Are there womenfolk on this forum?

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Sergeant Rock

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Sarge

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"


Brian


Tapio Dmitriyevich

#43
Beware: Evil generalisation following. Booooh!
There's almost no womenfolk here: Women don't like european classical music which has a history of tragedy, lament and boombast, basically. Narrowed down: War and death. Women like spring, flute, dances: Life and peace.
I can see this with my own wife. No need for a Bruckner 8, but for instance, Brahms Hungarian dances are alright. Or, spring is coming, things like Nielsens "Tagen letter".
Also my concert neighbors (2 women aged 50+,70+): Left the concert after the Pause and missed a) Shosta Sym. #1 and b) Bruckner 7. Sheer heresy. They like the more colored, dancy things.

Summa Summarum: Classical Concert visiting couples always include one consumer and one slave.

DavidRoss

Hmmm.  At the classical concerts I attend women comprise about half the audience.  The string and wind sections of most orchestras I've seen in the past several years generally have as many women as men performers.  Featured soloists on many instruments and voice are just as likely to be women as men these days.  My experience regarding my wife's tastes more nearly parallels yours, however.  Though classically trained and a former professional musician, my wife does not care for Bruckner at all but does like Brahms's Hungarian Dances.  She also has a hard time with Mahler and detests Wagner.  But she loves Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn, Sibelius, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Rachmaninov, Ravel, Poulenc, and Debussy.  To me it seems that she just has good taste and little tolerance for tedious self-indulgence.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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Que

In my experience, women absolutely loath Wagner.
Not very surprising, his music being one continious stream of Testosteron... My ex described him as "a self obsessed wanker", which seems an fair description ;D

Which does not mean that his music is not beautiful BTW. 8)

Q

prémont

Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Tapio Dmitriyevich

Quote from: premont on March 19, 2009, 11:37:06 PMOr maybe "taget letter"??
"Taagen letter" for Flute and Harp. I think this one (cannot listen to it currently, lack of audio: http://www.gehrmans.se/shop/info.asp?CGkod=3613

prémont

Quote from: Wurstwasser on March 20, 2009, 04:25:16 AM
"Taagen letter" for Flute and Harp. I think this one (cannot listen to it currently, lack of audio: http://www.gehrmans.se/shop/info.asp?CGkod=3613

Yes of course I know this small piece of music, which was intended as stage music
in Helge Rode´s play: Moderen. Just that your spelling gave me other associations.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Senta

Well, Wagner is one of my absolute favorite composers...I also tend to like anything loud and angsty...as well quite love modern/new music. I guess I'm a bit different... :)

I maintain there are many women who like the more challenging classical, though they just don't post on forums to the same frequency as men.

karlhenning

Quote from: Senta on March 20, 2009, 06:34:18 AM
I maintain there are many women who like the more challenging classical, though they just don't post on forums to the same frequency as men.

This is also my experience.

matti

Quote from: Que on March 19, 2009, 11:21:31 PM
In my experience, women absolutely loath Wagner.
Not very surprising, his music being one continious stream of Testosteron... My ex described him as "a self obsessed wanker", which seems an fair description ;D

Which does not mean that his music is not beautiful BTW. 8)

Q

Great material for a syllogism!

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Wurstwasser on March 19, 2009, 09:24:52 PM
Beware: Evil generalisation following. Booooh!
There's almost no womenfolk here: Women don't like european classical music which has a history of tragedy, lament and boombast, basically. Narrowed down: War and death. Women like spring, flute, dances: Life and peace.

Sorry i have to interrupt your bout of self inflicted misandry, but that's just nonsense. The reason there are so few women here or everywhere else for that matter is that women, as a general rule, are not as conceptually evolved as men. That's all there is to it. Their brains are more suited to deal with the problems of everyday life, while men are perpetually haunted by visions and ideas, 99% of which are just incomprehensible to women.

jwinter

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on March 20, 2009, 07:17:49 AM
Sorry i have to interrupt your bout of self inflicted misandry, but that's just nonsense. The reason there are so few women here or everywhere else for that matter is that women, as a general rule, are not as conceptually evolved as men. That's all there is to it. Their brains are more suited to deal with the problems of everyday life, while men are perpetually haunted by visions and ideas, 99% of which are just incomprehensible to women.

Wow, I really hope that was an attempt at satire...
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

nut-job

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on March 20, 2009, 07:17:49 AM
Sorry i have to interrupt your bout of self inflicted misandry, but that's just nonsense. The reason there are so few women here or everywhere else for that matter is that women, as a general rule, are not as conceptually evolved as men. That's all there is to it. Their brains are more suited to deal with the problems of everyday life, while men are perpetually haunted by visions and ideas, 99% of which are just incomprehensible to women.

I can believe you are haunted by visions and ideas, 99% of which are incomprehensible to men and women.  The technical term is "dissociative disorder."

Quote from: jwinter on March 20, 2009, 07:27:47 AM
Wow, I really hope that was an attempt at satire...

Sadly, no.

karlhenning

Quote from: jwinter on March 20, 2009, 07:27:47 AM
Wow, I really hope that was an attempt at satire...

Well, it does start with his favorite invented word: "misandry."

Josquin des Prez

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 19, 2009, 11:27:16 AM
For Josquin: Mrs. Rock in a burka

Sarge

The Muslims are no more of an extreme then we are, they just point towards the opposite direction. We like to think ourselves superior but our sex obsessed society is equally barbarous, perhaps even more so.

jwinter

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 20, 2009, 07:37:33 AM
Well, it does start with his favorite invented word: "misandry."

*Actually that's a real word, though I've very seldom seen it used outside of a crossword puzzle.  M-W 3rd unabridged defines it as "a hatred of men... opposed to misogyny".  I don't find it's usage in the context of this thread to be particularly enlightening, though.

*Apologies, I have a dictionary on my Palm, couldn't resist the urge to geek out!  :)
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

Tapio Dmitriyevich

Quote from: Josquin des Prez on March 20, 2009, 07:17:49 AMSorry i have to interrupt your bout of self inflicted misandry, but that's just nonsense. The reason there are so few women here or everywhere else for that matter is that women, as a general rule, are not as conceptually evolved as men. That's all there is to it. Their brains are more suited to deal with the problems of everyday life, while men are perpetually haunted by visions and ideas, 99% of which are just incomprehensible to women.
??? No misandry here at all. I've heard a lot about nature and also a lot about democratic consensus societies denying nature of the human being: But hey, this is completely new to me. a) Is this a satire attempt, b) any scientists stating this c) do you really think this applies to a modern human being, who aren't hunters and gatherers any more?

karlhenning

Quote from: jwinter on March 20, 2009, 07:45:32 AM
*Actually that's a real word, though I've very seldom seen it used outside of a crossword puzzle.  M-W 3rd unabridged defines it as "a hatred of men... opposed to misogyny".  I don't find it's usage in the context of this thread to be particularly enlightening, though.

But, of recent coinage (thus, invented).  There's an older post of mine somewhere or other, but the word was nowhere to be found in even the supplement to the OED . . . .