The i-Deals Incident

[Opus106]

I was just about to post that their storefront has come back from coma.

The message under all CDs is the same: "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available." Perhaps a sign that they are slowly getting back to normalcy, at least with regard to the prices displayed; not sure about that tonne of orders received over the last two or three days.

[DavidRoss]

I was just about to post that their storefront has come back from coma.

The message under all CDs is the same: "Sign up to be notified when this item becomes available." Perhaps a sign that they are slowly getting back to normalcy, at least with regard to the prices displayed; not sure about that tonne of orders received over the last two or three days.

That's a good sign. Give 'em time to recover and reset. If the cut-rate pricing on several items was intended for inventory reduction or other purposes, they probably need to assess where they are after the weekend sales. If it was a mistake, they probably need to assess the damage and figure out how to proceed.

One thing seems certain: if they resume some of those super-duper bargain prices then probability is .9+ that it was no mistake.

[flyingdutchman]

If this happens with I-Deals Store, then I will have no choice but to make this a legal issue.

You're an ass.  I'm sorry, but you are nothing but a greedy person.  You trying to make this a legal issue shows how little you know about it.

[Mirror Image]

You're an ass.  I'm sorry, but you are nothing but a greedy person.  You trying to make this a legal issue shows how little you know about it.

And calling me an ass and a greedy person shows how little you know about me. It may appear that I'm this way, but I'm not. Those that truly know me, know that I'm actually a caring, understanding person, but when I can get CDs for a dollar (plus shipping), I'm sorry but I'm all over that. It's not that I'm greedy, it's just that I felt very much like a person who was cut loose in a CD warehouse. As a collector, I was doing what I love to do: buy CDs. If you've got a problem with that, then that's your prerogative, but there's no need to make this personal.

[bigshot]

I'm sure you're very nice, but you still don't have any legal recourse here. You put in an order. You haven't bought anything yet. They have the option of filling your order or not. Until money has changed hands, there is no transaction. And on Amazon, that doesn't happen until the seller is ready to ship.

[Mirror Image]

I'm sure you're very nice, but you still don't have any legal recourse here. You put in an order. You haven't bought anything yet. They have the option of filling your order or not. Until money has changed hands, there is no transaction. And on Amazon, that doesn't happen until the seller is ready to ship.

If it's not a transaction, then why do I have the option to leave positive/negative feedback?

[bigshot]

What gives you the idea that feedback is part of the legal definition of a transaction? Until the money changes hands, the deal isn't set in stone.

Go ahead and leave bitter feedback if you really feel you must. I suppose someone pays attention to that stuff. (I don't.)

[Mirror Image]

What gives you the idea that feedback is part of the legal definition of a transaction? Until the money changes hands, the deal isn't set in stone.

Go ahead and leave bitter feedback if you really feel you must. I suppose someone pays attention to that stuff. (I don't.)

I asked this question first: if it's not a transaction, then why can I leave positive/negative feedback if the seller chooses to cancel the order?

[Que]

Yes, dear GMG'ers here it is! The pathology of the wet dream of any compulsive CD buyer: everything for ONE dollar!

I ordered only a single item myself, and am not counting on getting it.

I've seen some discussion on the legal issues. Being in the legal profession, though not as a Civil lawyer, it intrigued me. Under Dutch law a transaction i.e. a legal obligation does not come about only when money changes hands, but when an offer is made and it is accepted. Pacta sunt servanda, so both parties then have to put their money where their mouth is/was. BUT when one of the parties made an error that was or should have been apparent to the other party, the former is not bound to fulfill (that part of) the deal. Obviously something that applies here, where it not for the fact that US law is at issue here! 

Q

[Mirror Image]

Order update:

They just shipped 18 CDs. One order was a 13 CD order and the other was a 5 CD order.

[Mirror Image]

BUT when one of the parties made an error that was or should have been apparent to the other party, the former is not bound to fulfill (that part of) the deal.

Q

The problem though, Que, is that none of us know truly what happened. It has been nothing but speculation at this point. I thought it was a glitch in their pricing system while another person thinks a warehouse is liquidating some of its' assets. In any event, I have 19 CDs on the way that I bought at an incredible price, so I'm a greedy happy man.

[springrite]

John, next time you see a sale like this, order 2 of each. I will pay you to ship to China or you can re-sell them at a considerable profit, which translates to a bigger CD purchasing budget to fund your ever worsening CDCDCD.

[Mirror Image]

John, next time you see a sale like this, order 2 of each. I will pay you to ship to China or you can re-sell them at a considerable profit, which translates to a bigger CD purchasing budget to fund your ever worsening CDCDCD.

If I ordered 2 copies of each CD I purchased and all the extra copies to you, then this would mean I'm not truly not a greedy man.

[springrite]

If I ordered 2 copies of each CD I purchased and all the extra copies to you, then this would mean I'm not truly not a greedy man.

Exactly!

That is why I have decided to pay you $1.01 so that you can still be considered greedy. 

[Mirror Image]

Exactly!

That is why I have decided to pay you $1.01 so that you can still be considered greedy. 

By the way, Paul, did you buy anything from I-Deals?

[springrite]

By the way, Paul, did you buy anything from I-Deals?

No, I have been cured of CDCDCD.



No, I wasn't quick enough. This near missed has re-awakened my CDCDCD instinct. I think I will be worse for it.

[Mirror Image]

No, I have been cured of CDCDCD.



No, I wasn't quick enough. This near missed has re-awakened my CDCDCD instinct. I think I will be worse for it.

Swallow your medication, Paul! Do not give into the horrors of CDCDCD! This 'sale' didn't last long. Two nights is all if I remember correctly but even these nights they cut this 'sale' off quite quickly.

Anyway, I'm tired. Time for bed. Zzzzzz....

[Madiel]

You may not think it's fair and that's your right. We'll just agree to disagree. A salesperson puts a big screen television in front of you for $40 and, then you go to buy it and then he say's "Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake. It's $4000." I'm sorry but people shouldn't be so careless. That television is mine for $40.

Legal analysis says, as far as I can recall, that it isn't.  The advertised price is an offer to come and form a contract. There isn't a contract just because you say "yes, I'll have that".

Not least because if the advertisement is an error, there isn't a meeting of minds.

[Madiel]

Then it sounds like you don't mind being jerked around. Best of luck to you.

Where exactly is the jerking around if you see a price that you know is too good to be true?

If you go all out to get a television you know is worth thousands for $40, the seller isn't jerking you around. If anything it's the other way.

[Madiel]

I asked this question first: if it's not a transaction, then why can I leave positive/negative feedback if the seller chooses to cancel the order?

For the same reason that people are able to leave reviews for CDs they've never listend to.