Mahler Mania, Rebooted

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The new erato

Quote from: DarkAngel on August 14, 2010, 05:15:29 PM


This is the best Mahler disc you can buy today.............
Sure looks painful with that bow in the eye!

jlaurson


MDL

Quote from: jlaurson on September 05, 2010, 12:54:05 AM
another attempt at getting the People's Mahler Edition right.



Make the People's Mahler Interesting
http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=2282


That's a great article, and I'm with you about Kubelik's 3 and 5. I'm not sure about Solti's 6, which I really enjoy but in a Rite of Spring kind of way, rather than a Mahler 6 kind of way. And who the hell is voting for Karajan in 4? Give me Maazel, Chailly, Kubelik... anyone else, really.

And I'm going to have to dig around the murkier corners of GMG to find out what you've got against Solti's 8!

jlaurson

Quote from: MDL on September 05, 2010, 04:04:08 AM
That's a great article, and I'm with you about Kubelik's 3 and 5. I'm not sure about Solti's 6, which I really enjoy but in a Rite of Spring kind of way, rather than a Mahler 6 kind of way. And who the hell is voting for Karajan in 4? Give me Maazel, Chailly, Kubelik... anyone else, really.

And I'm going to have to dig around the murkier corners of GMG to find out what you've got against Solti's 8!

No need to dig much...

http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/07/alles-vergngliche-ozawas-mahler-eighth.html
http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=1375
http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=1382
http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/07/live-recordings-of-mahlers-eighth.html


MDL

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Quote from: jlaurson on September 05, 2010, 04:20:15 AM
No need to dig much...

http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2006/07/alles-vergngliche-ozawas-mahler-eighth.html
http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=1375
http://www.weta.org/fmblog/?p=1382
http://ionarts.blogspot.com/2005/07/live-recordings-of-mahlers-eighth.html

Blimey, you've been busy! I'm going to have to reread these because my head is spinning with all the detail.

Although I've got umpteen recordings of the 8th (Tennstedt, Solti, Kubelik DG, Haitink, Bernstein Sony, Davis, Sinopoli, Rattle, Bertini), I've never been able to make up my mind which one/ones I prefer, whereas I'd have no problems listing my top five recordings of, say, 2, 6 and 9. Based on your recommendations, I'm going to give Sinopoli another whirl. Tennstedt was my first Mahler 8, so not surprisingly, I tend to think of that as being my favourite. Having said that, I need to dig out Bernstein's Sony recording which blew me away a few years ago. Critics seem to have been unanimously impressed by Bertini's Cologne recording, which I really enjoyed last time I played it.

Anyway, Mr Laurson, I'm going to search out the Ozawa online. Based on what you've said, I've got to hear this one.

Thanks again.

Drasko

Well my friends, if you even had any doubts before now it's official: we are not The People.

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/NR_November10/4779260.htm

To be honest I can't quite remember all of my choices from back then, but I'm pretty positive it was none of these (except Chailly 10, which was more or less by default).


DavidRoss

1, 2, 5, & 10 are good choices.  No DLVDE! At the price--$35 for 13 discs--it looks like a great bargain for Mahler noobs.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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DavidW

Those are some of my favorite recordings, and I don't own them anymore so I'm very pleased and will order this set. :)

The new erato

Quote from: DavidW on October 06, 2010, 07:05:50 AM
Those are some of my favorite recordings, and I don't own them anymore so I'm very pleased and will order this set. :)
And as a bonus you will find my real name in the booklet!

DavidW

Wait, really?  Well it is so long before it comes out that it will arrive someday in January and I'll forget that I had pre-ordered it in October! :D

DarkAngel

Quote from: DavidRoss on October 06, 2010, 05:58:56 AM
1, 2, 5, & 10 are good choices.  No DLVDE! At the price--$35 for 13 discs--it looks like a great bargain for Mahler noobs.

I was only surprised by two "peoples" choices:

Mahler 4 - Karajan ?
Mahler 9 - Giulini ?

DarkAngel

#1691


The latest Abbado Lucerne DVD - Mahler 1st is another great entry in his almost complete Mahler DVD set (waiting for 8th) performance sound image all very good

The big bonus is Prokofiev 3rd piano concerto by Yuja Wang (unknown to me) really impressed me greatly, much better than I expected...

Scarpia

Quote from: DarkAngel on October 07, 2010, 11:08:52 AM

I was only surprised by two "peoples" choices:

Mahler 4 - Karajan ?
Mahler 9 - Giulini ?

I have the Karajan 4 on a late 80's CD and I think it is weak.  The Giulini 9 is supposed to be miraculous, I haven't heard it.  A shame that no oddball recordings were picked. 

DarkAngel

Quote from: Scarpia on October 07, 2010, 11:47:40 AM
I have the Karajan 4 on a late 80's CD and I think it is weak.  The Giulini 9 is supposed to be miraculous, I haven't heard it.  A shame that no oddball recordings were picked.

I would have been less surprised if "people" selected the Karajan 9 (not 4)

Gustav Mahler: Symphonie No. 9

Scarpia

Quote from: DarkAngel on October 07, 2010, 12:40:16 PM

I would have been less surprised if "people" selected the Karajan 9 (not 4)

Gustav Mahler: Symphonie No. 9

I don't like that one, and prefer his studio recording. 

DarkAngel

Quote from: Scarpia on October 07, 2010, 12:48:42 PM
I don't like that one, and prefer his studio recording.

I heard somewhere that after the success of Bernstein 9 with BPO, HVK wanted to have another go at it resulting in the live Karajan 9 recording.......

Mahler: Symphony No.9  Gustav Mahler: Symphonie No. 9

Scarpia

Quote from: DarkAngel on October 07, 2010, 01:43:38 PM

I heard somewhere that after the success of Bernstein 9 with BPO, HVK wanted to have another go at it resulting in the live Karajan 9 recording.......

Mahler: Symphony No.9  Gustav Mahler: Symphonie No. 9

Hard to reconcile that theory with the fact that both Karajan's live and studio recordings were made after Bernstein's recording.

greg


DavidW

Quote from: Scarpia on October 07, 2010, 11:47:40 AM
I have the Karajan 4 on a late 80's CD and I think it is weak.  The Giulini 9 is supposed to be miraculous, I haven't heard it.  A shame that no oddball recordings were picked.

The Giulini 9 is great.  I don't think that DG has any great 4ths.  Boulez might have been a better choice.  The Bernstein is probably not because I'm like the only person that likes that recording! :D

Brian

Quote from: DavidRoss on October 06, 2010, 05:58:56 AM
1, 2, 5, & 10 are good choices.  No DLVDE! At the price--$35 for 13 discs--it looks like a great bargain for Mahler noobs.

Should the People's Box figure into my "first Mahler cycle" shopping considerations? It is at pretty much exactly the same price as Bertini and Tennstedt. Currently my guess is Bertini makes the best intro...?