Viva Vivaldi!

[SonicMan46]

One Vivaldi set I enjoy perhaps even more than Op. 8 is L'estro Armonico, Op. 3. 



Also performed by Biondi and his boys (and girls).  A Vivaldian necessity! 

A quick question...

I've been buying up Vivaldi like mad recently.  I cannot for the life of me find a recording of his Op. 7 set of concerti, which is quite frustrating as I have recordings of the other published sets.  Have these truly not been recorded

Hello Sorin - yes, I own that double-CD set shown above, also - excellent! 

Just looked at my Vivaldi collection, and I do not have a set of discs specifically labeled as Op. 7 - now, in checking out his RV Catalogue HERE, the RV numbers of the works listed as Op. 7/1-12 are shown below - a couple of those pieces are 'oboe concertos' - checked the remainder of my Vivaldi collection w/o specific Op. numbers, and could not find any of those works listed - hmmm - 

Op. 7 Works and RV Numbers

7/1  - RV 465 (oboe concerto)
7/2  - RV 188 (violin concerto)
7/3  - RV 326 (violin concerto)
7/4  - RV 354 (violin concerto)
7/5  - RV 285a (violin concerto)
7/6  - RV 374 (violin concerto)
7/7  - RV 464 (oboe concerto)
7/8  - RV 299 (violin concerto)
7/9  - RV 373 (violin concerto)
7/10 - RV 294a (violin concerto)
7/11 - RV 208a (violin concerto)
7/12 - RV 214 (violin concerto)

[Sorin Eushayson]

Thanks for the help, SonicMan.  I've seen a few recordings of those oboe concerti, but not sure about the violin...  Someone write Biondi! 

[Holden]

Here is my favourite Vivaldi collection and it does contain the ubiquitous 4 Seasons



Brilliant playing from this chamber group of a variety of concerti for different instruments including bassoon and oboe.

[Coopmv]

Thanks for the help, SonicMan.  I've seen a few recordings of those oboe concerti, but not sure about the violin...  Someone write Biondi!  

I have a dozen CD's by Biondi on composers like Vivaldi, Corelli and Boccherini.  I attended a concert with Biondi and Europa Galante and eye-witnessed the virtuosity of the ensemble.  OTOH, I also attended a concert with Scimone directing I Solisti Veneti with Giuliano Carmignola at the first violin and I was quite impressed as well.  Yes, Giuliano Carmignola, that red-hot violinist who recently recorded with Viktoria Mullova and who used to be part of I Solisti Veneti.  While some of you may be critical of Scimone as being non-HIP, you are entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to mine.  I think the recordings made by Scimone are quite awesome.

[jwinter]

...I cannot for the life of me find a recording of his Op. 7 set of concerti, which is quite frustrating as I have recordings of the other published sets.  Have these truly not been recorded

They are included in the big I Solisti Veneti box mentioned earlier, so I can only assume that there was a previous single disc issue.  Not HIP, though...

[Coopmv]

They are included in the big I Solisti Veneti box mentioned earlier, so I can only assume that there was a previous single disc issue.  Not HIP, though...

I suspected the Scimone 18-CD box set or the I Musici 18-LP box set, which I also own have this missing concerto but have not bothered to check ...   I have many HIP recordings in my collection but I am not nut about it ...

[SonicMan46]

I suspected the Scimone 18-CD box set or the I Musici 18-LP box set, which I also own have this missing concerto but have not bothered to check ...   I have many HIP recordings in my collection but I am not nut about it ...

Hi Stuart - seems that you have these 'complete' boxes - many are interested about these Op. 7 recordings including myself - back in one my my previous posts (duplicated below) in this thread I had researched the RV numbers of the works that were part of this collection - bottom line is whether you can confirm  that the 'box sets' you own contain these recordings?  Thanks - Dave


Op. 7 Works and RV Numbers

7/1  - RV 465 (oboe concerto)
7/2  - RV 188 (violin concerto)
7/3  - RV 326 (violin concerto)
7/4  - RV 354 (violin concerto)
7/5  - RV 285a (violin concerto)
7/6  - RV 374 (violin concerto)
7/7  - RV 464 (oboe concerto)
7/8  - RV 299 (violin concerto)
7/9  - RV 373 (violin concerto)
7/10 - RV 294a (violin concerto)
7/11 - RV 208a (violin concerto)
7/12 - RV 214 (violin concerto)
Posted on: June 20, 2009, 10:18:55 PM

[Gurn Blanston]

Hi Stuart - seems that you have these 'complete' boxes - many are interested about these Op. 7 recordings including myself - back in one my my previous posts (duplicated below) in this thread I had researched the RV numbers of the works that were part of this collection - bottom line is whether you can confirm  that the 'box sets' you own contain these recordings?  Thanks - Dave


Op. 7 Works and RV Numbers

7/1  - RV 465 (oboe concerto)
7/2  - RV 188 (violin concerto)
7/3  - RV 326 (violin concerto)
7/4  - RV 354 (violin concerto)
7/5  - RV 285a (violin concerto)
7/6  - RV 374 (violin concerto)
7/7  - RV 464 (oboe concerto)
7/8  - RV 299 (violin concerto)
7/9  - RV 373 (violin concerto)
7/10 - RV 294a (violin concerto)
7/11 - RV 208a (violin concerto)
7/12 - RV 214 (violin concerto)
Posted on: June 20, 2009, 10:18:55 PM

I have the I Musici / Accardo box, and it does indeed contain those recordings for Op 7. There are actually 40 disks in this box (Decca), and all the opus numbered works are performed by I Musici. IMO, these are the best non-PI performances around.



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Listening to:
Franco Angeleri (Fortepiano) / Enrico Gatti (Violin) - G 029 Boccherini Op 5 Sonata #5 in g for Fortepiano & Violin 1st mvmt - Allegro molto

[Coopmv]

I have the I Musici / Accardo box, and it does indeed contain those recordings for Op 7. There are actually 40 disks in this box (Decca), and all the opus numbered works are performed by I Musici. IMO, these are the best non-PI performances around.



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Listening to:
Franco Angeleri (Fortepiano) / Enrico Gatti (Violin) - G 029 Boccherini Op 5 Sonata #5 in g for Fortepiano & Violin 1st mvmt - Allegro molto

Perhaps it will take another Italian baroque ensemble to bring us another complete Vivaldi's box like I Solisti Veneti and I Musici did ...   

[Gurn Blanston]

Perhaps it will take another Italian baroque ensemble to bring us another complete Vivaldi's box like I Solisti Veneti and I Musici did ...   

Well, that would be a wonderful thing! Meanwhile, I have managed to put together 474 (different) of his works, I would estimate that 75% of it is on period instruments. Of course, that's not counting some works that I have possibly a dozen each of, since that is the price you pay to get something different after you reach a certain point.   Would I be happy to have them ALL PI? You bet!  But artists such as Zefiro, Parley of Instruments, King's Consort, Pinnock et al, and dozens of others do a fair job of it. Whenever I find a work (that I only have on modern instruments) recorded on PI, I always pick it up. I figure that in just a few more years...



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Listening to:
La Magnifica Comunità - G 265 Quintet in A for Strings Op 10 #1 1st mvmt - Andantino

[Coopmv]

Well, that would be a wonderful thing! Meanwhile, I have managed to put together 474 (different) of his works, I would estimate that 75% of it is on period instruments. Of course, that's not counting some works that I have possibly a dozen each of, since that is the price you pay to get something different after you reach a certain point.   Would I be happy to have them ALL PI? You bet!  But artists such as Zefiro, Parley of Instruments, King's Consort, Pinnock et al, and dozens of others do a fair job of it. Whenever I find a work (that I only have on modern instruments) recorded on PI, I always pick it up. I figure that in just a few more years...



My Vivaldi's collection is somewhere between 100 to 150 recordings since my LP collection is not computerized and can only be estimated ...

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Listening to:
La Magnifica Comunità - G 265 Quintet in A for Strings Op 10 #1 1st mvmt - Andantino

[Gurn Blanston]

My Vivaldi's collection is somewhere between 100 to 150 recordings since my LP collection is not computerized and can only be estimated ...

Yeah, I don't do LP's, so less of a problem for me.

I do actually have a hard time picking out versions for the "master list", like a straightforward one, the Four Seasons, I have 2 versions each by Biondi and Carmignola. Can't choose between them, so I have them all in the List. Just count 'em as one though... Also have various sonatas & concerti that are performed on different instruments with equal effect (lute & guitar, for example). Those are a tough choice too.



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Listening to:
La Magnifica Comunità - G 265 Quintet in A for Strings Op 10 #1 3rd mvmt - Minuetto: Allegro - Trio

[Antoine Marchand]

I do actually have a hard time picking out versions for the "master list", like a straightforward one, the Four Seasons, I have 2 versions each by Biondi and Carmignola. Can't choose between them, so I have them all in the List. Just count 'em as one though...

Hi, Gurn. Today I have ordered some discs from JPC, including another version of The Four Seasons, this time by Fasolis/Galfetti/I Barocchisti (on Claves). I really don't know the disc itself, but the videos on You Tube have been impossible to resist for me because I never have listened to more onomatopoeic versions of these works. Duilio Galfetti is incredible. If you or somebody else is interested, here some links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwSOZBZ6CbY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtKCtmtta0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZwfdRwjZU&feature=related

[FideLeo]

A four seasons with more orchestral colours than most...

[Gurn Blanston]

Hi, Gurn. Today I have ordered some discs from JPC, including another version of The Four Seasons, this time by Fasolis/Galfetti/I Barocchisti (on Claves). I really don't know the disc itself, but the videos on You Tube have been impossible to resist for me because I never have listened to more onomatopoeic versions of these works. Duilio Galfetti is incredible. If you or somebody else is interested, here some links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwSOZBZ6CbY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtKCtmtta0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZwfdRwjZU&feature=related

Wow!   Pretty impressive. The only other performance a can compare it with on the poetic level is Biondi's first version (Opus 111). This one has more accompanists, especially on the continuuo end, but the lead fiddle is at that same level. You can hear the buzzing of the bees! Thanks, Antoine!

[jwinter]

I have the I Musici / Accardo box, and it does indeed contain those recordings for Op 7. There are actually 40 disks in this box (Decca), and all the opus numbered works are performed by I Musici. IMO, these are the best non-PI performances around.

Is that box still in print?

[Gurn Blanston]

Is that box still in print?

I don't know, JW. I only got it like 18 months ago, but last night when I posted I looked around so I could post a link and I couldn't find one. I haven't looked in Europe yet though.... Worth the look,  since it was only $60...



EDIT: I just found This Place that has it, looks like Merry Olde...

[Drasko]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/chefs-doeuvre-Vivaldi-Various-Artists/dp/B000NVL49C

[Wanderer]

I have the I Musici / Accardo box, and it does indeed contain those recordings for Op 7. There are actually 40 disks in this box (Decca), and all the opus numbered works are performed by I Musici. IMO, these are the best non-PI performances around.

Seconded.

[Lethevich]

Now Don, you're just 'teasing' us (are you part Irish, like me?  ) - some of us here, including me, enjoy the Red Priest from Venice - but for those who may be interested in the Four Seasons, don't stop w/ just those four works - these are just the opening pieces of a 12- concerto set of Vivaldi's Op. 8 Il Cimento dell'armonia e dell'inventione; a recommendation is shown below, a 2-CD set w/ Biondi + Europa Galante; excellent bargain w/ 2 discs in a single-disc sized jewel box - 

That disc was the one that made me like the Four Seasons - really excellent performances.