Obverse Flute?

Started by Bunny, May 24, 2007, 06:53:28 AM

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Bunny

I was reading an article in which the author referred to an obverse flute.  Is it a flute that is not played sideways as a transverse flute, but rather held similarly to a recorder?  I've gone through dictionaries and encyclopedias and can't come up with anything.  The only "obverse flute" I can come up with is an architectural term.

david johnson

perhaps it's held to the left side ;)

dj

jochanaan

Quote from: david johnson on May 24, 2007, 07:07:33 AM
perhaps it's held to the left side ;)

dj
Wouldn't that be a "reverse flute," not an obverse one? ??? I confess I've never heard of this.
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Bunny

Well, at least I'm not alone in my ignorance.  Ofcourse, the article was written by an archaeologist not a musicologist, but it was talking about musical instruments rather than the flutes on a column.

david johnson

i'll say the guy doesn't know of what he talks  ;D

dj

Bunny

Quote from: david johnson on May 24, 2007, 08:06:51 AM
i'll say the guy doesn't know of what he talks  ;D

dj

Perhaps true, but perhaps not.  I'm no musicologist so I won't say a thing about this.  I suspect that it's a reference to recorder style flutes, but I was hoping someone could confirm this.

BachQ

It's very much like the obverse piccolo ........

david johnson

perhaps it is built inside out, thus featuring the keys inside the instrument.

dj

The Mad Hatter

Quote from: david johnson on May 24, 2007, 09:27:14 AM
perhaps it is built inside out, thus featuring the keys inside the instrument.

dj

Yes. You press the keys with a specially designed stick held between the tongue and the teeth. Quite an extraordinary sound, really.

Bunny

Aha! diligent Google search has turned up one reference to the "obverse flute":

lyricon      an electronic wind instrument like a large obverse flute.



I will search on, hoping to find another reference that will define it more specifically. 

david johnson

#10
maybe we should look up inverse flutes while we're at it.
i knew one black-haired beauty in college who was a perverse flute jock.
she was fun on dates.

dj

BachQ

Quote from: Bunny on May 24, 2007, 09:51:16 AM
Aha! diligent Google search has turned up one reference to the "obverse flute":

lyricon      an electronic wind instrument like a large obverse flute.



I will search on, hoping to find another reference that will define it more specifically. 

That's a Lyricon I.


I much prefer the Lyricon II


jochanaan

Quote from: D Minor on May 24, 2007, 10:11:27 AM
That's a Lyricon I.


I much prefer the Lyricon II
And I still prefer a flute. ;D Or an oboe, or clarinet...

The mouthpiece on the Lyricon I looks more like a clarinet mouthpiece. ???
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BachQ

Quote from: jochanaan on May 24, 2007, 10:42:59 AM
And I still prefer a flute. ;D Or an oboe, or clarinet...

You mean a real, non-mechanical flute?

:o

BachQ

Quote from: jochanaan on May 24, 2007, 10:42:59 AM
The mouthpiece on the Lyricon I looks more like a clarinet mouthpiece. ???

The Lyricon mouthpiece uses a bass clarinet mouthpiece, with a sensor on the reed that detects minute changes in ambient lip pressure. Wind pressure is measured and detected by a diaphragm, which moves and changes the light output from a light emitting diode, which in turn is sensed by a photocell to give dynamic control.

How could you prefer a natural flute to this?  :o

:D

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Bunny on May 24, 2007, 06:53:28 AM
I was reading an article in which the author referred to an obverse flute.  Is it a flute that is not played sideways as a transverse flute, but rather held similarly to a recorder?  I've gone through dictionaries and encyclopedias and can't come up with anything.  The only "obverse flute" I can come up with is an architectural term.

I have at least one book that refers to the recorder group as obverse flutes. I'll hunt it tonight and post the reference.

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Bunny

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 24, 2007, 12:51:36 PM
I have at least one book that refers to the recorder group as obverse flutes. I'll hunt it tonight and post the reference.

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Thank you so very much!!  At least I know that it's not a "made up" term just for the paper. :D

jochanaan

Dm, "non-mechanical" is hardly the operative word. ;) But there's something about the natural sound of a non-electronic instrument.  Of course, the human voice is the least "mechanical," most "natural" instrument there is.  (I know you know this; I'm speaking for others who may not be aware of it yet.  And if anyone thinks I'm against all modern music, just read a few other posts of mine, including a recent one on the "intense endings" thread. ;D)
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BachQ

Quote from: jochanaan on May 27, 2007, 11:19:31 AM
Dm, "non-mechanical" is hardly the operative word. ;)

I'm a bad, bad person ........  :D