Charles T. Griffes

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Quote from: Mirror Image on April 04, 2013, 08:43:37 PM
Not to hose this post down, but I find nothing wrong with the Naxos recording. In fact, it's simply the only game in town until another all-Griffes orchestral recording emerges, which I doubt will be anytime soon. Anyway, I thought Falletta did an excellent job. She clearly has this music under her grasp and understands Griffes' idiom. I'd like to hear the London Symphony Orchestra or even the Cleveland Orchestra in this music, but I'm just going to stop dreaming. :)

Point taken - maybe this is because I grew up with the Gerhardt LP.
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SonicMan46

Boy, I posted back in early 2009 and still have the same 2 discs - obviously, Griffes has not been in my thoughts recently -  :D

I'd love to replace that 'piano disc' but not sure about the choices (a lot of mediocre comments on Amazon, e.g. about the Naxos offerings) - NOW, there is one w/ Garrick Ohlsson (love his Chopin box) about to be released in the USA - will wait for reviews; there is also an older recording by Joseph Smith offered as an Arkiv CD-R that seems to have been well received.

But will be curious about further comments on this early 20th century American composer; unfortunately, he died @ 35 years of age from the flu -  :(

 

madaboutmahler

Just listened to:
http://www.youtube.com/v/UBFpEpJc7PU

My first listen to Griffes and I love it. Lovely piece, great orchestration, very Debussian which was what I was expecting. Love the ending, beautiful touch with the celesta. Would be keen to hear more.

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Anyone have any opinions on this disc? :)
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Mirror Image

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Quote from: madaboutmahler on April 11, 2013, 12:52:26 PM
Just listened to:
http://www.youtube.com/v/UBFpEpJc7PU

My first listen to Griffes and I love it. Lovely piece, great orchestration, very Debussian which was what I was expecting. Love the ending, beautiful touch with the celesta. Would be keen to hear more.

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Anyone have any opinions on this disc? :)

Yes, as it stands it's the only game in town for an all-orchestral recording of Griffes. You'll love that recording, Daniel. Plus, it's cheap as hell, so why not? :)

One work that really impressed me was Bacchanale. It's a very short work maybe 4-5 minutes in length but a great miniature. Found a video for it:

http://www.youtube.com/v/AVgbEkBWuqs

madaboutmahler

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 11, 2013, 05:31:56 PM
Yes, as it stands it's the only game in town for an all-orchestral recording of Griffes. You'll love that recording, Daniel. Plus, it's cheap as hell, so why not? :)

One work that really impressed me was Bacchanale. It's a very short work maybe 4-5 minutes in length but a great miniature. Found a video for it:

http://www.youtube.com/v/AVgbEkBWuqs

Thanks for the link and feedback, John! Loved the Bacchanale, brilliant piece! Will definitely be getting that cd! :)
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Brian

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 11, 2013, 05:31:56 PM
Yes, as it stands it's the only game in town for an all-orchestral recording of Griffes.

...almost.



On the Falletta but not the Schwarz: three poems (with soprano), Clouds

On the Schwarz but not the Falletta: nothing, actually

I reviewed the Schwarz, but didn't compare it directly to Falletta work-by-work. My summary: "As for this disc, Scott Goff's flute solo work in the Poem is extraordinary - no wonder he was with the orchestra for 42 years! - and Gerard Schwarz really understands the sensual, impressionistic idiom of the music. The sound from 1990 has aged well, though as always it's worth pointing out that the Seattle Symphony has since moved to a hall with yet finer acoustics, so don't expect the sonic opulence of the new Rimsky-Korsakov CDs."

By the way, here's another chance to point out Garrick Ohlsson's doing a Griffes piano album next month. I'm excited for it!

Octave

I'm really glad Hugo posted that YT of KUBLA.  It's the very first I've heard of Griffes' music, and I think I'm going to really get into it.  Add to abjectly out-of-control Naxos purchase pile!
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Mirror Image

Forgot about that Schwarz recording but it's still not an all-Griffes recording like Falletta, but it's halfway there. :)

Mirror Image

Quote from: madaboutmahler on April 12, 2013, 05:36:19 AM
Thanks for the link and feedback, John! Loved the Bacchanale, brilliant piece! Will definitely be getting that cd! :)

Yes, Daniel, buy the Falletta Griffes recording. You won't regret it.

springrite

Quote from: SonicMan46 on April 05, 2013, 08:47:16 AM
Boy, I posted back in early 2009 and still have the same 2 discs - obviously, Griffes has not been in my thoughts recently -  :D

I'd love to replace that 'piano disc' but not sure about the choices (a lot of mediocre comments on Amazon, e.g. about the Naxos offerings) - NOW, there is one w/ Garrick Ohlsson (love his Chopin box) about to be released in the USA - will wait for reviews; there is also an older recording by Joseph Smith offered as an Arkiv CD-R that seems to have been well received.

But will be curious about further comments on this early 20th century American composer; unfortunately, he died @ 35 years of age from the flu -  :(

 

The NAXOS recording of the piano music is not up to par, at least compared to the old LP with Noel Lee, it is miles ahead of the NAXOS. So I will get the Ohlsson for sure!
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Lisztianwagner

I completely agree about Griffes' The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan, it's an absolutely wonderful work, very suggestive and evocative; I love the overwhelming energy, the orchestration, the colour and the exotic melodies expressed by this piece. I think it perfectly depicts Coleridge's poem, its dreamy visions, the incredible beauty of the landscapes where the palace stands, the haunting, romantically sublime atmospheres and the powerful images created. I'll certainly listen to more from this composer in the future. :)
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North Star

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on April 12, 2013, 08:24:28 AM
I completely agree about Griffes' The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan, it's an absolutely wonderful work, very suggestive and evocative; I love the overwhelming energy, the orchestration, the colour and the exotic melodies expressed by this piece. I think it perfectly depicts Coleridge's poem, its dreamy visions, the incredible beauty of the landscapes where the palace stands, the haunting, romantically sublime atmospheres and the powerful images created. I'll certainly listen to more from this composer in the future. :)
Listened to it yesterday, good stuff! You should try the Bacchanale, too, Ilaria! (video posted by John a couple of posts ago)
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Quote from: North Star on April 12, 2013, 08:28:39 AM
Listened to it yesterday, good stuff! You should try the Bacchanale, too, Ilaria! (video posted by John a couple of posts ago)

Thank you, Karlo, I'll have a listen to it now!
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Dax

The piano sonata is a striking work - and probably his most individual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbLA6nwjeJY

SonicMan46

Well after 8 months or so and after being re-introduced to this thread today, I just ordered the Ohlsson CD from Amazon - finally!   ;D  Dave

Quote from: SonicMan46 on April 05, 2013, 08:47:16 AM
I'd love to replace that 'piano disc' but not sure about the choices (a lot of mediocre comments on Amazon, e.g. about the Naxos offerings) - NOW, there is one w/ Garrick Ohlsson (love his Chopin box) about to be released in the USA - will wait for reviews; there is also an older recording by Joseph Smith offered as an Arkiv CD-R that seems to have been well received.

But will be curious about further comments on this early 20th century American composer; unfortunately, he died @ 35 years of age from the flu -  :(

 

Mirror Image

I bought that recording, too, Dave. I love Impressionistic solo piano music. This is about the only style of music I can tolerate when it comes to solo piano music, though. I look forward to hearing these Griffes works.

lescamil

Throw in another vote for the Griffes Piano Sonata. It's not the best written sonata ever, nor the greatest from that time period, but it sure keeps my interest and there is a lot of interesting music in it. Ohlsson did a really nice job on that new Hyperion recording. He makes a lot of the music sound better than it really is. A lot of the piano works are nice, but they just feel like they're missing something. Still, a really nice recording worth listening to.
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Quote from: Dax on December 11, 2013, 09:03:01 AM
The piano sonata is a striking work - and probably his most individual.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbLA6nwjeJY

Just heard it (Lawson),... wow, such a piece!!... very dark and perfumed and exotic... some of the most exotic Piano Music I've heard... Szymanowski but from another part of the world??...

Mandryka

Quote from: snyprrr on January 15, 2017, 07:50:52 AM
Just heard it (Lawson),... wow, such a piece!!... very dark and perfumed and exotic... some of the most exotic Piano Music I've heard... Szymanowski but from another part of the world??...


Or Scriabin. I agree that it's a nice sonata, unfortunately when I've explored Griffes other piano pieces I was less impressed, he may be a one hit wonder.
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