Topic: Bach Goldberg Variations

[Don]

Can anyone recommend two recordings - one using a (relatively) high amount of repeats, and the other using a low amount? I am not familiar enough with the piece to be aware of any real differences.

High amount - Tureck.

Low amount - Leonhardt.

[Don]

Any opinions on differences between Scott Ross (Erato) & Scott Ross (EMI/Virgin).

I'm thinking getting one of them, but which?

thanks

Sorry, but I never heard the Erato version.

[Lethevich]

High amount - Tureck.

Low amount - Leonhardt.

Thank you Only one to buy - I have and enjoy the Leonhardt on Vanguard.

[AnthonyAthletic]

Thank you Only one to buy - I have and enjoy the Leonhardt on Vanguard.

 

Yes, the Leonhardt Vanguard Historic recording is superb.  The State of Wonder set by Gould is a fine one to have, I prefer his 1981 version with the repeats over the '55.  The set also includes a 1 hour + conversation which is essential if you are getting to know the works.  I am not a total GG supporter but there's no complaints in his Goldberg's or Bach in general IMO.

Haven't heard the 1959 version or seen it available over here (not looked too hard to find it) but in general surfing I haven't come across it.

[Drasko]

Haven't heard the 1959 version or seen it available over here (not looked too hard to find it) but in general surfing I haven't come across it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenn-Gould-Jan-Pieterszoon-Sweelinck/dp/B000025DK4

[Don]

Yes, the Leonhardt Vanguard Historic recording is superb.  The State of Wonder set by Gould is a fine one to have, I prefer his 1981 version with the repeats over the '55.  The set also includes a 1 hour + conversation which is essential if you are getting to know the works.  I am not a total GG supporter but there's no complaints in his Goldberg's or Bach in general IMO.

Haven't heard the 1959 version or seen it available over here (not looked too hard to find it) but in general surfing I haven't come across it.

You're in England, right?  Well, Amazon UK has it readily available.

Sorry, I didn't notice the Drasko link.

[AnthonyAthletic]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glenn-Gould-Jan-Pieterszoon-Sweelinck/dp/B000025DK4

Thanks for this, First time I have seen this cd available  

[Mark]

Haven't heard the 1959 version or seen it available over here (not looked too hard to find it) but in general surfing I haven't come across it.

I got this (albeit in a different issue to the one Drasko has linked to) for about £1.20.

[AnthonyAthletic]

You're in England, right?  Well, Amazon UK has it readily available.

Got it, thanks to Drasko's link.  Caiman USA (who have always delivered) are about to do so again  

Now we need to dig out the WTC topic, sadly I didn't take to the GG recording of these masterpieces but am quite content with Tureck (mono) DG & Richter's RCA set, which does sound distant and slightly muffled in the recording.

[Don]

Got it, thanks to Drasko's link.  Caiman USA (who have always delivered) are about to do so again  

Now we need to dig out the WTC topic, sadly I didn't take to the GG recording of these masterpieces but am quite content with Tureck (mono) DG & Richter's RCA set, which does sound distant and slightly muffled in the recording.

Yes, that Tureck/DG mono set is totally compelling and my favorite complete WTC on piano.

[Lady Chatterley]

I kid you not. Don loves Bach. The Goldberg Variations especially.

 Hey Mark,do you think Don might enjoy Handel's Chaconne in G Major HWV 435?

[Mark]

Hey Mark,do you think Don might enjoy Handel's Chaconne in G Major HWV 435?

Lord alone knows, Muriel. Don't think I've heard that.

[Lady Chatterley]

They are a splendid set of variations,you can find it played by Murray Perahia.

[Don]

Hey Mark,do you think Don might enjoy Handel's Chaconne in G Major HWV 435?

Don does enjoy the Chaconne but not as much as the Goldbergs.

[12tone.]

And Don never sleeps to the Goldbergs 

You misspeak a bit. This is not 'music intended to induce sleep';  this is music to listen to if you find that you cannot sleep.  There is a difference 

Except that when one listens to a piece, whilst being 'not able to sleep', to actually get to sleep!

[Que]

Sorry, but I never heard the Erato version.

So, I have a Goldbergs recording you don't have....

Amazing!

Q


P.S. Sorry Drasko, don't know the Scott Ross on EMI/Virgin.

[Don]

So, I have a Goldbergs recording you don't have....

Amazing!

Q

It's very easy to accumulate dozens of Goldbergs without making any attempt to collect them all.  There is one brand new recording I definitely will get - Burkard Schliessmann on Bayer.

[karlhenning]

Except that when one listens to a piece, whilst being 'not able to sleep', to actually get to sleep!

Well, in my experience, it doesn't work;  there is either relaxing into sleep, or there is engaged listening.  So perhaps there is some better way to put it than "listening to a piece in order to fall asleep" . . . ?

[71 dB]

Yes, Sony "06" as long as folks know that's it's simply the Gould "55" all gussied up to not sound like an historical recording.  Personally, I think it's only part Gould.  Let's face it - this tinkering around with the sound takes some of the fizz out of the performance.

Yes, it's Gould "55" but with sound quality of today. It's as if Gould was born 50 years later and recorded the work last year. All recordings are tinkering, this is just high-tech tinkering. Nothing relavant is taken away, only irrelevant noise.

[Don]

Yes, it's Gould "55" but with sound quality of today. It's as if Gould was born 50 years later and recorded the work last year. All recordings are tinkering, this is just high-tech tinkering. Nothing relavant is taken away, only irrelevant noise.

Since the "intervention" results in more rounded and rich phrasing, I definitely prefer the original mono version.