General Election in UK

Started by vandermolen, May 05, 2015, 01:04:04 PM

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vandermolen

So, what's your result prediction if you have any interest?
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Florestan

Interest I have, prediction none.  :D

I just hope that whoever wins will not blame the problems and failures of the UK on the Romanian immigrants anymore.  ;D ;D ;D

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Ken B

Quote from: vandermolen on May 05, 2015, 01:04:04 PM
So, what's your result prediction if you have any interest?

After the catastrophic Scotland result I predict only the worst. I think Ed Milliband, riot-booster, apostle of censorship, is the worst major Western politician to attain a position of power since Waldheim. So I predict he wins, and attains more power.

Sef

I look on with interest. I cannot vote in the election any more but I keep up to date with UK politics. The only disastrous result I can think of seems to be the most likely. A coalition of Labour and the SNP. I can see sparks flying with that one! I suspect that to quite a few UKIP type supporters the only thing worse than the Romanian immigrants is the damn Scots! But we shall see.....
"Do you think that I could have composed what I have composed, do you think that one can write a single note with life in it if one sits there and pities oneself?"

vandermolen

Thanks for replies - who knows what will happen.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Ken B

The polls I see tonight suggest seat losses for the Tories and LDs but that Cameron wins a plurality.

I can only recall seeing one major western politician in recent decades egg on and cheer rioters. I saw Miliband do that. It will endear him to some here but not to me.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Soapy Molloy on May 06, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
The political process here has never recovered from the revelation a few years back that the majority of MPs (our elected representatives) had been fiddling their expenses systematically to a grotesque extent.  Not just one or two, it was almost all of them.  The system (designed by themselves) actually encouraged it.  Tens if not hundreds of thousands of pounds.  Of taxpayers' money.  Each.  Per year.  Behaviour which, in any other context, would earn you a prison term.  Now these same people ask for our votes.  How can you possibly choose?  This crook versus that crook?  Hence the air of unreality pervading this election.  What difference does it make?  Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.
Ugh.

Wish I could say it's different in the good ol' U.S. of A.  But it ain't.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ken B

Quote from: Soapy Molloy on May 06, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
The political process here has never recovered from the revelation a few years back that the majority of MPs (our elected representatives) had been fiddling their expenses systematically to a grotesque extent.  Not just one or two, it was almost all of them.  The system (designed by themselves) actually encouraged it.  Tens if not hundreds of thousands of pounds.  Of taxpayers' money.  Each.  Per year.  Behaviour which, in any other context, would earn you a prison term.  Now these same people ask for our votes.  How can you possibly choose?  This crook versus that crook?  Hence the air of unreality pervading this election.  What difference does it make?  Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.

A Canadian senator ( upper house, appointed) got caught doing that and jailed. But we have less direct ways, such as the revolving door. But I think it's a lot better than it is in the US.
It does help, having neither democrats nor republicans!  ;)

snyprrr

Quote from: Soapy Molloy on May 06, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
The political process here has never recovered from the revelation a few years back that the majority of MPs (our elected representatives) had been fiddling their expenses systematically to a grotesque extent.  Not just one or two, it was almost all of them.  The system (designed by themselves) actually encouraged it.  Tens if not hundreds of thousands of pounds.  Of taxpayers' money.  Each.  Per year.  Behaviour which, in any other context, would earn you a prison term.  Now these same people ask for our votes.  How can you possibly choose?  This crook versus that crook?  Hence the air of unreality pervading this election.  What difference does it make?  Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.

I hear there's a lot of 'fiddling' going on over in the Angel's Land,... such naughtiness. fiddlers and diddlers


btw- Make England Safe for Muslims :laugh:


Is it true that The City of London is a separate country?


"A true Brit is one who is an immigrant"

Florestan

Quote from: Soapy Molloy on May 06, 2015, 03:59:25 PM
The political process here has never recovered from the revelation a few years back that the majority of MPs (our elected representatives) had been fiddling their expenses systematically to a grotesque extent.  Not just one or two, it was almost all of them.  The system (designed by themselves) actually encouraged it.  Tens if not hundreds of thousands of pounds.  Of taxpayers' money.  Each.  Per year.  Behaviour which, in any other context, would earn you a prison term.  Now these same people ask for our votes.  How can you possibly choose?  This crook versus that crook?  Hence the air of unreality pervading this election.  What difference does it make?  Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.

Quote from: karlhenning on May 06, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Ugh.

Wish I could say it's different in the good ol' U.S. of A.  But it ain't.

Count Romania in.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Jo498

Truth is stranger than fiction, it would be hard to make up something like this for a political satire!
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Cato

Quote from: Jo498 on May 07, 2015, 03:36:35 AM
Truth is stranger than fiction, it would be hard to make up something like this for a political satire!

I have too often said that Life today already IS a satire, and therefore satirizing it is well nigh impossible!
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

North Star

Quote from: Cato on May 07, 2015, 03:46:21 AM
I have too often said that Life today already IS a satire, and therefore satirizing it is well nigh impossible!
Very true, but when was life not a satire?  8)
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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Sef

Quote from: karlhenning on May 06, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Ugh.

Wish I could say it's different in the good ol' U.S. of A.  But it ain't.
I was going to say the same thing! But then I'm in Chicago where fiddling expenses UK style is nothing - that's amateur stuff!
"Do you think that I could have composed what I have composed, do you think that one can write a single note with life in it if one sits there and pities oneself?"

Ken B

Quote from: Sef on May 07, 2015, 05:47:58 AM
I was going to say the same thing! But then I'm in Chicago where fiddling expenses UK style is nothing - that's amateur stuff!

It really is. If the extent of the corruption were members thieving a few grand here and there I'd be happy. The real corruption is in getting exemptions, subsidies, special rules, no-bid contracts, "jobs" programs, restrictive regulation, occupational licensing, revolving door jobs, etc.

My member of congress was John Dingle. He was a house member for 59 years. He was the "member from GM". he was instrumental in getting the GM bailout and lots of sweetheart deals. Despite only having one job for a short while before being elected he ended up a very rich man. He owned over $5M in GM stock when he pushed for the bailout.

Cato

Quote from: Ken B on May 07, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
Despite only having one job for a short while before being elected he ended up a very rich man. He owned over $5M in GM stock when he pushed for the bailout.

Truly amazing how politicians often become millionaires, when they are all "just another average American," and are constantly "fighting for working men and women."   :laugh:
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Florestan

Quote from: Ken B on May 07, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
It really is. If the extent of the corruption were members thieving a few grand here and there I'd be happy. The real corruption is in getting exemptions, subsidies, special rules, no-bid contracts, "jobs" programs, restrictive regulation, occupational licensing, revolving door jobs, etc.

Exactly.

Quote from: Cato on May 07, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
Truly amazing how politicians often become millionaires, when they are all "just another average American Romanian," and are constantly "fighting for working men and women."   :laugh:

Fixed.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

vandermolen

#17
I agree that politicians are not trusted and it is true that the expenses scandal appalled many with its revelation of greed and dishonesty.
It hardly seems to matter who wins as nothing really changes - like Animal Farm.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

snyprrr

So- what happened?

Who won- the fascists or the communists???

Ken B

Quote from: snyprrr on May 07, 2015, 04:25:06 PM
So- what happened?

Who won- the fascists or the communists???
Why ask about Miliband twice?