You can throw away all of your Liszt recordings.

Started by Josquin des Prez, November 29, 2007, 06:15:22 PM

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Josquin des Prez

The messiah is finally here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQ4jL84COc&feature=related

Also, Horowitz was a total fraud. You heard it folks, Hatto was nothing compared to this.

not edward

And then you can throw out the Kastle with the bathwater, because this is the real deal!

http://www.youtube.com/v/tWvYtfOOjhM
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

Josquin des Prez



Josquin des Prez

BTW, why do people keep comparing those type of antics to Liszt? From all accounts his piano playing was nothing like this. Wasn't it Clara Schumann who compared him to a ghost?

not edward

Quote from: George on November 29, 2007, 06:26:49 PM
who is that edward?
Some guy named Neill Eisenstein. I have no idea if he performs music as well.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

George


not edward

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Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 29, 2007, 06:29:30 PM
BTW, why do people keep comparing those type of antics to Liszt? From all accounts his piano playing was nothing like this. Wasn't it Clara Schumann who compared him to a ghost?
It gives a quick laugh when talking to those who know less than they pretend to.

It's quite instructive to read second-hand reports of Bartok's pianism (constantly referring to him battering the piano into submission) and then compare them to his surviving recordings, which show a pianist with a sensitive, delicate touch.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

marvinbrown

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 29, 2007, 06:15:22 PM
The messiah is finally here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlQ4jL84COc&feature=related

Also, Horowitz was a total fraud. You heard it folks, Hatto was nothing compared to this.

  Probably the most interesting youtube link I have seen in a very long time Josquin, however did you find it?  Another question though, is he saying that technically that 2nd Hungarian Rhapsody finale can not be performed or is he just having a laugh??  I think it is the latter!

   marvin

George

Quote from: marvinbrown on November 30, 2007, 09:16:57 AM
  Probably the most interesting youtube link I have seen in a very long time Josquin, however did you find it?  Another question though, is he saying that technically that 2nd Hungarian Rhapsody finale can not be performed or is he just having a laugh??  I think it is the latter!

   marvin

Right, and who is the second dude in the video? Certainly not the pianist?

Josquin des Prez

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Quote from: marvinbrown on November 30, 2007, 09:16:57 AM
  Probably the most interesting youtube link I have seen in a very long time Josquin, however did you find it?  Another question though, is he saying that technically that 2nd Hungarian Rhapsody finale can not be performed or is he just having a laugh??  I think it is the latter!

   marvin

He's saying that he's the only one who's playing it right, and that all other pianists have just been faking during this passage. Since this is the most physically demanding piano piece ever written (remember the Tom and Jerry cartoon? Nuff said), that would intrinsically make him the greatest piano virtuoso of all time, the first and only heir to Liszt.

Brian

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 30, 2007, 01:00:37 PMthe first and only heir to Liszt.
I think Gyorgy Cziffra, Arnaldo Cohen, Kemal Gekic, and Jeno Jando have a right to be angry about this one.  ;D

Josquin des Prez

BTW, did i mention that Horowitz coming back from retirement is a fraud?

MishaK

Quote from: brianrein on November 30, 2007, 01:07:07 PM
I think Gyorgy Cziffra, Arnaldo Cohen, Kemal Gekic, and Jeno Jando have a right to be angry about this one.  ;D

Not to mention ABM, whom Cortot called "a new Liszt".

Rod Corkin

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on November 30, 2007, 01:00:37 PM
Since this is the most physically demanding piano piece ever written (remember the Tom and Jerry cartoon? Nuff said), that would intrinsically make him the greatest piano virtuoso of all time, the first and only heir to Liszt.

I would like to take issue with this point, it assumes the benchmark for superiority is the ability to play difficult passages of Liszt. I beg to differ!  ;)
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Josquin des Prez

^ But, did you see the Tom and Jerry sketch? THAT is the only benchmark everybody needs.

Plus, you can tell from the leather that he's a real rebel, not like those stuffy classical musicians, that means he's the real deal.