Flamenco!

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zamyrabyrd

March 25, 2009, 03:29:42 AM
Are there any other Flamenco freaks here besides myself (and Cecilia Bartoli)? Youtube has opened up new possibilities for enjoyment and even tutorials for learning or reviewing. (The latter is the case with me--tried to learn Sevillanas quite a few years ago, now can practice without embarassment).

Here are two for starters:
The beautiful Lola Flores in the film "Sevillanas" by Carlos Saura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xezsfiFA-eI&feature=related

The ultimate Sevillanas from the same film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XIOty_3uNE&feature=related

ZB



"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Brünnhilde forever

#1
March 25, 2009, 05:14:57 AM
Great new thread, thank you!

You mentioned Carlo Saura; how about his hit film Carmen?? Fits right into this Opera thread, plus we have Paco de Lucia play on his guitar a Bach Fugue, a small portion, but it's Bach.  8)

If I have the wrong name for the guitarist, sorry, you give us the right one, please. Not Paco Pena?

zamyrabyrd

#2
March 25, 2009, 09:43:15 AM
Hi there,

The film Carmen had locally a kind of cult following, so at least up to and including the early 90's dancing schools had their more than usual signups for flamenco classes. From the latter and from the film itself I learned that Spanish music is much different from the stylized versions of French composers, though beautiful and charming in themselves. This was well apparent from the beginning of the film where Paco de Lucia is frustrated while trying to get a grip on "Pres des ramparts de Seville" and ends up doing his own improvisation with a few others clapping the beats.

Structurally, flamenco music is framed by a repeating rhythm over usually 12 units. So it may be closer to the medieval "ordo" and certainly the scales, ornaments and even intervals are not the standard Western musical material from at least the Renaissance onwards.
The matrons of the village (fantastic expressions, I'd say) set the beat here in "La Tabacalera":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA07De_iOJc

Laura and Cristina leer at each other like cats while the guy at the sewing machine hums along. I must have rerun this scene a few hundred times on videotape.

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Frumaster

#3
April 02, 2009, 12:15:49 PM
I have a flare for flamenco guitar...usualy unaccompanied.  I don't know too much about it, but the rhythmic structures have always intrigued me.  As anther poster mentioned, they are all based on a 12-beat model so they are usually quite complex and keep you off-balance as a listener.  Very colorful music, wish I knew more.  I know of Paco DeLucia and thats about it.

Brünnhilde forever

#4
April 02, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
I am surprised none of our guitar playing members had anything to contribute to this thread.  :o

Toledobass? - Haffner?  ???

Frumaster

#5
April 02, 2009, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: Brünnhilde forever on April 02, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
I am surprised none of our guitar playing members had anything to contribute to this thread.  :o

Toledobass? - Haffner?  ???

Flamenco guitar is extremely alien to most guitar players.  I have a friend who is a great jazz guitarist, but he couldn't even begin to play flamenco if you asked him.  I'm not saying flamenco is harder than other styles, but it requires a very unique set of skills and knowledge...almost like a different instrument.

Ciel_Rouge

#6
April 23, 2009, 05:42:11 PM
I have two words for ya  ;D MISSA FLAMENCA:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Missa-Criolla-Misa-Luba-Flamenca/dp/B001N5FBHI

Apart from that, I enjoy Carlos Saura and I'm also looking forward to finding out more about flamenco.

zamyrabyrd

#7
June 03, 2009, 07:19:59 AM
Does anyone want to hear Rita Streich sing "Les Filles de Cadix"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT5N7st3Im8&feature=related

Not exactly Flamenco, but at least a Bolero, in rhythm.

This is also pretty good, Galli-Curci from an earlier generation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVKCzupijTU&feature=related

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

San Antone

#9
May 20, 2015, 09:46:46 AM
Count me in.  I just watched an excellent, short video about the day and night in the life of a guitarist in Seville who has been at it for thirteen years and still learning.

http://video.newyorker.com/watch/notes-from-all-over-solea-the-flamenco-of-seville

A show from a club in Barcelona

https://www.youtube.com/v/9YJWZDncb3c
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