Glaring Omissions: Bach Cantatas

[Bogey]

Help me out if you can.  Let me know what needs added pronto (and a rec for the conductor would be appreciated).  Here is what I have, some of which I have two recordings.:

    1 Rilling Feast of Annunciation of Mary
    2 Rilling 2nd Sunday after Trinity
    3 Rilling 2nd Sunday after Epiphany
    4 Junghänel Easter Sunday
    6 Coin Easter Monday
    7 Gardiner Feast of Nativity of St John the Baptist
    8 Rifkin 16th Sunday after Trinity
  12 Junghänel/ Wöldike Jubilate [3rd Sunday after Easter]
  20 Gardiner 1st Sunday after Trinity
  21 Herreweghe 3rd Sunday after Trinity For any time
  24 Harnoncourt 4th Sunday after Trinity
  25 Harnoncourt 14th Sunday after Trinity
  26 Harnoncourt 24th Sunday after Trinity
  27 Harnoncourt 16th Sunday after Trinity
  29 Wöldike Jubilate [3rd Sunday after Easter]
  30 Gardiner Feast of Nativity of St John the Baptist
  39 Gardiner 1st Sunday after Trinity
  41 Coin New Year's Day
  42 Herrewweghe Quasimodogeniti [1st Sunday after Easter]
  51 Leonhardt/Rifkin 15th Sunday after Trinity
  52 Leonhardt 23rd Sunday after Trinity
  53 Müller-Brühl Funeral
  54 Leonhardt/ Müller-Brühl Oculi [3rd Sunday in Lent] or 7th Sunday after Trinity (?)
  55 Biondi/Leonhardt 22nd Sunday after Trinity
  56 Leonhardt/ Norrington 19th Sunday after Trinity
  68 Coin Whit Monday
  75 Gardiner 1st Sunday after Trinity
  78 Rifkin 14th Sunday after Trinity
  80 Rifkin Feast of Reformation
  82 Biondi/Norrington Feast of Purification of Mary
106 Junghänel Funeral
140 Rifkin 27th Sunday after Trinity
147 Rifkin Feast of Visitation of Mary
158 Norrington Feast of Purification of Mary Easter Tuesday
167 Gardiner Feast of Nativity of St John the Baptist
169 Müller-Brühl 18th Sunday after Trinity
170 Müller-Brühl 6th Sunday after Trinity
192 Leonhardt Feast of Reformation or Wedding ?
194 Leonhardt Trinity Sunday or Dedication of Church & Organ
195 Leonhardt Wedding
196 Junghänel Wedding ?
200 Müller-Brühl Feast of Purification of Mary
208 Goodman Birthday (Hunt Cantata)

[Parsifal]

BWV 3 is a favorite, because of a wonderful soprano/alto duet.  I've recently listened to the Rilling recording, which benefits from having Arlene Auger.  Rilling's ensemble is not PI, but does uses ensemble sizes which are historically appropriate.

[Bogey]

BWV 3 is a favorite, because of a wonderful soprano/alto duet.  I've recently listened to the Rilling recording, which benefits from having Arlene Auger.

Excellent.  I will get three that I do not have with that disc.  Also under a different baton than I have.

[Wakefield]

Well, this is a big question. 

Strikingly I don't see any version of the superb cantata BWV 21.

And Herreweghe is an excellent solution:

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This recording has many different incarnations. 

[Bogey]

Well, this is a big question. 

Strikingly I don't see any version of the superb cantata BWV 21.

And Herreweghe is an excellent solution:

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This recording has many different incarnations. 

Love his Matthew Passion and it will let me net a 42 as well!  Thanks!

[kishnevi]

I see no BWV 199 and no soprano singing BWV 82. 
Both lacunae can be remedied with this prescription:
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Which you would probably want to have no matter how many recordings of the solo cantatas you already have.
ETA: the soloists in Rilling's cycle for these cantatas sound promising, btw:  Fischer Dieskau for 82 and Auger for 199.  But I have to yet listen to them, so I can make no promises about them!

[The new erato]

Well, this is a big question. 

Strikingly I don't see any version of the superb cantata BWV 21.

And Herreweghe is an excellent solution:

[asin]B0000634W7[/asin]

This recording has many different incarnations. 

I was going to add that as well!

[Bogey]

Is the 16th Sunday after Trinity just another way of saying the 16th week after Pentecost?

[Bogey]

I see no BWV 199 and no soprano singing BWV 82. 
Both lacunae can be remedied with this prescription:
[asin]B0000AOVTI[/asin]
Which you would probably want to have no matter how many recordings of the solo cantatas you already have.
ETA: the soloists in Rilling's cycle for these cantatas sound promising, btw:  Fischer Dieskau for 82 and Auger for 199.  But I have to yet listen to them, so I can make no promises about them!

Added to list for future purchases.  Many thanks.  I have, on numerous occasions considered just getting the Harnoncourt/ Leohardt run and being done with this portion of my collection.  However, after the likes of Coin, Rifkin and Norrington, I decided to cherry pick instead.  When I get close to a complete cycle this way, then I might choose to also sweep up a set under one conductor.

Karl, which conductor(s) takes on your newly acquired set for the cantatas?

[Parsifal]

Added to list for future purchases.  Many thanks.  I have, on numerous occasions considered just getting the Harnoncourt/ Leohardt run and being done with this portion of my collection.  However, after the likes of Coin, Rifkin and Norrington, I decided to cherry pick instead.  When I get close to a complete cycle this way, then I might choose to also sweep up a set under one conductor.

Karl, which conductor(s) takes on your newly acquired set for the cantatas?

I would have no problem with the Teldec cycle if it were not for the boy sopranos and countertenors in solo parts, which are a deal-breaker for me.

[Bogey]

I would have no problem with the Teldec cycle if it were not for the boy sopranos and countertenors in solo parts, which are a lead-breaker for me.

I have heard others say that, while others enjoy that feature.  I like the sound, but not sure if I want my entire run sounding that way.  However, as I am seeing, my map will cost a pretty penny.

[Parsifal]

I have heard others say that, while others enjoy that feature.  I like the sound, but not sure if I want my entire run sounding that way.  However, as I am seeing, my map will cost a pretty penny.

It's frustrating that there are so many interrupted cycles and that some of the complete ones are so expensive.  The Rilling cycle can be gotten for about $60, if you find his approach satisfactory.  I like the singing, although I would have preferred a PI ensemble.  I have both the Teldec and Hanssler Bach editions (in addition to many individual recordings) so I have more Bach than I know what to do with.

[Mandryka]

Bwv 19 has an astonishing fugue. BWV 50 is an amazing one movement thing, a fragment, for eight voices. Another one I love which you don't have is 131.

One cd I like to play a lot is Vol 2 of Suzuki's set, and Vol 11 because of a wonderful Bwv 95.

[Bogey]

Bwv 19 has an astonishing fugue. BWV 50 is an amazing one movement thing, a fragment, for eight voices. Another one I love which you don't have is 131.

Any suggestions on these?

[Mandryka]

Any suggestions on these?

Not really. you may like to try Eric Milnes and Montreal Baroque in 19, I don't know. I think these things gain a lot from one voice a part and boys. But you may think they lose more than the gain, as it were.

You could also try Fritz Lehman, at the other extreme.

[Wakefield]

I consider BWV 61 & 62 as critical acquisitions, too. Gardiner, Suzuki & Herreweghe are - any of them - a perfectly satisfactory acquisition, although Gardiner & Suzuki are slightly more to my taste. You can listen to these cantatas on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7vn310kqGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh44vfPHeGo

(These aren't SDG, but Archiv)

[dimmer]

Two of the best are the radiant BWV 1 and the lovely 161.  I like Suzuki or Gardiner in BWV 1, but like Herreweghe best in 161.
I hate to say it, but generally if I can find an alternative to the Harnoncourt/Leonhardt set I will - the playing is not up to the best modern standards any more, and the treble singing can be anything but reliable. Suzuki, Koopman and Gardiner all are better alternatives, and if there is a Herreweghe performance then pick that up.

BWV 11, 22 and 23 would be three others I would add in - but then there are so many that are great...

[Karl Henning]

Help me out if you can.  Let me know what needs added pronto (and a rec for the conductor would be appreciated).  Here is what I have, some of which I have two recordings.:


    4 Junghänel Easter Sunday
    6 Coin Easter Monday
    7 Gardiner Feast of Nativity of St John the Baptist
    8 Rifkin 16th Sunday after Trinity
  12 Junghänel/ Wöldike Jubilate [3rd Sunday after Easter]
  20 Gardiner 1st Sunday after Trinity
  24 Harnoncourt 4th Sunday after Trinity
  25 Harnoncourt 14th Sunday after Trinity
  26 Harnoncourt 24th Sunday after Trinity
  27 Harnoncourt 16th Sunday after Trinity
  29 Wöldike Jubilate [3rd Sunday after Easter]
  30 Gardiner Feast of Nativity of St John the Baptist
  39 Gardiner 1st Sunday after Trinity
  41 Coin New Year's Day
  51 Leonhardt/Rifkin 15th Sunday after Trinity
  52 Leonhardt 23rd Sunday after Trinity
  53 Müller-Brühl Funeral
  54 Leonhardt/ Müller-Brühl Oculi [3rd Sunday in Lent] or 7th Sunday after Trinity (?)
  55 Biondi/Leonhardt 22nd Sunday after Trinity
  56 Leonhardt/ Norrington 19th Sunday after Trinity
  68 Coin Whit Monday
  75 Gardiner 1st Sunday after Trinity
  78 Rifkin 14th Sunday after Trinity
  80 Rifkin Feast of Reformation
  82 Biondi/Norrington Feast of Purification of Mary
106 Junghänel Funeral
140 Rifkin 27th Sunday after Trinity
147 Rifkin Feast of Visitation of Mary
158 Norrington Feast of Purification of Mary Easter Tuesday
167 Gardiner Feast of Nativity of St John the Baptist
169 Müller-Brühl 18th Sunday after Trinity
170 Müller-Brühl 6th Sunday after Trinity
192 Leonhardt Feast of Reformation or Wedding ?
194 Leonhardt Trinity Sunday or Dedication of Church & Organ
195 Leonhardt Wedding
196 Junghänel Wedding ?
200 Müller-Brühl Feast of Purification of Mary
208 Goodman Birthday (Hunt Cantata)

I have a lot of listening just to inform myself of your own listening here, Bill.

Party on!

[jlaurson]

Help me out if you can.  Let me know what needs added pronto (and a rec for the conductor would be appreciated).  Here is what I have, some of which I have two recordings.:

Aus tiefer Not (BWV 38) is very fine... especially on this disc, which doubles up on two you already have, but in interpretations worthy having another version of!

Aus tiefer Not (BWV 38)

The Lieberson-disc is a must-have... that recommendation is seconded most enthusiastically.

BWV 13 ist very strong -- especially on this recording:
http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/12/best-recordings-of-2008-almost-list.html

BWV 21 is another glaring omission...

Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis, is one of the great Bach cantatas—literally at the very least, because it is his longest...

http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2009/05/ich-hatte-viel-bekummernis-bach.html

I see you have BWV 54 -- good! Still, this might be of interest to read: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2008/12/bach-cantatas-on-record-james-bowman.html, ditto this: http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2007/09/dip-your-ears-83.html, which is mainly about BWV 82.

[Bogey]

Continued appreciation.