Rihm's Wolf Gang

[petrarch]

Both those lieder CDs are quite good and thoroughly enjoyable. They are both worth it, especially comparing the tenor vs soprano performances of the Heiner Müller cycle.

[torut]

I listened to Ende der Handschrift of the Prégardien/Mauser album on the Col Legno web site, and I too think it is very good. Prégardien's voice is smooth and comforting. Yes, it's quite interesting to hear the tenor version (original) and the soprano version of the work.

Modern Lieder- scary!!!

That's what I was afraid of but I was immediately captivated when I heard some audio samples of the Lessers' album.

[torut]

WOLFGANG RIHM, LUIGI NONO - PASSION TEXTS - James Weeks, Exaudi (AECD 1441)

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Volcal works of Rihm and Nono.
Will be released on November 18, 2014.

[not edward]

Rihm has won this year's Grawemeyer Award for In-Schrift 2.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/entertainment/music/2014/11/30/german-composers-work-wins-grawemeyer-award/19702845/

[UB]

Edward have you heard this piece and if so is it like the 1995 IN-SCHRIFT 2?

[not edward]

Haven't heard it. I sort of hope it's not like the original IN-SCHRIFT because I thought it was rather weak...

[lescamil]

I've heard In-Schrift II... can't say I remember a damn thing about it. I'll go back and listen. I've tried to keep tabs on the Grawemeyer winners in recent years.

[lescamil]

http://5against4.com/2014/12/07/wolfgang-rihm-in-schrift-ii-world-premiere/

Here it is from our friend Simon Cummings at 5-against-4.

[5against4]

http://5against4.com/2014/12/07/wolfgang-rihm-in-schrift-ii-world-premiere/

Here it is from our friend Simon Cummings at 5-against-4.

Yes indeed - enjoy! i'll be interested to hear if esteemed forum members rate it as highly as i do. Sometimes the Grawemeyer choices seem a bit peculiar to me - but not this time.

[not edward]

Been listening to Rihm's Seraphin-Symphonie from the 2011 Donaueschingen collection on Neos, and liking it a lot. It's one of Rihm's "palimpsest" pieces, where he essentially writes a symphony for full orchestra over the top of a lengthy ensemble work, but the clashes and contrasts work very well, and the more radical original music helps counterbalance the more conservative symphonic writing.

[not edward]

Coming out early in the new year, volume 7 of the Haenssler Rihm series.

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Good to see a commercial recording of Two Other Movements (though I'm not sure about Norrington as conductor in this piece); the 1980s piece Abkehr is also a first recording.

[snyprrr]

Coming out early in the new year, volume 7 of the Haenssler Rihm series.

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Good to see a commercial recording of Two Other Movements (though I'm not sure about Norrington as conductor in this piece); the 1980s piece Abkehr is also a first recording.

I'm stuck on Rihm... too much available, and I haven't checked out any of the Hansslers, though, I'd probably go for the one with 'Styx..." on it. Also I was interested in the "piano concerto", is it 'Sphere'? Yea, he's just too prolific now for me... I have:

1) Arditti disc: SQs 3/5/8

2) Mutter w/Berg DG

3) Fremde szenen(?) Piano Trios on CPO

4) String Trios on CPO

5) SQ 4 on EMI -ABQ

6) one vocal piece on that 'Wein Modern/Abbado' disc

7) the big DG 20/21 release... what was it called?


So, I've really not got any orchestral or concertos, but, not much has seared my ears, so, mmmm,... eh?.... again, the two discs I mentioned would probably be where I'd go....

[CRCulver]

My claim that Boulez and Rihm didn't cross paths was wrong, it seems. Boulez conducted world premiere of Pol – Kolchis – Nucleus back in 1996 (according to the Universal Edition website).

[Scion7]

and i love his big forehead!

He's obviously the first step to the Outer Limits episode, The Sixth Finger . . .

 

[snyprrr]

ORGAN MUSIC:

Already quite a few recordings. Haven't heard.




PIANO MUSIC:

In a nutshrell, there is one 3CD set out there touting 'Piano Music: 1966-2000' which has all the Klavierstucke, the 'Night' piece, and some short pieces. Rihm's Piano Music has not been received all that well, and most say not to bother here. From what I've heard, it's just kind of ugly and raw, but not really attractive, just... brrr, somewhat dreary German angst-rock, lol.

2 PIANO MUSIC:

The main "work" here is the one that is coupled with Bartok's Sonata, I think on Wergo or ColLegno. This work comes in a few guises ("Schrift" pieces), with different titles, on various CDs, but, like a lot of his output, it is based on the initial piece; I believe this is in the Nono phase, and isn't all that well received. I think there are also some Schubert inspired works for 2 Pianos, but I haven't explored. What I've heard so far is plink/plonk/silence in the Nono vein, - I don't like it...

PIANO CONCERTOS:

There's the concerto 'Sphere' on ColLegno, but CRC says the sound is bad 'live'. This piece is expanded to 2 Pianos in 'Sphere Within Sphere' on another Wergo disc. Then there are the piece pieces 'Notturno' and 'Capriccio' on the Kairos disc with the Arditti concerto. I think there might be a third, earlier Piano Concerto, under a guise, but I can't be sure.

no order:

Piano Concerto No.2 (1?)           ...new.....
CON?CERTO!                         ........new.....
Sotto Voce: Notturno & Capriccio (Kairos)
Sphere (ColLg)
Sphere Within Sphere (2 Pianos) (Wergo)
Triple Concerto                     ..........new.............





VIOLIN & PIANO:

The big piece 'Antlitz'(?) seems to come from Rihm's Nono phase, which in this case doesn't do much for me. There appears to be THREE whole different recitals going on- MDG, CPO, and Naxos.

VIOLIN CONCERTOS:

1) 'Lichszwan'g(?) Hanssler......... the most Avant??..........
2) 'Gesungengd Zeit'(?) DG
3) 'Drittes Musik' Hanssler..........Avant??.............
4) 'Lichtes Spiel'  DG Brahmsian??
5) 'Coll'Arco' Hanssler subdued Romantic Expressionist

6) Triple Concerto           .........new.........



CELLO & PIANO:

It seems the main piece is, again, 'Antlitz', with the solo piece 'Uber der Line'(?) being the newer work. The latter piece comes in various guises for various instruments.

CELLO CONCERTOS:

(not in order)
1) Concerto in Einem Satz (CRC was ambivalent)
2) Doppelgesang (Double Concerto) (liked)
7) 'Monodram'
6) 'Styz und Lethe'
3) 'Uber de Linie'
4)Verzagabane (not right title)                         ............new...........
5) Triple Concerto



VIOLA:

Not finding music interest here. One Viola Concerto, and 'Uber die Linie XXX' for viola concerto.



'Morphonie' (Concerto for String Quartet and Orchestra)
'CONCERTO' Dithyrambe (Concerto for String Quartet and Orchestra) Arditti


DUOS:

There might be a small piece for 2 Violins on a various disc I have ('Compassion' Angel?) and there is a nother duo, 'Duomonolog' which features on one or two recitals.  Also the 'Dyade'(?) from the 2nd Mutter disc.




STRING TRIO:

'Music for Three String Instruments'' is one of Rihm's best pieces*********************************


There is also a (actually two separate) very good "bass" String Trio; one of his best*********************************


PIANO TRIO:

The massive 'Fremde Szenen' is also one of Rihm's best works*********************************




CLARINET TRIO:

On a Jubal Trio disc. Haven't heard. 'Gesangeszene'

CLARINET:
'Vier Male'

CLARINET QUINTET

'Vier Studien fur Klarinette Quintett' 40mins.



Not much going on with other DUOS, but there is a Kairos CD of 'Trios', which, frankly, isn't all that. Also the disc of Kairos 'Chiffres'. Then the CPO 'Chiffres'.


Musik fur Oboe mit Orchestra
Musik fur Klarinette mit Orchestra
Uber de Linie (Clarinet Concerto)
Horn Concerto            .................................new...........................
Marysas (Trumpet Concerto)

[snyprrr]

String Quartet No.1
String Quartet No.2



String Quartet No.3 'Im Innersten- 1976, one of the first flowerings of Rihm

String Quartet No.4- it's just a treat to have the ABQ play this- very agitated
String Quartet No.5 a high point
String Quartet No.6 'Blaubuch'- very noisy



String Quartet No.7 'Verunderungenen'(?)- I felt this to be one of the strongest and most provocative sonically
String Quartet No.8- maybe the highpoint?


String Quartet No.9 'Quartettsatz'
'Quartettstudie'



String Quartet No.10- twihm rompo smaller mvmts. surround a 'Battaglia' which is quite a Rihm romp



String Quartet No.12

String Quartet No.11 'Quartettstudie' 37mins.



String Quartet No.13- I like this the best of the last three

'Grave' 18mins.
'Epilog'
'Geste su Vedova'
'In Verbundenheit' 3:30



'Interscriptum' for Piano Quintet
'Superscriptum'


'Fetzen' Series (with Accordion)


'Et Lux' Vocal Quartet/String Quartet 60"
'Akt und Tag' Soprano/SQ

[snyprrr]

ORGAN MUSIC:

Already quite a few recordings. Haven't heard.

'Ubennant IV'  Organ & Orchestra



PIANO MUSIC:

In a nutshrell, there is one 3CD set out there touting 'Piano Music: 1966-2000' which has all the Klavierstucke, the 'Night' piece, and some short pieces. Rihm's Piano Music has not been received all that well, and most say not to bother here. From what I've heard, it's just kind of ugly and raw, but not really attractive, just... brrr, somewhat dreary German angst-rock, lol.

2 PIANO MUSIC:

The main "work" here is the one that is coupled with Bartok's Sonata, I think on Wergo or ColLegno. This work comes in a few guises ("Schrift" pieces), with different titles, on various CDs, but, like a lot of his output, it is based on the initial piece; I believe this is in the Nono phase, and isn't all that well received. I think there are also some Schubert inspired works for 2 Pianos, but I haven't explored.

'Mask' 2 Pianos
'Uber Schrift' 2 Pianos
'Schrift Um Schrift' 2 Pianos, 2 Percussion
'La Musique Cruese la Ciel'
'Sphere Within Sphere'

PIANO CONCERTOS:

There's the concerto 'Sphere' on ColLegno, but CRC says the sound is bad 'live'. This piece is expanded to 2 Pianos in 'Sphere Within Sphere' on another Wergo disc. Then there are the piece pieces 'Notturno' and 'Capriccio' on the Kairos disc with the Arditti concerto. I think there might be a third, earlier Piano Concerto, under a guise, but I can't be sure.

'Sphere'
[Sphere Within Sphere[
'Notturno-Capriccio'
'CON PIANO? CERTO!'
Piano Concerto No.2
(Piano) Trio Concerto (2014)






VIOLIN & PIANO:

The big piece 'Antlitz'(?) seems to come from Rihm's Nono phase, which in this case doesn't do much for me. There appears to be THREE whole different recitals going on- MDG, CPO, and Naxos.

'Uber der Linie VII' Solo Violin


VIOLIN CONCERTOS:

1) 'Lichszwan'g(?) Hanssler
2) 'Gesungengd Zeit'(?) DG
3) 'Drittes Musik' Hanssler
4) 'Lichtes Spiel'(?) DG
5) 'Coll'Arco' Hanssler
6) 'Gedicht des Malers' (2014)




CELLO & PIANO:

It seems the main piece is, again, 'Antlitz' ('von weit'), with the solo piece 'Uber der Line'(?) being the newer work. The latter piece comes in various guises for various instruments.

'Protokol- ein Traum' 8 Cellos


CELLO CONCERTOS:

(not in order)
1) Concerto in Einem Satz (CRC was ambivalent)
2) Doppelgesang (Double Concerto) (liked)
3) 'Uber de Linie'
4) 'Styx und Lethe'
5) 'Monodram'
6) 'Versuchung' (2008-09)


VIOLA:

Not finding music interest here.

'Canzona' 4 Violas
'Canzona Nuova'


Viola Concerto
'Uber der Linie IV'



'Morphonie' (Concerto for String Quartet and Orchestra)
'CONCERTO' (Concerto for String Quartet and Orchestra) Arditti


DUOS:

There might be a small piece for 2 Violins on a various disc I have ('Compassion' Angel?) and there is a nother duo, 'Duomonolog' which features on one or two recitals.  Also the 'Dyade'(?) from the 2nd Mutter disc.

'Am Horizant' Violin, Cello, Accordion
'Uber der Linie VI' Flute, Violin, Cello



STRING TRIO:

'Music for Three String Instruments'' is one of Rihm's best pieces*********************************


There is also a very good "bass" String Trio; one of his best*********************************
And also a sequel 'En Nuce'


PIANO TRIO:

The massive 'Fremde Szenen' is also one of Rihm's best works*********************************




CLARINET TRIO:

On a Jubal Trio disc. Haven't heard.

CLARINET:
'Vier Male'

CLARINET QUINTET

4 Studies for Clarinet Quintet (40")




Not much going on with other DUOS, but there is a Kairos CD of 'Trios', which, frankly, isn't all that. Also the disc of Kairos 'Chiffres'. Then the CPO 'Chiffres'.


Musik fur Oboe mit Orchestra
Musik fur Klarinette mit Orchestra
Uber de Linie (Clarinet Concerto)
Horn Concerto (2013-14)
'Marysas' Concerto for Trumpet
'Sound As Will' Trumpet & Ensemble
Canzona per Sonare 'Uber der Linie V' AltoTrombone & Orchestra
'Psalmus' Concerto for Bassoon

Sextett (2013-2014) Clarinet, Horn, SQ

[snyprrr]

Morphonie (1974) SQ & Orchestra

Sub-Kontur (1974-75)

Cuts and Dissolves (1976)

Lichtszwang- Cto f Violin No.1
                                                                                              FAUST AND YORICK
Abgesangesszene 1-5 (1979)                                         JAKOB LENZ

La Musique Cruese la Ciel- Cto 2 Pianos
Doppelgesang No.1- Double Concerto

TUTUGURI (1980-82)

                                                                                  Chiffre I (1982), Chiffre II, Chiffre III

Viola Concerto
Doppelgesang No.2
Monodram

Schwartzer und Roter Tanz (from Tutuguri)

Chiffre V

Dis-Kontur

Fusees (1984)
Schatterstucke (1984)
Vorgefuhl
Abkehr

Chiffre VII

Dammerung
Umriss

Spur

Aufzechnung: Dammerung und Umriss                 DER HAMLETMACHINE

Ubennant (1986)
Ubennant II
Ubennant III

Compresenze
Danse
Blick
Splitter

KLANGBESCHREIBUNG 1-3

CHIFFRE-ZYKLUS (1982-1988)


MUSIC IN MEMORIAM LUIGI NONO:
Abgehwande I
Abgehwande II
Cantus Firmus
Ricercare
Umfassung
La Lugubre Gondola

Schwebende Begengung (1989)                             DIE EROBERUNG DIE MEXICO
Dunkles Spiel
Ins Offene...
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THIS CLOSES OUT THE 1980S ORCHESTRAL WORKS (MOSTLY)

[snyprrr]

ORCHESTRAL WORKS 1990-2016

Gesungene Zeit (Violin Concrto No.2) 1991-92
Dritte Musik (Violin Concerto No.3)

Sphere
IN-SCHRIFT

Vers un Symphonie Fleuve 1-3 (1992-95) +4

Musik fur Oboe und Orchestra
Styx und Lethe (Cello Concerto)

Ernster Gesang
Ernster Gesang mit Lied




Marsyas (Trumpet Concerto)
Musik fur Klarinette und Orchestra
Sotto Voce (Piano Concerto)
"CONCERTO" Dithyrambe

Spiegel und Fluss
Im Anfang

Verbogene Formen
JAGDEN UND FORMEN (1995-2001)
Gejagte Formen
Nach-Schrift

Viola Concerto No.2 (Uber die Linie II) 2000'2002
Canzona per Sonare (Alto Trombone Concerto)
Das Lesen der Schrift

Two Other Movements
Ubennant V (Organ Concerto)
Konzert in Einem Satz (Cello Concerto)
Coll'Arco (Violin Concerto)
Psalmus (Bassoon Concerto)



VERWANDLUNG 1-4 2002
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NAHE-FERN 1-4 Symphony "Nahe fern"[/b]
"Seraphim" Symphony

[snyprrr]

ORCHESTRAL SONGS

'O Notte' (baritone; 7mins.) (Bayer)

"Holderlin piece" (Abbado/SONY)

"Rilke piece" ('Orchestral Songs Mahler/Rihm' CPO).....new..........


'Depart' choral  (Abbado/DG1)

bildlos/weglos (Abbado/DG2)

Frau/Stimme (ColLegno, Hannsler)

Frage (Wergo)