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Title: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 15, 2007, 06:17:13 AM
With all the posting about the worth of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, I thought I'd offer a poll on all the Beethoven Symphonies.

My three picks are the 5th, 7th and 9th (of course).
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Todd on May 15, 2007, 06:21:05 AM
3, 6, and 9, in roughly that order. 
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 15, 2007, 06:23:02 AM
With all the posting about the worth of Beethoven's 9th Symphony, I thought I'd offer a poll on all the Beethoven Symphonies.

My three picks are the 5th, 7th and 9th (of course).

Wow. Me too.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 15, 2007, 06:25:12 AM
Wow. Me too.

Boy, the odds of us picking the same three are minimal.  I've found my twin!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 15, 2007, 06:25:49 AM
Great idea, Don!

Tough call, but I voted for the Fourth, Sixth & Seventh.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Valentino on May 15, 2007, 06:26:10 AM
Today's snapshot: 3, 5 and 7. 3 is on top always, but 6, 4, 8 and 9 could all be runner ups (and so could 7).
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 15, 2007, 06:29:21 AM
Boy, the odds of us picking the same three are minimal.  I've found my twin!

 ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: AB68 on May 15, 2007, 06:31:17 AM
My favourite Beethoven symphony has always been the 7th. The 3rd in second place and the pastorale third. I am also very fond of the fourth. But I love every single one of them. I think it is very difficult to choose one over another.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 15, 2007, 06:39:42 AM
Boy, the odds of us picking the same three are minimal.

Again, I like your sense of humor, Don!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: rubio on May 15, 2007, 06:44:01 AM
My favourite Beethoven symphony has always been the 7th. The 3rd in second place and the pastorale third. I am also very fond of the fourth. But I love every single one of them. I think it is very difficult to choose one over another.

The 7th is also my favourite, and I guess my favourite symphony of all together with Bruckner 8. I always look for excellent recordings of these symphonies. A bit behind I would place no. 3 and no. 4. I also find no. 2 very attractive. Well, I do love all of Beethoven's symphonies.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 15, 2007, 06:44:49 AM
Again, I like your sense of humor, Don!

You may be the only one.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 15, 2007, 07:45:45 AM
3, 4, 8

Those are the ones I listen to the most so I assume that means something.

Sarge
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 15, 2007, 07:52:42 AM
9
3
6
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Shrunk on May 15, 2007, 07:59:56 AM
3, 5, 7, in no particular order (Changes depending on who's conducting, my mood, barometric pressure, etc.).

I'm surprised at the support #4 is getting, flying in the face of the conventional wisdom of the odd #'s being best.  I should give that one a more careful listen.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 15, 2007, 08:03:20 AM
A much simpler question would be "your 3 least favorite" LvB Symphonies:

1, 2, 4 as my LEAST favorite (by a hugely wide margin . . .  . . . .)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 15, 2007, 08:03:59 AM
I'm surprised at the support #4 is getting, flying in the face of the conventional wisdom of the odd #'s being best.  I should give that one a more careful listen.

Both the Fourth and the Eighth have been unfairly relegated to the second tier. They deserve better.

Sarge
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: orbital on May 15, 2007, 08:21:32 AM
6, 5, 7. In that order.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Brewski on May 15, 2007, 08:28:56 AM
Mine are 9, 8 and 7, in roughly that order.  I actually don't know No. 8 all that well, which is why it sounds so fresh, the few times I've heard it.

--Bruce
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 15, 2007, 08:35:09 AM
I'm surprised at the support #4 is getting, flying in the face of the conventional wisdom of the odd #'s being best.  I should give that one a more careful listen.

The fourth is an amazing work. I'd recommend Pierre Monteux on Decca. It takes a while to open up to it but it's well worth it. Aside for the 1st, there really isn't a Beethoven symphony that isn't a masterpiece...
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 15, 2007, 08:40:48 AM
The fourth is an amazing work.

Agreed!

Quote
. . . It takes a while to open up to it but it's well worth it.

Interesting;  I took to it immediately!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: 71 dB on May 15, 2007, 08:50:34 AM
6
7 & 9
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bunny on May 15, 2007, 09:05:24 AM
I chose 3,7, & 9 which are my favorites today, but I'm a fickle lover.  Tomorrow it could well be 2,4 and 8; or 1,5, and 6.  I'm just happy that I don't have to make a binding choice about these works. ;)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 15, 2007, 09:12:40 AM
I'm just happy that I don't have to make a binding choice about these works.

Too late  ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: edward on May 15, 2007, 10:51:49 AM
8, 4 and 7 for me, in that order--the first two because they're infinitely fresh, the third because it's just damn good fun.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bach Man on May 15, 2007, 11:05:05 AM
9, 3 and 6 in that order.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Maciek on May 15, 2007, 11:24:50 AM
Great idea, Don!

Tough call, but I voted for the Fourth, Sixth & Seventh.

Since the subject of twins has been brought up, may I mention, Karl, that I do not believe you! You simply typed those three in because you somehow managed to peek into my choices (befor I actually made them...). I know that. It's obvious. So no need to hide it.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 15, 2007, 11:27:10 AM
6, 5, 7. In that order.

6, 5, ...............9.

In that order.  8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: rockerreds on May 15, 2007, 11:29:03 AM
7,3,5...
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Valentino on May 15, 2007, 11:33:18 AM
4 needed C. Kleiber, and I was hooked.

What about 10 then, in this magnificent recording?

(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/020/28516.jpg)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: beclemund on May 15, 2007, 11:41:38 AM
9, 3 then 5 (but that could be 7 or 8 as well as picking that third favorite was tough). The 9th is probably the one I have the most different readings of and definitely the one I listen to most by a long shot.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Lethevich on May 15, 2007, 11:52:29 AM
I knew that the 4th and 8th were the least popular of 3-9, but I didn't know that the (relative) dislike of the 8th was so great as to give the 4th double the amount of votes...
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: hornteacher on May 15, 2007, 12:43:58 PM
In order (most favorite to least favorite):  9 5 7 3 1 8 4 6 2
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 15, 2007, 12:46:29 PM
4, 8 & 9, in no particular order. :)

8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Michel on May 15, 2007, 12:48:37 PM
For me, in order:

2, 3, 7, 4

My faves.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: orbital on May 15, 2007, 12:58:42 PM
6


That's gold George! Gold!   :D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 15, 2007, 01:00:01 PM
That's gold George! Gold!   :D

Yes it is, Banya!  ;D

Whom do you like in the glorious 6?

I like Walter and Boehm.  :)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: orbital on May 15, 2007, 01:26:39 PM
Yes it is, Banya!  ;D

Whom do you like in the glorious 6?

I like Walter and Boehm.  :)
Sorry to say I don't have a lot of choices. I only had two recordings, one of which is Masur on Philips and the other was Klemperer (VOX) which I primarily bought for the Missa Solemnis. However Beethoven's Mass did not do much for me, so I have not listened to it a lot, and I somehow lost the second CD with the sixth on it  ::)

So whenever I need to hear that thunder I (have to) turn on Masur, and it is quite a heavy one :)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Michel on May 15, 2007, 01:42:17 PM
This bloody thread and our discussions on the other one have made me go and spend a load more money....deary me..

Barenboims complete cycle, then Bohm's symphonies 2,4,5 and something else then Guldas complete piano recordings..argh!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 15, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
This bloody thread and our discussions on the other one have made me go and spend a load more money....deary me..

Barenboims complete cycle, then Bohm's symphonies 2,4,5 and something else then Guldas complete piano recordings..argh!

That's Rob's motivation - to get us to buy more music. ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: DetUudslukkelige on May 15, 2007, 01:53:35 PM
3, 7, 9, in no particular order. 7 is the one I listen to most often, probably, but I can't really choose a favorite between the three. For a long time, I would have said 3, 5, 9, but I had never given the seventh its fair chance.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bogey on May 15, 2007, 01:58:23 PM
Both the Fourth and the Eighth have been unfairly relegated to the second tier. They deserve better.

Sarge

Yes, but remember Sarge, Beethoven's second tier is most composers' box seats.

As of today....3,5, and 1.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 15, 2007, 02:10:19 PM
Yes, but remember Sarge, Beethoven's second tier is most composers' box seats.

All Dittersdorf needs is a dollar and a dream . . . .

 ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Joe Barron on May 15, 2007, 03:09:10 PM
My favorite Beethoven symphony?

Whichever one I heard last.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 15, 2007, 04:01:51 PM
My favorite Beethoven symphony?

Whichever one I heard last.

Best answer yet.  :)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bunny on May 15, 2007, 10:00:52 PM
My favorite Beethoven symphony?

Whichever one I heard last.

Mine is the one I'm putting on next. ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: val on May 15, 2007, 11:00:06 PM
The 7th above all.

Then perhaps the 4th.

And the 9th, because of its first 3 movements.

What a pity to leave outside the 3rd with the March.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: hornteacher on May 16, 2007, 02:11:08 AM
The 7th above all.

Anybody know a version of the 7th in which the finale goes REALLY fast and the horns just rip through the orchestra (but the performance is still clean)?
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: val on May 16, 2007, 02:20:03 AM
Quote
hornteacher

Anybody know a version of the 7th in which the finale goes REALLY fast and the horns just rip through the orchestra (but the performance is still clean)?

Pierre Monteux with the LSO.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 16, 2007, 02:51:45 AM
The 7th above all.

Then perhaps the 4th.

And the 9th, because of its first 3 movements.

What a pity to leave outside the 3rd with the March.

We all had to make sacrifices, Val. Me, I wept as I discarded the Ninth...and the Seventh....and the Sixth....and the Fifth...and the Second...

Sarge
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 16, 2007, 03:06:06 AM
We all had to make sacrifices, Val. Me, I wept as I discarded the Ninth...and the Seventh....and the Sixth....and the Fifth...and the Second...

Sarge

You discarded all three of my picks.  :-[
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Cato on May 16, 2007, 03:48:03 AM
Sarge and Karl have mentioned #4 as being unfairly neglected.

It is interesting that Stravinsky is on record (in a book) that his favorite was #4.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 16, 2007, 03:51:42 AM
Sarge and Karl have mentioned #4 as being unfairly neglected.

It is interesting that Stravinsky is on record (in a book) that his favorite was #4.

And wasn't Beethoven himself especially fond of the Eighth?

Sarge
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 16, 2007, 03:52:28 AM
You discarded all three of my picks.  :-[

It wasn't done lightly, I assure you, George.

Sarge

Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 16, 2007, 03:55:22 AM
And wasn't Beethoven himself especially fond of the Eighth?

With that delicious cello-&-horn opening to the trio of the Scherzo, who could blame him, Sarge?
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 16, 2007, 05:18:13 AM
And wasn't Beethoven himself especially fond of the Eighth?

Sarge

He didn't attend the premiere concert of the 2 (in 1814, I believe). He asked one of the people who DID attend how they were received, and when told that the 7th received great applause while the 8th failed to please, he flew into a rage and ranted about how stupid the average listener was. So, I would suppose you are right. :)

8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 16, 2007, 05:20:14 AM
It wasn't done lightly, I assure you, George.

Sarge



Its OK, I discarded all of your picks.  ;D


...also not lightly.  :)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: from the new world on May 16, 2007, 05:27:54 AM
He didn't attend the premiere concert of the 2 (in 1814, I believe). He asked one of the people who DID attend how they were received, and when told that the 7th received great applause while the 8th failed to please, he flew into a rage and ranted about how stupid the average listener was. So, I would suppose you are right. :)

If Beethoven saw the results of this poll, he might conclude we are just average listeners.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Joe Barron on May 16, 2007, 05:52:42 AM
He asked one of the people who DID attend how they were received, and when told that the 7th received great applause while the 8th failed to please, he flew into a rage and ranted about how stupid the average listener was.

Gee, and they say atonal composers are contemptuous of listeners ...

 ;)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 16, 2007, 06:09:56 AM
10 is my favorite . . . . .
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bruckner is God on May 16, 2007, 07:12:01 AM
7, 6 and 4 in that order.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 16, 2007, 07:37:05 AM
10 is my favorite . . . . .

Number? Volume control setting? Female rating?

Sarge
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Sergeant Rock on May 16, 2007, 07:38:57 AM
7, 6 and 4 in that order.

Another vote for the Fourth! Unbelievable. We are now neck and neck with the Sixth and gaining fast on the Fifth. This is turning out to be quite a horse race, folks.

Sarge
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Haffner on May 16, 2007, 07:57:10 AM
It's either the 1962 Herbert Von Karajan-conducted 3rd Symphony or the incredible performance of the 9th from that same cycle.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: quintett op.57 on May 16, 2007, 08:18:37 AM
Uneasy, 6
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Cato on May 16, 2007, 09:57:14 AM

Quote from: D Minor on Today at 01:09:56 AM
Quote
10 is my favorite . . . . .

Number? Volume control setting? Female rating?

Sarge

Obviously a reference to the Brahm... (whoops!) BRUCKNER First Symphony!!!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Maciek on May 16, 2007, 10:23:52 AM
Another vote for the Fourth! Unbelievable. We are now neck and neck with the Sixth and gaining fast on the Fifth. This is turning out to be quite a horse race, folks.

Sarge

Since we're apparently about to start a fan club, I'd like to mention the recording that sold it to me:

(http://www.cdaccord.com.pl/images/covers/021.jpg)
(CD ACCORD, ACD 021, Sinfonia Varsovia conducted by Jan Krenz: Beethoven - 4th, Mozart - G Minor KV550, Bach/Krenz - Polyphonic Suite)

Maciek
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Danny on May 16, 2007, 11:18:26 AM
Sixth, Seventh, and Ninth for me.   :)

Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: hornteacher on May 16, 2007, 01:41:07 PM
Pierre Monteux with the LSO.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Daidalos on May 16, 2007, 02:52:10 PM
4, 7 and 8.

I like all the others too, of course, but of those I am particularly fond.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 16, 2007, 02:57:33 PM
Number? Volume control setting? Female rating?

Sarge

Element . . . . . . (Neon)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: hornteacher on May 16, 2007, 03:21:40 PM
Element . . . . . . (Neon)

Very "Noble" of you.   ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 16, 2007, 03:27:49 PM
Very "Noble" of you.   ;D

Indeed, d minor is a gas... ;D

8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: hornteacher on May 16, 2007, 05:12:39 PM
Indeed, d minor is a gas... ;D

8)

Well done, Gurn.   :D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 16, 2007, 08:36:46 PM
9, 6, 7.



Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Scriptavolant on May 17, 2007, 05:48:11 AM
1, 5, 7

Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 17, 2007, 06:09:15 AM
1, 5, 7



That's odd . . . . . .
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 17, 2007, 06:29:29 AM
That's odd . . . . . .

Don't forget, some people here revel in being odd. They think it makes them clever, or something.  :-\
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Dancing Divertimentian on May 17, 2007, 07:00:22 AM
Don't forget, some people here revel in being odd. They think it makes them clever, or something.  :-\

An answer like 1, 5, 7, strikes me as perfectly sane...not odd or 'clever'.

But yes, there is such a thing as thinly disguised immaturity passed off as clever. But I admit I don't see it here...



Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Scriptavolant on May 17, 2007, 07:08:03 AM
That's odd . . . . . .

What's odd in my choice?
The fifth and seventh are some of the most popular and performed amongst Beethoven's symphonies (see the percentages?). I do love the first symphony, always considered its andante and menuetto extremely enjoyable.
I don't like the 2nd, cannot stand its larghetto. 3rd and 4th I don't know very much. The 6th I've listened too many times and so on.

All attempts at judging someone else's taste seems so futile to me.. ???
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Scriptavolant on May 17, 2007, 07:17:05 AM
Don't forget, some people here revel in being odd. They think it makes them clever, or something.  :-\

And don't forget, being a ministry of the obvious is always more comfortable.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Mozart on May 17, 2007, 07:18:57 AM
Mine are 7 6 4 in that order.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 17, 2007, 07:23:12 AM
What's odd in my choice?
.
.
.
.
.
I do love the first symphony

That is what's wrong with it.  ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 07:38:56 AM
The First is eminently likeable.

That said, I find it hard to imagine preferring it to, well, a number of the other symphonies.

Having said that, though, if someone else finds that he does prefer it, well, how should enyone gainsay him?
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 17, 2007, 07:44:04 AM
well, how should enyone gainsay him?

Because we can?

Also, after the 9th thread i'm more suspicious then ever about such 'odd' choices. It's hard to tell which is an honest preference and which is fueled by ulterior motives anymore...
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Scriptavolant on May 17, 2007, 08:30:57 AM
It's hard to tell which is an honest preference and which is fueled by ulterior motives anymore...

So that gives you some homework. Try to tell, eh?
In the meanwhile I'll give a listen to the First once again  8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 08:48:39 AM
Heck, if my co-worker had returned my Beethoven symphony box, I'd listen afresh to the First  8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 17, 2007, 08:49:11 AM
What's odd in my choice?

(No, I meant that 1/5/7 are all odd numbers . . . . . . .)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 08:51:02 AM
(No, I meant that 1/5/7 are all odd numbers . . . . . . .)

 0:)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Que on May 17, 2007, 08:52:45 AM
Nice: 1, 2 & 6
Great: 3, 4, 5, 7, & 8
Epic: 9

Q
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Maciek on May 17, 2007, 09:43:22 AM
Don't worry, Andrea. I rather like the 1st too - I never liked it very much until I heard Bernstein's (NYP) recording, where it sounds light and fresh, and quite perfect really... 8)

Still, it doesn't make my top 3. It fits perfectly in the top 9 though... ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Michel on May 17, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
I just got Barenboim through the post, I am dying to put it in, but I can't as my father is sleeping... the joys of moving back home...
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Mozart on May 17, 2007, 09:58:48 AM
Has anyone ever gone through a whole cycle in 1 day? I've been flirting with the idea but it seems to be exhausting!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 17, 2007, 10:02:54 AM
I just got Barenboim through the post, I am dying to put it in, but I can't as my father is sleeping... the joys of moving back home...

Sounds like you might need headphones.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Mozart on May 17, 2007, 10:07:52 AM
7, 6 and 4 in that order.
Dude! I swear I didnt read this before I replied but we said the same exact thing! Allright then!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 17, 2007, 10:14:37 AM
Has anyone ever gone through a whole cycle in 1 day? I've been flirting with the idea but it seems to be exhausting!

I have, and I would never do it again - decreasing marginal returns.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 10:31:43 AM
Heck, if my co-worker had returned my Beethoven symphony box, I'd listen afresh to the First  8)

Hey! Wish was father to the event! (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,9.msg21385.html#msg21385)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 17, 2007, 10:37:42 AM
Hey! Wish was father to the event! (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,9.msg21385.html#msg21385)

Lemme guess, the friend is a GMG member?  ::)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 17, 2007, 10:48:11 AM
Lemme guess, the friend is a GMG member?  ::)

No, it was really happenstance.  I had lent my Gewandhausorchester Leipzig / Kurt Masur box to a co-worker here.  Every week, he would stop by and apologetically say that he would be sure to bring it back.  Today, getting back to my desk after an invigorating walk, what do I find, but my Masur box!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Maciek on May 17, 2007, 10:50:28 AM
Tough call, but I voted for the Fourth, Sixth & Seventh.

7, 6 and 4 in that order.

Mine are 7 6 4 in that order.

This is getting scary - there are 4 of us now (never mind the order).
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Michel on May 17, 2007, 10:54:59 AM
Sounds like you might need headphones.

I have been meaning to get some for a while, but I hesistate as I am deaf in one ear, and don't really want the direct sound in my ear - I need to be careful with what I have.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 17, 2007, 12:00:08 PM
I have been meaning to get some for a while, but I hesistate as I am deaf in one ear, and don't really want the direct sound in my ear - I need to be careful with what I have.

Understood.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Lethevich on May 17, 2007, 02:55:16 PM
Also, after the 9th thread i'm more suspicious then ever about such 'odd' choices. It's hard to tell which is an honest preference and which is fueled by ulterior motives anymore...

No doubt more feminist conspiricists out to destroy society!!!!!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Josquin des Prez on May 17, 2007, 04:54:44 PM
No doubt more feminist conspiricists out to destroy society!!!!!!!!!!1

Old Europe has been dead for half a century. There is no society to destroy, we already live in the dark ages.  ;D
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Florestan on May 17, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
Fourth, Sixth, Eighth.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 18, 2007, 05:29:21 PM
The voting has closed, and the results are as expected; the 9th is the runaway winner with the 1st and 2nd recognized as trash.  :D

I thank you all for your participation!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: dtwilbanks on May 18, 2007, 06:27:17 PM
The voting has closed, and the results are as expected; the 9th is the runaway winner with the 1st and 2nd recognized as trash.  :D

Ha!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 18, 2007, 08:46:14 PM
Ha!

Is that the only response I get after giving an insightful analysis of the voting results?  This is a tough crowd.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: rappy on May 19, 2007, 01:13:57 AM
I would have voted for 8 / 6 / 4 (in that order)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Haffner on May 19, 2007, 09:01:36 AM
Awaiting the assault:


These are the "parts" of LvB's Symphonies that I adore:

#1: 1st and 4th Movements
#3,4, and 5:   1st movements in each
#6:  Pretty much the whole damn thing
#9: 1st, 2nd, and 4th (I just can't seem to "get" the 3rd movement...a great cure for insomniac evenings for me!)


Andy's overall Symphonic LvB favorites: the 1st movement of the "Eroica", and the 4th movement of the 9th.

Just being honest. For me, the perfect Symphonies (all the way through) are Mozart's last six;Haydn's nos  96, 102, and 104; Shostakovich nos. 4 and 14; Mahler nos. 4, 5, and 9; Profokiev "Classical", Tchaikovsky's "Pathetique",and Mendelssohn's "Italian".

Beethoven for me was the master of Chamber Music, particularly the Piano Sonatas/Trios and of course the String Quartet.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bunny on May 20, 2007, 07:04:04 AM
That's Rob's motivation - to get us to buy more music. ;D

Well, it certainly has worked.  I just went to BRO and found some of Wyn Morris's Beethoven and immediately started salivating.  Now I'll have to wait to hear it. 
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Gurn Blanston on May 20, 2007, 07:34:26 AM
Is that the only response I get after giving an insightful analysis of the voting results?  This is a tough crowd.

:)

Well, as much as I like 1 & 2, how could I have put one of them in ahead of 9, for example. I think the poll starter was unnecessarily mean not letting us have up to 9 choices... :(

8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bunny on May 20, 2007, 07:57:38 AM
Is that the only response I get after giving an insightful analysis of the voting results?  This is a tough crowd.

The first and second are far from trash.  They are merely overshadowed by the mightier symphonies.  Btw, I picked the general consensus favorites as my favorites, fwiw.  That doesn't make the 3rd, 7th, and 9th the only great symphonies, nor does it make me a prophet. 
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: BachQ on May 20, 2007, 08:17:31 AM
I think the poll starter was unnecessarily mean not letting us have up to 9 choices... :(

Yeah, the poll would be much more meaningful if we could cast 9 (or even 10) votes . . . . . .
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Haffner on May 20, 2007, 08:22:40 AM
The first and second are far from trash.  They are merely overshadowed by the mightier symphonies.  Btw, I picked the general consensus favorites as my favorites, fwiw.  That doesn't make the 3rd, 7th, and 9th the only great symphonies, nor does it make me a prophet. 




I always thought that the 4th movement of the 1st was one of the best pieces that Mozart never wrote.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Bogey on May 20, 2007, 02:45:57 PM
:)

Well, as much as I like 1 & 2, how could I have put one of them in ahead of 9, for example. I think the poll starter was unnecessarily mean not letting us have up to 9 choices... :(

8)

I always thought that the 4th movement of the 1st was one of the best pieces that Mozart never wrote.

Yup.  Number 1 made my top three cut.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Mozart on May 20, 2007, 05:39:51 PM
Fourth, Sixth, Eighth.

I have seen this pattern before!

...Ten Twelve Fourteen
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Steve on May 20, 2007, 07:35:47 PM
If I could have indicated individual movements...

Eroica, Opening Movement
4th, Second Movement
9th, Fourth Movement
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 21, 2007, 03:09:17 AM
Well, at least the Eighth garnered more votes than than the First and Second together . . . .
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 21, 2007, 03:12:33 AM
. . . the 9th is the runaway winner . . . .

Esteemed Don, far be it from me to precipitate upon a ceremonial march . . . .

But the Ninth edged the Seventh by only two votes (32 vs. 30);  furthermore, it received votes from only a marginal majority of voters (32 out of 59).  I'm not reading that as a runaway  8)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Valentino on May 21, 2007, 03:21:09 AM
I've changed my mind. 4, 6 and 8. That's today's vote.
On the serious side, 1 is the only one I have problems getting to. Inmaturity on my behalf I guess.

Mind you, 3 is outside any competition.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 21, 2007, 06:52:52 AM
Esteemed Don, far be it from me to precipitate upon a ceremonial march . . . .

But the Ninth edged the Seventh by only two votes (32 vs. 30);  furthermore, it received votes from only a marginal majority of voters (32 out of 59).  I'm not reading that as a runaway  8)

Perhaps I need reading glasses, but I don't see it as a runaway either.  :-\
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Haffner on May 21, 2007, 07:02:44 AM
Perhaps I need reading glasses, but I don't see it as a runaway either.  :-\




True. We all have our favorite movements, right?
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Don on May 21, 2007, 07:04:21 AM
Esteemed Don, far be it from me to precipitate upon a ceremonial march . . . .

But the Ninth edged the Seventh by only two votes (32 vs. 30);  furthermore, it received votes from only a marginal majority of voters (32 out of 59).  I'm not reading that as a runaway  8)

I thought it would be obvious that I was only kidding about the "runaway" and citing syms. 1 and 2 as trash.  My apologies to anyone who took me seriously.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 21, 2007, 08:43:22 AM
No worries. (I didn't take it very seriously.)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 21, 2007, 08:59:26 AM
I thought it would be obvious that I was only kidding about the "runaway" and citing syms. 1 and 2 as trash.  My apologies to anyone who took me seriously.

Funny thing, I got your joke when I read your post, but when Karl quoted it, I missed the joke.

It's been a hard month... :-\
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: karlhenning on May 21, 2007, 09:00:20 AM
Dang; I hates being a joke-effacer!  :)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Valentino on May 21, 2007, 10:11:22 AM
Three is thy number. No more. No less. Not two. Not four. Not nine. Thy number is three.
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: 12tone. on May 21, 2007, 10:16:22 AM
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Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: George on May 21, 2007, 10:19:34 AM
12 Tone I saw that box over the weekend and I swear to Jesus, I thought of you.  0:)
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: 12tone. on May 21, 2007, 01:58:29 PM
12 Tone I saw that box over the weekend and I [couldn't believe it], I thought of you.  0:)

Aww, thanks!

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Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Mozart on May 21, 2007, 02:00:33 PM
Num 7 needs just 3 votes! Come on ppl!
Title: Re: Your Favorite Beethoven Symphonies
Post by: Larry Rinkel on May 23, 2007, 06:04:01 AM
Num 7 needs just 3 votes! Come on ppl!

Voting closed three days ago, sweetie.