Mahler Mania, Rebooted

[Luke]

Yes, it is, the Third Symphony. Nice, isn't it!

[Sergeant Rock]

at 2:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGBHmKokL8#at=135

What piece is this?

Mahler, Third Symphony, fourth movement, Sehr langsam, Misterioso. The mezzo sings, O Mensch! Gib Acht! Was spricht die tiefe Mitternacht?, words from a poem by Nietzsche.

Sarge

[Papy Oli]

New release on MDT - no info on content though....

24/05/10
£34.50

[karlhenning]

New release on MDT - no info on content though....

24/05/10
£34.50

At your service.

[Papy Oli]

At your service.

thanks Karl  0:)

[karlhenning]

Wow, early '70s Chicago Symphony playing the First? . . .

[Papy Oli]

MAHLER Symphony No. 2. Natalie Dessay, Alice Coote, Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra / Paavo Jarvi. Virgin 2cds

to be released 10/05/2010.

[Sergeant Rock]

New release on MDT - no info on content though....

24/05/10
£34.50

And another complete edition, from DG, for an absurdly low price at amazon.de



Contents here


Sarge

[DarkAngel]

  vs 

When comparing these two I would say the DG boxset is stronger overall set of performances........
DG had bigger catalog (DG, Decca, Phillips) to pick best versions from

A good way to "sample" Mahler, I think I already have 90% of all these already in sets or individual issues so I am not a potential buyer

[Sergeant Rock]

When comparing these two I would say the DG boxset is stronger overall set of performances........
DG had bigger catalog (DG, Decca, Phillips) to pick best versions from

A good way to "sample" Mahler, I think I already have 90% of all these already in sets or individual issues so I am not a potential buyer

I agree the DG box is more attractive (although there are some classic gems in the EMI box too). DG's choices for the symphonies include some my favorites (excepting Abbado's Sixth). But, like you, I already have most of it (missing the Giulini DLVDE and Chailly Tenth).

Sarge

[karlhenning]

I agree the DG box is more attractive (although there are some classic gems in the EMI box too).

Nice to see that the mania abateth not ; )

[Sergeant Rock]

Nice to see that the mania abateth not ; )

It won't this year, or next...but some relief might come in 2012 

Sarge

[jlaurson]

Mahler News


forgot to mention: Honeck & Pittsburg are planning to record a whole Mahler Cycle for Exton.

1st already exists, 4th is being edited, 3rd will be recorded in June. Cycle projected over next five, six years.

[jlaurson]

Reviewed, Not Necessarily Recommended: Mahler's Miscellaneous Movements
http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2010/04/reviewed-not-necessarily-recommended_30.html

Mahler, 4 Movements,
P.Järvi / Frankfurt RSO
Virgin Classics

[Marc]

In 1995, there was a large Mahler Fest in Amsterdam, because it was 75 years after the first Mahler Fest that was organized by Willem Mengelberg in 1920 .... a rarity in those days.

In 1996, the Dutch telly broadcasted a documentary about Mahler: Conducting Mahler, where the conductors who acted at the 1995 Mahler Fest talked about how to capture Mahler's intentions. You can see and hear Chailly, Muti, Abbado, Rattle & Haitink, also in a lot of rehearsal moments with the Wiener Phil, Berliner Phil and the Concertgebouw Orchestra.

Here are links to the documentary (really one of my personal faves btw ) .... with Dutch subtitles, but the main language is English (with some German & Dutch exceptions).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAVi7W2y-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxBtgr_yb6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbV3UK_7O9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ztjg8dub0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0vKn8fGeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0K0ndbAbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_dAgPLkAk

[Opus106]

In 1995, there was a large Mahler Fest in Amsterdam, because it was 75 years after the first Mahler Fest that was organized by Willem Mengelberg in 1920 .... a rarity in those days.

In 1996, the Dutch telly broadcasted a documentary about Mahler: Conducting Mahler, where the conductors who acted at the 1995 Mahler Fest talked about how to capture Mahler's intentions. You can see and hear Chailly, Muti, Abbado, Rattle & Haitink, also in a lot of rehearsal moments with the Wiener Phil, Berliner Phil and the Concertgebouw Orchestra.

Here are links to the documentary (really one of my personal faves btw ) .... with Dutch subtitles, but the main language is English (with some German & Dutch exceptions).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTAVi7W2y-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxBtgr_yb6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbV3UK_7O9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4ztjg8dub0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0vKn8fGeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0K0ndbAbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_dAgPLkAk

Now that you mention it, I think I just might have listened to the "incomplete 10th" once (but I still don't remember a note of it!), because those Mahler Feest performances were my introduction to Mahler's works apart from the second symphony*. It contains every major work of his (symphonies and lieder), with the 10th performed by Haitink and GMJ.



*Edit: To be fair, performances from other occasions were actually responsible for introducing me to his first and sixth, also.

[Marc]

Now that you mention it, I think I just might have listened to the "incomplete 10th" once (but I still don't remember a note of it!), because those Mahler Feest performances were my introduction to Mahler's works apart from the second symphony*. It contains every major work of his (symphonies and lieder), with the 10th performed by Haitink and GMJ.

*Edit: To be fair, performances from other occasions were actually responsible for introducing me to his first and sixth, also.

So, you actually went to the 'Gebouw' and saw and heard those performances in concert? If so, I really envy you!
(Or did you watch the large screen in the ridge tent?)

Mahler in Amsterdam is always something special, because Mengelberg and his orchestra embraced Mahler's music from the first moment on. And Mahler never disappeared there .... only during the war, when unfortunately Mengelberg accepted without many protests every Nazi theory about Jews and Entartete Musik.

I once walked those famous conductor stairs, because our seats were behind the orchestra, and my heart was really pounding: man, all those great men (and women! All right, Stan, AND WOMEN!) who walked this way up and down, Mahler included! After that walk, we had a great chat with the first trumpet player and then we heard a great performance of Mahler's Fifth by the Minnesota Orchestra & Osmo Vänskä.

[Opus106]

So, you actually went to the 'Gebouw' and saw and heard those performances in concert? If so, I really envy you!
(Or did you watch the large screen in the ridge tent?)

Haha! Not at all, my friend... I have never seen an orchestra-proper perform live in concert. I was referring to a collection of MP3 files.

I just watched the first video from the documentary and I can completely sympathise with Simon Rattle about how he felt after listening to the second, which, co-incidentally, was also my introduction to Mahler.

[Marc]

Haha! Not at all, my friend... I have never seen an orchestra-proper perform live in concert. I was referring to a collection of MP3 files.

I just watched the first video from the documentary and I can completely sympathise with Simon Rattle about how he felt after listening to the second, which, co-incidentally, was also my introduction to Mahler.

My introductions were the First and Fourth, on vinyl (Haitink/Concertgebouw). But yes, the first time I heard the 2nd, especially the first movement, Urlicht and the closing stages of the Finale, I somehow sensed I would be hooked for life!

[EDIT: forgot to mention the third movement (the 'Fischpredigt'), with its poignant rhythms. I remember thinking when I first listened to Scherzi by Shostakovich: Dmitry knew his Mahler! ]

[Sergeant Rock]

I just watched the first video from the documentary and I can completely sympathise with Simon Rattle about how he felt after listening to the second, which, co-incidentally, was also my introduction to Mahler.

The Second was my first Mahler too: a library copy of the Klemperer studio performance. The library didn't have any more Mahler. I heard my next Mahler on the radio: the Fifth, a New York Phil concert (I assume Lenny was conducting). Next I heard the Sixth live in Cleveland, conducted by Szell. At that point I was truly hooked. I was 18.

Sarge