Cato's Grammar Grumble

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Karl Henning

Quote from: JBS on September 30, 2018, 12:55:29 PM
Putting Jesus in Jewish context can illuminate.
For instance the event commemorated by Palm Sunday almost certainly took place at this time of year, not the spring, if it took place at all. Perhaps it happened on an earlier visit to Jerusalem or perhaps Jesus in fact spent the last six months of his life there. But now (technically today is the last day, the holy day that starts tomorrow is actually a different festival) is Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles /Booths/Huts. One main feature is processions inside the synagogue (in Jesus time, this was done in the Temple) reciting hoshanot. The word derives from hoshana, meaning "Save/Deliver us!", and is likely the word from which Hosanna derives. While doing this, the participants hold the Four Species, usually called lulav from its most visible element, a palm frond.
IOW Jerusalemites marching around with palm leaves, crying Hoshana (Hosanna).

Most interesting, thanks.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"


Jo498

They are actually almost all spelling errors or is this part of the joke?
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Karl Henning

Quote from: Jo498 on October 18, 2018, 12:05:42 AM
They are actually almost all spelling errors or is this part of the joke?

It is indeed, although your true grammar nerd maintains a distinction between poor grammar and bad spelling  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ken B

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 18, 2018, 01:03:58 AM
It is indeed, although your true grammar nerd maintains a distinction between poor grammar and bad spelling  8)
"Orthography nerd" never caught on.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

André


Sydney Nova Scotia

Sydney is my name and games is my game

Ken B


Mandryka



Why is there an apostrophe in 100 years' [sic]  war?
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Ken B

Quote from: Mandryka on November 03, 2018, 10:41:25 PM


Why is there an apostrophe in 100 years' [sic]  war?
The possessive of a plural with s is s'. The dogs' kennels need cleaning. The voters' ignorance was profound.

JBS

Quote from: Ken B on November 03, 2018, 11:08:50 PM
The possessive of a plural with s is s'. The dogs' kennels need cleaning. The voters' ignorance was profound.

Actually, it's ----s's, even though the ----s' is generally used and comes more easily off the tongue.   But neither applies to the Hundred Years War, so demerit to Hyperion's graphics department.

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DaveF

Quote from: Ken B on October 22, 2018, 05:53:31 AM
A gift mug for grumblers



I want one, not only because I work in a library where my colleagues routinely make all of these errors, but because, apart from writing, I do nearly everything else left-handed, so in my sinister grip all these merry grammatical hints would be displayed to the world rather than being shared only with my shirt-front.  Unless the same text appears on the other side of the mug, of course.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

Ken B

Quote from: JBS on November 04, 2018, 09:05:46 AM
Actually, it's ----s's, even though the ----s' is generally used and comes more easily off the tongue.   But neither applies to the Hundred Years War, so demerit to Hyperion's graphics department.
No that is wrong. S's only when a singular ends in s. John Adams's



DaveF

Quote from: Mandryka on November 03, 2018, 10:41:25 PM


Why is there an apostrophe in 100 years' [sic]  war?

Probably because it's a war of 100 years, and the typesetter or designer has interpreted that 'of' to mean 'belonging to'.  You do see it quite a lot ("3 days' duration", "6 weeks' holiday" etc.) but it strikes me as fairly pedantic, if not indeed wrong.  Hyperion's word-order is rather odd, too.
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison

JBS


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Ken B

Quote from: JBS on November 04, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
Not the way I learned it.
That's why I said you were wrong Jeffrey.  :laugh:

Ken B

It's "The Hundred Years' War". Not everyone uses the apostrophe, but the punctilious usually do. Some examples follow.

Here's Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years'_War, history.com gets it right too
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-ages/hundred-years-war
Some publishers https://www.amazon.com/Hundred-Years-War-Anne-Curry/dp/1841762695/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1541382499&sr=8-19&keywords=100+years+war

So, it is not universally used, but is technically correct at least in the Queen's English. That is why it's there.  :)