A New Defense of Mendelssohn

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Josquin des Prez

#100
October 21, 2009, 07:17:45 AM
Quote from: jlaurson on October 21, 2009, 07:12:36 AM
"Mmmh, not really" is inadequate as a response to any statement, much less one that is backed up by a reasonably discriminating explanation in the text you evidently couldn't be bothered reading.

Ho well, its in the article. That means it must be true.  ::)

jlaurson

#101
October 21, 2009, 07:21:15 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 21, 2009, 07:17:45 AM
Ho well, its in the article. That means it must be true.  ::)

Sometimes I wonder if curiosity and self-righteousness are in the proper balance...

Franco

#102
October 21, 2009, 07:25:45 AM
I am really tired of the superficial, "fine composer, but no genius", attitude often expressed regarding Mendelssohn.  IMO, people who say this kind of thing don't really listen to and love music as much as they use music as the vehicle for expressing opinions.

Josquin des Prez

#103
October 21, 2009, 07:36:55 AM
Quote from: Franco on October 21, 2009, 07:25:45 AM
I am really tired of the superficial, "fine composer, but no genius", attitude often expressed regarding Mendelssohn.  IMO, people who say this kind of thing don't really listen to and love music as much as they use music as the vehicle for expressing opinions.

Or maybe they actually believe that Mendelssohn was a great composer, but not a genius. Hey, everything is possible, right?

Franco

#104
October 21, 2009, 07:44:17 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 21, 2009, 07:36:55 AM
Or maybe they actually believe that Mendelssohn was a great composer, but not a genius. Hey, everything is possible, right?

Sure, but why bother expressing that opinion other than to leave a t*rd in the punch bowl.

Josquin des Prez

#105
October 21, 2009, 07:47:07 AM
Quote from: Franco on October 21, 2009, 07:44:17 AM
Sure, but why bother expressing that opinion other than to leave a t*rd in the punch bowl.

Because that was the topic.

jlaurson

#106
October 21, 2009, 07:49:11 AM
Quote from: Franco on October 21, 2009, 07:44:17 AM
Sure, but why bother expressing that opinion other than to leave a t*rd in the punch bowl.



Because that tidbit belongs in the same paragraph with the name "Mendelssohn" with the same imperative necessity and certainty, as you won't be able to read anything about "Le Sacre du Printemps" without also reading a reference to the premiere's riot.  ;)

Horse-Carriage
LeSacre-Riot
Mendelssohn-notagenius
Wagner-antiSemite
Mozart-Wunderkind

Franco

#107
October 21, 2009, 07:50:29 AM
Yes, the topic is Mendelssohn, not the idea of genius - which seems to be your obsession and one you trot out no matter who or what is the topic.

karlhenning

#108
October 21, 2009, 07:56:28 AM
Well, and what else would he do with all those turds he's been stockpiling his whole life through?

Josquin des Prez

#109
October 21, 2009, 07:57:30 AM
Quote from: Franco on October 21, 2009, 07:50:29 AM
Yes, the topic is Mendelssohn, not the idea of genius - which seems to be your obsession and one you trot out no matter who or what is the topic.

No, the topic is whether Mendelssohn should be placed next to Bach or Beethoven (that is, whether he should be considered a genius) or not.

Franco

#110
October 21, 2009, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 21, 2009, 07:57:30 AM
No, the topic is whether Mendelssohn should be placed next to Bach or Beethoven (that is, whether he should be considered a genius) or not.

Ah, I stand corrected.  I went back and read the opening post, and see what you mean.  A rather pointless way to talk about Mendelssohn, IMO.  You still flog the genius thing too much for my taste, but don't let that stop you and I am 100% confident it wouldn't.

Josquin des Prez

#111
October 21, 2009, 08:08:24 AM
Quote from: Franco on October 21, 2009, 08:07:15 AM
You still flog the genius thing too much for my taste

Its the only thing that matters as far as i'm concerned. Everything else is just window dressing.

karlhenning

#113
October 21, 2009, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on October 21, 2009, 08:08:34 AM


I recognized Mendelssohn in that picture right away!

karlhenning

#114
October 21, 2009, 08:11:35 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 21, 2009, 08:08:24 AM
Its the only thing that matters as far as i'm concerned.

Your obsession with it has not improved your understanding of it.  Nor is everyone in the world interested in your myopic tunnel-vision.  (Just saying.)

Scarpia

#115
October 21, 2009, 08:17:30 AM
Quote from: Josquin des Prez on October 21, 2009, 08:08:24 AM
Its the only thing that matters as far as i'm concerned. Everything else is just window dressing.

Then you don't matter?

karlhenning

#116
October 21, 2009, 08:23:20 AM
He doesn't look much in the window, either.

Leo K.

#117
April 28, 2012, 09:04:24 AM
Everytime I return to Mendelssohn's music, I love it more. My recent listening to his solo piano work, Piano Trio in D minor, and his symphonies (via Karajan's set) only confirms this again. There is a quality to Mendelssohn that draws me, but I cannot put into words.

8)

Scion7

#118
April 28, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
Although of course he later surpassed Mendelssohn, I think Felix's early compositions are superior to Wolfgang's.  He was the superior child prodigy.

Quite a bit of outstanding music from Mendelssohn!!!!    :)
Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

Philoctetes

#119
April 28, 2012, 03:10:15 PM
Quote from: Scion7 on April 28, 2012, 03:05:22 PM
Although of course he later surpassed Mendelssohn, I think Felix's early compositions are superior to Wolfgang's.  He was the superior child prodigy.

Quite a bit of outstanding music from Mendelssohn!!!!    :)

I don't know about that.

http://www.youtube.com/v/RS73OQPipkw
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