Mahler Mania, Rebooted

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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Cato on October 12, 2011, 06:23:39 PM

Yes!  The jaunty march from the First Movement of Mahler's Third Symphony had appeared in my mental ear to accompany my steps through the misty moisty flora!   8)

Has anything similar happened to you?

I live near the Rhine. Whenever I cross the Rheinbrücke in Worms, the second movement of Schumann's Third ("Rhenish") pops into my head. It's automatic and it's been happening for twenty years.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Cato

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 14, 2011, 03:06:51 AM
I live near the Rhine. Whenever I cross the Rheinbrücke in Worms, the second movement of Schumann's Third ("Rhenish") pops into my head. It's automatic and it's been happening for twenty years.

Sarge

Very appropriate! 

The opening march of Mahler's Sixth Symphony was storming through me earlier...for a very good reason stemming from the indolence and ennui of my colleagues!
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ibanezmonster

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 14, 2011, 03:00:28 AM
No, Weber doesn't sound like this. This part of the reconstruction is almost entirely Mahler.

Sarge
oh, hmmm that kinda sucks  :-\

DavidRoss

Quote from: Cato on October 14, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
Very appropriate! 

The opening march of Mahler's Sixth Symphony was storming through me earlier...for a very good reason stemming from the indolence and ennui of my colleagues!
Not the opening of Holst's Mars

BTW, I made a ring tone of the 6th's opening bars for my cell phone.  It lets me know when my wife is calling. ;)
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Opus106

QuoteThe next release, planned for December, will feature Sarah Connolly performing Mahler’s 'Totenfeier' and 'Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen' with the OAE under Vladimir Jurowski.

Yikes!!!

That's from Signum Classics, by the way.
Regards,
Navneeth

madaboutmahler

About time I joined this topic, Mahler being my absolute favourite composer! (hence username! ;) )
I connect with Mahler more than with any other composer, so much is expressed is his music to the highest degree possible!
I love all his symphonies - although my absolute two favourites would be no.6 and no.9, these two pieces are my absolute favourite pieces of all time.

So I was rather excited to see the release of a new recording of no.6 from Pappano and his excellent orchestra in Saint Cecilia. This is a favourite combination of mine in terms of performers. However, I have never heard Pappano in Mahler before, can anyone tell me what he is like?
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As well as the Pappano, there is also the new Salonen recording I am looking forward to hearing soon. Anyone else excited about these new recordings? :)

Well, looking forward to sharing my love of Mahler with all of you!
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

jlaurson

Quote from: madaboutmahler on October 25, 2011, 05:41:40 AM

So I was rather excited to see the release of a new recording of no.6 from Pappano and his excellent orchestra in Saint Cecilia. This is a favourite combination of mine in terms of performers. However, I have never heard Pappano in Mahler before, can anyone tell me what he is like?

As well as the Pappano, there is also the new Salonen recording I am looking forward to hearing soon. Anyone else excited about these new recordings? :)

Well, looking forward to sharing my love of Mahler with all of you!

I've briefly mentioned my response to Salonen 6th, but at least I agree with you that he's always a conductor, not just in Mahler, to always look forward to.

But how, why on earth would Pappano and Santa Cecilia be favorite performers of yours (or anyone, for that matter)??? What have they ever done that was exciting?
On record or live, I have never found them more, but occasionally well less than serviceable. And in Mahler, of all composers? Live? I can't imagine that this wasn't a
stipulation of Pappano for his EMI work that EMI only published because the RAI master cost them nothing.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: jlaurson on October 25, 2011, 05:50:53 AM
I've briefly mentioned my response to Salonen 6th, but at least I agree with you that he's always a conductor, not just in Mahler, to always look forward to.

But how, why on earth would Pappano and Santa Cecilia be favorite performers of yours (or anyone, for that matter)??? What have they ever done that was exciting?
On record or live, I have never found them more, but occasionally well less than serviceable. And in Mahler, of all composers? Live? I can't imagine that this wasn't a
stipulation of Pappano for his EMI work that EMI only published because the RAI master cost them nothing.

Yes, I remember reading about your disappointment in the Salonen Mahler 6, I'm going to give it a go though.

Hmmm... maybe 'favourite performers' was a little bit of an exaggeration... ;) My favourite combination would be Berlin Phil/Rattle probably, who I really hope would release some more Mahler recordings together!
But Pappano and that orchestra have made quite a few good recordings - such as the Tchaikovsky and Respighi recordings. These probably would not be a first choice for me anyway though...
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

DavidRoss

Oh, boy!  Another new Mahler disc to hear, always in hopes of finding something wonderful that lets me hear it in a new way.  On the other hand, I already have so many Mahler recordings that trying to do even a modest comparative listening survey is proving rather daunting!  (It would be easier if so many of them weren't so good!)
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

madaboutmahler

Quote from: DavidRoss on October 25, 2011, 06:41:34 AM
Oh, boy!  Another new Mahler disc to hear, always in hopes of finding something wonderful that lets me hear it in a new way.  On the other hand, I already have so many Mahler recordings that trying to do even a modest comparative listening survey is proving rather daunting!  (It would be easier if so many of them weren't so good!)

haha :) There have certainly been many recent Mahler recordings released! Out of some of the most recent recordings, I still have a lot of the Nott, Jurowski, Zinman and Tilson Thomas to listen to! It's going to take a lot to beat my old favourites of Solti, Chailly, Sinopoli and Bernstein though!
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Opus106

Quote from: Opus106 on October 21, 2011, 10:16:17 AM
QuoteThe next release, planned for December, will feature Sarah Connolly performing Mahler's 'Totenfeier' and 'Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen' with the OAE under Vladimir Jurowski.

Yikes!!!

That's from Signum Classics, by the way.

Okay, I'll spell it out for you guys: Mahler to be played by an PI orchestra who specialise in Bach and Mozart!
Regards,
Navneeth

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Opus106 on October 25, 2011, 07:23:47 AM
Yikes!!!

That's from Signum Classics, by the way.


Okay, I'll spell it out for you guys: Mahler to be played by an PI orchestra who specialise in Bach and Mozart!

I'm seeing that orchestra in a concert of French impressionist music conducted by Rattle next year! Surely that's as different to their normal repetoire! Just goes to show they don't just do baroque/classical... not sure what the sound will be like though...
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Opus106

Quote from: madaboutmahler on October 25, 2011, 07:31:23 AM
I'm seeing that orchestra in a concert of French impressionist music conducted by Rattle next year!

That's interesting. I wonder, if the programme has been planned over a year in advance, they must have had some success in doing this, dare I say, anachronistic business, yet I haven't seen a word written about this. (Not that I read read every review out there, but it should have caused at least a slight stir. ::))

Quotenot sure what the sound will be like though...

That's what I'm curious about. We have already seen how some people have reacted to Norrington's Mahler, but now this will probably be (for them) taking things too far (or long ago ;)).
Regards,
Navneeth

Lisztianwagner

Hmmm, wonderful thread, Mahler was a genius  :)
Gustav Mahler is surely one of my favourite composers of all time; his music is extremely beautiful, overwhelming and thrilling, inspired by deep and intense feelings, it can always touch my heart so much!
I really love how Mahler moves the tonal language till the limits of its possibilities, with the brilliant use of a big orchestration, so to create such a powerful and involving music.
I especially adore the Symphonies, but also Das Lied von der Erde, Des Knaben Wunderhorn and Das Klagende Lied are very stunning.
What a pity Karajan, my absolute favourite conductor, never recorded all Mahler's symphonies.......
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Bulldog

Quote from: jlaurson on October 25, 2011, 05:50:53 AM
But how, why on earth would Pappano and Santa Cecilia be favorite performers of yours (or anyone, for that matter)??? What have they ever done that was exciting?
On record or live, I have never found them more, but occasionally well less than serviceable. And in Mahler, of all composers? Live? I can't imagine that this wasn't a
stipulation of Pappano for his EMI work that EMI only published because the RAI master cost them nothing.

I don't have any Pappano recordings; his repertoire hasn't been enticing to me.  However, I'm aware of the praise he's received from many reviewers for recordings such as his Rossini Stabat Mater and the Verdi Requiem.  Mahler's 6th does entice me, so I'm likely to acquire this disc.

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 01, 2011, 09:27:48 AM
Hmmm, wonderful thread, Mahler was a genius  :)
Gustav Mahler is surely one of my favourite composers of all time; his music is extremely beautiful, overwhelming and thrilling, inspired by deep and intense feelings, it can always touch my heart so much!
I really love how Mahler moves the tonal language till the limits of its possibilities, with the brilliant use of a big orchestration, so to create such a powerful and involving music.
I especially adore the Symphonies, but also Das Lied von der Erde, Des Knaben Wunderhorn and Das Klagende Lied are very stunning.
What a pity Karajan, my absolute favourite conductor, never recorded all Mahler's symphonies.......

Hello Ilaria! :)

Obviously I agree with everything you say! :)
I agree, I which Karajan had recorded more Mahler!

Quote from: Bulldog on November 01, 2011, 09:36:45 AM
I don't have any Pappano recordings; his repertoire hasn't been enticing to me.  However, I'm aware of the praise he's received from many reviewers for recordings such as his Rossini Stabat Mater and the Verdi Requiem.  Mahler's 6th does entice me, so I'm likely to acquire this disc.
A lot of his repetoire in concert is very exciting, but not always his recording repetoire, at least for me! Obviously Mahler 6, being my favourite piece of all time, does entice me as well! So am very interested in it! :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: madaboutmahler on October 25, 2011, 05:41:40 AM

So I was rather excited to see the release of a new recording of no.6 from Pappano and his excellent orchestra in Saint Cecilia. This is a favourite combination of mine in terms of performers. However, I have never heard Pappano in Mahler before, can anyone tell me what he is like?
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I listened to Pappano's recording; it's certainly as passionate and powerful as I expect for Mahler's music, but the rythm isn't fast enough I think, a bit too slow.....
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 01, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
I listened to Pappano's recording; it's certainly as passionate and powerful as I expect for Mahler's music, but the rythm isn't fast enough I think, a bit too slow.....

Thank you for your opinion - do you think it is still worth buying? Still not released in the UK yet, I don't think, so have a bit of time to decide! :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: madaboutmahler on November 01, 2011, 10:43:42 AM
Thank you for your opinion - do you think it is still worth buying? Still not released in the UK yet, I don't think, so have a bit of time to decide! :)

Well, I personally prefer other recordings, but of course it could be worth buying, why not? :) Anyway I suggest you to have a listen to it before purchasing, so you could judge better  :)
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on November 01, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
Well, I personally prefer other recordings, but of course it could be worth buying, why not? :) Anyway I suggest you to have a listen to it before purchasing, so you could judge better  :)

Thank you Ilaria. :)
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven