Vivaldi's vocal music

Coopmv · December 20, 2009, 05:45:45 AM

Quote from: Elgarian on December 20, 2009, 12:03:26 AM
I wish you much joy of it. I can't seriously believe you'll have any regrets about this purchase. Great music-making remains great music-making, when all the talking stops.

Elgarian, You deserve all the credits for recommending the King's Consort and I now own most if not all their Handel oratorio recordings. No doubt it is a first-rate ensemble that specializes in HIP baroque performance. While I am somewhat apprehensive about an English ensemble performing Vivaldi's works - I have read criticism of perfomance of Vivaldi's works by English ensembles as cold - there are exceptions, as I enjoyed the Le Quattro Stagioni by Hogwood and AAM very much. On the other hand, I am definitely not ready to try some "wild" Vivaldi's recordings that purport to be HIP. DA, I am not being personal here, I just happened to share Elgarian's view ...

Elgarian · December 20, 2009, 01:00:29 PM

Quote from: Coopmv on December 20, 2009, 05:45:45 AM
While I am somewhat apprehensive about an English ensemble performing Vivaldi's works - I have read criticism of perfomance of Vivaldi's works by English ensembles as cold

I don't find the Hyperion recordings cold - I think of them as a little more restrained; still joyful and energetic, but gentler.

QuoteOn the other hand, I am definitely not ready to try some "wild" Vivaldi's recordings that purport to be HIP. DA, I am not being personal here, I just happened to share Elgarian's view ...

Not quite my view - for I have had a great deal of pleasure from my Naive Vivaldi recordings; but sometimes, I'm just not up to all those daredevil thrills! And also, I don't claim any expertise in this area; I'm just reporting my impressions such as they are, no more.

Coopmv · December 20, 2009, 01:09:44 PM

Quote from: Elgarian on December 20, 2009, 01:00:29 PM
I don't find the Hyperion recordings cold - I think of them as a little more restrained; still joyful and energetic, but gentler.
Not quite my view - for I have had a great deal of pleasure from my Naive Vivaldi recordings; but sometimes, I'm just not up to all those daredevil thrills! And also, I don't claim any expertise in this area; I'm just reporting my impressions such as they are, no more.

OK, the partial view.

Indeed, I have the older, non-HIP Vivaldi Sacred Works by Vittorio Negri and Michel Corboz on LP and on CD as a basis for comparison. I have some expectation for the King Consort's set and daredevil thrills are not included ...

Coopmv · December 31, 2009, 06:14:09 PM

Elgarian, Santa arrived late this year, but he delivered this set today. Happy New Year!

Coopmv · January 01, 2010, 08:57:08 AM

Elgarian, CD1 from this set has been great so far ...

Elgarian · January 03, 2010, 01:12:42 PM

Quote from: Coopmv on January 01, 2010, 08:57:08 AM
Elgarian, CD1 from this set has been great so far ...

That's excellent. I agree, CD1 is indeed great. You're in for a really nice time, Coop. Happy New Year to you.

Coopmv · January 03, 2010, 02:19:53 PM

Quote from: Elgarian on January 03, 2010, 01:12:42 PM
That's excellent. I agree, CD1 is indeed great. You're in for a really nice time, Coop. Happy New Year to you.

BTW, Are you a major fan of Marc Minkowski? I don't recall. He is still a bit iffy for me after a few Handel recordings. A few members on the forum think very highly of his latest Bach Mass in B ...

Antoine Marchand · January 03, 2010, 02:22:13 PM

Today, watching the small DVD included with the CDs, I recalled what a fantastic performances there are in the Biondi's Bajazet:

http://www.youtube.com/v/hTpIRFiKTqo

DarkAngel · January 03, 2010, 02:44:47 PM

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on January 03, 2010, 02:22:13 PM
Today, watching the small DVD included with the CDs, I recalled what a fantastic performances there are in the Biondi's Bajazet:

I was raving about that bonus Bajazet DVD earlier in post #22 here, should have one in every opera set, great insights into artists recording sessions

Love watching these baroque divas take flight with thier daring ornamanted runs........then bring it back down for landing

Antoine Marchand · January 03, 2010, 03:05:04 PM

Quote from: DarkAngel on January 03, 2010, 02:44:47 PM
I was raving about that bonus Bajazet DVD earlier in post #22 here, should have one in every opera set, great insights into artists recording sessions

Love watching these baroque divas take flight with thier daring ornamanted runs........then bring it back down for landing

Oh, I didn't see your post before, DA, but I totally agree with your words about Biondi. Fortunately, I chose a different aria at least.

P.S.: What a difference between these stylized girls and the Wagnerian divas of the past!

The new erato · January 03, 2010, 11:09:51 PM

Quote from: DarkAngel on January 03, 2010, 02:44:47 PM
I was raving about that bonus Bajazet DVD earlier in post #22 here, should have one in every opera set, great insights into artists recording sessions

Love watching these baroque divas take flight with thier daring ornamanted runs........then bring it back down for landing

Looks like I should watch it....I've had the set for 18 months and totally forgotten about it.

Elgarian · January 04, 2010, 10:18:02 AM

Quote from: Coopmv on January 03, 2010, 02:19:53 PM
BTW, Are you a major fan of Marc Minkowski? I don't recall.

No - but I'm not really in a position to say much either way. I have his Teseo and Amadigi, and enjoyed them well enough; but I've only listened to them once, and wasn't left with any particular thoughts about the performances either one way or the other.

DarkAngel · January 05, 2010, 03:20:13 PM

Quote from: Coopmv on December 31, 2009, 06:14:09 PM
Elgarian, Santa arrived late this year, but he delivered this set today. Happy New Year!

Can't miss all the fun.............order for King/Hyperion boxset has been placed with Amazon sellers, like Coop paid a mere $6 per CD

This will really put me in great shape with Vivaldi vocal works as I have the complete Naive opera series to date.

DarkAngel · January 05, 2010, 03:26:57 PM

Looks like I will have two "juditha triumphans" since the King boxset includes one for volumes IV & V

The new erato · January 06, 2010, 12:15:01 AM

Quote from: DarkAngel on January 05, 2010, 03:26:57 PM

Looks like I will have two "juditha triumphans" since the King boxset includes one for volume IV

Volume VI I think.

Antoine Marchand · January 06, 2010, 01:16:52 AM

Quote from: erato on January 06, 2010, 12:15:01 AM
Volume VI I think.

DA is right, Erato, the Juditha is included in vols. 4 & 5 of the complete box set. Maybe the original order was changed here.

DarkAngel · January 06, 2010, 04:05:14 AM

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on January 06, 2010, 01:16:52 AM
DA is right, Erato, the Juditha is included in vols. 4 & 5 of the complete box set. Maybe the original order was changed here.

Antoine
I assume you have no regrets with your purchase of the King boxset?
I am hoping it comes in a space saving slim cardboard box with booklet.........

Antoine Marchand · January 06, 2010, 04:34:25 AM

Quote from: DarkAngel on January 06, 2010, 04:05:14 AM
Antoine
I assume you have no regrets with your purchase of the King boxset?

You are right, no regrets here. It is a great set.

Quote from: DarkAngel on January 06, 2010, 04:05:14 AM
I am hoping it comes in a space saving slim cardboard box with booklet.........

Slim cardboard box: Yes

Booklet: mmmh. The booklet just provides the Latin texts and the English translation. Fortunately, you can get the full booklet on the Hyperion website. Not Bis Records, but at least an alternative.

DarkAngel · January 06, 2010, 06:00:15 AM

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on January 06, 2010, 04:34:25 AM
Booklet: mmmh. The booklet just provides the Latin texts and the English translation. Fortunately, you can get the full booklet on the Hyperion website. Not Bis Records, but at least an alternative.

Too bad there is no bonus DVD like Bajazet opera set to show highlights from recording sessions........

This should keep me busy for some time, but there seems to be no end to this boxset mania

Coopmv · January 06, 2010, 07:02:06 PM

Quote from: Elgarian on January 04, 2010, 10:18:02 AM
No - but I'm not really in a position to say much either way. I have his Teseo and Amadigi, and enjoyed them well enough; but I've only listened to them once, and wasn't left with any particular thoughts about the performances either one way or the other.

I am still not sold on Minkowski, though I now have a few of his Handel's recordings when I had none at the beginning of last year. I still prefer Alan Curtis over Minkowski. My first Handel opera by Curtis goes back to the mid 80's - LP only. I have gone through a bit of a re-discovery of a vintage (and better) Alan Curtis ...