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"Nervous" Composers
« on: February 01, 2010, 07:27:24 AM »
I have read recently about Mahler and Shostakovich writing "nervous" music, and I can hear that it's true; these dudes had some issues. Is it part of their appeal?

Which other composers were a bundle of neuroses?
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Re: "Nervous" Composers
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 07:34:56 AM »
I have read recently about Mahler and Shostakovich writing "nervous" music, and I can hear that it's true; these dudes had some issues. Is it part of their appeal?

Which other composers were a bundle of neuroses?

Why do you want to know?

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Re: "Nervous" Composers
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 07:37:15 AM »
Why do you want to know?

Why do you get out of bed in the morning?

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Re: "Nervous" Composers
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 07:38:42 AM »
Why do you get out of bed in the morning?

Because I get nervous in my dreams.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 07:42:47 AM »
Why do you get out of bed in the morning?

Why do you answer a question with a question?

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Re: "Nervous" Composers
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 07:43:40 AM »
Why do you answer a question with a question?

Because you did?

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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2010, 07:45:26 AM »
My Nervous Dreams

Franco

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 03:59:54 PM »
My Nervous Dreams
Is that a new Henning title...?

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Re: "Nervous" Composers
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 01:15:46 AM »
No, I didn't?

Is this a question merely because it ends with a question mark? Or is it a statement pretending to be a question? Or is it a question pretending to be a statement? And does the thrill of contemplating of such matters explain why I get out of bed in the morning? And if I were a composer, would I compose nervous music?

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 05:03:24 AM »
I have read recently about Mahler and Shostakovich writing "nervous" music, and I can hear that it's true; these dudes had some issues. Is it part of their appeal?

Which other composers were a bundle of neuroses?

Smetana's String Quartet No. 2 is very nervous.  It switches between periods of agitation and joy like a bipolar episode.  I read that he was going deaf at the time, and it was his musical description of his state of mind.  I think that's true.

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Re: "Nervous" Composers __ Shostakovich
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2015, 05:36:49 AM »
You'd be nervous, too, once Stalin's regime had taken an "interest" in you.
The Germans, who make doctrines out of everything, deal with music learnedly; the Italians, being voluptuous, seek in it lively, though fleeting, sensations; the French, more vain than perceptive, manage to speak of it wittily; and the English pay for it . . . - Stendhal

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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2015, 08:37:21 AM »
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Milford had a sad life. Although being of a highly sensitive and nervous nature he volunteered for the army as soon as the Second World War broke out (unlike Britten, who cleared off to America) where he was bullied and suffered a nervous breakdown and had to be invalided out. Then, his only child Barnaby was killed in a road traffic accident in 1941. Finally, after the deaths of his friends, Finzi and Vaughan Williams he committed suicide in 1959

Thanks to Vandermolen on the Milford thread

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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2015, 09:47:01 AM »
What about Tchaikovsky? I love his music - but his biography, as I recall it, contains more stressed and nervous pages than any other composer's.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2015, 03:22:09 PM »
I listened recently to the symphonies and string quartets of Alan Rawsthorne. Whilst not nervous, I found these pieces some of the angriest and most frustrated music I have ever heard. He had some issues...

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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2015, 03:41:30 PM »
I always get the a nervous feeling whenever I listen to Schoenberg, but not so much where I'm trembling, but the kind of unease his music creates. Now this man had some issues. I get a similar feeling from Webern, but in a completely different way. Almost as if you're going into an exotic jungle kind of feeling. Never knowing what to expect.
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2015, 04:36:57 PM »
No, I didn't?

"No, i didn't" would be a great title. Sounds like Monk.

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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2015, 05:11:47 PM »
"No, i didn't" would be a great title. Sounds like Monk.

Yes, it should be played right after "Well You Needn't". ;)
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 05:15:29 PM »
Any of John's favourite composers are nervous composers because John may drop them at any moment without notice.
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Re: "Nervous" Composers
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2015, 05:16:11 PM »
Any of John's favourite composers are nervous composers because John may drop them at any moment without notice.

 :P Oh, Paul! ;D
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