Cato's Grammar Grumble

[Cato]

From "Inside Hollywood" in a story about the new Star Wars movie having a (sub)title:

The reveal comes as the movie finishes its final day of shooting (with many more months of post-production to come.)

And what is wrong with "revelation" ?        Too many syllables for Inside Hollywood? 

[Karl Henning]

Or "leak"   0:)      

[Jo498]

That would sound too apocalyptic.

[The Six]

From "Inside Hollywood" in a story about the new Star Wars movie having a (sub)title:

And what is wrong with "revelation" ?        Too many syllables for Inside Hollywood?

And what is wrong with reveal?

[Ken B]

And what is wrong with reveal?

Verb it is.

[Jay F]

From "Inside Hollywood" in a story about the new Star Wars movie having a (sub)title:

And what is wrong with "revelation" ?        Too many syllables for Inside Hollywood?

So many, it gives them a disconnect.

[The Six]

Verb it is.

Verbs become nouns all the time. No problem here.

Now this...


5 is just a random collection of words.

[Ken B]

Now this...


5 is just a random collection of words.

That's an agree. 

[aquablob]

I think the nominal reveal carries implications that revelation doesn't about the nature of the revealing—first, that it was hyped or anticipated beforehand, and second, that its execution was spectacular, shocking, or particularly dramatic. That's because the word is associated with climactic moments in magic tricks and cinematic narratives, as in "the [big] reveal." There's a formula: the viewer is ready for something extraordinary to happen but still hopes to have a "mind=blown" moment. Half the joy is in the guessing.

Anyway, it's pretty common usage now. Benign and useful, I'd say, though certainly it can be misused.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reveal_%28narrative%29

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000941.html

[The Six]

Yes, "reveal" certainly has connotations that "revelation" does not. It's a useful distinction.

[Cato]

Many thanks for the comments, and I understand the defense of the word: nevertheless, it grates my tympana.   

We will dominate effort plays.

Random collection of words is a slam-dunk description!   

[Karl Henning]

10-4, Eleanor!

[North Star]

Now this...

5 is just a random collection of words.

The whole thing looks like someone has used Google Translate.

[Cato]

The whole thing looks like someone has used Google Translate.

Actually, after looking more carefully at them, I find #3 to be highly disturbing!!!      0:)

[Ken B]

Actually, after looking more carefully at them, I find #3 to be highly disturbing!!!      0:)

You think it's a poor translate?

I am listening to a Haydn symphony right now. I think it's a good perform of a good compose. It's live and at the end you can hear loud applaud. A standing ovate.

[Karl Henning]

No good do goes unpunished.

[Cato]

You think it's a poor translate?

I am listening to a Haydn symphony right now. I think it's a good perform of a good compose. It's live and at the end you can hear loud applaud. A standing ovate.

No good do goes unpunished.

  And what about the opposite of using a verb as a noun:Imagination that!

[North Star]

No good do goes unpunished.

No good-doer goes unpunished. 

[Karl Henning]

Do-gooder! 

[North Star]

Do-gooder! 

I thought I used a smiley there, Karl.