Quiz: Mystery scores

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Mark G. Simon


457 has to be the wind quintet (slow movement?)
458 -- survivor from Warsaw
461 -- Variations for Orchestra, op. 31?
463 -- String trio
466 -- Chamber Symphony, op. 9, opening of the slow movement. This I'm sure of.

sul G

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 12, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
457 has to be the wind quintet (slow movement?)
Yes, but unfortunately Guido got this one

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 12, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
458 -- survivor from Warsaw
Yes - I thought leaving the text in would make this among the first to go!

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 12, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
461 -- Variations for Orchestra, op. 31?
No, though that was one I set a few weeks ago.

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 12, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
463 -- String trio
Yes, but Guido got that one too, I'm afraid.

Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 12, 2009, 09:20:11 AM
466 -- Chamber Symphony, op. 9, opening of the slow movement. This I'm sure of.
Yes. A sublime page, this, and the following ones too. (And the rest, to be honest). In the first bar quoted we see the end of the previous section and, typical of Schoenberg, almost all themes in play at once, plus the fourths from the opening which then dominate this transition. Sublime, as I say.

Mark G. Simon

I know Guido got 'em. But I was in too much of a hurry to check his ones off my list. After all they're easy, and any time wasted means that someone else might get in there and claim the others first.


sul G

BTW, I set one of these pieces before, but a long, long time ago.

sul G

Continuing my theme of being inspired by current GMG threads....

468

Guido

Quote from: sul G on March 12, 2009, 09:23:37 AM
Yes, but unfortunately Guido got this one

Yes, but Guido got that one too, I'm afraid.

Charming!
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

Maciek

MM 102

In 1909, upon inpsecting this score as a judge in a competition, Busoni assumed it could only have been written by Schoenberg (he later wrote to Schoenberg about it). He was wrong, this was in fact a "school piece" written by a completely different composer, several years earlier, when this composer was a student. The piece did in fact receive a prize during the competition, though, if I understand the book I am reading correctly, it was the last, 10th prize (there were 871 or 874 entrants).

That's right, no actual score to go with this one! >:D

sul G

Szymanowski, Prelude and Fugue.

I can't quite believe how little success there was on my ones, especially as some are really famous. I will have to post some answers soon, I suppose.

Guido

Something about 468 looks vaguely Enescian, though there's that massive chord in the centre which couldn't be played by a violin (though of course he wrote in a fair amount of 6 note chords in his violin pieces) so might it be a viola piece? This is a complete stab in the dark.

Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

sul G

You have latched onto the big clue with that one.

sul G


Guido

guitar is the obvious next candidate then...

desperate to know 449 and 455 - these look very intriguing!
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

sul G

You were lovely and close with viola, lovely indeed!

Guido

#4394
Viola d'amore? The Hindemith and Casadesus concertos are too small scale for the scoring here - could it be Villa Lobos' Amazonas? Or knowing your particular penchent for a certain composer it could be from Katya? Again just flailing around in the dark!!

March the 12 isn't so current anymore... an issue.
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

sul G

Quote from: Guido on March 27, 2009, 02:25:08 PM
Viola d'amore? The Hindemith and Cadesus concertos are too small scale for the scoring here - could it be Villa Lobos' Amazonas? Or knowing your particular penchent for a certain composer it could be from Katya? Again just flailing around in the dark!!

March the 12 isn't so current anymore... an issue.

I know - should've grabbed it sooner! Yes, it's viola d'amore, but none of the above.

Guido

La mort de Tintagiles!!!!
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

sul G


Maciek

Quote from: sul G on March 27, 2009, 01:19:52 PM
Szymanowski, Prelude and Fugue.

Cribbing again, I suppose? Stop looking over my shoulder! >:(

(Seriously, Luke, your abilities are uncanny! I give up. I'll remain a humble bystander from now on. No more scores from me. :'( :'( :'()

Maciek

#4399
Oh, alright, alright. One more try.

MM 103

Szymanowski had this to say of the piece in question:

...is an unbelievably disgusting piece of music, it's not even possible to find a word insulting enough to describe it. [...] it is as if someone invited people to a banquet and instead of giving them oysters and champagne - served them sh**! (excuse my vulgar metaphors!)

No score again... 0:)

(I might add one later, if it's necessary and I find one available online.)

[EDIT: further clues: a very large work, it was usually performed with cuts and a full version had not been recorded until 1991. It was the composer's last work - completed many years before his death. There's no scherzo. It commemorates the January Uprising. I'm adding an image below - if you can figure out the abbreviations, the instrumentation could perhaps provide some clues:]