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[Spotted Horses]

I did not realize he was a MAGA-nut. 

I don't think of him so much as a Trump acolyte. He had a leaning towards conspiracy theory thought patterns before it was fashionable. The Clintons were often a focus.

Google is my friend, it came up with this portion of a thread that snyprr got worked up about. Trigger warning, it will bring back one of the particularly unpleasant epochs in GMG history.

https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php?topic=24159.4240

[Florestan]

Re: M Forever --- De mortuis nihil nisi bene.

I mean, some people are far more peaceful and kind in real life than online. Yours truly is no exception, although I like to think that my own level of aggressiveness and unkindness is much lower than M Forever's has ever been, may God rest him in peace. FWIW, I have never had any conflict with him, although I remember calling him out for his behavior but he never replied.

[Brian]

I always assumed snyprrrr was dealing with some kind of mental illness.

[Karl Henning]

I always assumed snyprrrr was dealing with some kind of mental illness.

That's a good thought. though it remains true that this isn't the place devoted to helping him.

[Spotted Horses]

I always assumed snyprrrr was dealing with some kind of mental illness.

Yes, and I don't remember any occasion when snyprrr became directly hostile to a member of the forum. Just a lot of unhinged theories involving population groups that could be considered implicitly offensive.

[Florestan]

I don't remember any occasion when snyprrr became directly hostile to a member of the forum.

You are absolutely correct. Actually, the exact opposite happened: he was a constant target of scorn, derision and lambasting --- yet he never ever, not once, responded in kind. If this is a sign of mental illness I'll leave to professionals to establish.

[Cato]

You are absolutely correct. Actually, the exact opposite happened: he was a constant target of scorn, derision and lambasting --- yet he never ever, not once, responded in kind. If this is a sign of mental illness I'll leave to professionals to establish.

I always thought the "wildness" and incoherence were just part of an Internet personality that he acted, and not a reflection of his real personality, whatever that may have been!

I believe he was a fan of Stockhausen and other modern composers of the last century e.g. Martinu and Schnittke.

This exchange came to mind:

Did youse guys mention "dude" yet?

My 1905 dictionary define dude as, basically Oscar Wilde...and when i saw that, I was like..."don't call me dude, fag."

When did "dude" change from Oscar Wilde to surfer guy?

And how can you convince ANYONE that it matters?  Their (just testing you) they're just going to call you dude anyway.

IT'S ALL GOOD

every time I hear this i want to gut punch the person and say, "you're right, I feel so much better now. thank you for enlightening me that it was a GOOD thing i did."

I think this phrase originated at a backyard picnic concerning the FOOD. NOT an excuse for you not to take a stand on anything.

TOODLES!

Many good grumbles there, Snyprr!   

"Dudde" is Medieval English for a cloak, and became a slang word for clothes, i.e. "duds."  This is possibly the origin for "dude" in the 19th century, as Easterners wearing "fancy duds" were easily spotted in the West, and were mocked as "duded" (dressed) as inexperienced newcomers.

One source indicates the word is picked up by African-Americans in the early 1900's and stripped of negative connotations, becoming a synonym for "man" or "guy" then.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the Bill and Ted movies of the 1980's make the term a national tic!   

Those sentences above give a good example of the "wildness" of Mr. Snyprr: the second one especially made me wonder what he was writing about, until I suspected that he wanted to make a pun on "DUDE" and "GOOD" despite the lack of a rhyme (outside of Scotland, perhaps    ).  "DUDE" and "FOOD" are closer.

The latter reminds me of a Grumble!

[SimonNZ]

You are absolutely correct. Actually, the exact opposite happened: he was a constant target of scorn, derision and lambasting --- yet he never ever, not once, responded in kind. If this is a sign of mental illness I'll leave to professionals to establish.

He responded to a large number of people asking him to please stop doing things they felt deeply offensive and trolling by doubling down on whatever trolling got a reaction.

Personally I find this more offensive and disruptive than simply being called an idiot in the heat of some argument, and has no veneer of civility to give points to.

[Madiel]

Among other things snyprrr was a homophobe, the only blatant one I've encountered on this forum. I'd prefer it if people actually remembered some of his faults rather than trying to excuse them all.

[Gurn Blanston]

Among other things snyprrr was a homophobe, the only blatant one I've encountered on this forum. I'd prefer it if people actually remembered some of his faults rather than trying to excuse them all.

This is welcome advice. Speaking as someone tasked with dealing with this stuff, I find it disconcerting to see the same people who complained (in many cases) now being nostalgic in retrospect. 

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[Spotted Horses]

He responded to a large number of people asking him to please stop doing things they felt deeply offensive and trolling by doubling down on whatever trolling got a reaction.

Personally I find this more offensive and disruptive than simply being called an idiot in the heat of some argument, and has no veneer of civility to give points to.

Among other things snyprrr was a homophobe, the only blatant one I've encountered on this forum. I'd prefer it if people actually remembered some of his faults rather than trying to excuse them all.

This is welcome advice. Speaking as someone tasked with dealing with this stuff, I find it disconcerting to see the same people who complained (in many cases) now being nostalgic in retrospect. 

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I hope my remarks are not interpreted as indicating I think the removal from snyprrr from the site was unjustified. He incessantly posted views that were unhinged and often offensive. The fact that he did not personally attack individuals doesn't negate that. Again, too bad he couldn't confine his contribution to music-related comments.

[Karl Henning]

This is welcome advice. Speaking as someone tasked with dealing with this stuff, I find it disconcerting to see the same people who complained (in many cases) now being nostalgic in retrospect. 

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He responded to a large number of people asking him to please stop doing things they felt deeply offensive and trolling by doubling down on whatever trolling got a reaction.

Personally I find this more offensive and disruptive than simply being called an idiot in the heat of some argument, and has no veneer of civility to give points to.

Consequently I find it quite unsavory that a self-styled Christian devotes energies to white-washing this, even though I know this class of behavior should be no surprise in the Trump era.

[Gurn Blanston]

I hope my remarks are not interpreted as indicating I think the removal from snyprrr from the site was unjustified. He incessantly posted views that were unhinged and often offensive. The fact that he did not personally attack individuals doesn't negate that. Again, too bad he couldn't confine his contribution to music-related comments.

They are not being interpreted that way by me, rather, I am particularly sensitive to a trend here in general whenever someone leaves, for whatever reason, to create a cult of personality around them which espouses quite a different reality.  It is most certainly not specific or even generally aimed at you. Of course, when YOU leave, your legend grows until you return with the reality of who you are, which is a rather more balanced person overall.

FWIW, snipper and I were great friends behind the scenes, and I often excoriated him out of public view for his tasteless (being nice here) comments. He was another of those people who couldn't/wouldn't control himself in public while being quite OK in private.

[Spotted Horses]

FWIW, snipper and I were great friends behind the scenes, and I often excoriated him out of public view for his tasteless (being nice here) comments. He was another of those people who couldn't/wouldn't control himself in public while being quite OK in private.

I suppose he styled himself as a performance artist, of sorts.

[Szykneij]

My feeling is, someone who doesn't steal when people are watching isn't necessarily honest. The person who does the right thing when no one is watching or knows about it is the good person. The same holds true on the internet. Someone who is a jerk when hiding behind an avatar is showing their true colors, regardless of how they act when people are around.

[Spotted Horses]

My feeling is, someone who doesn't steal when people are watching isn't necessarily honest. The person who does the right thing when no one is watching or knows about it is the good person. The same holds true on the internet. Someone who is a jerk when hiding behind an avatar is showing their true colors, regardless of how they act when people are around.

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[SonicMan46]

My feeling is, someone who doesn't steal when people are watching isn't necessarily honest. The person who does the right thing when no one is watching or knows about it is the good person. The same holds true on the internet. Someone who is a jerk when hiding behind an avatar is showing their true colors, regardless of how they act when people are around.

Nice summary Tony - my departed younger brother was like that, i.e. kicked off many forums for being an A**Hole - unfortunately, he was not much better in real life - miss him though (treated me as his older 'doc brother' w/ some respect), although my wife was never a fan -      Dave

[Karl Henning]

I suppose he styled himself as a performance artist, of sorts.

Good obs.

[Karl Henning]

My feeling is, someone who doesn't steal when people are watching isn't necessarily honest. The person who does the right thing when no one is watching or knows about it is the good person. The same holds true on the internet. Someone who is a jerk when hiding behind an avatar is showing their true colors, regardless of how they act when people are around.

Character is who you are in the dark. — Lord John Worfin

[amw]

I mean, some people are far more peaceful and kind in real life than online. Yours truly is no exception,

Yes, it will probably surprise members of this forum to know that in real life I am considered likeable and charming. The internet tends to exaggerate our personalities and bring out our worst selves—e.g., my real life weaknesses include being considered to have a lot of unused potential and to not be "relationship material", and online these manifest as an inflated sense of intellectual superiority that never really amounts to anything, and a vacillation between insecure attachment to and rejection of others, respectively—which is one reason I've tried to cut back my participation over the years, both here and on social media, and focus more on self-improvement. (The other main reason is running out of hard disk space for new music.)

Similarly I imagine for someone like snyprr there was some weakness in his real life (e.g., I don't recall his job/living situation ever being very secure) that led him towards conspiratorial thinking and disgust with particular out-groups he perceived as taking attention away from his own problems (the gays, the ethnic minorities, the Jews, etc.), and he never had the self-awareness to pull back from online participation.

I don't buy the "what we are in the dark" because I've watched people who spend all their time online develop drastic personality changes, as this exaggeration of one's most unhealthy traits becomes a self-sustaining feedback loop. It's similar to drug or alcohol addiction in some ways (and some scientists, iirc, have made this comparison directly). Keep someone away from the self-destructive impulse for a few months and they'll start to wonder how it was they ever became obsessed with Trump, or seeking validation from strangers, or watching weird pornography, etc. But that's easier said than done.