Exploring pre-CD era pop music...

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Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 26, 2023, 12:42:43 PMThat's fine. I guess my interest to electronic popular music has been quite limited. Anyway, other musicians, like Vangelis, Klaus Schulze, Deuter or some more recent electronic artists like Alva Noto or Ryoji Ikeda were more interesting to me. Brian Eno too, of course.

You have you music taste and your own interests. They don't "hinge" from my preferences and vice versa.

Tangerine Dream is so much part of me that it doesn't matter how "interesting" I find it. As a Finn I drink coffee every day. I love coffee, but it is not a particularly "interesting" drink to me. Tangerine Dream's music makes me feel certain way. The feeling is similar to the excitement of children, a feeling we adults don't really have, but this music is able to give it to me and that enriches my life. I'd call Tangerine Dream's music fascinating rather than interesting.

I had a "best of" compilation of Vangelis, but I seem to have lost it. :o  I Haven't explored Klaus Schulze, but someday it is time to do that. Deuter, Alva Noto and Ryoji Ikeda are totally unknown to me. In recent years I have re-discovered J.-M. Jarre whose music I was briefly into in high-school long ago. Then there are of course the Ambient/Synth New Age makers such as Steve Roach, Robert Rich etc. I have very little Brian Eno: The album "Another Green World." I don't know what to think about him. A pioneer in music, but do I connect well with his music? Maybe not... ...I have not heard much of it...
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Quote from: 71 dB on October 27, 2023, 01:14:34 AMYou have you music taste and your own interests. They don't "hinge" from my preferences and vice versa.

Tangerine Dream is so much part of me that it doesn't matter how "interesting" I find it. As a Finn I drink coffee every day. I love coffee, but it is not a particularly "interesting" drink to me. Tangerine Dream's music makes me feel certain way. The feeling is similar to the excitement of children, a feeling we adults don't really have, but this music is able to give it to me and that enriches my life. I'd call Tangerine Dream's music fascinating rather than interesting.

I had a "best of" compilation of Vangelis, but I seem to have lost it. :o  I Haven't explored Klaus Schulze, but someday it is time to do that. Deuter, Alva Noto and Ryoji Ikeda are totally unknown to me. In recent years I have re-discovered J.-M. Jarre whose music I was briefly into in high-school long ago. Then there are of course the Ambient/Synth New Age makers such as Steve Roach, Robert Rich etc. I have very little Brian Eno: The album "Another Green World." I don't know what to think about him. A pioneer in music, but do I connect well with his music? Maybe not... ...I have not heard much of it...

I tried listening to Robert Rich and Steve Roach about ten or twenty years ago or so. Then I realised that I couldn't tell one from the other, and all their albums sounded exactly the same.

Did you listen to Muslimgauze?

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Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 27, 2023, 01:36:40 AMI tried listening to Robert Rich and Steve Roach about ten or twenty years ago or so. Then I realised that I couldn't tell one from the other, and all their albums sounded exactly the same.
The early stuff from Steve Roach of course is different from the newest stuff, but I agree there is not much variation. That's why I'm not collecting all of it. Just samples here and there. I'm not a huge fan of these names, but Strata and Soma from the early 90's are excellent synth New Age imho. Getting this kind of music isn't that easy. There are many New Age albums by various artists I'd like to have, but are too expensive to justify the purchase. New Age music in general is almost purely an American phenomena. Europe doesn't care about it except for some weirdos like me.

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 27, 2023, 01:36:40 AMDid you listen to Muslimgauze?

Never heard of that name.  ???
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Quote from: 71 dB on October 27, 2023, 01:52:16 AMThe early stuff from Steve Roach of course is different from the newest stuff, but I agree there is not much variation. That's why I'm not collecting all of it. Just samples here and there. I'm not a huge fan of these names, but Strata and Soma from the early 90's are excellent synth New Age imho. Getting this kind of music isn't that easy. There are many New Age albums by various artists I'd like to have, but are too expensive to justify the purchase. New Age music in general is almost purely an American phenomena. Europe doesn't care about it except for some weirdos like me.

Never heard of that name.  ???

I was buying some Windham Hill's new age CDs back in 80s or 90s, but I do not think I have much desire to return back to this kind of music. Very few names, like Michael Hedges would be in my listening que as per now.

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Quote from: 71 dB on October 26, 2023, 03:52:55 PMI noticed on the WOWHD site, that they have listen for pre-order a 2 CD set of Maureen McGovern, but the details are pretty much missing at this point. The CD is released November 17. I pray the set contain tons of the early stuff (1973-1975)! 

https://www.wowhd.co.uk/morning-after-can-you-read-my-mind-her-best/097037037161

Barnes & Noble also lists this, but provides no further information about it. I tried to google with the given UPC number, but no luck there. I even googled upcoming CD releases, but no mention. It doesn't help I don't even know the label releasing this. As this is a compilation (it seems), the label can be almost anything...
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#46
Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 27, 2023, 03:33:53 AMI was buying some Windham Hill's new age CDs back in 80s or 90s, but I do not think I have much desire to return back to this kind of music. Very few names, like Michael Hedges would be in my listening que as per now.
Back in the 80's? In the Soviet Union? I doubt new age was sold at that time even in Finland!

I don't think I have even heard about these names and I am into new age myself: Wayne Gratz, Kostia, David Arkenstone etc.
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#47
Quote from: 71 dB on October 27, 2023, 03:51:45 AMBack in the 80's? In the Soviet Union? I doubt new age was sold at that time even in Finland!

I don't think I have even heard about these names and I am into new age myself: Wayne Gratz, Kostia, David Arkenstone etc.

It theory - yes, in reality there were the ways to get goods from abroad. I've had the opportunity to buy Western LPs from the 70s and CDs from the late 80s.

You didn't hear Michael Hedges? I would suggest to try:


Spotted Horses

Is Brownsville Station's "Smokin' in the Boys Room' on CD? :)

What I really find lacking is comprehensive reissues of old jazz recordings, from the Shellac era. Can you piece together a complete Ellington from the 40's and 30's?)

71 dB

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 27, 2023, 06:46:57 AMIt theory - yes, in reality there were the ways to get goods from abroad. I've had the opportunity to buy Western LPs from the 70s and CDs from the late 80s.

Okay, thats good.  ;)

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 27, 2023, 06:46:57 AMYou didn't hear Michael Hedges? I would suggest to try:



Thanks, but in 13 minutes starts Snooker on tv. At some point I may look into Michael Hedges.
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Quote from: 71 dB on October 26, 2023, 12:01:17 PMOften the newer remastered releases are easier to find anyway. I don't "care" much about the sound quality in this context. Getting this music is often hard to begin with and sometimes you have to celebrate if you can get it at all!

Doesn't feel like being my thing. Too much blues and I'm struggling... sorry.

Just wondering if you tried listening to my youtube videos?  If not, please give them a shot before dismissing her.  :)

PD

71 dB

Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 28, 2023, 12:44:34 AMJust wondering if you tried listening to my youtube videos?  If not, please give them a shot before dismissing her.  :)

PD

You mean Bonnie Raitt? Yeah, I tried, but her music feels wrong for my taste. Doesn't mean it's bad. 95 % of music just isn't for me. I have to filter stuff out fast, because otherwise I never find the stuff I actually like.
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71 dB

Quote from: 71 dB on October 27, 2023, 09:47:50 AMThanks, but in 13 minutes starts Snooker on tv. At some point I may look into Michael Hedges.

I managed to listen the whole album on Spotify. Good stuff! Quality guitar New Age. Perhaps not an album I particularly "need" in my collection, but definitely enjoyable music!
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Quote from: 71 dB on October 28, 2023, 03:59:35 AMI managed to listen the whole album on Spotify. Good stuff! Quality guitar New Age. Perhaps not an album I particularly "need" in my collection, but definitely enjoyable music!

When I recall old Windham Hill albums, this one comes to mind first.

71 dB

I'm trying to find more info about the forthcoming Maureen McGovern CD release.

www.cduniverse.com has this listed and the label releasing this is Classics. Catalogue number is 4194.

There are many labels named Classics (what a stupid generic name  ::)  ) releasing older music. One of them is a French label releasing old Jazz. I also found a Swedish label form Uddevalla named Classics releasing teenager cruising rockabilly music. :D  Both of these are of course wrong labels. Obviously this is an American label, but I have yet to find it...
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Quote from: KevinP on October 26, 2023, 05:28:38 PMHow about some War?




I suppose Gwar wouldn't fit in this thread, except for fat-fingered, myopic typists as myself. ;D
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Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: 71 dB on October 28, 2023, 06:02:37 AMI'm trying to find more info about the forthcoming Maureen McGovern CD release.

www.cduniverse.com has this listed and the label releasing this is Classics. Catalogue number is 4194.

There are many labels named Classics (what a stupid generic name  ::)  ) releasing older music. One of them is a French label releasing old Jazz. I also found a Swedish label form Uddevalla named Classics releasing teenager cruising rockabilly music. :D  Both of these are of course wrong labels. Obviously this is an American label, but I have yet to find it...
Boy, I must admit that the only song that I can think of hearing of hers is "The Morning After"; not certain how high it ranked in the charts in the US, but I do recall hearing it fairly often during one period of time.  :-[

Which of her songs are you particularly fond of 71?

PD

Pohjolas Daughter

Quote from: AnotherSpin on October 28, 2023, 05:30:23 AMWhen I recall old Windham Hill albums, this one comes to mind first.
I remember (many years ago) going to a Mannheim Steamroller concert; perhaps 71 might like some of their music?  Or maybe Paul Winter (don't know his music well, so I can't give specific recommendations).

Trying to recall which Windham Hill artists that I've heard their music as it's been ages.

PD


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Quote from: Pohjolas Daughter on October 29, 2023, 12:05:19 PMBoy, I must admit that the only song that I can think of hearing of hers is "The Morning After"; not certain how high it ranked in the charts in the US, but I do recall hearing it fairly often during one period of time.  :-[

Which of her songs are you particularly fond of 71?

PD

"The Morning After" which is performed in the X-Files episode "Nothing Lasts Forever" got me interested of this artist. Listening to her early albums is challenging for reasons told. Hard to say which songs I like the most at this point, but her later stuff doesn't seem to be to my liking...

At the moment I am going through the albums of The Carpenters on Spotify. I kind of "liked" some of their songs in my youth, but never explored them properly. Now in the depressing 2020's their sunshine pop is most welcome sound. Even their albums aren't easy (read cheap) to get on CD, but at least they are on CD! I am a bit annoyed these old bands have tons of "best of" CDs while the albums are badly available. I can't understand why there aren't 5 CD boxset "Original Album Classics" for The Carpenters. So weird.


Maybe I have to change my attitude and not expect everything to be easily available. In the coming weeks there should be more info about the CD release and I can make my final decision to purchase it - or pass...
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
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Quote from: 71 dB on October 29, 2023, 12:26:57 PM"The Morning After" which is performed in the X-Files episode "Nothing Lasts Forever" got me interested of this artist. Listening to her early albums is challenging for reasons told. Hard to say which songs I like the most at this point, but her later stuff doesn't seem to be to my liking...

At the moment I am going through the albums of The Carpenters on Spotify. I kind of "liked" some of their songs in my youth, but never explored them properly. Now in the depressing 2020's their sunshine pop is most welcome sound. Even their albums aren't easy (read cheap) to get on CD, but at least they are on CD! I am a bit annoyed these old bands have tons of "best of" CDs while the albums are badly available. I can't understand why there aren't 5 CD boxset "Original Album Classics" for The Carpenters. So weird.


Maybe I have to change my attitude and not expect everything to be easily available. In the coming weeks there should be more info about the CD release and I can make my final decision to purchase it - or pass...
I did enjoy their music growing up and have found a few of their albums used....such talented siblings.  I remember learning of Karen's death:  first time that I had ever heard of anorexia nervosa.  I suspect that it was an eye opener to many other people too.  Such a heart-wrenching story.  :'(

PD