I have always liked the snappily named Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire (de Paris). 'de Paris seems optional.
That one is such a pain to document in my listening log. I opt for "Paris Conservatoire Orch"  ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: king ubu on January 14, 2019, 08:12:26 AM
Do you prefer "Symphony Orchestra" or "Philharmonic Orchestra"?

You can have both combined, of course, the Philharmonic-Symphony Society of New York, Inc.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: André on January 14, 2019, 09:03:49 AM
Right now I’m listening to Schéhérazade (Rimsky’s) played by the Borusan Istanbul Philharmonic Orchestra on the Onyx label.

It’s named after its sponsor, the turkish Borusan conglomerate. I guess the name itself doesn’t have another meaning.

French orchestras used to be named after their founder’s name: Pasdeloup, Lamoureux, Colonne, Straram.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2019, 09:05:45 AM
You can have both combined, of course, the Philharmonic-Symphony Society of New York, Inc.
or the Czech Chamber Philharmonic, Pardubiče
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 14, 2019, 09:20:21 AM
I think it is quaint that there are still orchestras around named after their idiosyncratic founder. For example, the Halle orchestra, and Orchestre Lamoureux, also known as Société des Nouveaux-Concerts.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Mandryka on January 14, 2019, 09:40:05 AM
Les gens qui parlent français et qui connaissent Le père noel et une ordure comprennent bien pourquoi j’adore le nom The Cluj Philharmonic.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/x7kAAOSw3utY6JQ5/s-l640.jpg)

(https://i.skyrock.net/9569/12899569/pics/356521461_small.jpg)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 14, 2019, 09:48:40 AM
I have always liked the snappily named Orchestre de la Société des Concerts du Conservatoire (de Paris). 'de Paris seems optional.

There's Orchestra dell’Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia, but that can't compete with the Paris Conservatorie. On the other hand, Santa Cecilia still exists.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: André on January 14, 2019, 10:14:53 AM
The Paris Conservatoire still exists. Its current director is composer Bruno Mantovani. I don’t know about the Orchestre, though.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatoire_de_Paris (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatoire_de_Paris)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 14, 2019, 10:25:11 AM
The Paris Conservatoire still exists. Its current director is composer Bruno Mantovani. I don’t know about the Orchestre, though.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatoire_de_Paris (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatoire_de_Paris)

I was referring to the orchestra, which was dissolved in 1967, although in some sense the Orchestre de Paris is it's successor.

Amazing that the French Government would dissolve an orchestra that had existed since 1828.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 14, 2019, 10:46:19 AM
My favorite has to be the Grand Symphony Orchestra of the All-Union Radio and Television ;D
+1

+ Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 14, 2019, 10:53:19 AM
I like it when orchestras are named after the hall they play in - Concertgebouw, Gewandhaus. Of course, the hall has to have an interesting name. I wouldn't want the CSO to rename itself the Orchestra Hall Orchestra, that would be stupid.

HIP orchestras have the most stylish names (Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique; Il Giardino Armonico; etc.).

It's a good thing the Albany Symphony Orchestra doesn't call itself Orchestra Albany, because that is the name of a street gang:

https://ganglifechicago.com/category/orchestra-albany/
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 14, 2019, 11:02:10 AM
Others I like:

Sudwestfunkorchester Baden-Baden

USSR Symphony Orchestra

L'Orchestre de la Suisse Romande

Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks

Orquesta Filarmonica de Gran Canaria (Great CD of Walton's First Symphony).
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Florestan on January 14, 2019, 11:18:49 AM
Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique
Orchestra of the Age of the Enlightenment
Freiburger Barockorchester
Les Violons du Roy
L'Orchestra Haydn di Bolzano e Trento (Haydn-Orchester von Bozen und Trient)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: JBS on January 14, 2019, 11:21:46 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_%C3%89curie_et_la_Chambre_du_Roy
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on January 14, 2019, 11:32:13 AM
Oregon Symphony (no "Orchestra")
Academy of Ancient Music
Handel and Haydn Society
Concentus Musicus Wien
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 14, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
Academy of Saint Martin-in-the-Field sounds so delightfully pastoral.

French orchestra names sound so sophisticated to an English speaker. To a French speaker I am sure they are oh so mundane.

Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Francaise,
Orchestre Philharmonique des Pays de Loire
Orchestre National du Capitole de Toulouse
Orchestre du Theatres des Champs-Elysees
La Chapelle Royale
Ensemble Musique Oblique

(forgive me for any transcription errors).
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2019, 11:57:51 AM
HIP orchestras have the most stylish names (Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique; Il Giardino Armonico; etc.).

Oooh, not to mention Gli Incogniti! Although I suppose they may be a chamber group?

They can't beat The Harmonious Society of Tickle-Fiddle Gentlemen though.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 14, 2019, 12:18:04 PM
Groups specializing in contemporary music have very cool names:

Ensemble InterContemporain
Ensemble Modern
Klangforum Wien
Alarm Will Sound
California EAR Unit
Ensemble Dal Niente

Oregon Symphony (no "Orchestra")

Oregon Symphony sounds like a piece of music, a program symphony dedicated to the wonders of that state (Mvt. 1 "Dance of the Portland Hipsters," Mvt. 2 "A Drive along the Pacific Coast," Mvt. 3 "Todd's Beethoven Collection")
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: king ubu on January 14, 2019, 12:56:28 PM
I Musici - plain and simple ... some other good ones: Modo Antiquo, Il pomo d'oro, Accademia Bizantina (fitting for a band based in Ravenna), and then there's Café Zimmermann, too.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2019, 01:01:45 PM
Oregon Symphony sounds like a piece of music, a program symphony dedicated to the wonders of that state (Mvt. 1 "Dance of the Portland Hipsters," Mvt. 2 "A Drive along the Pacific Coast," Mvt. 3 "Todd's Beethoven Collection")
;D ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on January 14, 2019, 01:11:23 PM
Academy of St. Martin in the Fields - the fields doing it
Hallé Orchestra
Bamberger Symphoniker
Concerts Lamoureux
Stabile Orchestrale Fiorentina
Ural Philharmonic Orchestra
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: André on January 14, 2019, 01:16:01 PM
I was referring to the orchestra, which was dissolved in 1967, although in some sense the Orchestre de Paris is it's successor.

Amazing that the French Government would dissolve an orchestra that had existed since 1828.

Yes and no. The OSCC was renamed Orchestre de Paris and pursues an independent life, unrelated to its parent body, the Paris Conservatoire. The latter still fields an orchestra, but it is one among many teaching instruments. Conservatoire students can play in it, hear performances, but it doesn’t give concerts. It draws its players from a pool of some 350 Conservatoire students, constantly renewed and deployed in various configurations (chamber, full orchestra, etc). IOW there is a Conservatoire orchestra but nobody can hear it  :(.


http://www.conservatoiredeparis.fr/etudes/orchestres-et-compagnies/orchestre-du-conservatoire/ (http://www.conservatoiredeparis.fr/etudes/orchestres-et-compagnies/orchestre-du-conservatoire/)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 14, 2019, 01:24:23 PM
Academy of Saint Martin-in-the-Field sounds so delightfully pastoral.

French orchestra names sound so sophisticated to an English speaker. To a French speaker I am sure they are oh so mundane.

Orchestre National de la Radiodiffusion Francaise,
Orchestre Philharmonique des Pays de Loire
Orchestre National du Capitole de Toulouse
Orchestre du Theatres des Champs-Elysees
La Chapelle Royale
Ensemble Musique Oblique

(forgive me for any transcription errors).
I agree with you.

Orchestre National du Capitol de Toulouse (great Magnard cycle with Plasson)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 14, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
My local band, rivaling some of the French orchestras in unwieldy name:  Deutsche Staatsphilharmonie Rheinland-Pfalz. I also like the Orchestra of the Swan, an English orchestra based in Stratford-upon-Avon.

Sarge
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 14, 2019, 02:17:36 PM
Another vote for the Ural Philharmonic (great Miaskovsky Symphony 6) from me.

I think I prefer 'Philharmonic' to 'Symphony'.

As for British orchestras I like the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra

+

Leningrad Philharmonic (although obviously not a British orchestra  ::))
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 14, 2019, 02:19:43 PM
Oh, and of course how could we forget the Philharmonia.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 14, 2019, 02:24:53 PM
Oh, and of course how could we forget the Philharmonia.

And the New Philharmonia!
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Jo498 on January 14, 2019, 02:54:44 PM
L'Europa Galante

I also like some of the elaborate names mentioned already. Another
Neues Bachisches Collegium Musicum Leipzig

Orquesta Gulbenkian

Or the RIAS-Sinfonieorchester. RIAS meant "Rundfunk im amerikanischen Sektor", radio broadcast in the American sector
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on January 14, 2019, 03:23:20 PM
Or the RIAS-Sinfonieorchester. RIAS meant "Rundfunk im amerikanischen Sektor", radio broadcast in the American sector

Now called the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester, which has always confused me, because isn't every orchestra in Berlin a German orchestra?
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: North Star on January 14, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
Les Arts Florissants
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 14, 2019, 04:46:21 PM
Now called the Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester, which has always confused me, because isn't every orchestra in Berlin a German orchestra?
Not necessarily a question for you, but then why (for example) hasn't the RIAS Kammerchor chnaged its name?  It would seem the name is a relic of history. This is especially true considering how many groups in Europe have changed their names (sometimes multiple times).
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 14, 2019, 04:59:43 PM
Not necessarily a question for you, but then why (for example) hasn't the RIAS Kammerchor chnaged its name?  It would seem the name is a relic of history. This is especially true considering how many groups in Europe have changed their names (sometimes multiple times).

Sometimes the initials become the name, independent of the initial meaning. AT&T doesn't sell many Telegraphs these days...
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: JBS on January 14, 2019, 05:43:56 PM
Academy of St. Martin in the Fields - the fields doing it


Ironically, it hasn't been in the fields for centuries. It actually sits on Trafalgar Square (although the church long predates the Square), and officially counts among its parishioners the Royal Family and whoever lives in 10 Downing Street.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Martin-in-the-Fields
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 14, 2019, 06:04:02 PM
Sometimes the initials become the name, independent of the initial meaning. AT&T doesn't sell many Telegraphs these days...

That's true. I guess it looks different from the inside.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on January 14, 2019, 10:51:57 PM
Ironically, it hasn't been in the fields for centuries. It actually sits on Trafalgar Square (although the church long predates the Square), and officially counts among its parishioners the Royal Family and whoever lives in 10 Downing Street.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Martin-in-the-Fields
Many thanks; didn't know about the royal parishioners (hope they participate  8)), but find the Café in the Crypt a fine place to recover a bit from city walks and also attended a concert here, a couple of years ago. (Mozart, but still).  ;)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Jo498 on January 15, 2019, 02:18:31 AM
Not necessarily a question for you, but then why (for example) hasn't the RIAS Kammerchor chnaged its name?  It would seem the name is a relic of history. This is especially true considering how many groups in Europe have changed their names (sometimes multiple times).
The orchestra changed its name once in the 50ties to Rundfunk-Symphonie-Orchester, after it became associated with the SFB (Sender Freies Berlin). Then in the 1990s the name was changed again because there was another Rundfunkorchester from the Eastern part of the city. I agree with the other reply that "Deutsches Symphonie-Orchester" does sound odd but there is also a "Deutsche Oper" in Berlin, so the idea is probably that it is something like the Capital City National Orchestra.
I guess the choir kept its name because it had become famous under that name.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: ritter on January 15, 2019, 03:02:09 AM
There was the (Paris based?) 0rchestre des Cento Soli, which made some recordings under distinguished conductors (e.g. Hermann Scherchen) in the 1950s. To me at least, the name had connotations of a not too cohesive ensemble (one hundred soloists each going their own way  ;D)....

Then, there’s the Orquesta Estable del Teatro Colón. The “estable” in the name reflects that it’s a permanent ensemble for the Buenos Aires opera house (the term was also used in various Italian groups), but it always made me wonder whether there’s an ‘unstable” orchestra as well. :)

And I’ve always liked the names Wiener Philharmoniker and Berliner Philharmoniker. Strictly translated, they mean “Viennese / Berlinese philharmonics”, i.e. they refer to the members of the orchestras, rather than to the ensembles as a group. The same applies to the “Symphoniker”.

Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 15, 2019, 03:40:11 AM
Many thanks; didn't know about the royal parishioners (hope they participate  8)), but find the Café in the Crypt a fine place to recover a bit from city walks and also attended a concert here, a couple of years ago. (Mozart, but still).  ;)
Cafe in the Crypt is a great place to eat, drink or meet up in central London. Not too expensive and nice wine!
 :)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Florestan on January 15, 2019, 06:26:32 AM
Oregon Symphony sounds like a piece of music, a program symphony dedicated to the wonders of that state (Mvt. 1 "Dance of the Portland Hipsters," Mvt. 2 "A Drive along the Pacific Coast," Mvt. 3 "Todd's Beethoven Collection")

You forgot Mvt. 4 "The Asian Invasion".
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: TheGSMoeller on January 15, 2019, 07:59:24 AM
It's a tie between The Philip Glass Ensemble and The Michael Nyman Band.  ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on January 15, 2019, 08:06:40 AM
Yes and no. The OSCC was renamed Orchestre de Paris and pursues an independent life, unrelated to its parent body, the Paris Conservatoire. The latter still fields an orchestra, but it is one among many teaching instruments. Conservatoire students can play in it, hear performances, but it doesn’t give concerts. It draws its players from a pool of some 350 Conservatoire students, constantly renewed and deployed in various configurations (chamber, full orchestra, etc). IOW there is a Conservatoire orchestra but nobody can hear it  :(.


http://www.conservatoiredeparis.fr/etudes/orchestres-et-compagnies/orchestre-du-conservatoire/ (http://www.conservatoiredeparis.fr/etudes/orchestres-et-compagnies/orchestre-du-conservatoire/)

Occasionally that orchestra does perform in public. I heard them in 2005 /Paris / Cité de la Musique :

Œuvres de Varèse, Jolivet et Messiaen par Yvonne Naef (mezzo-soprano), Chœur de l'Armée française, Orchestre du Conservatoire, Pierre Boulez (direction).

Varèse: Equatorial
Messiaen: Poèmes pour Mi
Jolivet: 5 danses rituelles

Memorable!


Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: ritter on January 15, 2019, 08:18:34 AM
Occasionally that orchestra does perform in public. I heard them in 2005 /Paris / Cité de la Musique :

Œuvres de Varèse, Jolivet et Messiaen par Yvonne Naef (mezzo-soprano), Chœur de l'Armée française, Orchestre du Conservatoire, Pierre Boulez (direction).

Varèse: Equatorial
Messiaen: Poèmes pour Mi
Jolivet: 5 danses rituelles

Memorable!
Wow! Must have been memorable indeed. AFAIK, the only occasion in which Boulez conducted Jolivet (a composer whose Mana and Cinq danses rituelles he admired in his youth).

It's a tie between The Philip Glass Ensemble and The Michael Nyman Band.  ;D
Nothing compared to Daniel Barenboim’s The Boulez Ensemble.  ;D

THREAD DUTY:

Two really imposing names from Germany: Sächsische Staatskapelle Dresden and Philharmonisches Staatsorchester Hamburg.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on January 15, 2019, 08:28:11 AM
Let's not forget the women only orchestras:

the Cleveland Women's Orchestra

Albert Roussel wrote his string Symphonietta for the "Orchestre féminin de Paris" (Jane Evrard conductor)

I like another tongue twister : Orchestra dell'Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia (di Roma).

Brazilian / South American orchestras add exotic charm:

Orquestra Sinfônica do Estado de São Paulo
Orquestra Sinfônica de Porto Alegre
Orquestra Filarmônica de Minas Gerais
Mato Grosso Chamber Orchestra
Orquestra Sinfonica de Piracicaba OSP
Orquesta Nacional de Música Argentina "Juan de Dios Filiberto"
Orquesta Sinfònica Provincial de Bahía Blanca

A good wind ensemble in Belgium:
I Solisti del Vento
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 15, 2019, 10:14:14 AM
This seems like a good place to ask questions about orchestra names I don't understand or wonder about the origin. There are lots of German examples, but the one I currently am trying to figure out is French: Orchestre de l'Association des Concerts Lamoureux (a cool name too, so in keeping with the thread).
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Jo498 on January 15, 2019, 10:29:10 AM
Lamoureux was the founder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lamoureux
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 15, 2019, 10:31:21 AM
This seems like a good place to ask questions about orchestra names I don't understand or wonder about the origin. There are lots of German examples, but the one I currently am trying to figure out is French: Orchestre de l'Association des Concerts Lamoureux (a cool name too, so in keeping with the thread).

Lamoureux was the name of the conductor who founded the orchestra to perform weakly concerts of new music. Not knowing French, I assume something along the lines of "orchestra of Lamoureux's concert association."
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: mc ukrneal on January 15, 2019, 10:36:13 AM
Lamoureux was the founder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lamoureux

Huh. I missed that page somehow. Maybe I misspelled it. So what exactly is an orchestral concert society (which is what the wiki calls it)? This one gave several interesting premieres (looking at you Ken!) and had some interesting principal conductors.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 15, 2019, 10:40:44 AM
Huh. I missed that page somehow. Maybe I misspelled it. So what exactly is an orchestral concert society (which is what the wiki calls it)? This one gave several interesting premieres (looking at you Ken!) and had some interesting principal conductors.

I assume it is similar to a modern orchestra subscription, people buy the subscription and get to attend the series of concerts, but on more of an entrepreneurial basis, rather than the modern government/corporate subsidized model.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Jo498 on January 15, 2019, 11:04:56 AM
It could be either this. I think the Wiener Musikverein is such a case. Or simply a complicated name of the orchestra itself, regardless of the sponsoring or whatever model of financing the concerts. The original name of the orchestra Lamoureux founded was "Société des Nouveaux-Concerts"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_der_Musikfreunde

This made me look up the "Hallé orchestra" also named after the founder (something I had not known but always wondered about the name). Turns out that the guy came from Germany and was simply named (Karl) "Halle" (like Handel's birthplace). He gave himself the accent for a more fancy name, I guess.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on January 15, 2019, 11:16:49 AM
The society idea goes back to the late 1700s, when public concerts got underway in cities like London - the idea was that you probably won't be seeing an entirely identical lineup of musicians every performance (and also that, as a subscriber, you were a member of the society...).
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: North Star on January 15, 2019, 11:21:24 AM
This made me look up the "Hallé orchestra" also named after the founder (something I had not known but always wondered about the name). Turns out that the guy came from Germany and was simply named (Karl) "Halle" (like Handel's birthplace). He gave himself the accent for a more fancy name, I guess.
I would guess he added the accent to make it clear that the e is not silent.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Florestan on January 15, 2019, 11:26:55 AM
I like another tongue twister : Orchestra dell'Accademia Nazionale di Santa Cecilia (di Roma).

You call Italian language a tongue twister?  :o Then how about Symfonisch Blaasorkest "Amsterdamse Tramharmonie", Het Brabants Orkest or Koninklijk Filharmonisch Orkest van Vlaanderen?  ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on January 15, 2019, 11:32:54 AM
No one has mentioned my favorite US ensemble names

Grand Funk Railroad
Parliament Funkadelic

 0:)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on January 15, 2019, 11:43:43 AM
You call Italian language a tongue twister?  :o Then how about Symfonisch Blaasorkest "Amsterdamse Tramharmonie", Het Brabants Orkest or Koninklijk Filharmonisch Orkest van Vlaanderen?  ;D
All easy going & flowing sounds.  :-X
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: JBS on January 15, 2019, 11:53:45 AM
All easy going & flowing sounds.  :-X
As easy at least as
Orchestra Simfonica Bucuresti or
Orchestrele şi Corurile Radio or
ORCHESTRA FILARMONICII GEORGE ENESCU or
Filarmonica „Banatul” Timişoara
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Florestan on January 15, 2019, 12:06:35 PM
All easy going & flowing sounds.  :-X

Prior to living in The Netherlands I had considered German an ugly, harsh-sounding language. After a few months in Eindhoven I thought German was a most beautiful, sweet-sounding language.  :laugh:

As easy at least as
Orchestra Simfonica Bucuresti or
Orchestrele şi Corurile Radio or
ORCHESTRA FILARMONICII GEORGE ENESCU or
Filarmonica „Banatul” Timişoara

Piece of cake for an Italian, especially when taught that "ş" sounds like "sh" in English.   ;)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on January 15, 2019, 12:21:46 PM
Prior to living in The Netherlands I had considered German an ugly, harsh-sounding language. After a few months in Eindhoven I thought German was a most beautiful, sweet-sounding language.  :laugh:
Eindhoven relates to the Netherlands as Galați does to Romania - but with the historical centre mostly destroyed. I.e. not the only possible entry, nor a place where the far sweeter sounds of Low-Saxon are heard.  8) Anyhow: love German.  ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Florestan on January 15, 2019, 12:39:27 PM
Eindhoven relates to the Netherlands as Galați does to Romania - but with the historical centre mostly destroyed. I.e. not the only possible entry, nor a place where the far sweeter sounds of Low-Saxon are heard.  8) Anyhow: love German.  ;D

Excepting the fact that the historical center of Galați is mostly destroyed as well, the analogy is wrong, Galați lies in the historical province of Moldavia, where the pronunciation is notorious for making consonants sweet and soft and vowels sweeter and softer. :D

A better analogy would be Târgu Jiu (pronounce that!), in the historical province of Oltenia, where the pronunciation is harsher and hastier.  ;)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on January 15, 2019, 12:47:38 PM
The analogy is wrong. Galați lies in the historical province of Moldavia, where the pronunciation is notorious for making consonants sweet and soft and vowels sweeter and softer. :D
A better analogy would be Târgu Jiu (pronounce that!), in the historical province of Oltenia, where the pronunciation is harsher and hastier.  ;)
I was referring to the industrial scene, not exactly a cultural centre let alone marked by a specific pronunciation (because of the industrial immigrants of Eindhoven, there's hardly a  local dialect, though surrounded by the province of Brabant with its typical Southern variant of Dutch). Correct: I'd rather pronounce 'Târgu Jiu' the Northern way.   8)

Orchestra Simfonica Bucuresti or
Orchestrele şi Corurile Radio or
ORCHESTRA FILARMONICII GEORGE ENESCU or
Filarmonica „Banatul” Timişoara
Think I heard three of them.  :D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on January 15, 2019, 02:13:40 PM
You call Italian language a tongue twister?  :o Then how about Symfonisch Blaasorkest "Amsterdamse Tramharmonie", Het Brabants Orkest or Koninklijk Filharmonisch Orkest van Vlaanderen?  ;D

I do like "symphonic wind orchestras" even if their repertoire can be ..."uneven". I don't know the Amsterdam Tramharmonie but they must be a well respected ensemble. Do check their website:

https://tramharmonie.nl/

(https://tramharmonie.nl/wp-content/uploads/1906-groepsfoto_LA-600x417.jpg)

Het Brabants Orkest (est.1950) no longer exists. I heard them frequently in my youth when they performed in the region of Tilburg, Breda, Eindhoven, 's Hertogenbosch and provincial towns in Belgium (Turnhout).
In 2013 -due to drastic saving measures - it had to merge with het Limburgs Symfonie orkest. A new orchestra was formed , de Philharmonie Zuidnederland. 

https://www.philharmoniezuidnederland.nl/home/

My hometown orchestra is no longer called Koninklijk Filharmonisch Orkest van Vlaanderen (Royal philharmonic orchestra of Flanders).
It went through many names:

At the start, in 1955: De Philharmonie van Antwerpen
januari 1985: Filharmonisch Orkest van Vlaanderen
juli 1985: Koninklijk Filharmonisch Orkest van Vlaanderen
september 2002: Koninklijke Filharmonie van Vlaanderen - roepnaam (=short) "deFilharmonie" (no blank).
april 2017: Antwerp Symphony Orchestra

They're doing a great job - with Herreweghe and Elim Chan as conductors. Martyn Brabbins is often guest, as is Edo de Waart and Christian Lindberg.

http://www.antwerpsymphonyorchestra.be/


Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: André on January 15, 2019, 02:27:42 PM
Occasionally that orchestra does perform in public. I heard them in 2005 /Paris / Cité de la Musique :

Œuvres de Varèse, Jolivet et Messiaen par Yvonne Naef (mezzo-soprano), Chœur de l'Armée française, Orchestre du Conservatoire, Pierre Boulez (direction).

Varèse: Equatorial
Messiaen: Poèmes pour Mi
Jolivet: 5 danses rituelles

Memorable!

Great indeed !
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 16, 2019, 02:26:21 AM
Artur Rubinstein Philharmonic Orchestra
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Biffo on January 16, 2019, 02:43:16 AM
Another fairly long-winded name -The State Symphony Orchestra of the USSR Ministry of Culture. I only have them in the Vaughan Williams symphony cycle conducted by Gennady Rozhdestvensky (a conductor whose name I have to double-check every time I type it).
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 16, 2019, 03:51:34 AM
Another fairly long-winded name -The State Symphony Orchestra of the USSR Ministry of Culture. I only have them in the Vaughan Williams symphony cycle conducted by Gennady Rozhdestvensky (a conductor whose name I have to double-check every time I type it).

Yes, I love those old soviet orchestral names, like Grand Symphony Orchestra of the USSR.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Biffo on January 16, 2019, 04:20:38 AM
Yes, I love those old soviet orchestral names, like Grand Symphony Orchestra of the USSR.

A bit of a pain in the neck to type out when posting. The Sea Symphony from the RVW set also had The Choir of the Leningrad Music Society and The Choir of the Rimsky-Korsakov Muisc College - I think I just put 'and choirs'.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 16, 2019, 09:48:10 AM
A bit of a pain in the neck to type out when posting. The Sea Symphony from the RVW set also had The Choir of the Leningrad Music Society and The Choir of the Rimsky-Korsakov Muisc College - I think I just put 'and choirs'.
:)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 16, 2019, 01:39:15 PM
My CD of Gliere's Cello Concerto is performed by the Russian Cinematographic SO, whose name I rather like.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: André on January 16, 2019, 05:34:13 PM
I received some CDs today. One is by Sergeant Rock’ s hometown band:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91fWeSYA0dL._SX569_.jpg)

And another one is with... what ??

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51mHHVMVwEL.jpg)

I checked the net and I found that Hyvinkää is a city of 46000 in southern Finland. Its Wiki entry makes no mention of an orchestra, but said orchestra does have a web site (with English translation) ! This is one of the 2 recordings they made.  More power to them !
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on January 17, 2019, 02:49:30 AM
I like this one:

The Japan Grand Self-Defence Force Central Band.

And what is more: they perform Koechlin!

https://www.youtube.com/v/TPxhDAeOEwo
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: ritter on January 17, 2019, 03:06:41 AM
I like this one:

The Japan Grand Self-Defence Force Central Band.

And what is more: they perform Koechlin!

https://www.youtube.com/v/TPxhDAeOEwo
Another military band with a great name: Musiques des Équipages de la Flotte de Toulon.

(https://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/storage/images/base-de-medias/images/sga-images/dmpa/fete-de-la-musique/musique-de-toulon/1268206-1-fre-FR/musique-de-toulon.gif)

And they’ve recorded Schmitt, Hindemith and Milhaud!

(https://forgottenrecords.com/data/covers/schmitt-hindemith-milhaud-jean-maillot-front.jpg)

Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 17, 2019, 08:29:46 AM
I like this one:

The Japan Grand Self-Defence Force Central Band.

And what is more: they perform Koechlin!

https://www.youtube.com/v/TPxhDAeOEwo
Possibly my favourite name so far!
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on January 17, 2019, 08:42:52 AM
Aha! The name is propably misspelled on the Koechlin/YT:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71OuFgdyLdL._SX450_.jpg)

Not "grand" but "ground" ...and that makes more sense.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: André on January 17, 2019, 12:50:15 PM
I wonder if they have a back band, a front band and lateral bands ?
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Sergeant Rock on January 17, 2019, 01:12:24 PM
I received some CDs today. One is by Sergeant Rock’ s hometown band:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91fWeSYA0dL._SX569_.jpg)


That looks interesting.

Sarge
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on January 17, 2019, 01:35:58 PM
Sometimes everybody seems happy nobody knows the band's name exactly:
https://www.youtube.com/v/1yHbAhFnfrA
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: NikF on January 20, 2019, 09:17:44 PM
Not a very good answer - or at least, not an exotic one - but I've always liked names that are of radio orchestras, so BBC Symphony Orchestra, NBC Symphony Orchestra, NDR etc simply because of the nostalgia aspect. The idea of sitting down in the evening and switching on the 'wireless' (allowing a few minutes for it to warm up, of course) appeals to me.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on January 21, 2019, 01:20:32 AM
+1!!!!!
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on January 25, 2019, 12:23:26 PM
The Grand Symphony Orchestra of the All-Union Radio Committee (under Nikolai Golovanov) performed the premiere of Miaskovsky's Symphony 23 in a 1942 radio broadcast.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on March 02, 2019, 07:30:20 PM
My favorite has to be the Grand Symphony Orchestra of the All-Union Radio and Television ;D
I believe the full name is:

Grand Symphony Orchestra of All-Union National Radio Service and Central Television Networks

As in this one:

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81ftY65i9LL._SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on March 02, 2019, 07:34:42 PM


(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51mHHVMVwEL.jpg)

I checked the net and I found that Hyvinkää is a city of 46000 in southern Finland. Its Wiki entry makes no mention of an orchestra, but said orchestra does have a web site (with English translation) ! This is one of the 2 recordings they made.  More power to them !
That begs the question what is the smallest population city that has a major symphony orchestra, as in one that most classical music lovers (like on this forum) know about?

I am thinking that would be the Lahti Symphony Orchestra where the city of Lahti has a population of about 120 thousand.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Alek Hidell on March 02, 2019, 08:39:43 PM
I once heard or read somewhere that the way to differentiate between a Symphony and a Philharmonic was whether the musicians were unionized or not. I guess that isn't true, but I wonder where I came across that bit of (apparently false) information. Has anyone else ever heard that?
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Biffo on March 03, 2019, 02:35:50 AM
I once heard or read somewhere that the way to differentiate between a Symphony and a Philharmonic was whether the musicians were unionized or not. I guess that isn't true, but I wonder where I came across that bit of (apparently false) information. Has anyone else ever heard that?

Never heard that before. When the two New York orchestras merged they became the New York Philharmonic Symphony Orchestra; later 'Symphony' was dropped.
The Vienna Philharmonic (and probably others) was founded before musician's unions existed.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: amw on March 03, 2019, 08:22:12 AM
That begs the question what is the smallest population city that has a major symphony orchestra, as in one that most classical music lovers (like on this forum) know about?

I am thinking that would be the Lahti Symphony Orchestra where the city of Lahti has a population of about 120 thousand.
Some options include the Orchestra della Svizzera Italiana, based in Lugano, a town of about 64,000, or the Orchestre Philharmonique de Monte-Carlo, based in Monaco, a city-state of about 40,000.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on March 03, 2019, 09:47:40 AM
That begs the question what is the smallest population city that has a major symphony orchestra, as in one that most classical music lovers (like on this forum) know about?

There are some quite well-known orchestras based in Bamberg, Germany (pop 77K) and Norrkoping, Sweden (pop 95K). Going up the scale a bit, also Saarbrucken, Germany and Bournemouth, England, both around 180K. I've got all of them in my collection. The Bournemouth orchestra is of course very well known and much recorded.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: king ubu on March 03, 2019, 09:57:42 AM
Lamoureux was the name of the conductor who founded the orchestra to perform weakly concerts of new music. Not knowing French, I assume something along the lines of "orchestra of Lamoureux's concert association."

Several others like Lamoureux and Hallé ... at least these two come to mind right away:

Concerts Colonne
founded by Édouard Colonne: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerts_Colonne

Orchestre des Concerts Straram
founded by Walther Straram: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestre_des_concerts_Straram / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Straram

oh, and a third one, Orchestre Pasdeloup or Orchestre des Concerts Pasdeloup (the name mean's "wolf's step")
founded by Jules Pasdeloup: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestre_Pasdeloup


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One I've always found particularly clumsily named is the Orchestre national du Capitole de Toulouse:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestre_national_du_Capitole_de_Toulouse
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: ritter on March 03, 2019, 10:18:36 AM
...
Orchestre des Concerts Straram
founded by Walther Straram: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestre_des_concerts_Straram / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_Straram
...
Many years ago, for a while, I thought the Concerts Straram were a joint venture between Igor Stravinsky and Ernest Ansermet.  ;D
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on March 03, 2019, 12:58:44 PM
There are some quite well-known orchestras based in Bamberg, Germany (pop 77K) and Norrkoping, Sweden (pop 95K). Going up the scale a bit, also Saarbrucken, Germany and Bournemouth, England, both around 180K. I've got all of them in my collection. The Bournemouth orchestra is of course very well known and much recorded.
All great examples ! Bamberger SO has 195 recordings according to Arkivmusic, Norrkoping about 50, Lahti about 90, Saarbruckner about 60.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Archaic Torso of Apollo on March 03, 2019, 01:09:58 PM
All great examples ! Bamberger SO has 195 recordings according to Arkivmusic, Norrkoping about 50, Lahti about 90, Saarbruckner about 60.

Bournemouth SO kills them all with 227 entries, which doesn't surprise me. Although from what I've heard, they should really be called the "Southwest of England Orchestra" because they don't actually play most of their concerts in Bournemouth.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: geralmar on June 04, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrVgtfZC/R-6028993-1464722156-5186-jpeg.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Symphony Orchestra of the Southwest German Radio Baden Baden

I believe a variation on the name was noted earlier.  I've always liked this name because it sounds so imposing.  It doesn't hurt that it was once conducted by Jascha Horenstein.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on June 06, 2019, 09:03:42 PM
Symphony Orchestra of the Southwest German Radio Baden Baden

I believe a variation on the name was noted earlier.  I've always liked this name because it sounds so imposing.  It doesn't hurt that it was once conducted by Jascha Horenstein.
Nowadays it's the SWR (Südwest Rundfunk) Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden Und Freiburg, to be precise.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on June 07, 2019, 03:05:19 PM
Symphony Orchestra of the Southwest German Radio Baden Baden

I believe a variation on the name was noted earlier.  I've always liked this name because it sounds so imposing.  It doesn't hurt that it was once conducted by Jascha Horenstein.

Brings to mind a remark a a colleague. The Prestige of a state university is inversely related to how many directions appear in the title. University of Oklahoma, the flagship campus, University of Eastern Oklahoma, second tier. University of South-West Oklahoma, probably a place where you study to be a barber.  :)

Don't know if the rule applies to orchestras.
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: PerfectWagnerite on June 07, 2019, 06:15:58 PM
The Colorado Symphony.
(no orchestra)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on October 27, 2020, 07:19:24 AM
Baltic Sea Youth Philharmonic.

And here they are, clearly enjoying themselves, performing the first movement of Kalnin's Symphony No.4 'Rock Symphony':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI4G5J50nGg
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Christo on October 27, 2020, 07:24:59 AM
Baltic Sea Youth Philharmonic.

And here they are, clearly enjoying themselves, performing the first movement of Kalnin's Symphony No.4 'Rock Symphony':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI4G5J50nGg
Great performance - making it a sort of Bolero, must have been a great experience to perform it this way.  :)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on October 27, 2020, 12:02:31 PM
Great performance - making it a sort of Bolero, must have been a great experience to perform it this way.  :)
I totally agree, like Bolero and Tubular Bells (also the opening movement of Shostakovich's 'Leningrad Symphony' and the coda of Prokofiev's 5th Symphony came to mind). I've watched the video several times. The conductor was clearly enjoying himself as well.  :)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: pjme on October 27, 2020, 12:32:12 PM
Enjoyed it aswell. Many smiling faces in the orchestra.

Looked this afternoon for unknown orchestras - if possible with a good name...
No major finds. But I didn't know that Algeria , Morocco, Tunisia and Jakarta (Indonesia), Mumbai.... have (several) symphonic/philharmonic orchestras.
Examples:
https://youtu.be/QUHA0T3AId4
https://youtu.be/VM260H5Zo4M
https://youtu.be/utyBP36Pdl4
https://youtu.be/zNP4jCX2KgU
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: vandermolen on October 27, 2020, 12:47:07 PM
Here's the whole Baltic Sea Youth Philharmonic concert from Paris. The Gelgotas work 'Never Ignore the Cosmic Ocean' from one hour in is a hoot and well worth watching (it only lasts a few minutes):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLTXqyjwXDY&t=3909s

Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Sterna on October 28, 2020, 04:41:59 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrVgtfZC/R-6028993-1464722156-5186-jpeg.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Symphony Orchestra of the Southwest German Radio Baden Baden

I believe a variation on the name was noted earlier.  I've always liked this name because it sounds so imposing.  It doesn't hurt that it was once conducted by Jascha Horenstein.

In German, it was Sinfonieorchester des Südwestfunks, Baden-Baden.
Somehow I dig anything with 'Baden-Baden' in it. It just sounds very attractive. :)
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: ritter on October 28, 2020, 05:55:52 AM
In German, it was Sinfonieorchester des Südwestfunks, Baden-Baden.
Somehow I dig anything with 'Baden-Baden' in it. It just sounds very attractive. :)
Indeed. And Baden-Baden, the town itself,  is quite something... :)

Later on, the orchestra became SWR Sinfonieorchester Baden-Baden und Freiburg. When they merged it later on with the Stuttgart band, they dropped the town names altogether, and now it's simply SWR Symphonieorchester (not as catchy as the previous names, I'm afraid).

Welcome to the forum, by the way!
Title: Re: Your favorite orchestra names
Post by: Brian on October 28, 2020, 07:03:18 AM
I believe there's still a "Saarbrucken-Kaiserslautern" radio orchestra which might have the new claim to longest name?