Past Purchases (CLOSED)

[Harry]

The man has clearly enough money, compared with him my system is absolute peanuts.
Allthough I would not like to have his electricity bill!

[Fëanor]

Mike describes his speakers as follows ...

"Evolution Acoustics MM3 Loudspeakers. These speakers are true full range. The MM3's are 73 inches tall and weigh 575 pounds each. there are three separate modules; the center mid-range/tweeter module; the lower woofer module with ICE digital amplifier and the upper woofer module which takes it's power from the lower digital amp in the bottom woofer module. there are two umbilcals with Neutric connectors. manufacturer data shows bass extention to 10hz (-3db) and 7hz (-6db). i have no way to measure that but they do go low and very articulate in my room."

[71 dB]

"Manufacturer data shows bass extention to 10hz (-3db) and 7hz (-6db). i have no way to measure that but they do go low and very articulate in my room."

Not impossible but doubtful. Below 20 Hz expanding bass response gets very difficult. This loudspeaker has 2 powerful subwoofer units incorporated. Let's assume one subwoofer goes to 16 Hz (-3 dB) (realistical considering the size). Two of these subwoofer units means a boost of 6 dB at low frequencies. The -6 dB frequency could be about 10 Hz. Even this probably means significant harmonic distortion. Measuring the frequency response accurately at low frequences is not trivial.

Anyway, this loudspeaker is a monster. 

[karlhenning]

Measuring the frequency response accurately at low frequences is not trivial.

This may be your best line, ever, Poju!

[Brian]

That guy's room looks like the control deck on a science fiction spaceship! Sits down in the chair ... a screen comes down from the ceiling ... "Ship entering Mahlerdrive..."

[rubio]

Some Bartok from MDT:

[M forever]

Very nice. You chose wisely.

[Fëanor]

Not impossible but doubtful. Below 20 Hz expanding bass response gets very difficult. This loudspeaker has 2 powerful subwoofer units incorporated. Let's assume one subwoofer goes to 16 Hz (-3 dB) (realistical considering the size). Two of these subwoofer units means a boost of 6 dB at low frequencies. The -6 dB frequency could be about 10 Hz. Even this probably means significant harmonic distortion. Measuring the frequency response accurately at low frequences is not trivial.

Anyway, this loudspeaker is a monster. 

Quite true about the difficulties of low frequency reproduction.  Consider that Mike's room is about 20 x 35 feet, (I can't find the exact measurements).  20Hz has a wave length of 56.5 feet or 26.3 for a half cycle, so 20Hz is pretty marginal there;  anything less would be very distorted, in fact you would really only be hearing only harmonics.  In any case, only pipe organ goes anywhere near that low.

[71 dB]

Quite true about the difficulties of low frequency reproduction.  Consider that Mike's room is about 20 x 35 feet, (I can't find the exact measurements).  20Hz has a wave length of 56.5 feet or 26.3 for a half cycle, so 20Hz is pretty marginal there;  anything less would be very distorted, in fact you would really only be hearing only harmonics.  In any case, only pipe organ goes anywhere near that low.

ummh, in fact the room amplifies low frequencies. The largest dimension of the room defines the lowest frequency for standing waves and below that frequence the room is a pressure chamber. For Mike's room that frequency is about 16 Hz. That is also the lowest frequency sensed as sound (given the sound pressure level is high enough). Below 16 Hz the sensation is just physical vibration. Organs (not all) go to 16 Hz. Elecronic music can contain lower frequences.

[12tone.]

That guy's room is nuts!  If any of you went to his website, you'll have noticed one of the last pictures shows his 'audio barn'.  He doesn't even listen to his music inside his house, but instead has a 'barn' to hear it all in.

[Gustav]

That guy's room is nuts!  If any of you went to his website, you'll have noticed one of the last pictures shows his 'audio barn'.  He doesn't even listen to his music inside his house, but instead has a 'barn' to hear it all in.

I noticed that he does not have a television set in that room (house). I suppose he must have a "Video barn" somewhere else!

[Fëanor]

I noticed that he does not have a television set in that room (house). I suppose he must have a "Video barn" somewhere else!

INDEED!

Mike describes his home theatre room ...

"Home Theatre Room System

This is an existing room in the main house. It is 14' x 18.5' x 9.5' and is currently not treated acoustically. I have had the HT gear installed into a wall which conveniently opens into a closet on the other side for easy access. All the cables are buried into the walls and ceiling. ...

• Projector: Marantz VP-12S3 DLP front projector. Great HD DLP projector.
• Screen: motorized Stewart 130 white screen, 100" diagonal.
• Processor: Lexicon MC-12, I can switch from 3 HD video sources and the DVD player, great DSP for film.
• Amplifier: Proceed AMP5 and HPA2 (7 channels).
• Subwoofers: Velodyne Servo F1000X (2)
• Speakers: front, Revel F30, center, Revel C-30, side, Revel S-30, rear, Paradigm Studio 20
• DVD: Pioneer DV47Ai
• Direct TV satellite: Sony HD-200"
• ... etc.

Then he describes his family room system ...

"Family Room System

This room has a 26 foot ceiling and a massive floor to ceiling river-rock fireplace. There are 2 story clerestory southwest facing windows with a mountain view. It gets lots of ambient light. With the fireplace the TV must be in a cabinet to one side of the fireplace with windows on the wall right next to it. I have installed the 50" plasma into the cabinet on a articulating arm so I can swing it out for a better viewing angle and to point it away from light reflection. This is a gathering place where the system is secondary to the environment. The gear for this system is in a closed cabinet below the plasma.
..."

[Bogey]

     

 

[Que]

 

That's a very nice one, Bill.

Q

[Dancing Divertimentian]

[Bogey]

That's a very nice one, Bill.

Q

Funny thing about this one Q.  I sampled all the tracks some time back (over a year ago?) at a used shop I go to and was not all that thrilled with it, so gave it back to the clerk.  Saw it in the rack again tonight, gave it another try based on how my musical tastes continue to change/grow, and found I enjoyed it.  Perfect example of why I do not give up on composers.

[MN Dave]

Frederic Chopin - Works for Piano - (Cortot/Rubinstein/Lipatti/Michelangeli/Horowitz/Solomon/Backhaus/Arrau/Gilels/Hess, etc. 10CD Set - Documents (Membran)

J.S. Bach - Organ Works
Helmut Walcha - 10 CD Set - Documents (Membran)

[Bogey]

J.S. Bach - Organ Works
Helmut Walcha - 10 CD Set - Documents (Membran)

Are these mono or stereo Dave?

[MN Dave]

Are these mono or stereo Dave?

I haven't listened yet, but they were recorded in '47 and '50-52, so mono, right?

I got each of these new for $17! At Half Price books.

[Bogey]

I haven't listened yet, but they were recorded in '47 and '50-52, so mono, right?

I got each of these new for $17! At Half Price books.

Yes.  Just located your set at Arkivmusic ($23).   DG has these recordings for $77 at Arkiv music.

Here is the cover and the link:


http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=81711

I have been considering this mono set (which Don reccomends as well) for some time now as I truly enjoy his stereo cycle here: http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=17994.  However, the high price tag of the DG mono set has kept me at bay.  Would very much appreciate your comments concerning the sound of your Documents set when you get a chance.  An IM would be appreciated so I do not miss it.  At $17 though, I am guessing you cannot go wrong.