Blue Hairs

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snyprrr

Are old ladies the bane of good music? Stories?

Guido

They probably support more of it than many of us would wish to acknowledge. I don't mind 'em. They're probably no less conservative than the average person when it comes to classical music.

I recently reread the Heyman Samuel Barber biography, and Barber recounts that the old ladies walked out during his Medea Suite - which is really hardly dissonant considering it was 1947! But it seems like things haven't changed and wont change in that regard. I'm sure I've read accounts of people walking out of Brahms in the late 19th century because it was too modern.

love the term 'Blue Hairs' though!
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some guy

When I hear the word "blue hairs" I always think of composers I know who are sixty or older. Pauline Oliveros, Alice Shields, Eliane Radigue, Michele Bokanowski--they're all new music types, composers of wild and outrageous music. They might walk out on a Barber, but only because it's so old and "pretty"!!

mahler10th

Sofia Gubaidulina doesn't look like a composer, more a refuge from Stalinism, but...hear her music - astonishing stuff.

matti

Quote from: John on May 18, 2009, 08:51:35 AM
Sofia Gubaidulina doesn't look like a composer, more a refuge from Stalinism, but...hear her music - astonishing stuff.

What does a composer look like?

jochanaan

Quote from: Guido on May 18, 2009, 02:55:34 AM
...They're probably no less conservative than the average person when it comes to classical music...
I got to talking to one of those "blue hairs" in Boulder, Colorado, once, and it turned out that Bartok was one of her favorite composers! ;D And you'd never have guessed it by looking at her; she looked very 'Church Lady', but her musical taste was definitely adventurous. 8)
Imagination + discipline = creativity

Bulldog

Quote from: snyprrr on May 17, 2009, 10:53:49 PM
Are old ladies the bane of good music? Stories?

What do you have against elderly women?  Show some respect - you could learn a few things from them.

mahler10th


Bulldog

Quote from: matti on May 18, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
What does a composer look like?

This is the role model:

snyprrr

Quote from: Bulldog on May 18, 2009, 01:19:53 PM
What do you have against elderly women?  Show some respect - you could learn a few things from them.

hrumph. :)

snyprrr

They have a bad reputation. Some of the posters have shown this to be less than universally deserved. However...

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: matti on May 18, 2009, 12:47:42 PM
What does a composer look like?

And what does a "refugee from Stalinism" look like?  :)
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Senta

Quote from: some guy on May 18, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
When I hear the word "blue hairs" I always think of composers I know who are sixty or older. Pauline Oliveros, Alice Shields, Eliane Radigue, Michele Bokanowski--they're all new music types, composers of wild and outrageous music. They might walk out on a Barber, but only because it's so old and "pretty"!!

Oh my goodness, I got to meet and eat dinner at the same table as Pauline Oliveros at last year's CMS/ATMI Conference...she is a hoot! Man, did she have the stories....  ;D

pjme



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I have heard the question "are you a real blonde" being asked, but I have never overheard the question "do you have real blue hair". Maybe it is the horror of verification procedure that stopped the encquiring minds.
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Regarding the elderly ladies 'blue rinse brigade', it's interesting to me that somebody would prefer to have blue hair than the grey/white they are covering up  ??? I guess it looks more 'even'.
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