Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)

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Opus106

Quote from: mszczuj on March 03, 2012, 05:01:32 AM
Don't you ever dance to Die Grosse Fuge this way?

Yes, Karl, don't you? Even Beethoven did. ;)
Regards,
Navneeth

Leon

#1061
I had forgotten about this disc that had been hiding on my Wish List for months until this weekend:

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Now the good news is these are first rate performances on period instruments, which has been a rarity for the Beethoven piano trios.  But the news gets even better: judging by how they are labeled, the Castel Trio has recorded the complete piano trios on period instruments:

Pardon the fact that the images do not reproduce but the links will take you to the pages: [fixed!, Que]




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This would all be good news indeed if not for the fact that most of these appear to be OOP   They are available  from marketplace sellers or, for two of the volumes, as downloads.

The one I bought looks like it may be a reissue, so the others may follow suit - but you never know.

:)

Ataraxia

Quote from: Greg on March 02, 2012, 08:25:21 AM
He's the favorite composer here and between my post and yours, over a month...  ???

People think it's cool to concentrate on lesser composers to show how "hip" they are.  0:)

Karl Henning

 Quote from: MN Dave on Today at 04:16:00 PM
People think it's cool to concentrate on lesser composers to show how "hip" they are.  0:)
 
I'm cryin' some more here.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ataraxia

Quote from: karlhenning on March 05, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: MN Dave on Today at 04:16:00 PM
People think it's cool to concentrate on lesser composers to show how "hip" they are.  0:)
 
I'm cryin' some more here.

;D

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: MN Dave on March 05, 2012, 11:16:00 AM
People think it's cool to concentrate on lesser composers to show how "hip" they are.  0:)

Rued Langgaard, Albéric Magnard, Franz Schmidt, Fartein Valen, Havergal Brian...I'm just so fucking cool  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Throw in some Schnittke, Sarge, and you'll get a free beret!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ataraxia

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on March 05, 2012, 11:33:46 AM
Rued Langgaard, Albéric Magnard, Franz Schmidt, Fartein Valen, Havergal Brian...I'm just so fucking cool  ;D

Are these cities you've visited, Sarge?  ;D

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on March 05, 2012, 11:35:30 AM
Throw in some Schnittke, Sarge, and you'll get a free beret!

...and a set of bongos?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"


Sergeant Rock

Quote from: MN Dave on March 05, 2012, 11:38:58 AM


You read my mind  :o  I was just looking for a pic of Maynard  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

No, that's young Schnittke, isn't it?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: karlhenning on March 05, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
No, that's young Schnittke, isn't it?

One and the same? Has anyone ever seen Maynard and Schnittke together? I mean, you know...

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

calyptorhynchus

Query: is there a Beethoven symphonies cycle on period instruments, authentic performances &c which doesn't use the controversial metronome markings?
'Many men are melancholy by hearing music, but it is a pleasing melancholy that it causeth.' Robert Burton

snyprrr

Someone said they liked the Beethoven/Liszt version of the 8th Symphony (only) better than the orchestral version. Anyone?

Brian

Quote from: calyptorhynchus on June 21, 2012, 07:23:06 PM
Query: is there a Beethoven symphonies cycle on period instruments, authentic performances &c which doesn't use the controversial metronome markings?

Metronome markings from the finale of the 9th specifically, or a period performance that uses its own tempos throughout the nine symphonies?

You might have luck with the former, but with the latter, the nature of the instruments themselves (particularly the ability of the strings to sustain notes) means that period performances really do sound better at the faster speeds.

Karl Henning

But: what is controversial about the metronome markings?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Leon


Karl Henning

I mean, do we think that they were not put there by the composer? . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brian

Quote from: karlhenning on June 22, 2012, 04:11:39 AM
But: what is controversial about the metronome markings?

A lot of people think Beethoven's metronome markings are far too fast.

But Beethoven doesn't.