The Cat Thread

[Pohjolas Daughter]

It's brilliant PD (cat who thinks he's a dog).

lol, yes, that cat is precious!  Are you referring to Marlin (the orange tabby)? I particularly love the footage of him as a kitten playing with the dogs, swimming, etc. 

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Yes, that's a great photo!

PD

[Szykneij]

Cat questions from Jeopardy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/calling-all-cat-lovers-can-you-answer-these-feline-jeopardy-questions/ss-AATCxcw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

[Irons]

A player has brought shame on a club I have supported all my life.
https://news.sky.com/story/kurt-zouma-booed-during-premier-league-match-after-horrific-video-of-defender-kicking-cat-emerges-12536709

I have not watched the video and have no intention of doing so. It was very difficult at the London Stadium last night. With the football world and beyond demanding Zouma must not play, Moyes chose to pick him. We won a close (boring) game 1-0 and Zouma being one of our best players made a difference. He has brought shame onto my club though. Clinging to excuses it doesn't compare to the despicable Mason Greenwood but it sure does not feel like it. 

[Pohjolas Daughter]

A player has brought shame on a club I have supported all my life.
https://news.sky.com/story/kurt-zouma-booed-during-premier-league-match-after-horrific-video-of-defender-kicking-cat-emerges-12536709

I have not watched the video and have no intention of doing so. It was very difficult at the London Stadium last night. With the football world and beyond demanding Zouma must not play, Moyes chose to pick him. We won a close (boring) game 1-0 and Zouma being one of our best players made a difference. He has brought shame onto my club though. Clinging to excuses it doesn't compare to the despicable Mason Greenwood but it sure does not feel like it.

I saw an article about that football player on the BBC website  yesterday I believe.   

PD

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Latest news:  https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60312876

PD

[Papy Oli]

A French animal foundation ("30 Millions d'Amis", famous in France for its founder's animal TV programme of the same name in the 70's-80's) is also suing Kurt Zouma for animal cruelty. I don't know how that would work out considering the event occurred in the UK but if it goes through, Zouma could get anything up to 4 years in jail. I have read reports that the French equivalent of the RSPCA (la S.P.A.) was also joining or considering their own the lawsuit.

[Irons]

A French animal foundation ("30 Millions d'Amis", famous in France for its founder's animal TV programme of the same name in the 70's-80's) is also suing Kurt Zouma for animal cruelty. I don't know how that would work out considering the event occurred in the UK but if it goes through, Zouma could get anything up to 4 years in jail. I have read reports that the French equivalent of the RSPCA (la S.P.A.) was also joining or considering their own the lawsuit.

Yes, I read that. Apparently animal cruelty is seen as a far greater crime in France then UK. I suppose it could mean as Prince Andrew can never set foot in America, Zouma is unable to return home, surely it will not come to that. But I would not be at all surprised if he never plays for his country again.

[vandermolen]

Zouma should be made to work (unpaid) for an animal charity - what an idiot! Filming the cruelty to his cat in front of his child was inexcusable.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Zouma should be made to work (unpaid) for an animal charity - what an idiot! Filming the cruelty to his cat in front of his child was inexcusable.

I couldn't bear to watch it, but you're saying for sure that he filmed it in front of his child?!  I thought that I read something about his brother filming it, so I'm a bit confused (bad enough there!).

PD

[vandermolen]

I couldn't bear to watch it, but you're saying for sure that he filmed it in front of his child?!  I thought that I read something about his brother filming it, so I'm a bit confused (bad enough there!).

PD

No. you're right PD - it was his brother but I don't think that alters anything. I don't think that Moyes (The West Ham manager) should have selected Zouma to play last week.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

No. you're right PD - it was his brother but I don't think that alters anything. I don't think that Moyes (The West Ham manager) should have selected Zouma to play last week.

And I agree with you that he shouldn't have been picked.  How old is his brother by the way?  And, yes, still horrible!  The thought though of him doing that in front of a probably young child (teaching them that what he was doing was o.k.) felt to me to be even worse when I initially read your posting.  Just my reaction.

I hope that he does work for and with a charity and learns (hopefully) what animals can go through in life...how it damages them...and also more about what animals need in life and how they react to things and people and what it means...and more.  From what I understand he had Bengal cats which can be quite the handful (from what I understand they are only a few generations from their half-wild parents as in a domestic cat mated with a wild breed).  https://www.wildcatsanctuary.org/education/species/hybrid-domestic/what-is-a-hybrid-domestic/  From that website:

"The Bengal cat breed resulted from cross breeding an Asian Leopard Cat (ALC-Felis bengalensis) with the domestic cat (Felis catus). The first three filial generations (F1 – F3) of these hybrid animals are referred to as the "foundation" generations."  The website is for an organization that specializes in wild cat rescues and is apparently being swamped by Bengal owners who weren't prepared to deal with what they had paid for.  From what I understand (according to that website) some states allow Bengals...others are more regulated (has to be at least past a certain F generation), etc.  I don't know about in the UK.  There's a lot of interesting information and thoughts there to think about in any event (about breeding domestic cats with wild cats).

In any event, I hope that the cats find a safe and loving home.

PD

[Irons]

No. you're right PD - it was his brother but I don't think that alters anything. I don't think that Moyes (The West Ham manager) should have selected Zouma to play last week.

Which is a universal and understandable position, Jeffrey. Moyes is pragmatic, I knew he would pick Zouma. Moyes is right though in saying we have to be careful where this is heading. Zouma did a maronic act but we all need to stop for a moment. With social media the world has become a dangerous place of which Caroline Flack is a prime example. Zouma has stood up in the dressing room and apologised to the players, he is ashamed of what he did and accepts all punishment, of which running out in the King Power Stadium this afternoon will be part.
Many of us have committed a stupid act in our life but thankfully shown forgiveness and given a second chance, but it is far easier for us not being in the public eye. Zouma isn't evil, just stupid. Stupidity is not a valid reason to crucify the guy.   

[Szykneij]

Which is a universal and understandable position, Jeffrey. Moyes is pragmatic, I knew he would pick Zouma. Moyes is right though in saying we have to be careful where this is heading. Zouma did a maronic act but we all need to stop for a moment. With social media the world has become a dangerous place of which Caroline Flack is a prime example. Zouma has stood up in the dressing room and apologised to the players, he is ashamed of what he did and accepts all punishment, of which running out in the King Power Stadium this afternoon will be part.
Many of us have committed a stupid act in our life but thankfully shown forgiveness and given a second chance, but it is far easier for us not being in the public eye. Zouma isn't evil, just stupid. Stupidity is not a valid reason to crucify the guy.

I agree with most of what you are saying, except that I think it's more than stupidity. To derive humor or pleasure from hurting another living creature, while maybe not indicative of pure evil, does betray a troubling character trait that can't be overlooked.

[vandermolen]

Which is a universal and understandable position, Jeffrey. Moyes is pragmatic, I knew he would pick Zouma. Moyes is right though in saying we have to be careful where this is heading. Zouma did a maronic act but we all need to stop for a moment. With social media the world has become a dangerous place of which Caroline Flack is a prime example. Zouma has stood up in the dressing room and apologised to the players, he is ashamed of what he did and accepts all punishment, of which running out in the King Power Stadium this afternoon will be part.
Many of us have committed a stupid act in our life but thankfully shown forgiveness and given a second chance, but it is far easier for us not being in the public eye. Zouma isn't evil, just stupid. Stupidity is not a valid reason to crucify the guy.

Very good point Lol which I fully respect - especially coming from you. However, Andrew Pierce in his newspaper review the other night described Zouma as a cretin and a moron and, as a cat-lover, I would go along with this. I note that Moyzes (sorry Moyes, I was confusing him with a composer!) says that Zouma is now getting help - which is a good thing and, despite his despicable act, I don't think that Zouma is beyond redemption - I hope not anyway. I did watch the horrible video and it was clear that Zouma was, at least, not trying to kill his cat. I wonder if he (Zouma not the cat) was on drugs. That's what my wife thought. I don't think that this reflects on West Ham at all, although I think that Moyes should still have dropped Zouma for that first match. To continue to play him sends a very poor message to children about what is acceptable behaviour with a cat/dog or any other pet. And yes, although I am not of Christian background 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone' rings very true.

[vandermolen]

You're a better man than me. I couldn't bring myself to watch that video, and made do with a photo 'still' from it. I still remember a radio broadcast one morning before school, reporting on two school kids who had been caught tying a kitten onto the railway tracks near us. It made me sick to the stomach then, to the point of hating remembering it decades later; and the footballer moron makes me feel precisely the same way now.

I was commenting about it to my next door neighbour, only to be met with, 'Well, people who eat meat can't complain when someone is cruel to animals'. She's vegan, you see. Radically and proselytizingly so, I'm afraid. Any time I mention our mutual neighbour from over the back and his inability to keep pets properly (one of his rabbits froze to death six weeks ago... and this is a mild winter!), she brings up sausages or such like.

I didn't dare to reply that someone that loves animals to the point of not eating them shouldn't be whitewashing specific examples of aniimal cruelty either, because I need to borrow her ladder later this week!

Anyway. To chase away the bad taste, please have a picture of my Harper enjoying some pre-Bedtime Stravinsky and being deeply in love with me (or devising a cunning plan to eat me, I can never be sure with him!)... I hope it's not one I've posted earlier, anyway.

I'd go for the 'deeply in love' explanation of Harper's expression 
Your neighbours comments aren't very helpful are they? I'm vegetarian, more or less, by default (wife vegetarian, daughter vegan) but at the school where I work I sneak in for a secret meat lunch most weeks. Here is our cat Oliver having another active day:

[Szykneij]

Happy Valentine's Day

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Happy Valentine's Day

  Love it! 

PD

[vandermolen]

  Love it! 

PD

+1

[vandermolen]

Owl Kitty Titanic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEPfM3jSoBw

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Owl Kitty Titanic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEPfM3jSoBw

Brilliant! 

PD