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Title: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:20:08 PM
It seems time for a Beatles thread.

Thought we'd start with a fun poll.

Since so many of their albums are great, you have 3 votes, which need to be used the first time you vote.

I left out all of the compilation CD's, except for Past Masters, as they have many songs that aren't available on the albums.

Let's have some fun!! :)
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:25:02 PM

BTW, the order of the albums is order of release.

My three faves come right in a row:

1. Rubber Soul

2. Revolver

3. Sgt. Pepper

Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 05:25:50 PM
BTW, the order of the albums is order of release.

My three faves come right in a row:

1. Rubber Soul

2. Revolver

3. Sgt. Pepper



Me too.
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:26:32 PM
Me too.

 :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:28:37 PM
Any ideas for topics to discuss?

Favorite Beatle? Why?

Ever get to see them in concert?

Got any rare stuff?

Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:31:05 PM
BTW, the order of the albums is order of release.

My three faves come right in a row:

1. Rubber Soul

2. Revolver

3. Sgt. Pepper

Wow, are you sure we're not related or something?  You pegged my three favorites as well.  Such a creative period in their history and the arguements hadn't started yet.  Wonderful albums.  My favorite tracks off those albums are: Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Taxman, E. Rigby, Lucy in the Sky, Within You Without You, Day in the Life (well, pretty much everything).
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 01, 2007, 05:33:12 PM
My votes went to Hard Day's Night, White Album and Sgt. Pepper.
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:35:17 PM
Wow, are you sure we're not related or something?  You pegged my three favorites as well.  Such a creative period in their history and the arguements hadn't started yet.  Wonderful albums.  My favorite tracks off those albums are: Norwegian Wood, Nowhere Man, Taxman, E. Rigby, Lucy in the Sky, Within You Without You, Day in the Life (well, pretty much everything).

 ;D

Imagine releasing three albums in a row without a dud in the bunch.  :o 

I doubt if that's ever been equalled.

Personally, I think that when CD's came out, Rubber Soul and Revolver should have been released on the same CD. They are certainly short enough.

If forced to pick just one, I would say Revolver without hesitation. Simply unbelievable!  :) 
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:36:00 PM
My votes went to Hard Day's Night, White Album and Sgt. Pepper.

Those three would probably follow mine.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:36:28 PM
Ever get to see them in concert?

I saw Paul live in 1992 when he came to Charlotte.  The concert was broadcast nationally on TV and was very good.  He played a mix of Beatles, Wings, and new songs from the then just released "Off the Ground" Album.  He played over two hours plus an encore with a guitar duel during "Sgt Pepper" and a sing along with "Hey Jude".  Great night.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:38:18 PM
I saw Paul in 1992 when he came to Charlotte.  The concert was broadcast nationally on TV and was very good.  He played a mix of Beatles, Wings, and new songs from the then just released "Off the Ground" Album.  He played over two hours plus an encore with a guitar duel during "Sgt Pepper" and a sing along with "Hey Jude".  Great night.

I heard him live on TV in the past few years and it sure sounds like his voice is dropping off, so you were lucky to hear him when you did.

I still love that live version of "Maybe I'm Amazed." Did he do that one?
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:40:39 PM
Personally, I think that when CD's came out, Rubber Soul and Revolver should have been released on the same CD.

Interestingly, George Harrison said sort of the same thing in one of his interviews.  He believed that the two albums could be viewed as Volume 1 and Volume 2.
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:42:23 PM
Interestingly, George Harrison said sort of the same thing in one of his interviews.  He believed that the two albums could be viewed as Volume 1 and Volume 2.

That's because I am The Taxman George Harrison.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:45:20 PM
I heard him live on TV in the past few years and it sure sounds like his voice is dropping off, so you were lucky to hear him when you did.

I still love that live version of "Maybe I'm Amazed." Did he do that one?


Yes, and his voice was still in good shape then, although I noticed he played "Yesterday" in F rather than the original G.  I respect Sir Paul greatly, but I think after Flaming Pie (which was a fantastic album) his writing hasn't been quite as good.  But hey, he's only been churning out hits for 40 years!
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:46:25 PM
That's because I am The Taxman George Harrison.  ;D

I guess that makes me the Walrus!  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:46:39 PM
Yes, and his voice was still in good shape then, although I noticed he played "Yesterday" in F rather than the original G.  I respect Sir Paul greatly, but I think after Flaming Pie (which was a fantastic album) his writing hasn't been quite as good.  But hey, he's only been churning out hits for 40 years!

Indeed. How was that Classical CD he put out?
Title: Re: The Beatles's Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:50:31 PM
I guess that makes me the Walrus!  ;D

Goo goo goo joob!!  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:52:41 PM
Indeed. How was that Classical CD he put out?

He actually put out two.  "Standing Stone" and the "Liverpool Oratorio".  To be honest, for someone who spent his life writing popular music by ear and had no formal musical training, its not half bad.  The form is more free than most "classical" pieces, but he handles orchestraion well and (as you would expect from Paul) has some of the prettiest melodies you can imagine.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 01, 2007, 05:55:30 PM
Oh jeez, I just saw the time.  I've got to teach tomorrow.  Got to get to bed.  Darn career gets in the way of a good online conversation.   :P

Later.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:56:31 PM
Oh jeez, I just saw the time.  I've got to teach tomorrow.  Got to get to bed.  Darn career gets in the way of a good online conversation.   :P

Later.

I'll be here.

Nice chatting!

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 05:57:46 PM
I first heard the American versions of my picks, by the way. The UK albums are a bit different before Sgt. Pepper's. But you knew that.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 05:58:43 PM
I took a course on college on the Beatles.

It was great fun and I learned a lot about the Beatles.

We used this book (http://www.amazon.com/Tell-Me-Why-Beatles-Sixties/dp/0306811200/ref=sr_1_1/104-2949723-2736732?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178074466&sr=8-1) as a text for the course. I strongly recommend it, as it discusses the music without going into music theory. Tons of great trivia.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:10:09 PM
I first heard the American versions of my picks, by the way. The UK albums are a bit different before Sgt. Pepper's. But you knew that.

I did know that.

Remind me the difference?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 06:12:06 PM
I did know that.

Remind me the difference?

America butchered the UK albums in order to make more albums--and more money.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:14:28 PM
America butchered the UK albums in order to make more albums--and more money.

Right, I've heard that in order to have all of the Beatles output, one need only get all of the UK versions of the albums AND Past masters one and two.

Volume two is excellent IMO, with the Electric version of Revolution, Hey Jude and Inner Light.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 01, 2007, 06:16:34 PM
America butchered the UK albums in order to make more albums--and more money.

I believe that it's the source of inspiration for this cover:

(http://www.unidiversal.com/Image_Beatles_Butcher_Album_Cover_001f.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 01, 2007, 06:17:23 PM
I believe that it's the source of inspiration for this cover:

(http://www.unidiversal.com/Image_Beatles_Butcher_Album_Cover_001f.jpg)

Yep.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on May 01, 2007, 07:15:14 PM
A Hard Day's Night
Revolver
Magical Mystery Tour

and Please Please Me just losing by a nose to A Hard Day's Night.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: The Mad Hatter on May 01, 2007, 08:05:39 PM
My three favourite are Abbey Road, the White Album and Revolver. In no particular order...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sunnyside_up on May 02, 2007, 12:32:34 AM
My top two have always been Rubber Soul and Revolver, but 3 is tricky, I went for Past Masters 2 since it lines up a few of my favourite Beatles tunes all on one CD.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 02, 2007, 05:40:32 PM
Goodness! What a toughy...

Probably Abbey Road for the top spot. It just doesn't get any better than the "side two" medley (Here Comes The Sun and beyond).

White Album next.

Third is up in the air...Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, Magical Mystery Tour, and Past Masters Vol. 2 each have something to say (as it were) although I might lean slightly towards Sgt. Peppers on the strength of Lennon's ballads (Lucy In The Sky and Day In The Life).

Although Revolver does contain my favorite Beatles tune, Eleanor Rigby, with Rubber Soul containing my second and third favorite Beatles tunes, Norwegian Wood, and Nowhere Man.

Then there's Past Masters Vol. 2 with all those spectacular singles: Hey Jude, Revolution, Lady Madonna, etc... And Magical Mystery Tour with Strawberry Fields, Fool On The Hill, and I Am The Walrus.

So it's a toss up. Probably Sgt. Peppers since, well, the music's just so out of this world colorful!


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 02, 2007, 06:05:17 PM
Goodness! What a toughy...



Yeah, that's why I gave three choices.  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 02, 2007, 07:30:49 PM
Time was a couple decades ago when Beatlemania caught me firm in its clutches. Couldn't get enough of the Fab Fo...you know. ;)

Caught the collecting bug, too. Managed to pick up some fine collectable gems on LP, such as an Apple label White Album on white vinyl (very cool), Anthology 1962-66 on red vinyl (this acquisition actually predated my Beatlemania phase but was glad to have it!), several Apple label records in mint condition, and this Strawberry Fields bootleg. (http://rateyourmusic.com/release/unauth/the_beatles/strawberry_fields_forever/)

Nothing spectacular on this bootleg but it does contain some interesting outtakes from various recording sessions, as well as a live Hey Jude.

Anyway, I made the mistake of selling the colored vinyl gems - as well as all the other records, actually! - but held on to this bootleg. It's since earned a hallowed position in my vinyl collection - and is staying put!


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Danny on May 02, 2007, 09:37:50 PM
Golden slumbers fill your eyes /  Smiles aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawake you when you rise!

 ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sunnyside_up on May 03, 2007, 12:31:40 AM
George, I highly recommend this book if you haven't already read it - full of insights and interesting bits of info on each and every Beatles song.

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51HD94QKH2L._AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Hector on May 03, 2007, 03:14:43 AM


They were so advanced and hearing them in the context of a lot of the garbage that passes as popular music nowadays they sound even better.

Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road and a toss up between the White Album and Let it Be, both seriously flawed, I opted for the latter.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 09:29:43 AM
Never liked the music, cannot stand it to be honest. :P
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 09:31:24 AM
Never liked the music, cannot stand it to be honest. :P

Blasphemy!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 09:37:53 AM
I 'bumped' into Ringo on the Kings Road in Chelsea in 2000.

Recognised him immediately and stalked him down the road for a while, convinced I was tracking George Harrison! (Although as I approached him, realised who he was).

He stopped outside an antiques shop, at which I decided to take my chance and tap him on the shoulder. He whirled 'round and I tentively asked for his autograph, to which he exclaimed (In his nasaly Scouse drawl):

'Sorry mate, it's my day off'!!!
 ;D

I've 'met' one of the Fab Four!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
And for the record:

1. Revolver
2. Rubber Soul
3. White Album

 :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 09:41:31 AM
Blasphemy!

Well really! ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 09:42:51 AM
I 'bumped' into Ringo on the Kings Road in Chelsea in 2000.

Recognised him immediately and stalked him down the road for a while, convinced I was tracking George Harrison! (Although as I approached him, realised who he was).

He stopped outside an antiques shop, at which I decided to take my chance and tap him on the shoulder. He whirled 'round and I tentively asked for his autograph, to which he exclaimed (In his nasaly Scouse drawl):

'Sorry mate, it's my day off'!!!
 ;D

I've 'met' one of the Fab Four!

You got snubbed by the least talented one!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 10:09:41 AM
I 'bumped' into Ringo on the Kings Road in Chelsea in 2000.

Recognised him immediately and stalked him down the road for a while, convinced I was tracking George Harrison! (Although as I approached him, realised who he was).

He stopped outside an antiques shop, at which I decided to take my chance and tap him on the shoulder. He whirled 'round and I tentively asked for his autograph, to which he exclaimed (In his nasaly Scouse drawl):

'Sorry mate, it's my day off'!!!
 ;D

I've 'met' one of the Fab Four!

Great story!  :)

And for the record:

1. Revolver
2. Rubber Soul
3. White Album

 :)

Yeah, for me it was either the White Album or Sgt. Pepper as #3. I picked Sgt. Pepper 'cause I listen to it more. I think I like (and admire) the White album more though. (I should've done 4 guesses :-\)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 10:10:41 AM
Blasphemy!

Harry thinks Paul is a soprano.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Harry on May 03, 2007, 10:13:31 AM
Harry thinks Paul is a soprano.  ;D

Oke floor again George! ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on May 03, 2007, 10:27:23 AM
Rubber Soul is definitely my favorite album (of all time, by anybody), followed closely by Revolver -- #3 is a toughie, went with the White Album but I could change my mind tomorrow.  I definitely think 1966 was their best period -- I have a mix CD with all of Rubber Soul intermixed with some other singles and songs from Help! that were recorded at around the same time -- I probably play it more than any other pop CD in my collection.

I've been a huge Beatles fan my whole life.  I was heavily into it when I was in high school and college, had piles of bootlegs and the whole bit.  I've scaled back quite a bit in recent years, but I still listen to them regularly, and the first thing I did when I got my new PALM last week was import their whole catalog on MP3 ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 10:28:40 AM
Oke floor again George! ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Danny on May 03, 2007, 10:37:00 AM
1) Abbey Road
2) Sgt. Pepper
3) A Hard Day's Night
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 10:44:54 AM
Great story!  :)

Yeah, for me it was either the White Album or Sgt. Pepper as #3. I picked Sgt. Pepper 'cause I listen to it more. I think I like (and admire) the White album more though. (I should've done 4 guesses :-\)

Cheers dude  :)

For a fourth, I'ld have gone for either Abbey Road or Let it be (naked version)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 03, 2007, 10:48:46 AM
Cheers dude  :)

For a fourth, I'ld have gone for either Abbey Road or Let it be (naked version)

Yes, I much prefer the Naked version. Esp. "The long and winding road"   :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: knight66 on May 03, 2007, 10:56:45 AM

I've been a huge Beatles fan my whole life. 

I love this idea, springing forth from the womb, claiming, "Goo goo goo joob...where is my revolver???" Just like St Nicholas.

The very first LP I ever bought with birthday money was 'A hard Day's Night'.

Mike
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 11:00:18 AM
Yes, I much prefer the Naked version. Esp. "The long and winding road"   :)

Although would add that I've probably played 'Red' and 'Blue' much more than the others. Still find Sgt. Pepper overrated, but consider 'A day in the life' to be one of the greatest songs ever written...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 03, 2007, 11:08:29 AM
Although would add that I've probably played 'Red' and 'Blue' much more than the others. Still find Sgt. Pepper overrated, but consider 'A day in the life' to be one of the greatest songs ever written...

Sgt. Pepper's is overrated, musically speaking. But the concept was new at the time which gives it historical cred.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 03, 2007, 11:15:12 AM
Sgt. Pepper's is overrated, musically speaking. But the concept was new at the time which gives it historical cred.

Yeah, I think kudos is deserved for conceptualisation, but as you say (and for me) just doesn't quite work as well musically. However, did you ever hear the 'Stones musical retort? It's bloody awful:

(http://longguy.20fr.com/images/rolling_satanic_cov.jpg)

Not sure I agree with the sentiment expressed here though:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/rolling_stones.htm

 ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: helios on May 07, 2007, 09:11:38 AM
Good thread George.

My ranking would probably be:
1.  Abbey Road
2.  The Beatles
3.  Revolver

My favourite songs are largely not off Abbey Road (with the exception of Something), but that Side 2 medley is musical bliss - not much else in all of music comes close IMO.

The Beatles is just so inconsistent.  I adore so many of the songs (particularly Dear Prudence & Helter Skelter), but there's a lot of rubbish in there as well.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 09:21:01 AM
Good thread George.

My ranking would probably be:
1.  Abbey Road
2.  The Beatles
3.  Revolver

My favourite songs are largely not off Abbey Road (with the exception of Something), but that Side 2 medley is musical bliss - not much else in all of music comes close IMO.

Apparently the story behind that is that they had a bunch of short bits that weren't actually full songs. I think it was Billy Preston who suggested they make them into a medley. 

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The Beatles is just so inconsistent.  I adore so many of the songs (particularly Dear Prudence & Helter Skelter), but there's a lot of rubbish in there as well.

I agree, at least in that I either love or hate their songs. Most I love, though.

Nice avatar BTW!  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: orbital on May 07, 2007, 09:32:46 AM
Never liked the music, cannot stand it to be honest. :P
:D although I can stand it to a degree, what I don't understand is the huge fuss. They may have been (very) influential in the development of popular music in general, but I don't see much in their music that is as revolutionary as say Led Zeppelin. What I hear in them more than anything else in is some catchy tunes. It is fair for me  to say that I respect them (Lennon in particular) for what they stood for more than for what they achieved in their music  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: CS on May 07, 2007, 09:43:37 AM
I chose the White Album, Revolver, and Abbey Road. The White Album has always been my favorite, containing maybe my favorite Beatles song "Happiness is a Warm Gun," plus so many others (Dear Prudence, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, I'm So Tired, Julia, Cry Baby Cry). The album is, I think, their most diverse (in terms of musical styles and "themes"): Helter Skelter (hard rock), Honey Pie ("music-hall" parody/homage), Blackbird, etc. (folk), Yer Blues, etc. (blues), and so on. And dare I say it may be their most experimental, as evidenced not only by the branching out into several different styles, but especially by "Revolution 9" with its collage of sounds and instances of musique concrète.

I should note that I'm much more of a Lennon fan than a McCartney fan (and I love Harrison despite his smaller output).

--CS
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 09:58:43 AM
:D although I can stand it to a degree, what I don't understand is the huge fuss. They may have been (very) influential in the development of popular music in general, but I don't see much in their music that is as revolutionary as say Led Zeppelin. What I hear in them more than anything else in is some catchy tunes. It is fair for me  to say that I respect them (Lennon in particular) for what they stood for more than for what they achieved in their music  :-[ :-[ :-[

There was a time when I would absolutely agree with you. These days, I love the Beatles for what they are, a bunch of regular guys who wrote regular tunes. I also love that many of these tunes are about love and other positive topics. their sense of humor is great, esp on songs like "Run For Your Life."
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 07, 2007, 11:11:11 AM
This is the most sadistic poll ever. Only three choices? George, you bastard!

Past Masters Vol.1 (because I need those early singles)

Rubber Soul (because it's the best Beatles' album)

Magical Mystery Tour (because it's the most psychedelic Beatles' album)

Sarge



Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 11:19:28 AM
This is the most sadistic poll ever. Only three choices? George, you bastard!

 >:D

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Magical Mystery Tour (because it's the most psychedelic Beatles' album)

I like this one, too. I love singing it especially.  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 11:20:11 AM
:D although I can stand it to a degree, what I don't understand is the huge fuss.

Well, you would have had to be around back then to get the full impact of the group.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on May 07, 2007, 11:24:23 AM
I had the good fortune to hear The Beatles twice live (actually all you heard was screaming) as my mum took me to see them (London Paladium and Wembley (or Hammersmith). My mum took me to see The Monkees too (don't laugh) all you heard was screaming also. I also went to the premieres of "Hard Day's Night" and "Yellow Submarine" (Ringo refused to sign my autograph book)

Now I listen to Miaskovsky Bax and Bantock  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: karlhenning on May 07, 2007, 11:28:14 AM
When I went to Miaskovsky Bax and Bantock, all you heard was screaming  8)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 11:31:11 AM
Well, you would have had to be around back then to get the full impact of the group.

Now that would have been nice.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
Now that would have been nice.

Yes, very nice.  The only negative is that I'm now close to 60.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 11:43:01 AM
Yes, very nice.  The only negative is that I'm now close to 60.

We will still need you when you're 64.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sonic1 on May 07, 2007, 11:46:09 AM
I owe Beatles "revolver" for getting me into music at all, since my parents and everyone around me lacked any interest in music. Revolver was given to me by a neighbor along with an 8-track of Kiss Destroyer, and a few other things.

My favs are white album, sgt. peppers, and magical mystery tour, though it is always hard to decide.

I like all their albums, old stuff and new.

and I also love the stones and the who, though they say your personality always aligns with one or the other (or the other).
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 11:46:19 AM
We will still need you when you're 64.

Good to hear, although I have to say that I never thought well of the "64" song - too sappy.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 11:48:12 AM
Good to hear, although I have to say that I never thought well of the "64" song - too sappy.

Not a Paul person?

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: sonic1 on May 07, 2007, 11:49:23 AM
I'm an ono person myself.  >:D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 07, 2007, 11:50:56 AM
I also went to the premieres of "Hard Day's Night" and "Yellow Submarine" (Ringo refused to sign my autograph book)

We now have two anecdotes in which Ringo refused to sign his name. Can we surmise anything from this? Maybe he couldn't write! ;D

Sarge
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 11:51:52 AM
Not a Paul person?



That's on target.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 07, 2007, 11:57:03 AM

The two DVD set of "Hard Day's Night" is on sale at Virgin Megastore for $10.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonGodders on May 07, 2007, 12:03:34 PM
The Beatles is just so inconsistent.  I adore so many of the songs (particularly Dear Prudence & Helter Skelter), but there's a lot of rubbish in there as well.

I love Helter Skelter. There's a cover of it on U2's Rattle and Hum, where Bono (IIRC) introduces it as 'A song Charles Manson stole from the Beatles, we're stealing it back'.

Whats that all about then?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: orbital on May 07, 2007, 12:09:14 PM
Well, you would have had to be around back then to get the full impact of the group.
Sure, but if they are still as highly regarded today, then there must be something that I am missing there. I have no doubts about their cultural influence -which is almost a quantifiable fact, but the music that they have recorded.
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Don on May 07, 2007, 12:10:27 PM
Sure, but if they are still as highly regarded today, then there must be something that I am missing there. I have no doubts about their cultural influence -which is almost a quantifiable fact, but the music that they have recorded.
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?

Beats me.  I haven't followed rock music since the late 1970's.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: bwv 1080 on May 07, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
Sure, but if they are still as highly regarded today, then there must be something that I am missing there. I have no doubts about their cultural influence -which is almost a quantifiable fact, but the music that they have recorded.
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?

There is always Oasis
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 07, 2007, 04:14:50 PM
The reason I gave Led Zeppelin as an example is, today we still have hords of bands trying (but failing) to be Led Zeppelin. Can we say the same thing about the Beatles?

Trying - and failing - to be Led Zepplin is telling in itself.

With the Beatles (no pun...) it makes no sense to even try.



Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: helios on May 08, 2007, 12:06:10 AM
Apparently the story behind that is that they had a bunch of short bits that weren't actually full songs. I think it was Billy Preston who suggested they make them into a medley. 

Nice avatar BTW!  :D

Yeah.. I don't think some of those songs in the medley could really be strung out another minute or so - perfect as they are.

I thought you'd like the avatar.  ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: helios on May 08, 2007, 12:08:30 AM
I should note that I'm much more of a Lennon fan than a McCartney fan (and I love Harrison despite his smaller output).

Yes, completely agree.  I guess it's not surprising that our 3 favourite albums are the same.

All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: The Mad Hatter on May 08, 2007, 02:52:49 AM
Yes, completely agree.  I guess it's not surprising that our 3 favourite albums are the same.

All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.

Nearly all of my favourite Beatles songs are his. He's got such a small catalogue compared to the other two, but to the best of my knowledge, he didn't write a single bad song. (as I only own five 'proper' Beatles albums and 1, I'm not certain about this...)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on May 08, 2007, 04:01:05 AM
All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.

Nearly all of my favourite Beatles songs are his. He's got such a small catalogue compared to the other two, but to the best of my knowledge, he didn't write a single bad song.

My avatar is blushing.  8)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: orbital on May 08, 2007, 05:00:48 AM
Trying - and failing - to be Led Zepplin is telling in itself.

With the Beatles (no pun...) it makes no sense to even try.

I know. They already wrote and recorded all the catchy tunes that were still available >:D >:D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on May 08, 2007, 02:47:45 PM
All things must pass by Harrison is very underrated.

I'll contend that George's final album "Brainwashed" is hugely underrated.  It was 95% finished at the time of his death and completed by his son and producer Jeff Lynne (formally of the ELO).  It is an album of meaningful music, lovely melodies, some incredible slide guitar playing, and a spiritual message not found in music today.  Fantastic.

http://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-George-Harrison/dp/B00006LSM3/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-4456605-3214401?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178668035&sr=8-2
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 08, 2007, 08:30:44 PM
Do not believe it is complete....George, or someone else in the know, maybe you could finish it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6ZcfJspcI&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-SlkUgCRg&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINfAYiWVhU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKbPSRyDo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd8JYA4MvlQ&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 08, 2007, 08:53:30 PM
And why not?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPp8nieMHmk&mode=related&search=

and saw this one "live" on tv as a kid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2TGWDZTrj0
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: hornteacher on June 09, 2007, 03:46:59 AM
Or the "famous" AL TV interview:   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_GxCpUXWY&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 04:19:14 AM
Do not believe it is complete....George, or someone else in the know, maybe you could finish it off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea6ZcfJspcI&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-SlkUgCRg&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xINfAYiWVhU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKbPSRyDo8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd8JYA4MvlQ&mode=related&search=




Wow!  :o

If it's incomplete, I am sure that it's complete on the "Let it Be" movie. I don't have it.  :( That's one worth seeking out. I think I saw it once.

I can also check later and see how much of it is on The Beatles Anthology DVD. Looks like there's a track for it, but don't have the time right now. Later today, OK?  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 04:22:37 AM

Wow!  :o

If it's incomplete, I am sure that it's complete on the "Let it Be" movie. I don't have it.  :( That's one worth seeking out. I think I saw it once.

I can also check later and see how much of it is on The Beatles Anthology DVD. Looks like there's a track for it, but don't have the time right now. Later today, OK?  :)

I guess they played some of the songs on the roof multiple times....does this sound correct?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 04:24:14 AM
I guess they played some of the songs on the roof multiple times....does this sound correct?

I wouldn't be surprised, but unfortunately, I know little about that show. I don't think it was released apart from the Movie and whatever happens to be on the Anthology.   
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 04:25:44 AM
I wouldn't be surprised, but unfortunately, I know little about that show. I don't think it was released apart from the Movie and whatever happens to be on the Anthology.   

The Beatles played five songs during the rooftop performance: "Get Back" (three times), "Don't Let Me Down" (twice), "I've Got a Feeling" (twice), "One After 909", and "Dig a Pony". (The Beatles also played a brief version of the British national anthem, "God Save the Queen" and a brief rehersal of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" while second engineer Alan Parsons was changing tapes.)[3]

After the final song, McCartney is heard to say, "Thanks, Mo!" acknowledging the enthusiastic applause and cheering from Maureen Starkey. Then Lennon closes with the well-known remark, "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition!"[3] This exchange was spliced on to the end of the Let It Be album.

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 04:56:57 AM
There is this for track listings:

(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_a.jpg)(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 04:58:31 AM
The Beatles played five songs during the rooftop performance: "Get Back" (three times), "Don't Let Me Down" (twice), "I've Got a Feeling" (twice), "One After 909", and "Dig a Pony". (The Beatles also played a brief version of the British national anthem, "God Save the Queen" and a brief rehersal of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" while second engineer Alan Parsons was changing tapes.)[3]

After the final song, McCartney is heard to say, "Thanks, Mo!" acknowledging the enthusiastic applause and cheering from Maureen Starkey. Then Lennon closes with the well-known remark, "I'd like to say 'thank you' on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition!"[3] This exchange was spliced on to the end of the Let It Be album.



Yeah, I thought that last line was classic!  8)

I really dunno where you'll find the complete tapes for that. Even the movie (OOP?) surely didn't have multiple takes of each song.  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 04:59:40 AM
There is this for track listings:

(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_a.jpg)(http://www.jpgr.co.uk/rt1_b.jpg)


hey, you've been holding out, Bill!  ;D

I may be able to find that in NYC, or do you already have it?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:00:28 AM
hey, you've been holding out, Bill!  ;D

I may be able to find that in NYC, or do you already have it?

Never have seen it....must be a bootleg, no?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 05:01:30 AM
Never have seen it....must be a bootleg, no?

Indeed. There are bootlegs aplenty in NYC though.  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 09, 2007, 05:08:59 AM
Indeed. There are bootlegs aplenty in NYC though.  :D

Maybe down the Abbey road Paul will get behind an official release that this concert deserves with the proper packaging etc.  One can only hope. :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 09, 2007, 05:11:10 AM
Maybe down the Abbey road Paul will get behind an official release that this concert deserves with the proper packaging etc.  One can only hope. :)

I can ask around the village and see if there is a bootleg that comes form the master tapes.

If so, then I'll see if there's any copies floating around.

Sounds like the beginnings of a Magical Mystery Tour...roll up!!!!  $:)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Szykneij on June 09, 2007, 04:28:52 PM
Indeed. There are bootlegs aplenty in NYC though.  :D

Yup, my 13-year old son got himself a nice Rolex for $25 when we visited last summer  ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Szykneij on June 09, 2007, 04:40:14 PM
I think this album is underrated. It was the first Beatles album I bought as a kid

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/d0/a5/d7f31363ada0834e87640110._AA240_.L.jpg)

although these two were given to me by a cool aunt:

(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DTMWWJPKL._AA240_.jpg)(http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/62/e0/3900828fd7a0be90c8640110._AA240_.L.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Poetdante on June 10, 2007, 02:35:18 AM
I chose:

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The White Album
Abbey Road

I always feel happy when I listen "Sgt. Pepper's~", especially track 1~3.

Plus,  :)
My favorite single is "Strawberry Fields Forever." WOW!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on June 10, 2007, 02:20:28 PM
Never have seen it....must be a bootleg, no?

It's certainly a bootleg.  I have it, though on a different bootleg.  You can shoot me a PM if you're desperate -- I could send you an MP3 or something...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 10, 2007, 02:25:09 PM
I heard that the Let it Be movie should be re-released on DVD in the near future.  :D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 17, 2007, 04:10:38 AM
So, anyone of you one the bidders on this?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-ULTRA-RARE-UK-STEREO-WHITE-ALBUM-0000006_W0QQitemZ270128943287QQihZ017QQcategoryZ432QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: George on June 17, 2007, 04:14:53 AM
So, anyone of you one the bidders on this?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-ULTRA-RARE-UK-STEREO-WHITE-ALBUM-0000006_W0QQitemZ270128943287QQihZ017QQcategoryZ432QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 :o :o

Not me. Too rich for my blood.  ;D
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Dr. Dread on April 18, 2009, 08:14:25 AM
Hey maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan,

Take your copy of Rubber Soul, hold it upside down in the mirror.

It says, "Road Abbey".

(sorta)   8)   ;D   :o
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on June 21, 2009, 11:10:50 AM
Just picked this up today.  I believe this completes my Beatles UK cd run, unless there is a cd release of the Hollywood Bowl concert out there?  

(http://www.geocities.com/shnava_the_beatle/past_masters_2.jpg)

Is there a ready checklist available to cross my run with?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on June 21, 2009, 11:20:37 AM
Just selected my favs:
Rubber Soul, Revolver and The Beatles (AKA White Album).
But all the others are outstanding, too!


Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on June 21, 2009, 02:45:07 PM
1 White Album

2 Sergeant Pepper

3 Magical Mystery Tour
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Bogey on August 24, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
Heading to this show tonight:

http://1964site.com/#/home/

Will report back.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on August 09, 2019, 08:50:26 AM
'It was fifty years ago today!'
Well, yesterday actually since the iconic photo of The Beatles on the Abbey Road crossing was taken.
Many people recreated the scene on the crossing yesterday which is preserved as a piece of national heritage.
I have a happy memory of coming home from school, when the Abbey Road album came out in 1969, to find that my mother had bought it for me and had put it on my bed, even though it wasn't my birthday or Christmas:
(http://)

Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 09, 2019, 06:19:52 PM
'It was fifty years ago today!'
Well, yesterday actually since the iconic photo of The Beatles on the Abbey Road crossing was taken.
Many people recreated the scene on the crossing yesterday which is preserved as a piece of national heritage.
I have a happy memory of coming home from school, when the Abbey Road album came out in 1969, to find that my mother had bought it for me a had put it on my bed, even though it wasn't my birthday or Christmas:
(http://)



One sweet dream!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on August 09, 2019, 11:07:44 PM
One sweet dream!

Indeed Karl. Funny how that memory has always stayed with me. I think that Abbey Road is one of their best albums.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on August 10, 2019, 12:44:03 AM
Of the three listed: 1.White Album 2.Sgt Pepper 3.Hard Day's Night

not listed is the immediate post-breakup singles and b-sides round up Hey Jude album which I think of as being as canonical as the others, and the songs play really nicely in that track order

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/Heyjudealbum.jpg/220px-Heyjudealbum.jpg)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on August 11, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
Of the three listed: 1.White Album 2.Sgt Pepper 3.Hard Day's Night

not listed is the immediate post-breakup singles and b-sides round up Hey Jude album which I think of as being as canonical as the others, and the songs play really nicely in that track order

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/Heyjudealbum.jpg/220px-Heyjudealbum.jpg)

These songs can be found mostly on the two Past Master albums.

Albums like 'Introducing The Beatles', 'Meet The Beatles' 'Second Album', 'Something New', 'Beatles VI', 'Yesterday And Today' and 'Hey Jude', to name but a few, were made for the USA market, by VeeJay and Capitol.
It's confusing with those split markets, because, for instance, the USA albums 'Help!' and 'Rubber Soul' don't have the same songs as the UK versions.

Nowadays the UK (Parlophone) titles, plus the Past Masters volumes, are regularly used as being the 'genuine' Beatles albums.

And there's a shitload of extras of course, from the Anthology trilogy to all kinds of bootlegs.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on August 11, 2019, 10:48:20 AM
'It was fifty years ago today!'
Well, yesterday actually since the iconic photo of The Beatles on the Abbey Road crossing was taken.
Many people recreated the scene on the crossing yesterday which is preserved as a piece of national heritage.
I have a happy memory of coming home from school, when the Abbey Road album came out in 1969, to find that my mother had bought it for me and had put it on my bed, even though it wasn't my birthday or Christmas:
(http://)

That's a great story. Love your mum. :)

Thanks to the update to the thread I'm listening to the Fab Four this evening... yet NOT the celebrated Abbey Road, but Beatles For Sale. One of their weakest IMHO (too many less-inspired cover songs), but weakest Beatles is still 8/10.
'I'm A Loser', 'Baby's In Black', 'Every Little Thing' and 'I Don't Want To Spoil The Party' are examples of great songs that I can listen to again and again.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on August 11, 2019, 10:10:38 PM
That's a great story. Love your mum. :)

Thanks to the update to the thread I'm listening to the Fab Four this evening... yet NOT the celebrated Abbey Road, but Beatles For Sale. One of their weakest IMHO (too many less-inspired cover songs), but weakest Beatles is still 8/10.
'I'm A Loser', 'Baby's In Black', 'Every Little Thing' and 'I Don't Want To Spoil The Party' are examples of great songs that I can listen to again and again.

Thank you! That was very sweet of my mum and the fact that I still remember it fifty years later shows how much it meant to me. I can still remember the joy of seeing the LP, unexpectedly, on my bed! Yes, this thread was dormant since 2012. We are still waiting for Bogey to report back on the 1964 Tribute Concert.  8)

I always liked 'Beatles for Sale'. I think I lent the LP to someone many decades ago and never got it back.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on August 29, 2019, 10:45:49 AM
Today I've been revisiting the White Album 50th Remixes... while I really enjoyed the Sgt. Pepper remixes from a couple years ago, I'm still undecided on the White Album.  There are some tracks where the improvement is clear and obvious, such as "Long, Long, Long," which sounds absolutely amazing on this, so much clearer and more focused.  And yet in other places the new mix seems to bring out details just for the sake bringing them out.  Drums and bass are more prominent pretty much throughout, which greatly benefits the rockers.

George Martin once famously said that the existing double album was too unfocused, and would have been much improved if they'd pared it down to a single album.  In theory I kind of agree with him; but like many other Beatle-nerds I keep trying to come up with a 14 track, 7 tracks per side version that truly satisfies.  I've had a playlist on my phone for years, and every time I put it on I end up moving things around, and adding or removing a song or two.

My current list (which may change by supper time):

Side 1:

Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence (the opening 1-2 punch is so good, I can't mess with it)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Mother Nature's Son
Cry Baby Cry
Blackbird
I'm So Tired

Side 2

Birthday
Don't Pass Me By (gotta have a Ringo song)
Revolution 1
Long, Long, Long
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Julia

I'm still not happy with it, though, not least because there are a couple of key songs missing (looking at you, Glass Onion).  Maybe I need to cheat and do 8 songs per side for a total of 16 -- which would have still fit comfortably on an LP, I think....  or I could pull in the Revolution/Hey Jude single.... sigh.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on September 01, 2019, 12:23:35 AM
Today I've been revisiting the White Album 50th Remixes... while I really enjoyed the Sgt. Pepper remixes from a couple years ago, I'm still undecided on the White Album.  There are some tracks where the improvement is clear and obvious, such as "Long, Long, Long," which sounds absolutely amazing on this, so much clearer and more focused.  And yet in other places the new mix seems to bring out details just for the sake bringing them out.  Drums and bass are more prominent pretty much throughout, which greatly benefits the rockers.

George Martin once famously said that the existing double album was too unfocused, and would have been much improved if they'd pared it down to a single album.  In theory I kind of agree with him; but like many other Beatle-nerds I keep trying to come up with a 14 track, 7 tracks per side version that truly satisfies.  I've had a playlist on my phone for years, and every time I put it on I end up moving things around, and adding or removing a song or two.

My current list (which may change by supper time):

Side 1:

Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence (the opening 1-2 punch is so good, I can't mess with it)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Mother Nature's Son
Cry Baby Cry
Blackbird
I'm So Tired

Side 2

Birthday
Don't Pass Me By (gotta have a Ringo song)
Revolution 1
Long, Long, Long
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Julia

I'm still not happy with it, though, not least because there are a couple of key songs missing (looking at you, Glass Onion).  Maybe I need to cheat and do 8 songs per side for a total of 16 -- which would have still fit comfortably on an LP, I think....  or I could pull in the Revolution/Hey Jude single.... sigh.
It's still a great playlist although I like 'Glass Onion' and Revolution No.9.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on September 03, 2019, 10:47:35 AM
Today I've been revisiting the White Album 50th Remixes... while I really enjoyed the Sgt. Pepper remixes from a couple years ago, I'm still undecided on the White Album.  There are some tracks where the improvement is clear and obvious, such as "Long, Long, Long," which sounds absolutely amazing on this, so much clearer and more focused.  And yet in other places the new mix seems to bring out details just for the sake bringing them out.  Drums and bass are more prominent pretty much throughout, which greatly benefits the rockers.

George Martin once famously said that the existing double album was too unfocused, and would have been much improved if they'd pared it down to a single album.  In theory I kind of agree with him; but like many other Beatle-nerds I keep trying to come up with a 14 track, 7 tracks per side version that truly satisfies.  I've had a playlist on my phone for years, and every time I put it on I end up moving things around, and adding or removing a song or two.

My current list (which may change by supper time):

Side 1:

Back in the USSR
Dear Prudence (the opening 1-2 punch is so good, I can't mess with it)
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Mother Nature's Son
Cry Baby Cry
Blackbird
I'm So Tired

Side 2

Birthday
Don't Pass Me By (gotta have a Ringo song)
Revolution 1
Long, Long, Long
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Helter Skelter
Julia

I'm still not happy with it, though, not least because there are a couple of key songs missing (looking at you, Glass Onion).  Maybe I need to cheat and do 8 songs per side for a total of 16 -- which would have still fit comfortably on an LP, I think....  or I could pull in the Revolution/Hey Jude single.... sigh.

Lol. I never even considered this, even though I acknowledge it's a fun thing to do.
I would not place Mother's Nature Son and Blackbird so close together though, on one and the same side. To me, they're too much in the same league (in different meanings).
And if I wanted to hear Ringo, I'd pick Good Night, John's lullaby for Julian.

But... to be honest, I like this 'messy' double album just as it is, despite George Martin's remarks. Musically, it's got everything that the 'studio' Beatles had got to give in those years. It's an awesome record.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: jwinter on September 03, 2019, 11:04:58 AM
Lol. I never even considered this, even though I acknowledge it's a fun thing to do.
I would not place Mother's Nature Son and Blackbird so close together though, on one and the same side. To me, they're too much in the same league (in different meanings).
And if I wanted to hear Ringo, I'd pick Good Night, John's lullaby for Julian.

But... to be honest, I like this 'messy' double album just as it is, despite George Martin's remarks. Musically, it's got everything that the 'studio' Beatles had got to give in those years. It's an awesome record.

Yeah, agreed on the proximity of Blackbird and Mother Nature's Son, I definitely need to move one of them to side 2... but then I might end up with too many John songs in a row.  Decisions.

I do love the original album, of course.  This whole exercise is a complete waste of time, but as you say it's amusing and gives me an excuse to revisit the music now and then.  Part of the challenge is to make it like a album they would have released -- so you need to balance Paul vs John, have an opener and a closer for each side, etc., and thus you need a Ringo song -- Don't Pass Me By has never been one of my favorites, but it's slim pickin's here....
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on September 03, 2019, 07:14:08 PM
I'd take Good Night over Don't Pass Me By as the Ringo track (and as the album closer) . And would replace Happiness is a Warm Gun and Helter Skelter with Yer Blues and Glass Onion.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on September 04, 2019, 09:30:54 AM
I'd take Good Night over Don't Pass Me By as the Ringo track (and as the album closer) . And would replace Happiness is a Warm Gun and Helter Skelter with Yer Blues and Glass Onion.

I would never ever replace Happiness Is A Warm Gun for anything.
It's definitely a Top 10 Beatles song for me.

Again, IMHO there's just too many good stuff to make one vinyl album out of it.
Imagine a Beatles legacy without Piggies! No way! ;)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on September 30, 2019, 06:17:30 AM
Just picked up the 50th Anniversary release in the local supermarket. The 2019 producer is Giles Martin, the son of George, who produced the original album. Great sound and introductory articles in the booklet:
(http://)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on September 30, 2019, 08:35:29 AM
Just picked up the 50th Anniversary release in the local supermarket. The 2019 producer is Giles Martin, the son of George, who produced the original album. Great sound and introductory articles in the booklet:
(http://)

Could not resist, eh? :P

(For the moment I will stick to the 2009 (iirc) release.)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: j winter on September 30, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
[pokes head above foxhole]

Ya know, as an album Abbey Road has never really done if for me.  George's and John's contributions are  strong, but Paul's songs leave me cold here -- the whole montage on side 2 is just not my cuppa tea.

Other than Come Together and Here Comes the Sun, I probably play this album the least of any Beatles album, by a large margin.

[ducks back into foxhole]
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on September 30, 2019, 11:28:29 PM
Could not resist, eh? :P

(For the moment I will stick to the 2009 (iirc) release.)

Indeed! I thought that it might be rather pricey but it was £7.00 in Tesco, which I didn't think too bad. I managed to smuggle it into the house concealed between packets cornflakes, cat food, tins of rice pudding etc (not really).
 :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Szykneij on October 02, 2019, 12:46:20 AM
Snagged some good seats to see this on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 09:58:00 AM
Snagged some good seats to see this on Saturday.
Looks great! Let us know what you think.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
[pokes head above foxhole]

Ya know, as an album Abbey Road has never really done if for me.  George's and John's contributions are  strong, but Paul's songs leave me cold here -- the whole montage on side 2 is just not my cuppa tea.

Other than Come Together and Here Comes the Sun, I probably play this album the least of any Beatles album, by a large margin.

[ducks back into foxhole]
Even the Beatles themselves were divided on the merits of Abbey Road. The new booklet is interesting in this respect. I much prefer the long sequence on side 2 of the LP than the earlier songs.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: j winter on October 02, 2019, 10:11:23 AM
Even the Beatles themselves were divided on the merits of Abbey Road. The new booklet is interesting in this respect. I much prefer the long sequence on side 2 of the LP than the earlier songs.

Interesting.  I will probably get the remix at some point soon -- I'm a lifelong Beatles fan, so even if I think Abbey Road one of their weaker albums, that still makes it better than a whole lot of other stuff... :)

I'm kinda split on the remixes so far.  I really like what Giles did with Sgt. Pepper, I thought it sounded wonderful.  But then, I think that was largely due to the way that album was made, with all the sampling down necessary to get such complex music onto crude multi-track tape.  Being able to get down to the basic elements, give everything a good digital scrub, and put it back together again, made for an awesome sonic improvement IMO.  The White Album did not impress me as much -- some things I liked, many things I prefer in the original mix -- but then, I never thought the original mix was that bad.  And that's my fear with Abbey Road -- there's nothing wrong with the sound on the latest remaster of the original mix, IMO -- so I'm not sure why they're messing with it.

But I will almost certainly give it a listen soon -- if nothing else, I suspect that a remixed Come Together, with a focus on the drums, might have some merit.  Whether I end up sending Apple yet more of my hard earned cash for yet another physical copy of the album is another question...
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 02, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
Interesting.  I will probably get the remix at some point soon -- I'm a lifelong Beatles fan, so even if I think Abbey Road one of their weaker albums, that still makes it better than a whole lot of other stuff... :)

I'm kinda split on the remixes so far.  I really like what Giles did with Sgt. Pepper, I thought it sounded wonderful.  But then, I think that was largely due to the way that album was made, with all the sampling down necessary to get such complex music onto crude multi-track tape.  Being able to get down to the basic elements, give everything a good digital scrub, and put it back together again, made for an awesome sonic improvement IMO.  The White Album did not impress me as much -- some things I liked, many things I prefer in the original mix -- but then, I never thought the original mix was that bad.  And that's my fear with Abbey Road -- there's nothing wrong with the sound on the latest remaster of the original mix, IMO -- so I'm not sure why they're messing with it.

But I will almost certainly give it a listen soon -- if nothing else, I suspect that a remixed Come Together, with a focus on the drums, might have some merit.  Whether I end up sending Apple yet more of my hard earned cash for yet another physical copy of the album is another question...

Thanks for that. Maybe I'll get the remixed Sgt. Pepper at some stage. Sgt Pepper, the White Album and Abbey Road are my favourites but I like all their albums, which were so much a part of my childhood. I saw them twice in concert. I won't say 'heard' as all I heard was screaming.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: j winter on October 03, 2019, 04:38:29 AM
Thanks for that. Maybe I'll get the remixed Sgt. Pepper at some stage. Sgt Pepper, the White Album and Abbey Road are my favourites but I like all their albums, which were so much a part of my childhood. I saw them twice in concert. I won't say 'heard' as all I heard was screaming.


OK, I am officially jealous... where'd you see them?  Any specific memories of the concerts?
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: San Antone on October 03, 2019, 04:55:44 AM
Except for some individual songs, my favorites are Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's.  While the new remasters are interesting, I am fine with the originals.  Abbey Road never was a fave of mine, it's a good record, just a little episodic for my tastes.

These songs are my favorites from the other albums:

"Across the Universe"
"All You Need Is Love"
"Blackbird"
"Day Tripper"
"Dear Prudence"
"Doctor Robert"
"Drive My Car"
"Hello Goodbye"
"I Am the Walrus"
"I'll Follow the Sun"
"Sexy Sadie"
"Strawberry Fields Forever"
"Things We Said Today"
"Ticket to Ride"
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 03, 2019, 06:53:01 AM

OK, I am officially jealous... where'd you see them?  Any specific memories of the concerts?

Well, yes. One was at the London Palladium and the other was either at Wembley or Hammersmith - I was about 11 or 12. Through a contact of my parents we got tickets for the Premiere of 'Yellow Submarine' where Ringo refused to sign an autograph for me (that was before he's 'officially' stopped signing them).

PS I've just looked up the Hammersmith concert which was in 1964. I was nine years old. I'm sure that was the other one.

PPS the Palladium concert was also 1964. I was younger that I thought!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on October 04, 2019, 06:16:43 AM
[pokes head above foxhole]

Ya know, as an album Abbey Road has never really done if for me.  George's and John's contributions are  strong, but Paul's songs leave me cold here -- the whole montage on side 2 is just not my cuppa tea.

Other than Come Together and Here Comes the Sun, I probably play this album the least of any Beatles album, by a large margin.

[ducks back into foxhole]

I consider the entire side 2 a masterpiece (including 'The Long One'). Just brilliant.
But maybe my fav 3 individual songs of the album are from side 1: Come Together, Something and I Want You (She's So Heavy).
(Maxwell, Darling and Octopus though: well... all right.)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on October 04, 2019, 06:25:31 AM
Except for some individual songs, my favorites are Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's.  While the new remasters are interesting, I am fine with the originals.  Abbey Road never was a fave of mine, it's a good record, just a little episodic for my tastes.

These songs are my favorites from the other albums:

"Across the Universe"
"All You Need Is Love"
"Blackbird"
"Day Tripper"
"Dear Prudence"
"Doctor Robert"
"Drive My Car"
"Hello Goodbye"
"I Am the Walrus"
"I'll Follow the Sun"
"Sexy Sadie"
"Strawberry Fields Forever"
"Things We Said Today"
"Ticket to Ride"

I fear that I could never come to such a list. Just too much good stuff. ;)
I like the pick of I'll Follow The Sun. Lovely tune. It's a teenage song by Paul, probably influenced by the musical music his father loved.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 04, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
Abbey Road is back on top of the album charts here. The first time since 1970!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: San Antone on October 04, 2019, 11:35:33 AM
I fear that I could never come to such a list. Just too much good stuff. ;)
I like the pick of I'll Follow The Sun. Lovely tune. It's a teenage song by Paul, probably influenced by the musical music his father loved.

Yeah, there is a lot of good stuff, which makes me look for songs that go beyond good, IMO.  My list includes only those songs which I consider truly more than good, and in fact, pristine pop gems (I'll Follow the Sun, Things We Said Today, Blackbird) , or wildly imaginative genre-busting miniatures (Strawberry Fields, I Am the Walrus, Sexy Sadie), that no other band came close to equaling.

I can listen to any of their albums and enjoy the music, whereas for most groups (with some exceptions, Kinks, Beach Boys) of that period I cannot.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: SimonNZ on October 04, 2019, 04:31:42 PM
Just saw this on the Esquire site while looking for something else:

The Best Beatles Song Is a 23-Second Track That Almost Didn’t Exist
Thinking about the genius of "Her Majesty" on the 50th anniversary of Abbey Road. (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a29226810/best-beatles-song-her-majesty-abbey-road-50th-anniversary/)

"I'm going to keep this short, because there’s beauty in brevity, which The Beatles taught me on “Her Majesty.” It’s a 23-second-long-song (26 if you look at Spotify) that almost didn’t exist. In fact, “Her Majesty” is something of a joke, with nonsensical nursery rhyme lyrics and a sloppy, out of place first note. It’s strange, fleeting, and beautiful. It’s 23 seconds I’ve never been able to get out of my head since the first time I heard it—since it surprised me uncredited at the end of Abbey Road, where it came and went like I'd imagined it. I’ve fallen in love during those 26 seconds (my now-partner and I sharing Cadbury Eggs years ago listening to the back half of Abbey Road in a parking lot in my busted Chevy Blazer). I’ve drunkenly sang the song. I’ve played it in one sitting on repeat, dozens of times, fascinated.

“Her Majesty” was recorded in three takes on July 2, 1969. As the story goes, the song was originally intended to be placed in a medley between “Mean Mr. Mustard” and “Polythene Pam.” But, according to the engineer there that day, John Kurlander, Paul McCartney (who is the only one who performs on the track) heard “Her Majesty” in that spot and decided it didn’t fit. Kurlander was told to cut the song and throw it away. But, as Kurlander later explained:

“I'd been told never to throw anything away, so after he left I picked it up off the floor, put about 20 seconds of red leader tape before it and stuck it onto the end of the edit tape.”

The next day, when McCartney heard the song placed randomly at the end of Abbey Road, he loved it, and decided it should remain there on the final cut of the album. That weird blast of a note at the beginning is actually the final chord of “Mean Mr. Mustard.” Because of its placement, and because “Her Majesty” didn’t appear on the Abbey Road tracklist, it’s often considered the first-ever hidden track on an album.

When I was younger, probably because of my personal experiences with “Her Majesty,” I always thought of it as a love song—a song about awkwardness around a crush whom you respect enough to refer to as “her majesty.” I might have been at once projecting and overthinking it, because, in reality, the song is something of a joke about the British ruling family. These are the only lyrics:

Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she doesn't have a lot to say / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she changes from day to day / I want to tell her that I love her a lot / But I gotta get a bellyful of wine / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeah, / Someday I'm going to make her mine.

As McCartney later explained, there’s something anti-authority about these lyrics:

“It was quite funny because it's basically monarchist, with a mildly disrespectful tone, but it's very tongue in cheek. It's almost like a love song to the Queen.”

This is honestly better than my reading of the song, anyway. “Her Majesty” is punk rock. It’s kind of a middle-finger to the establishment, fitting with the scrappy way the song came to be, and how it has survived.

The Beatles are rightfully considered the greatest band to ever exist. Their catalog is immortalized among every fan, musician, and critic still today. Their hits are known in every corner of the world—"Across the Universe" has been launched into space for intelligent life to hear one day. We all can sing "Hey Jude," and "Here Comes the Sun," and "Let it Be" and dozens of others. Each of these songs persevere because of the craft and songwriting genius that it took to create them. But what I love about “Her Majesty” is it could not and will not ever be a famous Beatles song. It’s an accident. It’s a moment of spontaneity, of playful musicianship stuck in time, of Paul McCartney not trying to do anything more than mess about. Yet here it remains. Here I am writing about it and listening to it and thinking about it. It’s a song that only exists today because of luck and the charm of its eight lines and silly little melody. And for that I love it a lot. “Her Majesty” is a pretty nice song, and I feel like I’ve made it mine.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 04, 2019, 10:41:36 PM
Just saw this on the Esquire site while looking for something else:

The Best Beatles Song Is a 23-Second Track That Almost Didn’t Exist
Thinking about the genius of "Her Majesty" on the 50th anniversary of Abbey Road. (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/a29226810/best-beatles-song-her-majesty-abbey-road-50th-anniversary/)

"I'm going to keep this short, because there’s beauty in brevity, which The Beatles taught me on “Her Majesty.” It’s a 23-second-long-song (26 if you look at Spotify) that almost didn’t exist. In fact, “Her Majesty” is something of a joke, with nonsensical nursery rhyme lyrics and a sloppy, out of place first note. It’s strange, fleeting, and beautiful. It’s 23 seconds I’ve never been able to get out of my head since the first time I heard it—since it surprised me uncredited at the end of Abbey Road, where it came and went like I'd imagined it. I’ve fallen in love during those 26 seconds (my now-partner and I sharing Cadbury Eggs years ago listening to the back half of Abbey Road in a parking lot in my busted Chevy Blazer). I’ve drunkenly sang the song. I’ve played it in one sitting on repeat, dozens of times, fascinated.

“Her Majesty” was recorded in three takes on July 2, 1969. As the story goes, the song was originally intended to be placed in a medley between “Mean Mr. Mustard” and “Polythene Pam.” But, according to the engineer there that day, John Kurlander, Paul McCartney (who is the only one who performs on the track) heard “Her Majesty” in that spot and decided it didn’t fit. Kurlander was told to cut the song and throw it away. But, as Kurlander later explained:

“I'd been told never to throw anything away, so after he left I picked it up off the floor, put about 20 seconds of red leader tape before it and stuck it onto the end of the edit tape.”

The next day, when McCartney heard the song placed randomly at the end of Abbey Road, he loved it, and decided it should remain there on the final cut of the album. That weird blast of a note at the beginning is actually the final chord of “Mean Mr. Mustard.” Because of its placement, and because “Her Majesty” didn’t appear on the Abbey Road tracklist, it’s often considered the first-ever hidden track on an album.

When I was younger, probably because of my personal experiences with “Her Majesty,” I always thought of it as a love song—a song about awkwardness around a crush whom you respect enough to refer to as “her majesty.” I might have been at once projecting and overthinking it, because, in reality, the song is something of a joke about the British ruling family. These are the only lyrics:

Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she doesn't have a lot to say / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / But she changes from day to day / I want to tell her that I love her a lot / But I gotta get a bellyful of wine / Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl / Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeah, / Someday I'm going to make her mine.

As McCartney later explained, there’s something anti-authority about these lyrics:

“It was quite funny because it's basically monarchist, with a mildly disrespectful tone, but it's very tongue in cheek. It's almost like a love song to the Queen.”

This is honestly better than my reading of the song, anyway. “Her Majesty” is punk rock. It’s kind of a middle-finger to the establishment, fitting with the scrappy way the song came to be, and how it has survived.

The Beatles are rightfully considered the greatest band to ever exist. Their catalog is immortalized among every fan, musician, and critic still today. Their hits are known in every corner of the world—"Across the Universe" has been launched into space for intelligent life to hear one day. We all can sing "Hey Jude," and "Here Comes the Sun," and "Let it Be" and dozens of others. Each of these songs persevere because of the craft and songwriting genius that it took to create them. But what I love about “Her Majesty” is it could not and will not ever be a famous Beatles song. It’s an accident. It’s a moment of spontaneity, of playful musicianship stuck in time, of Paul McCartney not trying to do anything more than mess about. Yet here it remains. Here I am writing about it and listening to it and thinking about it. It’s a song that only exists today because of luck and the charm of its eight lines and silly little melody. And for that I love it a lot. “Her Majesty” is a pretty nice song, and I feel like I’ve made it mine.
Very interesting. 'Her Majesty' always makes me smile. It is paradoxically disrespectful and affectionate.
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: Marc on October 05, 2019, 01:18:33 AM
Abbey Road is back on top of the album charts here. The first time since 1970!

I read the same about the Netherlands 2 days ago… good music rules!
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 05, 2019, 04:56:21 AM
I read the same about the Netherlands 2 days ago… good music rules!
Definitely!  :)
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: San Antone on October 07, 2019, 12:12:45 PM
A song I should have included in my list of favorites:

https://www.youtube.com/v/bJ_OMbWJ46g
Title: Re: The Beatles Backyard
Post by: vandermolen on October 07, 2019, 01:10:08 PM
I never knew before that Abbey Road was the Beatles last album, because although 'Let it Be' was released after Abbey Road it was actually recorded before it.