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Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« on: January 18, 2010, 05:13:25 PM »
Now, here is an interesting composer if you like Russian/Soviet composers.  Popov sadly drank himself to death having suffered years of neglect and condemnation at the hands of the soviet authorities (his music was condemned along with the music of his friend Shostakovich, Prokofiev, Miaskovsky, Shebalin, Kabalevsky and Khachaturian in 1948). His First Symphony (Telarc) is the only score I know which can hold up its head alongside Shostakovich's 4th Symphony (Vainberg's 5th is another possible contender). Popov's symphonies were once available on the defunct Olympia label and now are only around at more or less ridiculous prices (there was a great CD with symphonies 1 and 2 on). However, the Russian Northern Flowers label has just issued Popov's epic wartime Symphony 2 'Motherland', which whilst being more conformist than the phatasmagoric First Symphony, is both powerful and moving. If you like Shostakovich's 7th or 8th symphonies or Khachaturian's Symphony No 2 'The Bell', this might be for you. It is coupled with some high quality film music and the agitprop 'Red Cavalry Campaign: Symphonic poster for large orchestra and male chorus' from 1941.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 06:37:46 PM »
Sounds bloody fabulous.  Where did you get it?
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 07:24:49 PM »
Yes, and when are you going to upload it?  ;D

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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 07:27:22 PM »
Yes, and when are you going to upload it?  ;D

Yes, well, that was what I was hinting at too, but was far too polite to suggest.   :P 
Dear Hans Rott
In the 1980s there was a creative punk group called "Big Audio Dynamite".  I have decided to apply the term to you, my man.  And I still haven't properly finished your Screenplay yet.  Too bad.  Take care anyway old chum, I'm off to listen to Brahms!
Kind regards, John

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 07:29:13 PM »
Yes, well, that was what I was hinting at too, but was far too polite to suggest.   :P

Are you saying I'm not polite? How rude!  >:(

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 11:03:34 PM »
http://www.russiancdshop.com/ is reasonably cheap, quick and very dependable if you have a Paypal account.

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2010, 08:49:20 AM »
Sounds bloody fabulous.  Where did you get it?

MDT Mail Order in Derby.

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 09:01:33 AM »
I didn't really expect an upload, by the way.  ;D

But it sure wasn't on Amazon US: My usual online shopping stop.

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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2010, 09:38:03 PM »
Isn't he the "other" composer Shosty had a picture of on his mantle?



Also, I get get Popov's and Shebalin's String Quartet Cycles confused. Does anyone have The Goods here?

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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 04:35:32 AM »
Isn't he the "other" composer Shosty had a picture of on his mantle?



Also, I get get Popov's and Shebalin's String Quartet Cycles confused. Does anyone have The Goods here?

I think it was Shebalin.  Don't know how to do uploads anyway - took me months to work out how to include a picture with my posts.  Would be happy, if I knew how, to upload a movement from the Symphony.
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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 04:36:59 AM »
I didn't really expect an upload, by the way.  ;D

But it sure wasn't on Amazon US: My usual online shopping stop.

Here's a link.

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/Choice_Classical_Music_CDs_and_DVDs_Future_Releases/NFPMA9977.htm
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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 12:56:58 PM »
I love youtube!

Symphony No. 3:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/SVbl3jEYd-Y" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/SVbl3jEYd-Y</a>

or Symphony No. 1:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jpH8H-ZuI0g&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jpH8H-ZuI0g&amp;feature=related</a>

The rest is there to search
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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 01:35:08 PM »
A Northern Flowers sale on mdt now. I've got tons of stuff I absolutely need, mainly the Miaskovsky and Taneyev quartets (since Naxos presumedly complete Taneyev seems to have dried up with vo l1, they will loose my business).

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2011, 05:12:35 AM »
It looks like there is a new recording of Symphony No. 1 coming out next month on Northern Flowers. They have already released 1 and 2 (separate discs, each with extras), in reportedly good performances conducted by Titov, who also conducted the latest. I guess it would be stupid to hope that this will be part of a completed cycle....



(The picture links to Amazon, but the cover pic is from HMV.jp.)

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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2011, 05:22:58 AM »

I'll drink to that!

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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2011, 05:28:21 AM »
I love youtube!
Symphony No. 3:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/SVbl3jEYd-Y" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/SVbl3jEYd-Y</a>
or Symphony No. 1:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jpH8H-ZuI0g&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jpH8H-ZuI0g&amp;feature=related</a>
The rest is there to search

That Symphony One is bloody amazing...Olympia defunct?  Must find another means to get it...I really, really like what I've heard above.  Really. 
Dear Hans Rott
In the 1980s there was a creative punk group called "Big Audio Dynamite".  I have decided to apply the term to you, my man.  And I still haven't properly finished your Screenplay yet.  Too bad.  Take care anyway old chum, I'm off to listen to Brahms!
Kind regards, John

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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2011, 05:40:01 AM »
Popov's 4th Symphony for soloists, chorus and orchestra "Honour to the Motherland" of 1947 still awaits its first commercial recording.

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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2012, 12:38:09 PM »

Had a chance to hear this, and it's not competitive with the Olympia issue with Provatorov conducting. The orchestra feels as if it's struggling at times, and there simply isn't have anything like the intensity that Provatorov brings to the work--it's music written in blood and sweat, on a very well-judged knife-edge just short of falling into of total chaos, and I don't think the orchestra has the confidence (or, perhaps, sufficient rehearsal time) to bring this off here.

I hope someone will pick up the Olympia discs sooner rather than later--it's an extraordinary work that deserves wider currency.
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Re: Gavriil Popov 1904-1972
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2012, 01:16:46 AM »
Had a chance to hear this, and it's not competitive with the Olympia issue with Provatorov conducting. The orchestra feels as if it's struggling at times, and there simply isn't have anything like the intensity that Provatorov brings to the work--it's music written in blood and sweat, on a very well-judged knife-edge just short of falling into of total chaos, and I don't think the orchestra has the confidence (or, perhaps, sufficient rehearsal time) to bring this off here.

I hope someone will pick up the Olympia discs sooner rather than later--it's an extraordinary work that deserves wider currency.

Thank you Edward for posting this. I'm sorry that the new version of symphony No 1 is not that good - but at least you have saved me some money! I agree that the Olympia CD with symphonies 1 and 2 on is sensational - one of their best releases I think.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2012, 08:45:45 AM »
I must admit the reviews of those Northern Flowers cd's have put me off,although I suppose,dodgy playing didn't put me off buying the Marco Polo recordings of the lovely Tournemire symphonies! (Luckily,persistent searching & a spot of luck means that I eventually managed to collect all the superior Auvidis Valois performances! :))