Luigi Boccherini (1743-1805)!

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Antoine Marchand

Quote from: SonicMan on January 08, 2011, 02:12:01 PMI have MUCHO MUSIC by Luigi...

"Mucha" music or "mucha música", dear Dave. One of the hardest things of the Spanish are the adjectives because they have "gender". The adjectives are easier in English, but the prepositions are just demoniac.  :)   

SonicMan46

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on January 08, 2011, 03:54:34 PM
"Mucha" music or "mucha música", dear Dave. One of the hardest things of the Spanish are the adjectives because they have "gender". The adjectives are easier in English, but the prepositions are just demoniac.  :)

Dear Antoine - why the embarrassment, I was just combining languages for the sake of us poor Yankees!  ;D

Actually, I took 2 yrs of Spanish at the University of Michigan as a pre-med student - can hardly remember a thing since I've not used the language (and I also feel this is a GREAT loss to me!); so I do understand your explanations.

Maybe I should have just used MUCH to explain my position -  ;)   Dave  ;D

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: SonicMan on January 08, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Dear Antoine - why the embarrassment, I was just combining languages for the sake of us poor Yankees!  ;D

Actually, I took 2 yrs of Spanish at the University of Michigan as a pre-med student - can hardly remember a thing since I've not used the language (and I also feel this is a GREAT loss to me!); so I do understand your explanations.

Maybe I should have just used MUCH to explain my position -  ;)   Dave  ;D

One thing I really appreciate about English speakers is the disposition to understand even people writing or speaking bad English (like me, f.i.  :D). Obviously the situation is rather different with other languages, notoriously the French.

Orpheus


Grazioso

There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Orpheus

Quote from: Grazioso on May 05, 2011, 09:15:55 AM
An alternative:



I know that Brilliant box (but I do not own it), but I would like to know if Naxos will continue its own series

Grazioso

Quote from: Orpheus on May 05, 2011, 10:09:04 AM
I know that Brilliant box (but I do not own it), but I would like to know if Naxos will continue its own series

They have released a couple other sonatas discs, but with different artists. It seems quite unlikely they'll complete the series with the original artists, given that that disc was released 12 years ago.
There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Grazioso

Heads up: Virgin has re-released two of the Europa Galante Boccherini discs as a cheap twofer. These are essential recordings for Boccherini addicts.

There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Florestan

Quote from: Grazioso on June 29, 2011, 04:54:13 AM
Heads up: Virgin has re-released two of the Europa Galante Boccherini discs as a cheap twofer. These are essential recordings for Boccherini addicts.



Amen, brother!
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

SonicMan46

Divertimenti, Op. 16 - Flute Sextets w/ Strings - just received the disc below (left) w/ Piccolo Concerto Wien (PCW) performing 3 of the works from this group of six - the Yves Gérard, i.e. G numbers were not listed; now I also own the Capriccio disc (from their Boccherini 10-CD box) w/ some of the same works, so 'how much' overlap - well, in checking HERE, the works recorded on each of these discs are:

PCW - G.462, 463, & 465 vs. the Capriccio - G.461, 464, 465, & 466 - so, just one overlapping work; a nice combo of CDs for those interested in Luigi's larger chamber works w/ the flute! :)


 

George



Anyone get this set? Thoughts?

CD 1-2 Symphonies, G 515, 517-522 (Michael Erleben, New Berlin Chamber Orchestra, 1993)
CD 3-5 Cello Concertos, G 474-483, 573, E-flat major G deest (Enrico Bronzi, Accademia i filarmonici di Verona, 2005)
CD 6 String Sextets, Op. 23, no. 1, 3, 4, 6; G 454, 456, 457, 459 (Mayumi Seiler and others, 1991)
CD 7 Oboe Quintets, Op. 55, G 431-436 (Lajos Lencsés, Parisli Quartet, 1992)
CD 8-9 Guitar Quintets, G 445-450, 453 (Eros Roselli, La Magnifica Comunità, 2005)
CD 10-13 Piano Quintets, Op. 56-57; G 407-418 (Ilario Gregoletto, Ensemble Claviere, 2005)
CD 14-29 String Quintets, Op. 10, 11, 13, 18, 20, 25, 27, 28 (all with second cello), 39 (with bass); G 265-312, 337-339 (La Magnifica Comunità, 2006-2011)
CD 30 String Quartets, G 248, 177, 194, 213 (Petersen Quartet, 1991)
CD 31 Sonatas for Piano and Violin, Op. 5; G 25-30 (Enrico Gatti, Franco Angelini, 1991)
CD 32 Sonatas for Piano, Violin, and Cello, G 143-148 (Galimathias Musicum, 1991)
CD 33-36 Sonatas for Cello, G 1, 2a, 2b, 3, 4a, 4b, 5-18, 565a, 565b, 566, E-flat major, G major, and D major G deest (Luigi Puxeddu and others, 2009; G 18 played on viola)
CD 37 Stabat Mater, 1781 version, G 532 (Barbara Vignudelli, soprano; Flavio Emilio Scogna, Orchestra da Camera "Benedetto Marcello," 2005)
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SonicMan46

Hey George - I have about 50 discs of Luigi's music - virtually most of which is listed below (and beyond) - the ones in bold seem to match those that I own (although that collection is in part a sampling from individual larger boxes offered by Brilliant); NOW, looking @ my database, I'm not sure if I own the Piano Sonatas (disc 32) - not sure 'how much' Boccherini you now own?  BUT, if that box is priced right for you and you want 3 dozen discs of his music, then I'd certainly suggest a strong consideration - Dave :)

Quote from: George on February 13, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
Anyone get this set? Thoughts?

CD 1-2 Symphonies, G 515, 517-522 (Michael Erleben, New Berlin Chamber Orchestra, 1993)
CD 3-5 Cello Concertos, G 474-483, 573, E-flat major G deest (Enrico Bronzi, Accademia i filarmonici di Verona, 2005)
CD 6 String Sextets, Op. 23, no. 1, 3, 4, 6; G 454, 456, 457, 459 (Mayumi Seiler and others, 1991)
CD 7 Oboe Quintets, Op. 55, G 431-436 (Lajos Lencsés, Parisli Quartet, 1992)
CD 8-9 Guitar Quintets, G 445-450, 453 (Eros Roselli, La Magnifica Comunità, 2005)
CD 10-13 Piano Quintets, Op. 56-57; G 407-418 (Ilario Gregoletto, Ensemble Claviere, 2005)
CD 14-29 String Quintets, Op. 10, 11, 13, 18, 20, 25, 27, 28 (all with second cello), 39 (with bass); G 265-312, 337-339 (La Magnifica Comunità, 2006-2011)
CD 30 String Quartets, G 248, 177, 194, 213 (Petersen Quartet, 1991)
CD 31 Sonatas for Piano and Violin, Op. 5; G 25-30 (Enrico Gatti, Franco Angelini, 1991)
CD 32 Sonatas for Piano, Violin, and Cello, G 143-148 (Galimathias Musicum, 1991)
CD 33-36 Sonatas for Cello, G 1, 2a, 2b, 3, 4a, 4b, 5-18, 565a, 565b, 566, E-flat major, G major, and D major G deest (Luigi Puxeddu and others, 2009; G 18 played on viola)
CD 37 Stabat Mater, 1781 version, G 532 (Barbara Vignudelli, soprano; Flavio Emilio Scogna, Orchestra da Camera "Benedetto Marcello," 2005)

George

Thanks, Dave! I trust you enjoy the performances from that big box that you have heard already?
"It is a curious fact that people are never so trivial as when they take themselves seriously." –Oscar Wilde

SonicMan46

Quote from: George on February 13, 2013, 06:34:11 PM
Thanks, Dave! I trust you enjoy the performances from that big box that you have heard already?

George - well, I've not listened to a lot of this in a while but it's still in my collection and I enjoyed - plus, just checked on Amazon and that box is there for $66 (i.e. just 2 bucks a disc!) - again, if you really want that much of his music, this is a great deal - Dave :)

71 dB

Recently I have been listening to my four Boccherini discs:

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Boccherini is easy to overlook, but his music is always a delight to listen to. Looks like it's time to collect more Boccherini...  0:)

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SonicMan46

Quote from: 71 dB on December 23, 2014, 01:38:44 AM
Recently I have been listening to my four Boccherini discs:

Boccherini is easy to overlook, but his music is always a delight to listen to. Looks like it's time to collect more Boccherini...  0:)

Yep, Luigi wrote a LOT of varied music worth exploring - his String Quintets are especially enjoyable, typically using two cellos.  Dave :)

Florestan

Highly recommended



My own comments:

Despite what one might be inclined to believe judging by the title and the structure of the works (two-movement) this is not at all light music. The first movements are always meditative, even ruminative sometimes (the Andantino of no. 3 and the Adagio of no. 4, for instance) while the menuets are anything but dances; I mean they dance, but on thin ice, and it's more like a dance of emotions and thoughts rather than of feet. Add to this that Boccherini is one of those few composers who can effortlessly and miraculously make a major key sound like a minor one (the only other one I can think of is Schubert) and that in refinement and stylishness he is second to none. Biondi and his team play with their usual warmth and engagement.
"Ja, sehr komisch, hahaha,
ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

71 dB

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Quote from: SonicMan46 on December 23, 2014, 07:48:28 AM
Yep, Luigi wrote a LOT of varied music worth exploring - his String Quintets are especially enjoyable, typically using two cellos.  Dave :)

After looking for String Quintets I am puzzled. Brilliant Classics' 6 CD box looks good.
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and less tiresome in headphone listening.

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SonicMan46

Quote from: 71 dB on December 24, 2014, 01:08:46 AM
After looking for String Quintets I am puzzled. Brilliant Classics' 6 CD box looks good.

Hi Poju - I have over 40 of Luigi's String Quintets (those listed below); the ones in bold are in the Brilliant 6-CD box - the recordings are recent, 2004-2005, but period instruments and practices were used - recommended as a bargain introduction; and those other CDs listed below are w/ excellent performers.

Boccherini wrote over 150 of these works for 5 string instruments, not counting the guitar quintets and quintets for other instruments, such as the keyboard & flute (list of his compositions HERE).  Dave :)

   String Quintets
G. 265-270 - La Magnifica Comunita
G. 271-276 -  La Magnifica Comunita
G. 277-282 -  La Magnifica Comunita
G. 280, 326, 393, 401 - Peterson Q.
G. 391, 395, 397 - Ensemble 415
G. 275, 348, 351 - Lester-Vanb.Q.
G. 310,349,350,353 - Lester-Vanb.Q.
G. 324 ,448 - Fandango - Savall
G. 249, 337-339 - Ens Concertant Frankfurt
G. 313-318 - Byslma-Kuijkens (Seon 2-CDs)

71 dB

Quote from: SonicMan46 on December 24, 2014, 11:42:05 AM
Hi Poju - I have over 40 of Luigi's String Quintets (those listed below); the ones in bold are in the Brilliant 6-CD box - the recordings are recent, 2004-2005, but period instruments and practices were used - recommended as a bargain introduction; and those other CDs listed below are w/ excellent performers.

Boccherini wrote over 150 of these works for 5 string instruments, not counting the guitar quintets and quintets for other instruments, such as the keyboard & flute (list of his compositions HERE).  Dave :)

   String Quintets
G. 265-270 - La Magnifica Comunita
G. 271-276 -  La Magnifica Comunita
G. 277-282 -  La Magnifica Comunita
G. 280, 326, 393, 401 - Peterson Q.
G. 391, 395, 397 - Ensemble 415
G. 275, 348, 351 - Lester-Vanb.Q.
G. 310,349,350,353 - Lester-Vanb.Q.
G. 324 ,448 - Fandango - Savall
G. 249, 337-339 - Ens Concertant Frankfurt
G. 313-318 - Byslma-Kuijkens (Seon 2-CDs)

I clearly need to think about what I really want to do with Boccherini. Thanks for this information Dave! I am quite fond of the Flute Quintets.
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW June 2025 "Fusion Energy"