Gurn's Classical Corner

[DavidW]

Wow seriously that's it... dang! they must focus on baroque era works then.

[Gurn Blanston]

Wow seriously that's it... dang! they must focus on baroque era works then.

No, they only started playing together just on and off a few years ago. The violin sonatas, and then with Queyras for the trios. I think Beethoven must have been just one of those things they wanted to do because they liked the music, rather than their being a full-time band. Pity, they are darned good together! I haven't seen any Baroque by them at all....

[DavidW]

The only one that I know about is the Beethoven sonatas by Staier and Sepec.

Thanks, I bought it.

[DavidW]

Is there only one PI recording of Hummel's trumpet concerto??

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I can't really find anything.

[Gurn Blanston]

No, although that's a good one (I want it myself).

There is this one which I have and enjoy:

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and this one which I would like to have and probably will by the time you read this:

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I wouldn't be surprised if there were others, but I don't know about them yet....



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[DavidW]

That's Haydn, I asked for Hummel.   But I'll remember that when I'm shopping for Haydn.

[Gurn Blanston]

That's Haydn, I asked for Hummel.   But I'll remember that when I'm shopping for Haydn.

Screw Hummel, go with Haydn...     Yeah, I have looked at that disk for the Haydn concerto several times and forgot what else was on it.   



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[SonicMan46]

Is there only one PI recording of Hummel's trumpet concerto??

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I can't really find anything.

Check out the Old Musical Instrument Thread HERE - own and enjoy this recording - pick up as soon as you can! 

[DavidW]

Alright Dave, your post on the other thread has convinced me.  And I found it as a mere $9 download on amazon so I'll buy it on my next splurge.

[Leo K.]

Screw Hummel, go with Haydn...     Yeah, I have looked at that disk for the Haydn concerto several times and forgot what else was on it.   



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Man, I sure love Haydn's Trumpet Concerto but I never hear an PI recording! I will have to correct that in the future!

[Gurn Blanston]

Man, I sure love Haydn's Trumpet Concerto but I never hear an PI recording! I will have to correct that in the future!

Leo, the Pinnock version is really a good choice; the trumpet version alone justifies the disk, while if you want to hear a good harpsichord version of Hob XVIII:11, this is as good as Koopman, maybe even a tad better. It's a good disk and under $10 in the Marketplace.

[Jared]

Leo, the Pinnock version is really a good choice; the trumpet version alone justifies the disk, while if you want to hear a good harpsichord version of Hob XVIII:11, this is as good as Koopman, maybe even a tad better. It's a good disk and under $10 in the Marketplace.

quite right too...

I think this might be the disk, to which you refer...

[Gurn Blanston]

quite right too...

I think this might be the disk, to which you refer...

Yep, that's the one. I ordered that Hogwood disk last night so I can compare them next week, but reviews comparing them give the nod to the Pinnock, at least the trumpet part.

[DavidW]

Actually we were talking about the Hummel concerto, Gurn was quick to derail it onto Haydn.

I looked at it, but not certain if it uses a keyed trumpet, and according to the description uses a rare late revision to the concerto.  I don't know about you Leon, but I'm going with sonic Dave's rec.

[Gurn Blanston]

I think it was originally written in E and only later transposed to Eb - but my real reason was because this disc included the mandolin work.

All true. But hf was looking for a PI work, and LMP/Shelley are not that, sad to say. Doesn't make them less very good, but they didn't fit the search requisite...

[Gurn Blanston]

OK, Hummelfan, here is the one to spend your hard earned on:

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Steele-Perkins is, despite the hyphenated name, a bitchin' good trumpeter. No need to mention that King's Consort is a fine band whether you like King or not.

[Gurn Blanston]

I have that one already   A very good recording.

So, I may go for the Shelley one - in order to 1) have another recording by a different kind of band, and 2) to get the mandolin work.

Seems like good reasoning to me! I have that mandolin work somewhere ( ) and distinctly remember enjoying it a lot. I will have to dig and see now where I put it. IIRC, it was a Chandos disk too, but I don't remember having that one you pictured. I wonder if senility has anything to do with this... 

[Jared]

Yep, that's the one. I ordered that Hogwood disk last night so I can compare them next week, but reviews comparing them give the nod to the Pinnock, at least the trumpet part.

It's a lovely disk Gurn, and gets a regular play at chez Butcher.. I think the Keyboard Concerto is a particular treat... 

[Jared]

I know you guys are talking about the Haydn Trumpet Concerto, but I am looking at the Hummel one paired with the Mandolin Concerto and was thnking of this

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And thoughts?

Leon: It's quite simple... you cannot go wrong with ANY of the Howard Shelley/ Hummel disks on Chandos... they are uniformly of a very high quality. He and Chandos have spent a great deal of time and effort researching, resurrecting and promoting the Orchestral music of of JNH, and it would be well worth your time exploring, my friend.. .. 

Aside No 1: What Shelley did for Hummel's Orchestral music, the late, great Richard Hickox did for Hummel's Masses and Sacred Choral Works... this series of three are an absolute MUST:



Aside No 2: Howard Shelley's disk of the Mendelssohn Piano Concertos with the London Mozart Players, also on Chandos (and no, I'm not a Chandos rep!) is also a great recording, and, played with smaller forces on Original instruments, makes a pleasing accompaniment to more Romantic versions...

[Gurn Blanston]

It's a lovely disk Gurn, and gets a regular play at chez Butcher.. I think the Keyboard Concerto is a particular treat... 

Yes, Pinnock does a bangup job with that concerto. I am a huge fortepiano fan, and since that work was composed in 1781, I always felt it should be a fortepiano work. But in reading about it, I discovered that Haydn didn't even have a fortepiano at the time (although I'm sure he was exposed to them in Vienna), and if he wrote it for Esterhazy that chances are it really was a harpsichord work. So that made me listen with new ears and now I rather like it either way (major turnabout for me!). Pity the oboe concerto is not by Haydn, or what i really mean is that he didn't write any oboe concerti. I am inordinately fond of the hautbois, as I am of Haydn...   But I listen to and enjoy it anyway.