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Title: Best classical music track in under 5 minutes.
Post by: Sungam on April 27, 2007, 07:26:48 AM
I have to write a paper about a classical piece that is under five minutes in time for a lame intro to music course.  I want to write about the most insane, off the wall, or just plain incredible, under-5-minute-classical-track.

One that I am considering:

"Dance of the Earth" from the "Rite of Spring"

Any suggestions would appreciated.
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Post by: Brewski on April 27, 2007, 07:29:58 AM
John Cage: 4'33"

 ;D

--Bruce
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Post by: PaulR on April 27, 2007, 07:32:29 AM
Shostakovich: 10th Symphony 2nd movement
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Post by: Sungam on April 27, 2007, 07:34:44 AM
The John Cage one is a very good suggestion.  The problem may be that it is too off the wall . . . the teacher can only handle so much.

Shostakovich: 10th Symphony 2nd movement eh?  Never heard it.  Let me go look for it . . .
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Post by: PerfectWagnerite on April 27, 2007, 07:35:10 AM
Berlioz: March to the Scaffold.
Wagner: Preludes to Das Rheingold and Die Walkure
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Post by: Sungam on April 27, 2007, 07:37:05 AM
What am I saying about Shostakovitch, I have that track and have listend to it.  Great suggestion.

Berlioz: March to the Scaffold.
Wagner: Preludes to Das Rheingold and Die Walkure

I'm pretty sure I haven't heard those.
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Post by: karlhenning on April 27, 2007, 07:42:31 AM
I have to write a paper about a classical piece that is under five minutes in time for a lame intro to music course.  I want to write about the most insane, off the wall, or just plain incredible, under-5-minute-classical-track.

One that I am considering:

"Dance of the Earth" from the "Rite of Spring"

Any suggestions would appreciated.

What you want, I think, is something which is not a section of a larger work, but something wild, and stand-alone (even though very brief).

I'll offer three suggestions:

Shostakovich
Preface to the Complete Edition of My Works and a Brief Reflection apropos of this Preface, Op. 123
[ Duration: 2'30 ]

Stravinsky
Babel
[ Duration: 5'00 ]

Nancarrow
┬┐Tango?
[ Duration: 2'50 ]
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Post by: Cato on April 27, 2007, 08:29:13 AM
I have to write a paper about a classical piece that is under five minutes in time for a lame intro to music course.  I want to write about the most insane, off the wall, or just plain incredible, under-5-minute-classical-track.

One that I am considering:

"Dance of the Earth" from the "Rite of Spring"

Any suggestions would appreciated.

Liadov: Master of the Musical Miniature!  Check out his great work:

Baba-Yaga Opus 56 clocks in usually under 4 minutes.
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Post by: karlhenning on April 27, 2007, 08:31:38 AM
A composer for our attention-span, Buffy!
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Post by: Drasko on April 27, 2007, 08:39:24 AM
Does it have to be orchestral piece?
If not any of the Chopin Mazurkas would do, for instance a-minor op.17 no.4.

Or Scriabin's Vers La Flamme
Video of Horowitz playing it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yj3rlrbKm0)
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Post by: Drasko on April 27, 2007, 08:41:39 AM
Or if has to be orchestral perhaps Part's Cantus in memory of Benjamin Britten
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Post by: Michel on April 27, 2007, 08:43:22 AM
Rach's prelude in C Sharp Minor!

Watch Gilels in action! Weird Tone in places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wddtne7KSs&mode=related&search=
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Post by: not edward on April 27, 2007, 08:45:49 AM
There's some great options here: some other possibilities:

How about the 4th piece (the funeral march) from Webern's op 6 pieces? Amazingly powerful.
Prokofiev's op 11 toccata and Mossolov's Zavod are short futurist classics.
Adams' Short Ride in a Fast Machine a good crowd pleaser.
Late Liszt could fit well here too: Nuages Gris; Unstern and Bagatelle sans tonalite show the total breakdown of the Romantic era.
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Post by: karlhenning on April 27, 2007, 08:47:44 AM
Edward, I honestly forgot the Opus 11 Toccata is that short; it feels like such a big piece!
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Post by: karlhenning on April 27, 2007, 08:48:18 AM
Aw, heck, toss in Zappa's "G-Spot Tornado"
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Post by: not edward on April 27, 2007, 08:49:15 AM
Aw, heck, toss in Zappa's "G-Spot Tornado"
Good one and a bundle of fun!
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Post by: Cato on April 27, 2007, 08:52:48 AM
There's some great options here: some other possibilities:

How about the 4th piece (the funeral march) from Webern's op 6 pieces? Amazingly powerful.
Prokofiev's op 11 toccata and Mossolov's Zavod are short futurist classics.
Adams' Short Ride in a Fast Machine a good crowd pleaser.
Late Liszt could fit well here too: Nuages Gris; Unstern and Bagatelle sans tonalite show the total breakdown of the Romantic era.

Anton Webern is a good choice!

There is also Prokofiev's cantata Seven, They Are Seven which comes in at 7 minutes (!?) on my imported CD, but recordings are hard to find.

Bernard Herrmann's overtures to either North by Northwest or Psycho or the Chase music from On Dangerous Ground all come in under 5 minutes.
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Post by: karlhenning on April 27, 2007, 08:53:30 AM
There is also Prokofiev's cantata Seven, They Are Seven which comes in at 7 minutes (!?) on my imported CD, but recordings are hard to find.

I thought of that one right away, too; but it is certainly outside the five-minute rule.
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Post by: Drasko on April 27, 2007, 09:18:24 AM
Sensemaya comes around 6 minutes in average but Stokowski brings it within 5 (though resulting in absurd performance)
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Post by: mahlertitan on April 27, 2007, 10:38:06 AM
one of the Prokofiev's symphonies. classical
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Post by: BachQ on April 27, 2007, 10:40:33 AM
Edward, I honestly forgot the Opus 11 Toccata is that short; it feels like such a big piece!

Prokofiev's d minor Toccata op. 11 was the first thing to come to mind . . . . . (I listened to it earlier today)
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Post by: Steve on April 27, 2007, 11:12:56 AM
Meditation from Thaiis, Jules Massonet
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Post by: Endymion on April 27, 2007, 12:07:44 PM
Chopin's Nocturne Op.9 No.2
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Post by: marvinbrown on April 27, 2007, 12:21:56 PM

   Easily each one of Bach's Goldberg Variations would qualify

   marvin 
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Post by: S709 on April 27, 2007, 01:11:20 PM
Alfred Schnittke's Minuet for violin, viola & cello. It is about 2 minutes and 30 seconds, and the conclusion (last 40 seconds or so) is amazing.

I strongly second the mention of Alexander Mosolov's "Zavod" (Iron Foundry). :)

There is also Arthur Honegger's Pacific 231 -- another short and exciting early modernist sort of piece.




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Post by: BachQ on April 27, 2007, 01:37:47 PM
the most insane, off the wall, or just plain incredible, under-5-minute-classical-track.

Prokofiev, The Enemy Of God And The Dance Of The Black Spirits from Schythian Suite . . . . . . .
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Post by: Gurn Blanston on April 27, 2007, 02:40:49 PM
"Le Ronde de Lutins" (The Dance of the Goblins, I believe) - Bazzini. Pretty super violin work!   :)

8)
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Post by: PaulR on April 27, 2007, 05:38:53 PM
I can't believe I forgot the last movement of the 1st Violin Concerto From Shostakovich-4 mins and 35 sec.
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Post by: Symphonien on April 27, 2007, 09:16:30 PM
Rach's prelude in C Sharp Minor!

Watch Gilels in action! Weird Tone in places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wddtne7KSs&mode=related&search=

Or his prelude in G Minor!

 Gilels again. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXU7I_Yyi2Y)
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Post by: val on April 27, 2007, 11:31:04 PM
ROUSSEL: 3rd movement of the 3rd Symphony. Takes only 2,30'.
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Post by: Siedler on April 28, 2007, 04:43:14 AM
John Cage: 4'33"

 ;D

--Bruce
Sorry, the question was for the best, not the worst.  :D
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Post by: Mayfielder on April 30, 2007, 04:03:33 PM
Overture to "Candide" by Bernstein.
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Post by: mahlertitan on April 30, 2007, 04:05:36 PM
marches
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Post by: Steve on April 30, 2007, 05:28:45 PM
Valse in E-Flat Major, Op. 83 - Durant  ;)
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Post by: hornteacher on April 30, 2007, 05:32:47 PM
John Cage: 4'33"

 ;D

--Bruce

Perfect, you could just turn in a blank sheet of paper and tell the teacher she has to imagine the essay in her mind.
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Post by: The Mad Hatter on April 30, 2007, 05:40:25 PM
Erlk├Ânig, by Schubert.

(It's been on my mind lately...)

But the way it's composed is just so tight - so much variation within the same overall soundworld.