Karl Bohm

[Mozart]

Is he a vampire? He sure sucks the life out of any piece he composes.

** I ment conduct 

[Steve]

I really don't know how to respond to this, but as a mutual Mozart admirer, I would encourage a listen to of his symphony cycle. For me, I generally don't consider Bohm essential, in the sense that I can usually find what he brings to a piece in someone else.

[Mozart]

 I have his symphonies 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, and 41 and I find them soo incredibly unpassionate and boring. If he was the only one to compose Mozart, I couldnt be a Mozart fan. I know he is an enormous Mozart man but really a little tempo won't kill anyone!

[Mozart]

I have thid dvd because I love Kiri te Kanawa
http://youtube.com/watch?v=er8-xUPhn-8

but its soo slow! Specially the part with sussana and cherubino when the say the doors are locked! There is no sense of panic at all.

[Steve]

I have his symphonies 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, and 41 and I find them soo incredibly unpassionate and boring. If he was the only one to compose Mozart, I couldnt be a Mozart fan. I know he is an enormous Mozart man but really a little tempo won't kill anyone!

The late are a tad dry, but he did a nice job with some of the earlier ones. (6, 11, 21)

[Mozart]

The late are a tad dry, but he did a nice job with some of the earlier ones. (6, 11, 21)

Symphony 6 11 and 21?

[Que]

Mozart (aka MM), Karl Böhm is THE conductor for Richard Strauss' operas, and he is a great Wagnerian too.

But you're right - he is best avoided in most other things!

And for Mozart - you'd really ought to go HIP on that one ->>>> HIP Mozart.
Those oldtimers just don't do exciting Mozart (except for Szell)

Q

[Iago]

Is he a vampire? He sure sucks the life out of any piece he composes.

He "composes"
What the hell does that mean?  Did you have too much to drink tonight> Or maybe you are lacking some sleep?
The last time I looked he was a world famous maestro, with very few compositions to his credit.

[Don]

I have his symphonies 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, and 41 and I find them soo incredibly unpassionate and boring. If he was the only one to compose Mozart, I couldnt be a Mozart fan. I know he is an enormous Mozart man but really a little tempo won't kill anyone!

I have to say that I love Bohm's Mozart; his Requiem, Clarinet Concerto and Concerto for Flute and Harpsichord are treasured.

[val]

Mozart

Is he a vampire? He sure sucks the life out of any piece he composes.

It is a strange opinion. I admire Karl Böhm. In special in opera, with his superb recordings of Cosi fan tutte (Schwarzkopf and Ludwig), the Ring and Tristan (Windgassen, Nilsson), Daphne (with Güden and Wunderlich), Die Frau ohne Schatten (Nilsson, Rysanek), Ariadne auf Naxos (Della Casa, Seefried) and Wozzeck (Fischer Dieskau, Lear).

And also his version made in thefifties, mono, of Schubert's 5th and 8th Symphonies (VPO), Brahms 3rd (VPO) and later, in stereo, his sublime interpretation of Bruckner's 7th.

His versions have life, but, regarding the opera he was one of those conductors (like Keilberth, Knappertsbusch, or in Italy Serafin or in Russia Nebolssine or Khaikin) that never imposed himself to the singers. He gave them the most beautiful support but with him we never feel that we are listening to a Symphony with voices (in this he was the opposite of conductors such as Toscanini, Giulini, Karajan).

[david johnson]

i've never heard any of his compositions 
the bohm/schubert dg box is fine.

dj

[johnshade]

My favorite Elektra Rysanek, Varnay, Ligendza, Fischer-Dieskau, Beirer, Bohme, Greindl;  and Salome (available in June on DVD) Teresa Stratas, Astrid Varnay, Hanna Schwarz, Bernd Weikl, Wieslav Ochma - - Karl Bohm Wiener Philharmoniker
~
     

[johnshade]

"I suffer no compromises in music. I caused a good deal of mischief in my life - but in my music, I was always honest, always upright." - Karl Böhm in July 1981, a few weeks before his death.

[Mozart]

Mozart (aka MM), Karl Böhm is THE conductor for Richard Strauss' operas, and he is a great Wagnerian too.

But you're right - he is best avoided in most other things!

And for Mozart - you'd really ought to go HIP on that one ->>>> HIP Mozart.
Those oldtimers just don't do exciting Mozart (except for Szell)

Q

hahha don't get me started on Furtwangler's Don Giovanni.

Dooooooonnnnnn Giooooooooooovaaaaannnnnniiiiiiiiii
AAAAAAAAAAAAA Ceeeeeeeeennaaaaaarrrrr teeeeeecccooooo

[Steve]

Symphony 6 11 and 21?

Yes, those were the one's I was referring to.

[Mozart]

Yes, those were the one's I was referring to.

Seems like an odd batch to record!

[Michel]

I suggest you listen to his Beethoven symphonies from the early seventies.

[Choo Choo]

I was just about to mention those.

Some of his Bruckner recordings ain't half bad either.  His 8th with the Zürich Tonhalle, for instance.

[MishaK]

Some of his Bruckner recordings ain't half bad either.  His 8th with the Zürich Tonhalle, for instance.

His 1973 VPO 4th is for the ages.

[Michel]

Radio 3 made his Bruckner 7 the best recording! I am not utterely convinced, though I don't own it so will revisit it.