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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1800 on: October 19, 2020, 04:50:52 AM »
To me the point is, that all these things a piano can do, and a harpsichord can't, largely are irrelevant to the music.

Maybe, according to your preference.  But I enjoy hearing Bach played on a piano since the music comes alive in a way that for me remains stiffer, and more strident, played on a harpsichord.  However, I sampled the WTC by George Lepauw and turned it off during the first fugue.  Way too "romantic" for my taste.

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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1801 on: October 19, 2020, 05:10:54 AM »
Maybe, according to your preference.  But I enjoy hearing Bach played on a piano since the music comes alive in a way that for me remains stiffer, and more strident, played on a harpsichord.  However, I sampled the WTC by George Lepauw and turned it off during the first fugue.  Way too "romantic" for my taste.
he doesn’t just stick with dynamics though, and he doesn’t manically (or maniacally) blur the lines like Lim. A lot of what he does seems to be finding drama by using rubato. Sometimes it does sound romantic perhaps, I don’t know. It’s certainly not mainstream and doesn’t remind me of anyone else in particular.
Anyway, I’m listening to Frédérick Haas at the moment and it just blows everything away. The A-minor prelude And fugue in Bk2 is a trip. Haas is brilliant and the instrument is superb.
 There are just so many great harpsichord renditions now, some having come out in the last decade.

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« Reply #1802 on: October 19, 2020, 05:25:31 AM »

Anyway, I’m listening to Frédérick Haas at the moment and it just blows everything away. The A-minor prelude And fugue in Bk2 is a trip. Haas is brilliant and the instrument is superb.
 There are just so many great harpsichord renditions now, some having come out in the last decade.

Yes, I recently had some great hours with Frederick Haas' book II and his Goldberg variations, which are even better.
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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1803 on: October 25, 2020, 08:54:31 AM »
Are these performances too subtle for me? I love the sound of the instrument, warm and with plenty of lovely color. I found the performances to put it in a polite way a bit characterless. I thought his use of ornamentation was a bit stingy, you'll go many pieces with very few then he'll use quite a bit in a single prelude or fugue.

Since I don't post on harpsichord much for frame of reference my two favorites in Book 1 are Kenneth Gilbert and Celine Frisch.


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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1804 on: October 26, 2020, 07:18:45 AM »
Are these performances too subtle for me? I love the sound of the instrument, warm and with plenty of lovely color. I found the performances to put it in a polite way a bit characterless. I thought his use of ornamentation was a bit stingy, you'll go many pieces with very few then he'll use quite a bit in a single prelude or fugue.

Since I don't post on harpsichord much for frame of reference my two favorites in Book 1 are Kenneth Gilbert and Celine Frisch.



Thank you for the heads up on this recording, as I love the sound of a softer Harpischord with plenty of nuances in the timbre. Also, Kenneth Gilbert is reference for me too. Celine Frisch's Rambeau blows the mind!

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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1805 on: October 26, 2020, 07:23:55 AM »
here’s something. This recording is a bit strange and I don’t quite know what to make of it. Very fast tempos and  - just - out-of-the-ordinary choices. It might just be flying too fast, over my head.

The Butt WTC sounds like something I've been looking for - I want a WTC that is fast, or isn't slow in any of the preludes/fugue - I'm so glad I heard about this.

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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1806 on: October 26, 2020, 02:09:07 PM »
The Butt WTC sounds like something I've been looking for - I want a WTC that is fast, or isn't slow in any of the preludes/fugue - I'm so glad I heard about this.

I’m curious if you enjoy it or not. I have to be pushed to try it again. It’s Quite extreme.

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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1807 on: October 26, 2020, 02:17:30 PM »
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Rübsam once said to me that he though that Robert Hill played with completely independent voices, I never really understood it but then I just came across this performance of BWV 888 from WTC2, and maybe Rübsam was right.
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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1808 on: October 26, 2020, 02:18:01 PM »

I’m curious if you enjoy it or not. I have to be pushed to try it again. It’s Quite extreme.

It is absolutely abysmal.
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Re: Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier
« Reply #1809 on: October 26, 2020, 03:15:00 PM »
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/x2UL4OTn0KU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/x2UL4OTn0KU</a>

Rübsam once said to me that he though that Robert Hill played with completely independent voices, I never really understood it but then I just came across this performance of BWV 888 from WTC2, and maybe Rübsam was right.
that’s wonderful. Sorry, did he release a complete book? Sadly, I think not. How’s his AOF?